Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Sophie
Speaker 1: Kate and Amy Torber. Coming up on the episode, we
Speaker 1: dissect mexit and the backlash that's followed. Steph clare Smith
Speaker 1: targeted again by thieves. Is social media to blame and
Speaker 1: the biggest Instagram fail of the week. But first, K,
Speaker 1: you had a pretty funny incident happened at work this week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. It was quite embarrassing. I'm a bit of
Speaker 1: a shitsterir at work and I look after the influencers.
Speaker 1: So there's one influencer a sports style that I've been
Speaker 1: wanting to come along to the thirty sixers game for
Speaker 1: probably like three seasons. Now, let's just name him because
Speaker 1: I feel like people want to know it's Travis Boke.
Speaker 1: So go everyone, go Instagram Travis Bok. That doesn't leave him.
Speaker 1: Feel like everyone from Adelaide will know Travis Boke. He
Speaker 1: has the most, he shares the most epic insta stories.
Speaker 1: He's got this absolute palace of a house where he's
Speaker 1: got about i'd say three different fireplaces and just his
Speaker 1: epic pool. It's big, walking drobe cute dog. Anyway, Kay,
Speaker 1: what happened with him? Disclosure. I hate Port Power, but
Speaker 1: I love Travis Boche anyway, So he said that finally
Speaker 1: he was coming along to a game, which I was
Speaker 1: excited about, and so did you try and set this up? Kay?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well I have. I basically invited all
Speaker 1: of the Crows and port players that have lots of followers. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So my boyfriend also works at the thirty six's and
Speaker 1: I absolutely owned him when Ali Odigin from The Bachelor
Speaker 1: was coming along. This was why we weren't actually dating,
Speaker 1: but he'd been going on in the office about how
Speaker 1: he was excited and drooling over her Instagram photos. So
Speaker 1: when she was actually there at the game last year,
Speaker 1: she came up to me and I was like, oh, Ali,
Speaker 1: you see that guy over there and pointed out Race.
Speaker 1: He's so excited he hasn't stopped talking about the fact
Speaker 1: that you're coming to the game. So I was so wild.
Speaker 1: That's pretty embarrassing. Yeah, So I was so worried leading
Speaker 1: into the game because my friend Kyle and Reese are
Speaker 1: also going on that they were going to embarrass me.
Speaker 1: So fortunately I didn't get embarrassed, but I did go
Speaker 1: up and shake his hand and gave him his pass
Speaker 1: and then I just literally like chucked the other tickets
Speaker 1: at the other people that I didn't give a shit
Speaker 1: about that I was. I was sitting in the crowd
Speaker 1: with my mum and we were just watching it all
Speaker 1: unfold because Mom's like, oh, okay, it's got the tickets
Speaker 1: and it was like watching this sick game. And I
Speaker 1: finally got glasses so I could actually watch. Thought I
Speaker 1: knew you'd lose your bottle to say anything, but that
Speaker 1: was the worst bit because Mum told me that she
Speaker 1: would watch, and I was like, I don't want you
Speaker 1: to watch, Like, stop making a big deal. It's not
Speaker 1: a big deal. But anyway, it was quite funny. So
Speaker 1: soph I know, at the basketball you love watching mister
Speaker 1: fruit Chuck and Murray, But what else have you been
Speaker 1: doing this weekend? It's so random. If anyone follows Sophie
Speaker 1: on Instagram and they'll see that every time she goes
Speaker 1: to the thirty sixers game, that's all she uploads. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a bit fond of mister fruit Chuck. He's very cute.
Speaker 1: But well, you see the person in there, but people don't.
Speaker 1: People might not know who were not in Adelaide, where
Speaker 1: a fruit chock is what may they sell fruit chocks
Speaker 1: in Adelaide? Well? Are you serious? Yeah? That's an absolute travesty. Sorry,
Speaker 1: excuse our cat crying in the background, and he's been
Speaker 1: introduced to going outside and now he won't stop. I
Speaker 1: cannot believe they don't sell fruit chucks everywhere. You're serious?
Speaker 1: Oh god, this is going to be added to Sophie's
Speaker 1: stupid comment. Oh send it to shit Adelaide again. Well,
Speaker 1: if anyone would like any fruit chocks, she should get
Speaker 1: him bloody sent there. Incredible. Anyway, this week, Brandon and
Speaker 1: I have decided that we're going to go to Bali.
Speaker 1: It's only like first week of the year and we
Speaker 1: already need a break from it, so we're gonna We
Speaker 1: noticed there were really really cheap flights. But now my
Speaker 1: job has been trying to track down every YouTuber's barley
Speaker 1: vlogs to work out where I want to stay. Is
Speaker 1: it wrong that I trust them more than like the
Speaker 1: places on Trip Adviser. It amazes me how many crap
Speaker 1: vlogs you'll make brand and sit through. So I actually
Speaker 1: feel kind of a bit sorry for him. What he's
Speaker 1: going to have to look at now he likes the
Speaker 1: travel ones. Yeah, he's secretly he wouldn't watch knowing Brandon,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't stick through them if you didn't like them.
Speaker 1: You put yourself out your comfort zone this week as well,
Speaker 1: haven't you. Yeah. I actually I learned how to ride
Speaker 1: a motorbike on the weekend, to mom's absolute disgust. So
Speaker 1: if anyone knows our mother, there's nothing more. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what she hates more tattoos or motorbikes and people
Speaker 1: are not brushing their teeth. Yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 1: But so my boyfriend Dale, he's been riding motorbikes since
Speaker 1: he was twelve, and he was that like a humble brag.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend's been riding motorbikes since he was twelve. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well anyway, I'm just giving the facts here.
Speaker 1: And he was really wanting to teach me how to ride.
Speaker 1: And I didn't say anything to mom because I didn't
Speaker 1: want her to worry anyway. Wow, it's body complicated, but
Speaker 1: I managed to ride the motorbike by myself, and I
Speaker 1: was so proud and can I just interrupted here in
Speaker 1: the car. Amy gave me this full run through of
Speaker 1: how to ride the motorbike and I was actually like,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be rude, but I was kind
Speaker 1: of shocked at the level of detail. I don't want so.
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain how difficult it actually is,
Speaker 1: how I had a new fun respect for people who
Speaker 1: ride motorbikes, but it was it was funny. I told
Speaker 1: Dale to film me riding the motorbike to send it
Speaker 1: to you guys, because I thought you wouldn't believe me,
Speaker 1: And then I watched it back. I couldn't believe how
Speaker 1: small the motorbike looked, at how slow I was going,
Speaker 1: and how shit you looked. I feel like this whole
Speaker 1: segment's been a big plug to follow our Instagram accounts
Speaker 1: because me uploaded this. I had a bit of a chuckle.
Speaker 1: You uploaded someone going really really fast. Yeah, well, I'll
Speaker 1: put it on our Insta story. You guys can see
Speaker 1: how stupid I looked ahead of every sort of neck brace,
Speaker 1: arm pads, everything on. Just in case I felt, did
Speaker 1: you have a mouthguard? No, I did it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I nearly shot myself when I got in the back
Speaker 1: of Dale's motorbike. I don't think I've ever like it.
Speaker 1: Seems like he was writing like two hundred k's but
Speaker 1: apparently it was quite slow and I just didn't shit yourself.
Speaker 1: We can't put that mouthguard coming into context. When we
Speaker 1: were growing up. Our mum's a dental therapist and she
Speaker 1: made us wear mouthguards whilst playing netball, a non contact sport.
Speaker 1: Haven't lived that one down, WHI should probably move on
Speaker 1: to the first topic. This week, Meghan Mikel and Prince
Speaker 1: Harry have rewritten the fairy tale turning their backs on
Speaker 1: the monarchy. Megs. It has dominated our feeds after Prince
Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan Markel announced on Instagram they'll be stepping
Speaker 1: back from their jobs as senior royals and splitting their
Speaker 1: time between the UK and North America. The news has
Speaker 1: not only shocked the public, but the royal family will
Speaker 1: Peter to have been blindsided by the announcement, Amy, can
Speaker 1: you tell us about how it to all unfolded? Well,
Speaker 1: the bit I love most I think about this story
Speaker 1: is the fact that they made the announcement on Instagram,
Speaker 1: as you said, and I think it shows just exactly
Speaker 1: what progressive royals are. They knew that that's where the
Speaker 1: eyeballs were, and the Instagram post was also used to
Speaker 1: promote their new Royal Sussex website and that's where they're
Speaker 1: going to be posting all their news. And they did
Speaker 1: have a pretty interesting media policy, which Kate knows a
Speaker 1: little bit more about. Are you able to fill us
Speaker 1: in a bit more, Kate, Well, I suppose that's where
Speaker 1: the Instagram post has holds its most relevance because basically
Speaker 1: a part of the Royal media policy is they have
Speaker 1: to adhere to this Royal Rota which was established forty
Speaker 1: years ago and basically there's seven chosen media publications that
Speaker 1: are allowed exclusive access to their engagements and special events.
Speaker 1: So you'd be pretty shocked to find out that out
Speaker 1: of these seven publications, the Sun and the Daily Mail
Speaker 1: are included. Well, the Daily Mail is such a fine
Speaker 1: media outlet, is a lot of people will also know
Speaker 1: that the Royals are currently suing the Sun for and
Speaker 1: when you say Royal, was Harry and Meghan suing the Sun,
Speaker 1: which I suppose, it makes what they had to say
Speaker 1: in their statement a bit more interesting in terms of
Speaker 1: their new look at the media. So what are they
Speaker 1: actually doing now? Well, so, as you said, Harry is
Speaker 1: suing the Sun for phone hacking, His voicemails, and Meghan
Speaker 1: is also suing the male for the publication of private
Speaker 1: letters to her father. So basically, what I found interesting
Speaker 1: about this media policy is instead of going through this
Speaker 1: Royal Rota, they are now opening it up to fresh new,
Speaker 1: non established journalists that have you know, have a diverse speech.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there now. If they'd like
Speaker 1: to appear on Outspoken, well yeah, that we definitely take her.
Speaker 1: So basically, anyway, what was interesting about this Royal Rota
Speaker 1: is that the Royals actually can't upload anything to social
Speaker 1: media normally. So I mean I always thought, oh, where's
Speaker 1: Kate Middleton's Instagram? Where's Williams? But it's not because they
Speaker 1: don't want to have it. It's actually because in order
Speaker 1: to upload any fresh photo of themselves it's never been
Speaker 1: seen before, the royal family have to pass it through
Speaker 1: this Royal Rota, who then have access to publish it
Speaker 1: wherever they want. Well, we're living in a time when
Speaker 1: obviously Meghan Markel as a thirty six year old and
Speaker 1: eight well when she met Harry she was thirty six.
Speaker 1: As a thirty six year old, she was coming into
Speaker 1: the royal family. Obviously with her acting background, but also
Speaker 1: one point four million followers on Instagram, and even though
Speaker 1: she deactivated that account, it gave media time to get
Speaker 1: a hold of those pictures. So for Megan, it would
Speaker 1: be very strange going into this world where suddenly you
Speaker 1: can't even be sharing about your personal life. So taking
Speaker 1: back that control must feel quite good for her. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's why it was so powerful that they
Speaker 1: made the announcement on Instagram, the place that they're actually
Speaker 1: not allowed to post. Do you guys think that now
Speaker 1: this is all happened, her Instagram might come back? Definitely
Speaker 1: for sure. They actually have said that now, you know,
Speaker 1: turning against the royal rota, that we are expected to
Speaker 1: see a lot more photos about their lives and they're
Speaker 1: going to be sharing directly with us, which I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing, Like what a cool thing that now we
Speaker 1: can actually see firsthand from the royals rather than going
Speaker 1: through the fucking sun to see a picture of Archie.
Speaker 1: And it's safe to say that Buckingham Palace, we're not
Speaker 1: really aware that this Instagram post was going to go out,
Speaker 1: or so they would lead us to believe. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine the Queen's face seeing that? I mean one. I
Speaker 1: don't know if she actually has Instagram, so someone probably
Speaker 1: had to tell her. But can you do you think
Speaker 1: they have fake profiles? Well, Harry and Megan, not the Queen,
Speaker 1: but like other royals, I was sure they'd be private,
Speaker 1: and they have like five follows. Why why is Beatrice
Speaker 1: lad half one? She's She's one of the only royals
Speaker 1: with her own instrucause I think it's only the senior
Speaker 1: royals that have to adhere. Maybe. Yeah, So the Buckingham
Speaker 1: Palace put out this pretty controversial statement. It was one line.
Speaker 1: It said, we understand their desire to take a different approach,
Speaker 1: but these are complicated issues that will take time to
Speaker 1: work through. So basically the rest of the royals are
Speaker 1: pissed off about From what I heard, Prince William was
Speaker 1: enraged because he can't. I mean, he could do what
Speaker 1: Prince Harry has done, but there'd be so much more
Speaker 1: backlash where it kind of seemed like Harry, which is
Speaker 1: I think why everyone loves him, kind of sets his
Speaker 1: own tone. And we've got to remember Harry is sixth
Speaker 1: in line to the throne. I mean, and we've also remember,
Speaker 1: as you said, Prince William could do this, but as
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. Does everyone remember what happened
Speaker 1: with King Edward and Wallace Simpson. This is history repeating itself.
Speaker 1: That was pretty embarrassing. There was a Sunrise Live cross
Speaker 1: to some sort of royal expert in Australia and she
Speaker 1: was like, this is the first time we're ever seeing
Speaker 1: anything like this happen. Yeah, I saw that Sunrise cross.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I went to look at the comments to see if
Speaker 1: anybody else had noticed. So, for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: years ago, Prince Edward ended up falling in love with
Speaker 1: an American actress who was also a divorce a like
Speaker 1: Megan Mircale, and he ended up having to abdicate the
Speaker 1: throne in order to marry her. So that's when Queen
Speaker 1: Elizabeth's dad actually became the king. So if he'd never
Speaker 1: abdicated and fell in love with this American actress, we
Speaker 1: would never have the queen is there we have now?
Speaker 1: We never have Prince Harry. We never had this issue
Speaker 1: that we're having. How ironic is it, though, that it's
Speaker 1: another American actress divorce as it's very scandious. She never
Speaker 1: heard the word diverse divorce are used so often. We
Speaker 1: should probably talk about what motivated their decision because it
Speaker 1: does run parallel to their media policy on their website.
Speaker 1: So it appears they were motivated because of the disgusting
Speaker 1: treatment that they received from the UK press. You might
Speaker 1: remember a couple of months ago we did a podcast
Speaker 1: where we dissected Harry's statement regarding his wife's treatment from
Speaker 1: the British media. In the letter, Harry drew parallel to
Speaker 1: the press's treatment of Meghan, Michael and his mother, Princess Diana, who,
Speaker 1: of course everyone will know, tragically died in a car
Speaker 1: accident when she was trying to escape from the paparazzi.
Speaker 1: So he claimed that Meghan was being targeted by the
Speaker 1: British press. He said he would be taking legal action
Speaker 1: against the publication for running a smear campaign against his wife.
Speaker 1: Now I find this found this quite interesting. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize all of the ridiculous claims the British press have
Speaker 1: made about Meghan, So were you guys aware of this?
Speaker 1: So during a charity book tour for the victims of
Speaker 1: Grenfell Tower, the Telegraph somehow linked the Duchess to supporting terrorism.
Speaker 1: Later The Daily Mail reported that Meghan's consumption of avocado
Speaker 1: was fueling human rights abuse, draup and murder, and then
Speaker 1: The Express published an article with the headline claiming that
Speaker 1: Harry was miserable because she was such a difficult person
Speaker 1: to deal with. That's so disgusting. I also have been
Speaker 1: seeing a few screenshots of different articles pop up, and
Speaker 1: the different media coverage surrounding Kate Middleton and Meghan Markel
Speaker 1: has been astounding. Kate has been painted in an angelic way.
Speaker 1: For instance, there was an article which showed how the
Speaker 1: press was saying how gorgeous it was that Kate Middleton
Speaker 1: was holding a baby bump, and then the next article
Speaker 1: by the same publication was slamming Meghan Markle as being,
Speaker 1: you know, so needy and attention seeking by holding her
Speaker 1: baby bump. It's quite concerning the difference, and it makes
Speaker 1: you think, what is the reason. Why Is it because
Speaker 1: you need to have Kate Middleton be this angelic figure
Speaker 1: because she will one day been you know? Is it
Speaker 1: because Meghan Markle is wack? Do you not think that
Speaker 1: it might be encouraged by the fact that the Royal
Speaker 1: Rot which is publishing a lot of these things that
Speaker 1: it's been pushed by the Royal family. There was a
Speaker 1: really interesting opinion piece on news dot com and it
Speaker 1: was talking about why Kate Middleton is really the biggest
Speaker 1: loser out of the royal split, and people may not
Speaker 1: know that the announcement actually came on her thirty eighth birthday,
Speaker 1: which was very much overshadowed by this announcement, and on
Speaker 1: her birthday she was photographed driving into Kensington Palace wearing
Speaker 1: a very unregal puffer jacket and she just looked really
Speaker 1: upset and pissed off in the photo. Many people are
Speaker 1: reflecting on the fact that it might mean a lot
Speaker 1: of extra work for Kate Middleton. But what this opinion
Speaker 1: piece was saying that the most the worst that's to
Speaker 1: come from it is the women are already being pitted
Speaker 1: against each other, you know, but until now they were
Speaker 1: very much on equal footing. Both are in their thirties,
Speaker 1: both of moms, both are obviously gorgeous looking. Now the
Speaker 1: fact that Megan has stepped out on her it's going
Speaker 1: to make things even more difficult because she you think
Speaker 1: about it, Meghan has now has the freedoms to be
Speaker 1: able to speak at any sort of international conference that
Speaker 1: she wants to. She can actually talk about politics, she
Speaker 1: can wear whatever she likes without being I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a bad thing for Kate Middleton on equal
Speaker 1: footings And if anything, I feel like Kate Middleton, as
Speaker 1: we said, is going to be the golden child now
Speaker 1: and every negative article is going to be about Meghan.
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, Meghan Michael is going
Speaker 1: to be able to speak at World Economic forums at
Speaker 1: the un She's going to actually have put her mark
Speaker 1: on the world while also being but everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be tearing her down. Plus, I don't think they were
Speaker 1: on equal footings. Meghani Mirkal was thirty six when she
Speaker 1: joined the royal family. She had a full life, she
Speaker 1: was a you know, an actress, she had it, lived
Speaker 1: a completely different background. I mean Kate Middleton was put
Speaker 1: into the same university as William Just to me, well,
Speaker 1: they say they're on equal footings, is in because at
Speaker 1: that point in time they both were living very similar
Speaker 1: lives once they got into the royal family. Kate and
Speaker 1: I were actually having quite an interesting conversation today when
Speaker 1: we were preparing for this podcast, and we were discussing
Speaker 1: the fact that it seems like Kate Middleton has had
Speaker 1: a lot more time to get I suppose this royal
Speaker 1: thing right, and the fact that she's married Prince William,
Speaker 1: I suppose expectations have been completely different on her because
Speaker 1: she is in line to be the queen, her kids
Speaker 1: are going to be the You know, does she become
Speaker 1: the queen or a princess? Because I'm not sure actually
Speaker 1: will I believe she does become the queen? In going
Speaker 1: back back? Can't just finished my point. The thing is,
Speaker 1: as you said, Meghan Markle has lived thirty six years
Speaker 1: as what he described as a commoner. She's been famous,
Speaker 1: she's had Instagram accounts, She's done everything. So it seems
Speaker 1: like her life so far hasn't been building up to
Speaker 1: be a royal. What I find particularly interesting about this
Speaker 1: whole thing, which I we've touched on before, is the
Speaker 1: fact that they went through Instagram and didn't tell the Queen.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: the opinion piece out there saying that they're pissed off
Speaker 1: that they think that they disrespected the Queen and Prince
Speaker 1: William and Prince Charles for not telling them first. But
Speaker 1: I actually don't think that they had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do that. I think that these news organizations are part
Speaker 1: of this royal rota, are so in with some of
Speaker 1: the family that they dictate what is going to be said. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we've had the Prince Andrew scandal, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the time there's been a lot of conversations
Speaker 1: around the fact that Meghan mark was being used as distraction.
Speaker 1: You know, there was rumors around Prince William and cheating
Speaker 1: on Kate. Obviously, this Prince Andrew thing again. And it
Speaker 1: seems like the common thing coming out of all the
Speaker 1: publications to do with this royal rota is the fact
Speaker 1: that Meghan's a bitch? Is anyone else just sick of
Speaker 1: the way this narrative always plays out. I mean, people
Speaker 1: are comparing Meghan Markel to Yoko Ono except even worse.
Speaker 1: And what I find perplexing is the fact why is
Speaker 1: it always the woman? Why is that Meghan market? Obviously
Speaker 1: Prince Harry has had some say in this. He's always
Speaker 1: been the royal that's been a bit rogue. He always
Speaker 1: does his own thing. Why does everybody care so much?
Speaker 1: Why can't they go and live their lives? I honestly
Speaker 1: think it's because the British people think that they own
Speaker 1: the Royals. There's all this backlash, Oh we paink for
Speaker 1: the renovation near Kernage's shut up, you don't fucking own them.
Speaker 1: Why do we not think that Harry wants to leave
Speaker 1: on his own accord. He has gone through a dreadful
Speaker 1: childhood of having his mother hounded by the press and
Speaker 1: then practically killed because of their constant harassment. But the
Speaker 1: thing is they're not saying they they're not going to
Speaker 1: be a part of anything to do with the Royal Family.
Speaker 1: Their statement, I thought was quite respectful. They're just saying
Speaker 1: they don't want to be paid anymore by the Royal Family.
Speaker 1: And obviously if you're getting a wage or whatever it
Speaker 1: is from the Royal family, they own you and they
Speaker 1: tell you what you need to do. They're saying, we
Speaker 1: want to stand at our own feet, we want to
Speaker 1: do our own thing, we want to talk to whatever
Speaker 1: media we want to talk to and push our own agendas.
Speaker 1: And it's quite interesting because it seems like there's a
Speaker 1: lot that they know about the Royal Family that they
Speaker 1: may potentially or be rumored to be threatening if they
Speaker 1: if the Royal found they're going to make this exit messy.
Speaker 1: What seems to be at the brunt of this backclash
Speaker 1: is the fact that people think Harry and Meghan are
Speaker 1: having their cake and eating it too. People are pissed
Speaker 1: off that they think their money is going towards the
Speaker 1: funding of their extravagant lifestyle, but in actual fact, it's
Speaker 1: only five percent of the Sovereign grant, which is the
Speaker 1: taxpayers money that goes towards the Royal family that is
Speaker 1: actually funding them. So to dumb this down, they're only
Speaker 1: getting five percent of taxpayers money. But what is quite interesting,
Speaker 1: which you were telling me about before, is that the
Speaker 1: rest of their ninety five percent paycheck is made up
Speaker 1: by money from Prince Charles, which is also causing a
Speaker 1: bit of controversy. Yeah, so ninety five percent of the
Speaker 1: income is coming from Prince Charles who owns the Duchy
Speaker 1: of Cornwell, which is a portfolio of agricultural investments, and
Speaker 1: that is where the money for Prince Harry and then
Speaker 1: also Prince William comes from. But I'm guessing a lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying, well, that's bullshit, because he's making
Speaker 1: all of this money off being a Royal family member. Anyway.
Speaker 1: But isn't that just irrelevant because there's so many people
Speaker 1: out there that get money from their parents. It's not
Speaker 1: irrelevant because at the end of the day, people want
Speaker 1: to have access to the royal family and they feel
Speaker 1: that they are paying for the Royal family to have
Speaker 1: this lifestyle. So the whole argument is, well, what, they
Speaker 1: can't be fucked to go and open these shelters and
Speaker 1: dood the boring parts of it, but they'll take the
Speaker 1: good parts with it. I don't know if that's at
Speaker 1: all true. I think the reason that they're leaving is
Speaker 1: because of the disgusting press coverage. I think they're also
Speaker 1: leaving because Meghan grew up. I'm not saying that's the
Speaker 1: reason they're leaving. I'm saying that's the reason people are
Speaker 1: pissed off. What has been feeling at my feet at
Speaker 1: the moment is the amount of money people are speculating
Speaker 1: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are set to make when
Speaker 1: they do venture to North America. It's already been announced
Speaker 1: that Meghan Markle is going to be voicing a character
Speaker 1: for a Disney movie, and apparently this was actually organized
Speaker 1: while she was still part a senior member of the
Speaker 1: royal family. It will be very interesting to see how
Speaker 1: much money they do make off talks. There have been
Speaker 1: mentions that they're going to make six seven, eight figure
Speaker 1: amount of these talks. You know what. I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone's getting so obsessed with the money side of things.
Speaker 1: I do not think they're doing this for the money.
Speaker 1: I feel like if they just wanted to sit on
Speaker 1: their asses and have a cozy and have an easy lifestyle,
Speaker 1: they would continue to be a part of the rule.
Speaker 1: I suppose the whole money thing comes because the fact
Speaker 1: that they said that they want to be financially independent.
Speaker 1: I think they were saying that they wanted to be
Speaker 1: financially independent, so people would actually like that, because they're saying,
Speaker 1: we don't want the money. We just want to go
Speaker 1: and do our own thing. I don't want that speculation,
Speaker 1: we don't want to have to abide by all this
Speaker 1: bullshit rules. We don't want to talk to this bullshit
Speaker 1: media who were hacking our phones allegedly and doing all
Speaker 1: this bullshit. Now that I think people are just focusing
Speaker 1: on the money to be negative and to tell can
Speaker 1: I ask you, do you think that taxpayer money should
Speaker 1: pay for their security? Then I don't see an issue
Speaker 1: with it because Harry has been born into this situation.
Speaker 1: He didn't ask to be Prince Harry. The argument could
Speaker 1: be should they protect Meghan because she knew what she
Speaker 1: was getting into, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Prince Harry didn't ask for this. He can't help who
Speaker 1: he falls in love with. He is sixth in line,
Speaker 1: so yes, for all the bullshit he's had to put
Speaker 1: up with, I don't understand why they can't pay for
Speaker 1: his security. Now, moving away from the money, the thing
Speaker 1: that has captivated me the most with this announcement is
Speaker 1: the fact that Megan Michael has shown girls and women
Speaker 1: all around the world that there is so much more
Speaker 1: than just dreaming about becoming a princess. Elle magazine wrote
Speaker 1: this amazing piece and they spoke about how, you know,
Speaker 1: Meghan grew up in a time when being a princess
Speaker 1: was everything, and she basically had what every girl wanted
Speaker 1: to be part of the British royal family, and that
Speaker 1: she achieved this dream in front of so many people,
Speaker 1: Yet she decided last week for her that that wasn't
Speaker 1: enough for her. There was so much more to life
Speaker 1: than just living this lifestyle. I think Princess Diana showed
Speaker 1: being a role isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Speaker 1: I do like the whole and allergy that she's rewriting
Speaker 1: the fairy tale because I think I don't know it. Actually,
Speaker 1: even though I said I was shocked initially, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really surprise me thinking about it now, because if you
Speaker 1: look into the you know, if you look into Meghan
Speaker 1: Markle's life, she's always been a pioneer. She's always sort
Speaker 1: of fought for women's rights and being a princess that
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit in with me. It's basically what Princess
Speaker 1: Diana did. Obviously she got divorced from Prince Charles, but
Speaker 1: she didn't have to divorce him. She could have stayed
Speaker 1: unhappily married for many years. So I think Harry really
Speaker 1: is following in Diana's footsteps. So I think that's why everyone,
Speaker 1: most people, most sane people, young people think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I think when Meghan Markle was first introduced to us
Speaker 1: as Harry's new partner, there was this strong hope that
Speaker 1: she would become the next people's princess because, similarly to Diana,
Speaker 1: she's obviously very intelligent. She has feminist principles, but I
Speaker 1: feel like she's done so much more by making this move,
Speaker 1: because she showed us that you don't have to be
Speaker 1: this perfect princess and that maybe our princess dreams of
Speaker 1: being mispoortous. She is the modern day princess because these
Speaker 1: days women want to say what they want and do
Speaker 1: what they want. So she's exactly doing well. She's showing
Speaker 1: that you don't have to speak, you don't have to
Speaker 1: compromise yourself because there's a stronger there's stronger forces that
Speaker 1: are trying to bring you down. Do you know what though,
Speaker 1: if you look at Princess Diana, she only became the
Speaker 1: people's princess when she separated from Charles. That's when she
Speaker 1: started dropping all the bombs. That's when she did that
Speaker 1: explosive interview where she revealed all of the dirty secrets
Speaker 1: that were going on about Charles's affair, that she threw
Speaker 1: herself down the stairs, that she had on Erexit. Also,
Speaker 1: her charity endeavors too, which is what Harry and Meghan
Speaker 1: a big part of why they want to break away.
Speaker 1: They want to do that, they want to back the
Speaker 1: charity that they chew. Well, that's what I was going
Speaker 1: to say. I mean, when she was separated from the
Speaker 1: royal family, that's when she could start doing all of
Speaker 1: those amazing charitable things. So perhaps we are going to
Speaker 1: see Megan Mirkl become the people's princess when she's away
Speaker 1: from the royal family and she's able to do what
Speaker 1: she wants to do. It is quite interesting to consider
Speaker 1: why people are so against them doing things a little differently.
Speaker 1: I mean, exactly what is going to be gained by
Speaker 1: forcing a young couple to remain entrenched in a situation
Speaker 1: that isn't working for them anymore. Yeah, well, we will
Speaker 1: finally find out what the go actually is with this
Speaker 1: because today in Britain the Sandringham Summit is being held,
Speaker 1: so basically it's the big crisis meeting between the family.
Speaker 1: The Queen has called in Prince Harry, Prince William and
Speaker 1: Prince Charles, and Meghan is actually going to be on
Speaker 1: the phone, which would be interesting because she's back in
Speaker 1: Canada with Master Archie. I heard she caught a budget fly.
Speaker 1: She sneaked back back to Canada, So no Royal jets
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but that was pretty cool. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so can you imagine the shade on the flone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would joined us on the phone. I'd love to
Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall. What seems like the
Speaker 1: Queen is pretty content on making the fallout as minimal
Speaker 1: as possible, even though I don't think that's possible. I'd
Speaker 1: be really interested from a pr perspective to see them
Speaker 1: what the hours that they're clocking up trying to solve
Speaker 1: this so it comes out in the best interests of
Speaker 1: the royal family. What is going to be really interesting
Speaker 1: to see is the resolution of this conversation, because a
Speaker 1: journalist of the name Tom Bradbury has actually come out.
Speaker 1: He's close to the family and he's warned that things
Speaker 1: might not be that great for the royal family if
Speaker 1: it isn't resolved with Harry and Meghan basically set to
Speaker 1: dish the dirt. Yeah, from what they're reporting, there may
Speaker 1: be a new royal scandal if things don't go their way,
Speaker 1: because they're threatening to dish dirt on stuff that's gone
Speaker 1: on in the royal family, including racial slurs, sexist comments,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So I don't think they're threatening
Speaker 1: to dish the dirt, but they're basically going to dish
Speaker 1: the dirt if it's out their bargaining tool. Perhaps, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think it is because in the popularity polls at
Speaker 1: the moment, all of those the Queen and Prince Harry
Speaker 1: and Prince Charles are pretty high up there, just like them.
Speaker 1: But I think that their popularity may plummet down once
Speaker 1: this dirt is dished. Yeah, so I can't wait for
Speaker 1: the outcome of this crisis. Talk moving on to our
Speaker 1: new segment, and it is the Pit and Peak of
Speaker 1: social Media. This week we will be looking at what
Speaker 1: are some of our favorite moments that have happened this
Speaker 1: week and what are some of the most controversial. Now
Speaker 1: kicking us off cake, can you tell us about the
Speaker 1: peak of the week that involved a friend of the podcast,
Speaker 1: Sam Magnan. I loved this post. It was an Instagram
Speaker 1: story of the legend Sam Magnan, who is a pr
Speaker 1: god put up. He has his own podcasting. He's pretty
Speaker 1: loud and proud about the fact that he doesn't give
Speaker 1: in to uber driver's demands to meet them on the street. Instead,
Speaker 1: he actually makes the meet at the front door. So
Speaker 1: he had a screenshot from a conversation he'd had with
Speaker 1: an uber Eats delivery person. The person said I'm out
Speaker 1: the front, and he said, I'm at my door. I
Speaker 1: just found that so funny. I have great respect for
Speaker 1: that because they do try to pressure you into kind
Speaker 1: of meeting them halfway, and it's like, I'm paying for
Speaker 1: this delivery, So could you actually do your job? I
Speaker 1: always crumble and go outside to meet them. And Amy,
Speaker 1: would you like to tell us about the pit of
Speaker 1: the week, Well, the most embarrassing, Well, the pit of
Speaker 1: the week is a US Bachelor contestant who actually feel
Speaker 1: a bit sorry for her because it's so embarrassed. So
Speaker 1: she's on the latest series and she's got her Instagram
Speaker 1: account set up and basically she went to write a
Speaker 1: comment under her post in a fake name, but was
Speaker 1: logged into her own accounts. So it seems that she's
Speaker 1: been commenting how great she is under pictures of herself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a comment about how real she was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're so real, except it was her own official account
Speaker 1: commenting how real she was on her own photo. She's
Speaker 1: copped a lot of shit online, but her friend who
Speaker 1: runs her was apparently running her account while she was
Speaker 1: in lockdown, has said that she actually went to write
Speaker 1: the comment in a fan page or something, and that's
Speaker 1: how it's happened. Have you guys ever done that before,
Speaker 1: as in, maybe not to the extent of having fake
Speaker 1: Instagram accounts, but where you've text message, you've sent a
Speaker 1: text to somebody that you didn't mean to or all
Speaker 1: the time. That's a worse feeling. Oh I did it.
Speaker 1: At school. There was this girl who were kind of
Speaker 1: friends with and she would constantly bludge off school and
Speaker 1: it was probably the fifth day she'd bludge because she
Speaker 1: had a sore arm has a bit over it by then.
Speaker 1: Let's just say I remember her saw it was sore
Speaker 1: because she walked and it brushed against the site of
Speaker 1: a wall. That's goool, And then she'd have to wrestling anyway, hypochondria.
Speaker 1: And I text her being like I thought. I was
Speaker 1: texting mom, like can you believe this girl has been
Speaker 1: away again? I can't believe it. And then I had
Speaker 1: to play it off like I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I just can't believe you're on well again. She
Speaker 1: didn't know we weren't friends. Shortly after that, Now, moving
Speaker 1: on to our next topic. On Friday, model and fitness
Speaker 1: influencer Steph Claire Smith stepped out to celebrate her twenty
Speaker 1: sixth birthday with a romantic dinner with husband Josh. The
Speaker 1: newlyweds shared the evening with their combined one point six
Speaker 1: million followers on Instagram. Later that night, thieves stole Josh's
Speaker 1: Blackoudi straight out of their garage. Just five months earlier,
Speaker 1: the influences were victims of a smash and grab when
Speaker 1: their passports were stolen while dining with friends. Now there
Speaker 1: has been a lot of taught that social media could
Speaker 1: potentially have played a big part in this, So if
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on all of it? It was really
Speaker 1: interesting to watch this whole incident unfold on social media.
Speaker 1: Social media was used in several ways. Firstly, it was
Speaker 1: really interesting to note that before this robbery happened, they
Speaker 1: were very much posting about their whereabouts and actions that
Speaker 1: night because, as you mentioned previously, it was Steph Klea
Speaker 1: Smith's birthday, so they were out at a very fancy restaurant.
Speaker 1: The robbery actually happened at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: So my initial gut feeling, and I'm obviously not a
Speaker 1: police officer here, but because these robbers would have known
Speaker 1: that Steph and Josh were out, they had time to
Speaker 1: scope out the building, They had time to work out
Speaker 1: where they could enter the garage to steal the car.
Speaker 1: It was. Is that what you guys gauged from the
Speaker 1: incident online? Well, I think it's a warning to influences
Speaker 1: all around the world. They just have to be so careful.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember when Kim Kardashian was held at gunpoint.
Speaker 1: I know that incident changed her social media behavior. She
Speaker 1: no longer posts her Insta stories when they're happening, so
Speaker 1: she'll save them and then upload them later. Did anyone
Speaker 1: notice that the fact that Josh's car had his registration
Speaker 1: it was Jane Miller as well. It's a pretty identifiable AUDI.
Speaker 1: You don't see too many of them. Well, you do
Speaker 1: see a lot of beautiful cars in Melbourne. But the
Speaker 1: faight that had those normal plates, Well, Steph was saying
Speaker 1: online that the robbers may have obviously removed the plates
Speaker 1: to get away with this. What is quite startling though,
Speaker 1: is in August last year, Steph made headlines with mainstream
Speaker 1: media because she put an emotional plea on Instagram when
Speaker 1: she had her passport stolen. So they were also out
Speaker 1: at dinner in August with some friends and Josh's backpack
Speaker 1: was in one of the friends cars and there was
Speaker 1: a smash and grab incident where robbers took this bag out.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think it's something that
Speaker 1: they're wanting to get from Stephan Josh because in Josh's
Speaker 1: message on Instagram, he did say that there were items
Speaker 1: in the car that were very important. He didn't really
Speaker 1: go into it, but it seems very targeted. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: definitely think it's targeted, and I think social media was
Speaker 1: used at it as a tool to know their whereabouts
Speaker 1: and how to sneak into their house. It's actually quite
Speaker 1: timely because people who listen to this podcast will know.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Facebook Marketplace and ive just
Speaker 1: been selling my absolute shit online and I was thinking
Speaker 1: the other day about Facebook Marketplace and could that potentially
Speaker 1: be a tool to rob people? Because no one was
Speaker 1: anything good on there though, No, but to know when
Speaker 1: people are going to be home, because I had some
Speaker 1: person say they were going to go, oh, can I
Speaker 1: come over now? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: come over. They never came. I asked them so many times,
Speaker 1: are you coming over? Blah blah and never responded and
Speaker 1: then messaged me, Willy Nelly, are you home? And I
Speaker 1: actually wasn't home, and I thought, did you give them
Speaker 1: your address? Yeah, and they'd already had my address. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to say I'm not at
Speaker 1: home because they might come and rob me. So when
Speaker 1: I heard this news about Steph and Josh, I was like, Ooh,
Speaker 1: the weird thing is that they chose to rob them
Speaker 1: when they were at home. I felt so sorry for Steph.
Speaker 1: She was putting up some emotional Instagram stories about how
Speaker 1: upset she was, and this was all while she was
Speaker 1: trying to celebrate her twenty sixth birthday. I was actually
Speaker 1: fearful though, that she might get some backlash because she was,
Speaker 1: you know, being pretty honest about how upset she was.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, I hope with all the bushfires
Speaker 1: going on and people have been dickheads, that no one
Speaker 1: was gonna tell her off for being upset because this
Speaker 1: is a legitimate reason to be upset. Well, let's let's
Speaker 1: be honest. Regardless of whether she's right or wrong, there's
Speaker 1: always going to be someone on social media who has
Speaker 1: a problem with it. No one's ever happy on social media.
Speaker 1: It is becoming quite a problem. Obviously, social media is
Speaker 1: becoming more prominent and people are using it in the
Speaker 1: everyday lives, and police said that over the past two years,
Speaker 1: there's been two dozen celebrity burglaries across Los Angeles. So
Speaker 1: people like Kelly Clark's and Hillary Duff, Scott Disick, even
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner are just some of the celebrities that have
Speaker 1: experienced break ins. And what is most disturbing is that
Speaker 1: the majority of these celebrities houses were broken into after
Speaker 1: they've made posts online about their whereabouts. It's all the
Speaker 1: instera stories, isn't it. Because a Whitney post a picture,
Speaker 1: it could have been anytime. But it's the fact that
Speaker 1: insta stories keep you up to date with what people
Speaker 1: are doing. You know exactly where they are. The instant
Speaker 1: nature is what's putting them at risk. Well it's even
Speaker 1: Twitter because Rhianna she put up on Twitter that she
Speaker 1: was at an event in Dubai and that evening her
Speaker 1: house was burgled. So it is quite scary. All the
Speaker 1: different platforms they've got. Shul think they've got security though
Speaker 1: when they're away, well that's the scary thing. I think
Speaker 1: with like Steph Claire Smith, who you wouldn't say is
Speaker 1: on the level of Rhianna or the Kardashians. It's kind
Speaker 1: of scary for her because she doesn't have personal security
Speaker 1: following her around. She's a big star in her own
Speaker 1: right due to social media, and you know, all these
Speaker 1: influences have a lot of expensive things don't seem to
Speaker 1: have the security to actually protect them. But it's even
Speaker 1: for non celebrities. If you're posting a lot on social
Speaker 1: media about being out and or you're on holiday and
Speaker 1: people know where you live, that your house then becomes
Speaker 1: a target. So it's kind of a bit concerning because
Speaker 1: it makes you think, well, how do I use social media?
Speaker 1: Do I not post in the stories when I'm out?
Speaker 1: Do I not give my address to people on Facebook, Marketplace?
Speaker 1: Or you know what I mean. I think this incident
Speaker 1: does show that we should all be a little bit
Speaker 1: more careful and put a bit more thought into when
Speaker 1: we are sharing. As you say, and now we're moving
Speaker 1: on to our new segment, which is called Who's on
Speaker 1: Our Feed? And this is where we're going to detail
Speaker 1: some of our favorite influences of the week. Sophie, I
Speaker 1: was kind of surprised to hear your new favorite, but
Speaker 1: then after watching her content, I'm also sold. Tell us
Speaker 1: about your YouTuber of the week. We might be surprising
Speaker 1: to some, but her name is Anastasia kings North and
Speaker 1: she is a nineteen year old British girl who I
Speaker 1: have literally become obsessed with watching her YouTube. So if
Speaker 1: just likes her because she says taco likes how taco
Speaker 1: to taco? Yeah, there's been an on running debate of
Speaker 1: the pronunciation of some of the Mexican foods. Anyway, she
Speaker 1: has some incredible content and what I'm liking about her
Speaker 1: is she is incredibly consistent, incredible. She's incredible, incredibly consistent.
Speaker 1: She's also not afraid to share, which I think what
Speaker 1: a lot about Australian influencers are lacking at the moment.
Speaker 1: She shares everything. I think they share until they get
Speaker 1: too big and then they don't want to share anymore.
Speaker 1: But she does cool videos like I've only eaten pink
Speaker 1: food for today, Here's my mac Donald's mukbun Like Taco
Speaker 1: Bell and Bunk, She's just constantly pumping out content, whereas
Speaker 1: it's just it's not just vlogs. They actually all have
Speaker 1: a theme. Well, what is interesting is she has her
Speaker 1: black her back vlog channel, so that's where she will
Speaker 1: share her vlogs that people like to keep up with her.
Speaker 1: But then she will have her main channel where it's
Speaker 1: actually curated content. And the one that caught my attention
Speaker 1: this week was her say it or Shot It challenge
Speaker 1: with her mother. Now, her poor mother has copped a
Speaker 1: lot of backlash from some of her followers. She's been
Speaker 1: criticized for having weird eyebrows. Go check it out, make
Speaker 1: kept your own mind. Whether you like the idea weird,
Speaker 1: they're a bit weird. I love the mom. It's funny. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's first best to preface it with the
Speaker 1: say it or Shot it. They have to ask each
Speaker 1: other really awkward questions and if they don't want to
Speaker 1: answer the question, they have to take a shot. And
Speaker 1: some of the questions that Anna Stage asked her mom
Speaker 1: were hilarious and she answered them. They were pretty brave
Speaker 1: to share it with one another and also online. The
Speaker 1: funniest was the mother sharing her Tinder experience. It was
Speaker 1: so cringe. Now. These messages consisted of her sharing the
Speaker 1: fact that she hasn't had sex in six years. It
Speaker 1: was her cringe comments back and forth to the guy.
Speaker 1: Everyone has to go and check it out. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1: The conversation just went on and on like they just
Speaker 1: continue to read it out and it just got juicier
Speaker 1: and juicier. And these were messages on Christmas Day as well,
Speaker 1: even though the mum denied messaging this guy from Tinder
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. Now, I have seen this say it
Speaker 1: or Shot It challenge around YouTube a lot, and the
Speaker 1: thing that has frustrated me with a number of the
Speaker 1: influencers is the fact that they have all been asked
Speaker 1: the question, tell us your highest pain campaign on social
Speaker 1: media or shot it? And I'm appalled that none of
Speaker 1: them have answered because one, it pisses me off more
Speaker 1: because it makes it seem like they must earn a
Speaker 1: disgusting amount of money. Yeah, it was just the arrogance,
Speaker 1: no way, And these are like load level influencers that
Speaker 1: are promoting like men shavers who are females. Just as
Speaker 1: a clue, we have decided ourselves though, we've been so
Speaker 1: inspired by this say it or Shot It challenge that
Speaker 1: we want to do it ourselves. So if anyone has
Speaker 1: any juicy questions, I don't even think. I mean, people
Speaker 1: can send some in, but I think that we just
Speaker 1: have to come up with them for each other. Because
Speaker 1: I've got a few juicy ones I can already think
Speaker 1: of throwing in. We'll do a bit of both. If
Speaker 1: someone does have a question they think would be quite
Speaker 1: embarrassing or controversial, please send it in. And I think
Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. If you would like to join
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