WEBVTT - The TikTok Robbery

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, the TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>couple forced to flee their new home, Why Sky Wheatley

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop complimenting strangers, and Zoe Haig's surprise wedding budget.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, Sarah's Day is livid with her husband Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>for his night our antics. A pregnant Sarah, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a self confessed early bird, says she's been led astray

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<v Speaker 1>by his late night routine. I let it happen again

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend aka night Our husband infiltrated my night

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<v Speaker 1>and has effectively ruined my day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, room him. He has ruined my day. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in charge of my own bedtime. Like I am

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one years old, I'm twenty seven weeks pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just I have fomo if he's awake

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<v Speaker 1>at midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be awake at midnight, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah went on to say how terrible she was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>with the lack of quality sleep, and it made her

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<v Speaker 1>reflect on the fact that she is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>feeling shit like this all the time when baby number

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<v Speaker 1>three is here and she's doing overnight feeds. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>curious to find out what different couples do when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to their sleeping habits, because my partner, he tends

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<v Speaker 1>to go to bed a lot earlier than me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kurt in this situation. I am the night out, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems to work for us.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first moved in with Brandon, I thought I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like you and be staying up late and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be going to bed early. But we have this routine

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<v Speaker 1>where we go to bed at the same time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's because we watch the same shows. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>give each other shows a go so you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to be staying up late to get

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<v Speaker 1>finally a turn to watch your show.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's more so.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he starts as early as four point thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, or I mean most mornings he'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>work at about six am, so he goes to bed

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<v Speaker 1>super early, and I'm just I'm not about that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can suddenly become a morning person. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think you were either born

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<v Speaker 1>a night hour or a morning person, and it's very,

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to change me.

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<v Speaker 4>After realizing that everything I own is being stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>Popular TikTok couple Isabel Peltz and Mitch O'Leary have been

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<v Speaker 1>forced to flee their new home after just three nights.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple were targeted by thieves who broke into their

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<v Speaker 1>home whilst they were at an influencer event in Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>now Amy. For those who haven't heard of the couple,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they best known for? Well, they went viral

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok last year after they shared a video each

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<v Speaker 1>morning of them dancing to wake up via the vamps

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<v Speaker 1>and this song is all about seizing the day and

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<v Speaker 1>being grateful for what you have. They now boast over

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand followers on TikTok and are known for

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<v Speaker 1>their fun, positive content.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle is just nineteen and she works as an influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's done collaborations with brands like Beginning Boutique and

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<v Speaker 1>pepper Mao Whilse. Mitch is twenty two and he owns

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<v Speaker 1>Popular Street where brand outdated Now. They used to live

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<v Speaker 1>in Queensland, but they recently moved to Adelaide. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird decision as an Adelaide person, Why when you're building

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<v Speaker 1>an influencer career would you move from Brisbane to Adelaide

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are not that many pr opportunities here.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Big influencer events. It's a very small influencer community. Arguably

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the influencers in Adelaide don't have many

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<v Speaker 1>genuine folds. I think Mitch is originally from Adelaide, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was part of their decision. So just last week,

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<v Speaker 1>isabel shared a series of tiktoks which she dubbed her

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<v Speaker 1>Moving Diaries, and she took followers along the journey of

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<v Speaker 1>moving into their new rental. And isabel not only showed

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<v Speaker 1>shots of the interior of the house, but also the exterior,

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<v Speaker 1>including vision of.

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<v Speaker 3>Their house number.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I won't say what suburb it is in Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case they choose to live around there again.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Area, you would have been able to instantly identify where

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Now thieves took their chance when Isabelle shared

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<v Speaker 1>that she and Mitch were heading to Sydney for an

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<v Speaker 1>influencer event, and when the couple returned home, they found

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<v Speaker 1>their bedroom window had been smashed, and bizarrely, only Mitch's

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<v Speaker 1>belongings had been stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a listen to what went down.

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<v Speaker 6>If you did this, I don't know what Mitch did

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<v Speaker 6>to you, but thanks to.

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<v Speaker 7>Leaving my staff for someone obviously, but anyway, enjoy everything

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<v Speaker 7>that you stole of mine in the house. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>Mitch pretty much doesn't really have much to his name

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<v Speaker 7>at the minute.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing they didn't steal my humor, I didn't take

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<v Speaker 4>that on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thieves also took Mitch's spare key to his you and

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<v Speaker 1>whilst they didn't steal the car, they did access it

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<v Speaker 1>and they took coins and the sunglasses he'd left in there.

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<v Speaker 3>They did leave one pair.

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<v Speaker 1>They were joking that maybe they weren't the robbers type.

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<v Speaker 1>This is reminding me of when Shiny Grimman got robbed

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<v Speaker 1>because the thieves had her car keys, so in this

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<v Speaker 1>instance it meant they could come back and use her

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<v Speaker 1>car whenever they wanted. But they also left random things

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<v Speaker 1>that weren't to their liking. It makes me feel like

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<v Speaker 1>these it's a gang of very young people.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it has.

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<v Speaker 1>Something to do with Mitch's business success because I see

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<v Speaker 1>those outdated hoodies everywhere, so people would be jealous of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're necessarily doing it and targeting him

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<v Speaker 1>because they're jealous of him. I think they just saw

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and thought, well, if he's running this successful brand,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably has a lot of cash.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was pretty easy for.

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<v Speaker 1>Them because they've been brazen enough to put where they live.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, you just go to real estate dot

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<v Speaker 1>com you can figure out where most rentals are. You

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<v Speaker 1>would stem from jealousy, though, people would see that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these influencers have a lot of flashy things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're jealous, so people want to break in.

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<v Speaker 3>And steal it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's either the jealousy or it's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the thieves got disturbed and they had just started taking

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch's stuff, because you can see in the vision that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few socks and different items that are just

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<v Speaker 1>strewn all over their driveways, so it's clear the thieves

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<v Speaker 1>left in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite part of this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, is the fact that Mitch and Isabelle decided to

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<v Speaker 1>set up their own sting, so they put up a

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<v Speaker 1>series of fake posts saying that they were heading back

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<v Speaker 1>into state following the robbery to see if the thieves

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<v Speaker 1>would return. It's clever, but it's also dangerous because they

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<v Speaker 1>were almost sitting ducks waiting for thieves thieves to return

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<v Speaker 1>and potentially I mean, stats show that most home invasions

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<v Speaker 1>do turn vile. Well, they shared a TikTok days later

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<v Speaker 1>and it showed them giggling in bed as they armed

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with household items to protect themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 6>So Mitchell's weapon of choice is hammer, so we've gotten

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<v Speaker 6>this podcast or everything else? Mine mine is two screen

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<v Speaker 6>and enough that was used to cut up your state.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they were clearly joking, but this gives me

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<v Speaker 1>so much anxiety. Because the thieves had the keys to

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch's car, it was likely they were going to return.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's supposed to be a joke, but generally

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<v Speaker 1>with home invasions, the people in the home generally get

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons turned back on them and things escalate from there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the scariest thing is the robbers actually did return, So

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<v Speaker 1>poor Mitch and Isabel were woken in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night by the sound of multiple people trying to

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<v Speaker 1>break into the house. However, once the robbers realized the

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<v Speaker 1>couple were inside, they fled and there hasn't been any

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<v Speaker 1>update yet from Essay Police about whether any arrests have

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<v Speaker 1>been made, did they set up any security cameras or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Don't understand why you would antagonize someone

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<v Speaker 1>but then not have a proper plan of attack, because

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation, they haven't caught anyone on camera robbing

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<v Speaker 1>from them. They've just put themselves in a dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no police action taking place, and subsequently it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like they've been forced to move out of this rental

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<v Speaker 1>and go and find safety else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've spoken in the past about influencers like Molly

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<v Speaker 1>May and Chloe Zett being robbed, and I'm just so

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that influencers continue to share so many identifiable features

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<v Speaker 1>about their houses online.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a double edged sword.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, because I can see from the perspective of an influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to take your followers on a journey with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's relatable to be moving into a new rental

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<v Speaker 1>into state.

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<v Speaker 3>However, just think you need to be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever show the outside of your house don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>show your house number, don't ever identify which suburb you

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<v Speaker 1>live in. Those things are crucial because people will take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of you. Well, they clearly were foolish for doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've got to remember they're nineteen and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say I hadn't heard of them

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<v Speaker 1>until I saw this story pop up, and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>quite like them from watching their tiktoks. They seem really positive,

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<v Speaker 1>like they weren't winging about it. You know, sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>something terrible happens and you see these big named influencers

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<v Speaker 1>who crack the shits.

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<v Speaker 3>They were actually very cool about the whole thing. They

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<v Speaker 3>laughed at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We often get people asking in our Facebook community who

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<v Speaker 1>can I follow online? Who's someone new? And it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like they're quite a good couple. Yeah, one that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>is sharing about their life. Maybe they need to set

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<v Speaker 1>up a few more boundaries. But it's always fun following

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<v Speaker 1>people when they're starting out their career or.

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<v Speaker 3>They happen quiet. They've got six hundred thousand followers on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Six hundred thousand on TikTok isn't that big? Like some

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<v Speaker 1>people have a million followers and they're still not making

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<v Speaker 1>a full time living off it.

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<v Speaker 5>Something non genuine about two hot girls, but already probably

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<v Speaker 5>get a million compliments compliment each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other, Sophie, I wantn't know where do you stand on

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<v Speaker 1>complimenting strangers in public, because Sky Wheatley and her partner

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<v Speaker 1>Lockey have sparked debate about the sincerity behind it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big one for giving strangers compliments.

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<v Speaker 3>I am known.

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<v Speaker 1>If I go order food or if I buy something

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<v Speaker 1>at the shop, I will often generally girls, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give compliments.

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<v Speaker 3>I will always give a girl a compliment. Yeah, you're always.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time someone serves you, you will notice their nails.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh my god, I love your nails. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's genuine. They always have really nice names.

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<v Speaker 2>Genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think it's I do it because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a way to almost make someone's day. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I know that set might sound to be over the top,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I notice something, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's really cute, I think why not say it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes those comments can really bolster you up if

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a shit day. And again, it's also a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to strike up a conversation with someone and

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<v Speaker 1>be friendly. Yeah, well, Skywheatley is the same as you,

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<v Speaker 1>because she was in Kmart when a woman approached her

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're so pretty, and she replied you too, babe. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky told Locky she genuinely thought the woman was attractive

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<v Speaker 1>when she walked past her, so that's why she was

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<v Speaker 1>so quick to repay the compliment. However, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Lockie had to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that when girls say that to other girls,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just like, I feel it's a bit fake.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's quite genuine. I think it's more

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<v Speaker 4>like a jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh my gosh. Do you know how many times

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<v Speaker 2>I compliment strangers. I've always been like that. I always

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<v Speaker 2>compliment strangers.

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<v Speaker 8>I always say you have nice eyes, you have a

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<v Speaker 8>beautiful smile, like it's a nice thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this man, I just can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>quite put my finger on it.

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<v Speaker 5>I really can't. But I just feel like it'd be

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<v Speaker 5>like it'd be like one male going up to another male.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, Oh, you're really hot, bro.

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<v Speaker 5>You're no. It's not completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, because females and men are completely different. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand his point about it being a jealousy. Thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>quite often I find if people are jealous, it's human

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<v Speaker 1>nature to then not bring forth the great qualities about

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<v Speaker 1>that person. If anything, you're trying and drag them down.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think he's getting confused, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks it's a bit like on Mean Girls, the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when they're like, I love your embrace and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, that's the fucking ugliest bracelet I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he thinks that they're fake compliments. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know people doing that in the shops though, or just

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<v Speaker 1>in public. Maybe it's fake compliments if it's to someone

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like in your life friends. I have another

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<v Speaker 1>take on Lockey's point about male compliments. While I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard two men compliment each other at the

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<v Speaker 1>shop by telling each other they're hot. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>men compliment each other in other ways. So they might

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<v Speaker 1>compliment them about their cut or they're bid is a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. That's the male equivalent of clothes. They'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, how lush that guy's beard is, or

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<v Speaker 1>that's very nicely I was gonna say, manicureed I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the corect is, or they'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking jack like you've been in the gym. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what men will say to each other. So it's another

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<v Speaker 1>form of basically saying, oh, you look pretty. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting one with men too, because men will

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely rip into each other and say the most awful things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all under the guise of it being a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a joke, whereas women would never make those comments.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd only do it behind other women's backs. Yeah, which,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's worse. So if there's one more

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<v Speaker 1>part of the TikTok I have to play you that

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<v Speaker 1>cracked me up.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 5>If both girls are pretty, why do they need to

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<v Speaker 5>tell each other they're pretty?

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<v Speaker 4>Because they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Though not all pretty girls know that they're pretty, lots

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<v Speaker 1>the pretty girls are very insecure, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Me, I don't think I think you were pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be posting yourself twenty four seven hours. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think I'm ugly, but I don't look in

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<v Speaker 8>the mirror and go, oh, you're so dropped at gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 8>I look in the mirror and I pick at myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what most women do. So it's uplifting, it's kind,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what Sky is saying, because often you can

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<v Speaker 1>assume that someone is up themselves, or that they're overly

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<v Speaker 1>confident because they're putting themselves out there, or maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>wear a lot of makeup, whatever it may be. But

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<v Speaker 1>quite often the person is having to go to that

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<v Speaker 1>extent to do themselves up or put themselves out there

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<v Speaker 1>because they are in secure and they want the validation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Moral of this story is continue to pay people compliments.

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<v Speaker 4>So you won't let me pay for anything for the

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<v Speaker 4>weddings I've gotten to.

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<v Speaker 2>That was another question, who's paid for the wedding?

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<v Speaker 4>I've got the DJ?

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<v Speaker 7>All right, look, you lot can go on Google at

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<v Speaker 7>Google my wage.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah no, but if if I'm still on army wage,

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<v Speaker 8>we'd have just scheduled everything down.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, yeah, we would have done it.

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<v Speaker 7>It just means that like all the money I've saved

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<v Speaker 7>up would well would be gone on a wedding, which

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<v Speaker 7>is what everyone does. Yeah, whereas we're in a nice

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<v Speaker 7>fortunate team position where I'm still able to keep them

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<v Speaker 7>most of my savings.

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<v Speaker 2>We've kind of done it off, like percentages of earnings.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I think that's probably what most people do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we're not going to go fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>on something.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I've got no problem or qualms with the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that you know, you earn more money than I do

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<v Speaker 7>and we've got to combine.

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<v Speaker 2>And is such a taboo, But it doesn't need to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, Like, it doesn't to hide what I am because

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<v Speaker 4>you could google it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to an episode of the Yeah very true.

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<v Speaker 8>I was listening to an episode of the Girl's Barroom

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<v Speaker 8>and they were talking loads about money, and one of

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<v Speaker 8>the questions was like when you go on dates, how

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<v Speaker 8>like how do you split a date? And like the

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<v Speaker 8>main thing that people came back with was you sort

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<v Speaker 8>of do it on percentage of earnings. Yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 8>if someone earns more, that'll get maybe two to like

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<v Speaker 8>one dinner dates.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've just seen a good question about divorced parents

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff and feel intention.

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<v Speaker 1>UK influencer Zoe Haig has broken her YouTube silence after

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<v Speaker 1>her much anticipated wedding to partner Danny ray So. Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>is the sister of Molly May Haig, and she explained

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<v Speaker 1>that her three week radio silence from YouTube was due

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<v Speaker 1>to a family member ruining her SD card. So this

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<v Speaker 1>SD card contained vision of the lead up to her wedding, which.

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<v Speaker 3>She was going to share.

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<v Speaker 1>What an absolute nightmare, like, not only if you're a YouTuber,

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<v Speaker 1>but just in general, if you'd captured these important memories

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<v Speaker 1>and the lead up to your wedding and they'd been

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed by someone. And this SD card was destroyed in

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<v Speaker 1>the most bizarre circumstances because Zoe and her family were

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<v Speaker 1>out on a boat and one of the family members

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<v Speaker 1>had a drone and they were like, oh, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to fly the drone, but I don't have an SD card.

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<v Speaker 1>And Zoe had a camera with her, so she's like, oh, here,

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<v Speaker 1>you can borrow my SD card, and she made a

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<v Speaker 1>joke about but do not lose this.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>So as they're going along in the boat, they start

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<v Speaker 1>up the drone. The drone falls into the water and

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<v Speaker 1>it destroys the SD card.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what an absolute nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>I always get nervous when people fly drones, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is for this reason because you can never trust them,

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<v Speaker 1>like they get out of your eyesight, they can fall

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<v Speaker 1>into water.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just there's.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot going on when you fly drone. I've flown

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<v Speaker 1>them before and it is quite scary. Now a few

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<v Speaker 1>people have messaged us saying please talk about Zoe's wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are talking about it now because Zoe and

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<v Speaker 1>Danny have finally released a few more details about this wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>This wedding was getting a lot of press in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK when it happened a few weeks ago. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all over my TikTok feed and I was dying to

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<v Speaker 1>find out more details about the wedding. I found it

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<v Speaker 1>quite surprising all of the media coverage because Zoe is

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<v Speaker 1>known as being the more down to earth sister, so

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<v Speaker 1>she used to work in the army, and it's only

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<v Speaker 1>been over the last year or so that she's focused

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<v Speaker 1>on her social media career.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a bit of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Shock to a lot of her followers when everyone saw

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<v Speaker 1>the paparazzi rock up. I wasn't surprised because my understanding

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<v Speaker 1>is they weren't really there for Zoe. They were there

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<v Speaker 1>for Molly because Molly will sneeze and the media will

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<v Speaker 1>report on it like they are obsessed with her.

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<v Speaker 3>She is the UK's biggest influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're definitely right, but I think it has also

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<v Speaker 1>grown Zoe and Danny's profile. And there are reports that

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<v Speaker 1>searchers for Lakes District's weddings, which they had, has skyrocketed

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<v Speaker 1>after their big day, with searches up by one thousand, three.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred and fourteen percent.

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<v Speaker 1>As Australians, we're so lucky having our weddings outside because

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time people will have an outdoor ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>and will be beautiful weather. However, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>an English couple who flew over for my sister in

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<v Speaker 1>law's wedding and it was held in the botanical gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were just saying, like, we cannot get over

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<v Speaker 1>this wedding, Like no one has their weddings outside.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all stuck in these you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Awful little chapels or buildings or whatever weather and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>because the weather's always so shit. But but for Zoe,

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<v Speaker 1>they had their wedding outside in this beautiful guarding setting,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, at the Lake Districts. Luckily they missed

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<v Speaker 1>a sprinkle of rain, like it was perfect weather for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and her partner looked like Prince Charming because he was

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in some sort of soldier outfit. They would look

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<v Speaker 1>like he was part of the royal family. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's still serving in the army. But apparently they've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying, why is he dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>like Prince Charles?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he pretending to be royal? I liked it. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, God, I wish Brandon could have worn something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. There's something about.

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<v Speaker 1>That uniform, there definitely is. And there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interest into how much they spent on their wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>because The Sun in the UK reported that they dropped

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand pounds on the day, but Zoe and

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<v Speaker 1>Danny were quick to host down these reports, so they

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<v Speaker 1>told their YouTube followers that their wedding actually costs between

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<v Speaker 1>forty to fifty thousand pounds. Zoe also revealed, and this

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised me, that her dress cost two thousand pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was her ceremony dress, and she also had

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<v Speaker 1>an eight hundred dollars reception dress. Let's throw to what

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<v Speaker 1>she said about it.

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<v Speaker 8>But I got it from a shop near us called

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<v Speaker 8>the Nutsford Wedding Gallery. It was a designer called Mullinova,

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<v Speaker 8>and it was sorry eight hundred pounds, which is quite

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<v Speaker 8>expensive for a second dress. But I thought, because my

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<v Speaker 8>first dress was only two thousand pounds, two dresses together

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<v Speaker 8>being less than three thousand pounds, that's more than that's

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<v Speaker 8>less than what people spent for like wonderful dress smashed.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to remember that is pounds. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>astoundard that that's all she's spent, particularly when we see

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<v Speaker 1>Molly made her sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Living quite large.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think Molly could barely lift her

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<v Speaker 1>bloody hand. Her ring is that enormous. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that her wedding dress is going to be some custom

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<v Speaker 1>made coature gown that's tens of thousands of pounds. Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>said that she got Molly to actually pick out the

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<v Speaker 1>bridesmaid's dresses and she opted for some courture gowns. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's almost a bit unfair that the bride'smaids potentially

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<v Speaker 1>had more expensive dresses. Well, she didn't say whether they

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<v Speaker 1>were more expensive, but she did be tho. Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>just basically said, oh, I couldn't be bothered, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just left it up to Molly, and I really liked

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<v Speaker 1>the dresses that she chose. In the end, do we

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<v Speaker 1>think that Molly foot the bill for those then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure they didn't touch on that, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>been really open, as I said, about talking about their budget,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have found really fascinating because before they got married,

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe and Danny did a Q and A and they

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<v Speaker 1>were asked about how they divided up the costs.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a listen to what they said.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, you won't let me pay for anything for

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<v Speaker 4>the weddings I've gotten to.

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<v Speaker 2>That was another question, who's paid for the wedding?

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<v Speaker 7>I've got the DJ All right, look, you lot can

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<v Speaker 7>go on Google at Google my wage.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah no, but if if I was still on on

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<v Speaker 8>army wage, we would have just scheduled everything down.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, yeah, we would have done it.

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<v Speaker 7>It just means that like all the money I've saved

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<v Speaker 7>up would well would be going on a wedding, which

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<v Speaker 7>is what everyone does. Yeah, whereas we're in a nice

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<v Speaker 7>fortunate team position where I'm still able to keep them

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<v Speaker 7>most of my savings part.

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<v Speaker 2>We've kind of done it off like percentages of earnings.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I think that's probably what most people do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like we're not going to go fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>on something.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I've got no problem or qualms with the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that you know you earn more money than I do.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've got a combined.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a taboo, I don't know, but it doesn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I need to hide what I am because

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<v Speaker 4>you could google it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why everyone is falling in love with this

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<v Speaker 1>couple because they're not shying away from awkward questions about money.

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<v Speaker 3>They're happy to address it.

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<v Speaker 1>And clearly Danny feels secure enough and comfortable enough to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe did pay for the majority of it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to help as much as I could. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't earn as much money as her, because in

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<v Speaker 1>the past a lot of men would hold shame about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact.

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<v Speaker 3>That their partner earns more than them. But he seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Very proud about that, and they just seem so cute together. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason that Zoe is becoming so popular

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<v Speaker 1>too is she's always going to be the more relatable

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<v Speaker 1>one than Molly Matt. Yeah, Like, she's probably the person

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<v Speaker 1>that you go to to think, oh, okay, what's her

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<v Speaker 1>affordable outfit?

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<v Speaker 3>She looks good, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be within my budget, whereas with Molly May Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's great for outfit inspo, but you know you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to afford anything that she's wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I enjoy following them both. They don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be pitted against each other. They're great, but it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be really interesting to look at their demographics, y what

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<v Speaker 1>their cell rate is. Well. In a recent vlog, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that Zoe had actually sold more of something

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<v Speaker 1>than her that's how strong her audience is. Let's kick

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<v Speaker 1>off our new segment called Agony Sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a play on Agony Aunts.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should have been the Agony Aunties because when

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<v Speaker 1>new Aunties, but we thought Sisters was more fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought a lot of our followers might not have

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<v Speaker 1>sisters that they want to ask for advice from. So

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<v Speaker 1>I always get honest advice from sisters, even sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it to be so honest.

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<v Speaker 3>We do have a mailbox you put up her Q

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<v Speaker 3>and A.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this is something we're hopefully going to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing every Friday, so send us in a DM what

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<v Speaker 1>your issue is. It can be about anything, but the

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<v Speaker 1>dms are a good space because they're a bit longer,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can give us more detail and we will

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<v Speaker 1>keep you one hundred percent anonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Has asked what to do when your best friend doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make time for you slash only when she wants something.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference with.

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<v Speaker 1>Best friends and sisters is you often have to be

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<v Speaker 1>more thoughtful when approaching an issue with a best friend

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not a family member. You have to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about what you're going to say. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to offend anyone. I know there are some best friends

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<v Speaker 1>who can say anything to one another.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a really difficult one because you've got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about does my best friend have something big going

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<v Speaker 1>on in her life? So is she busy because she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a new partner, Is she busy because she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressures at work, or is it because

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<v Speaker 1>she is trying to freeze me out. I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk to her about it and approach it

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<v Speaker 1>in a non confrontational, non aggressive way, because she might

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<v Speaker 1>get her back up about it. If she's your best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be in a position where you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>her that you feel like she's not making time for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult because when people get older and maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>get a long term partner or work gets really busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's hard fitting everyone see. I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>be difficult to say to your best friend, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not making time for me, because I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>could spark an argument. I would almost do some little

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<v Speaker 1>tests to see if they were genuinely busy, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>might be genuine reasons why your best friend can't see

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you need to start making a big effort, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're already making an effort, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to go, hey, let's go out for dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>like we really need to catch up. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you. I really miss you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important to set regular catch ups with people

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<v Speaker 1>in your life that are important to see, like a

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, for instance, we see our best friend at

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<v Speaker 1>least once a week, so we will make time.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that there's going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be some sort of lunch, dinner or house catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>Same with our cousins who I classify as my best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>we see them every week. It's just with a best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just should be implied that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>regular catch ups. And that's really why you're feeling a

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<v Speaker 1>bit up because maybe these catch ups are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>dwindle and you're not seeing each other as much and

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<v Speaker 1>you're becoming disconnected in one another's lives, and she might

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you. It might be that she's so

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely busy, or maybe she's bogged down in this new

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and she feels like she doesn't have the time

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, which is shit.

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<v Speaker 3>As a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Receiving end of that, I've always got to make time

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<v Speaker 1>for your friends. It's one thing that's really important, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in a new relationship, because those relationships can

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<v Speaker 1>end and then you're left potentially with no friends. My

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion would be to reach out to her again, try

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<v Speaker 1>and see if you can catch up for dinner or

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<v Speaker 1>something that's face to face, and get a feel for

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in her life, if there are some

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<v Speaker 1>big events or moments going on that are keeping her

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<v Speaker 1>really busy, and just say something like I really miss you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we catch up more. I feel a bit sad

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't been catching up regularly. Because if you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're sad and you miss someone, they can't really

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<v Speaker 1>get mad. I have heard of this happening quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit when people get into their thirties. Sometimes their best

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<v Speaker 1>friend goes hay Wi like, they just act a different way,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they almost need to be called out. All

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship needs to end because they're not healthy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some people who outgrow certain friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or you just becomes toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does become toxic, and you need to decide

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<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to put up with that behavior. Because

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend will reach out, a good friend will

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<v Speaker 1>make time to see you. It's not that difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up your phone in this day and age and

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation. So yeah, you've got a weigh up.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's very difficult because we're only reading a small

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<v Speaker 1>message here, but you have to weigh up whether the

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<v Speaker 1>way they're treating you, whether you're happy for that to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you just need to broach the topic maybe

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<v Speaker 1>firstly in a sensitive way and see how it goes

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<v Speaker 1>from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good luck with it all. We hope it does

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<v Speaker 3>work out.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a question for the Agony Sisters to

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<v Speaker 1>send it in, well, thank you so much for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode. Don't forget to follow Outspoken on TikTok and.

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<v Speaker 1>Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.

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<v Speaker 3>We pay respect to elders past and present.