1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Sophie 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Kate and Amy Torber. Coming up on the episode, we 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: dissect mexit and the backlash that's followed. Steph clare Smith 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: targeted again by thieves. Is social media to blame and 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: the biggest Instagram fail of the week. But first, K, 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: you had a pretty funny incident happened at work this week? Yeah, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: I did. It was quite embarrassing. I'm a bit of 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: a shitsterir at work and I look after the influencers. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: So there's one influencer a sports style that I've been 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: wanting to come along to the thirty sixers game for 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: probably like three seasons. Now, let's just name him because 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: I feel like people want to know it's Travis Boke. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: So go everyone, go Instagram Travis Bok. That doesn't leave him. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Feel like everyone from Adelaide will know Travis Boke. He 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: has the most, he shares the most epic insta stories. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: He's got this absolute palace of a house where he's 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: got about i'd say three different fireplaces and just his 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: epic pool. It's big, walking drobe cute dog. Anyway, Kay, 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: what happened with him? Disclosure. I hate Port Power, but 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I love Travis Boche anyway, So he said that finally 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: he was coming along to a game, which I was 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: excited about, and so did you try and set this up? Kay? 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well I have. I basically invited all 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: of the Crows and port players that have lots of followers. Anyway, 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: So my boyfriend also works at the thirty six's and 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: I absolutely owned him when Ali Odigin from The Bachelor 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: was coming along. This was why we weren't actually dating, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: but he'd been going on in the office about how 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: he was excited and drooling over her Instagram photos. So 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: when she was actually there at the game last year, 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: she came up to me and I was like, oh, Ali, 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: you see that guy over there and pointed out Race. 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: He's so excited he hasn't stopped talking about the fact 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: that you're coming to the game. So I was so wild. 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty embarrassing. Yeah, So I was so worried leading 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: into the game because my friend Kyle and Reese are 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: also going on that they were going to embarrass me. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: So fortunately I didn't get embarrassed, but I did go 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: up and shake his hand and gave him his pass 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and then I just literally like chucked the other tickets 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: at the other people that I didn't give a shit 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: about that I was. I was sitting in the crowd 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: with my mum and we were just watching it all 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: unfold because Mom's like, oh, okay, it's got the tickets 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: and it was like watching this sick game. And I 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: finally got glasses so I could actually watch. Thought I 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: knew you'd lose your bottle to say anything, but that 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: was the worst bit because Mum told me that she 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: would watch, and I was like, I don't want you 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: to watch, Like, stop making a big deal. It's not 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: a big deal. But anyway, it was quite funny. So 52 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: soph I know, at the basketball you love watching mister 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: fruit Chuck and Murray, But what else have you been 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: doing this weekend? It's so random. If anyone follows Sophie 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram and they'll see that every time she goes 56 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to the thirty sixers game, that's all she uploads. Yeah, 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm a bit fond of mister fruit Chuck. He's very cute. 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: But well, you see the person in there, but people don't. 59 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: People might not know who were not in Adelaide, where 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: a fruit chock is what may they sell fruit chocks 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: in Adelaide? Well? Are you serious? Yeah? That's an absolute travesty. Sorry, 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: excuse our cat crying in the background, and he's been 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: introduced to going outside and now he won't stop. I 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: cannot believe they don't sell fruit chucks everywhere. You're serious? 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Oh god, this is going to be added to Sophie's 66 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: stupid comment. Oh send it to shit Adelaide again. Well, 67 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: if anyone would like any fruit chocks, she should get 68 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: him bloody sent there. Incredible. Anyway, this week, Brandon and 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: I have decided that we're going to go to Bali. 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: It's only like first week of the year and we 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: already need a break from it, so we're gonna We 72 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: noticed there were really really cheap flights. But now my 73 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: job has been trying to track down every YouTuber's barley 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: vlogs to work out where I want to stay. Is 75 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: it wrong that I trust them more than like the 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: places on Trip Adviser. It amazes me how many crap 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: vlogs you'll make brand and sit through. So I actually 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: feel kind of a bit sorry for him. What he's 79 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: going to have to look at now he likes the 80 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: travel ones. Yeah, he's secretly he wouldn't watch knowing Brandon, 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: he wouldn't stick through them if you didn't like them. 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: You put yourself out your comfort zone this week as well, 83 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: haven't you. Yeah. I actually I learned how to ride 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: a motorbike on the weekend, to mom's absolute disgust. So 85 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: if anyone knows our mother, there's nothing more. I'm not 86 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: sure what she hates more tattoos or motorbikes and people 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: are not brushing their teeth. Yeah, it's a hard one. 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: But so my boyfriend Dale, he's been riding motorbikes since 89 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: he was twelve, and he was that like a humble brag. 90 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: My boyfriend's been riding motorbikes since he was twelve. I 91 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Well anyway, I'm just giving the facts here. 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: And he was really wanting to teach me how to ride. 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And I didn't say anything to mom because I didn't 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: want her to worry anyway. Wow, it's body complicated, but 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: I managed to ride the motorbike by myself, and I 96 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: was so proud and can I just interrupted here in 97 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: the car. Amy gave me this full run through of 98 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: how to ride the motorbike and I was actually like, 99 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be rude, but I was kind 100 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: of shocked at the level of detail. I don't want so. 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to explain how difficult it actually is, 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: how I had a new fun respect for people who 103 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: ride motorbikes, but it was it was funny. I told 104 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Dale to film me riding the motorbike to send it 105 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: to you guys, because I thought you wouldn't believe me, 106 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: And then I watched it back. I couldn't believe how 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: small the motorbike looked, at how slow I was going, 108 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and how shit you looked. I feel like this whole 109 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: segment's been a big plug to follow our Instagram accounts 110 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: because me uploaded this. I had a bit of a chuckle. 111 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: You uploaded someone going really really fast. Yeah, well, I'll 112 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: put it on our Insta story. You guys can see 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: how stupid I looked ahead of every sort of neck brace, 114 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: arm pads, everything on. Just in case I felt, did 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: you have a mouthguard? No, I did it, but yeah, 116 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: I nearly shot myself when I got in the back 117 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: of Dale's motorbike. I don't think I've ever like it. 118 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Seems like he was writing like two hundred k's but 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: apparently it was quite slow and I just didn't shit yourself. 120 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: We can't put that mouthguard coming into context. When we 121 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: were growing up. Our mum's a dental therapist and she 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: made us wear mouthguards whilst playing netball, a non contact sport. 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Haven't lived that one down, WHI should probably move on 124 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: to the first topic. This week, Meghan Mikel and Prince 125 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Harry have rewritten the fairy tale turning their backs on 126 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the monarchy. Megs. It has dominated our feeds after Prince 127 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan Markel announced on Instagram they'll be stepping 128 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: back from their jobs as senior royals and splitting their 129 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: time between the UK and North America. The news has 130 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: not only shocked the public, but the royal family will 131 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Peter to have been blindsided by the announcement, Amy, can 132 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: you tell us about how it to all unfolded? Well, 133 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the bit I love most I think about this story 134 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: is the fact that they made the announcement on Instagram, 135 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: as you said, and I think it shows just exactly 136 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: what progressive royals are. They knew that that's where the 137 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: eyeballs were, and the Instagram post was also used to 138 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: promote their new Royal Sussex website and that's where they're 139 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: going to be posting all their news. And they did 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: have a pretty interesting media policy, which Kate knows a 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: little bit more about. Are you able to fill us 142 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: in a bit more, Kate, Well, I suppose that's where 143 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: the Instagram post has holds its most relevance because basically 144 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: a part of the Royal media policy is they have 145 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: to adhere to this Royal Rota which was established forty 146 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: years ago and basically there's seven chosen media publications that 147 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: are allowed exclusive access to their engagements and special events. 148 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: So you'd be pretty shocked to find out that out 149 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: of these seven publications, the Sun and the Daily Mail 150 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: are included. Well, the Daily Mail is such a fine 151 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: media outlet, is a lot of people will also know 152 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: that the Royals are currently suing the Sun for and 153 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: when you say Royal, was Harry and Meghan suing the Sun, 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: which I suppose, it makes what they had to say 155 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: in their statement a bit more interesting in terms of 156 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: their new look at the media. So what are they 157 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: actually doing now? Well, so, as you said, Harry is 158 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: suing the Sun for phone hacking, His voicemails, and Meghan 159 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: is also suing the male for the publication of private 160 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: letters to her father. So basically, what I found interesting 161 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: about this media policy is instead of going through this 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Royal Rota, they are now opening it up to fresh new, 163 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: non established journalists that have you know, have a diverse speech. 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there now. If they'd like 165 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: to appear on Outspoken, well yeah, that we definitely take her. 166 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: So basically, anyway, what was interesting about this Royal Rota 167 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: is that the Royals actually can't upload anything to social 168 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: media normally. So I mean I always thought, oh, where's 169 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Kate Middleton's Instagram? Where's Williams? But it's not because they 170 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: don't want to have it. It's actually because in order 171 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: to upload any fresh photo of themselves it's never been 172 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: seen before, the royal family have to pass it through 173 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: this Royal Rota, who then have access to publish it 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: wherever they want. Well, we're living in a time when 175 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: obviously Meghan Markel as a thirty six year old and 176 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: eight well when she met Harry she was thirty six. 177 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: As a thirty six year old, she was coming into 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: the royal family. Obviously with her acting background, but also 179 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: one point four million followers on Instagram, and even though 180 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: she deactivated that account, it gave media time to get 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: a hold of those pictures. So for Megan, it would 182 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: be very strange going into this world where suddenly you 183 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: can't even be sharing about your personal life. So taking 184 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: back that control must feel quite good for her. Well. 185 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I think that's why it was so powerful that they 186 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: made the announcement on Instagram, the place that they're actually 187 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: not allowed to post. Do you guys think that now 188 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: this is all happened, her Instagram might come back? Definitely 189 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: for sure. They actually have said that now, you know, 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: turning against the royal rota, that we are expected to 191 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: see a lot more photos about their lives and they're 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: going to be sharing directly with us, which I think 193 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: it's amazing, Like what a cool thing that now we 194 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: can actually see firsthand from the royals rather than going 195 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: through the fucking sun to see a picture of Archie. 196 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: And it's safe to say that Buckingham Palace, we're not 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: really aware that this Instagram post was going to go out, 198 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: or so they would lead us to believe. Can you 199 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: imagine the Queen's face seeing that? I mean one. I 200 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know if she actually has Instagram, so someone probably 201 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: had to tell her. But can you do you think 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: they have fake profiles? Well, Harry and Megan, not the Queen, 203 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: but like other royals, I was sure they'd be private, 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: and they have like five follows. Why why is Beatrice 205 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: lad half one? She's She's one of the only royals 206 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: with her own instrucause I think it's only the senior 207 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: royals that have to adhere. Maybe. Yeah, So the Buckingham 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Palace put out this pretty controversial statement. It was one line. 209 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: It said, we understand their desire to take a different approach, 210 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: but these are complicated issues that will take time to 211 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: work through. So basically the rest of the royals are 212 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: pissed off about From what I heard, Prince William was 213 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: enraged because he can't. I mean, he could do what 214 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Prince Harry has done, but there'd be so much more 215 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: backlash where it kind of seemed like Harry, which is 216 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I think why everyone loves him, kind of sets his 217 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: own tone. And we've got to remember Harry is sixth 218 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: in line to the throne. I mean, and we've also remember, 219 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: as you said, Prince William could do this, but as 220 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. Does everyone remember what happened 221 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: with King Edward and Wallace Simpson. This is history repeating itself. 222 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: That was pretty embarrassing. There was a Sunrise Live cross 223 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: to some sort of royal expert in Australia and she 224 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: was like, this is the first time we're ever seeing 225 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: anything like this happen. Yeah, I saw that Sunrise cross. 226 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh my gosh. 227 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I went to look at the comments to see if 228 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: anybody else had noticed. So, for those who don't know, 229 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: years ago, Prince Edward ended up falling in love with 230 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: an American actress who was also a divorce a like 231 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Megan Mircale, and he ended up having to abdicate the 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: throne in order to marry her. So that's when Queen 233 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Elizabeth's dad actually became the king. So if he'd never 234 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: abdicated and fell in love with this American actress, we 235 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: would never have the queen is there we have now? 236 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: We never have Prince Harry. We never had this issue 237 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: that we're having. How ironic is it, though, that it's 238 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: another American actress divorce as it's very scandious. She never 239 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: heard the word diverse divorce are used so often. We 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: should probably talk about what motivated their decision because it 241 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: does run parallel to their media policy on their website. 242 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: So it appears they were motivated because of the disgusting 243 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: treatment that they received from the UK press. You might 244 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: remember a couple of months ago we did a podcast 245 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: where we dissected Harry's statement regarding his wife's treatment from 246 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: the British media. In the letter, Harry drew parallel to 247 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: the press's treatment of Meghan, Michael and his mother, Princess Diana, who, 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: of course everyone will know, tragically died in a car 249 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: accident when she was trying to escape from the paparazzi. 250 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: So he claimed that Meghan was being targeted by the 251 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: British press. He said he would be taking legal action 252 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: against the publication for running a smear campaign against his wife. 253 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Now I find this found this quite interesting. I didn't 254 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: realize all of the ridiculous claims the British press have 255 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: made about Meghan, So were you guys aware of this? 256 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: So during a charity book tour for the victims of 257 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Grenfell Tower, the Telegraph somehow linked the Duchess to supporting terrorism. 258 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: Later The Daily Mail reported that Meghan's consumption of avocado 259 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: was fueling human rights abuse, draup and murder, and then 260 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: The Express published an article with the headline claiming that 261 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Harry was miserable because she was such a difficult person 262 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: to deal with. That's so disgusting. I also have been 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: seeing a few screenshots of different articles pop up, and 264 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: the different media coverage surrounding Kate Middleton and Meghan Markel 265 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: has been astounding. Kate has been painted in an angelic way. 266 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: For instance, there was an article which showed how the 267 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: press was saying how gorgeous it was that Kate Middleton 268 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: was holding a baby bump, and then the next article 269 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: by the same publication was slamming Meghan Markle as being, 270 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, so needy and attention seeking by holding her 271 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: baby bump. It's quite concerning the difference, and it makes 272 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: you think, what is the reason. Why Is it because 273 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: you need to have Kate Middleton be this angelic figure 274 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: because she will one day been you know? Is it 275 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: because Meghan Markle is wack? Do you not think that 276 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: it might be encouraged by the fact that the Royal 277 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: Rot which is publishing a lot of these things that 278 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: it's been pushed by the Royal family. There was a 279 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: really interesting opinion piece on news dot com and it 280 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: was talking about why Kate Middleton is really the biggest 281 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: loser out of the royal split, and people may not 282 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: know that the announcement actually came on her thirty eighth birthday, 283 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: which was very much overshadowed by this announcement, and on 284 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: her birthday she was photographed driving into Kensington Palace wearing 285 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: a very unregal puffer jacket and she just looked really 286 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: upset and pissed off in the photo. Many people are 287 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: reflecting on the fact that it might mean a lot 288 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: of extra work for Kate Middleton. But what this opinion 289 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: piece was saying that the most the worst that's to 290 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: come from it is the women are already being pitted 291 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: against each other, you know, but until now they were 292 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: very much on equal footing. Both are in their thirties, 293 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: both of moms, both are obviously gorgeous looking. Now the 294 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: fact that Megan has stepped out on her it's going 295 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: to make things even more difficult because she you think 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: about it, Meghan has now has the freedoms to be 297 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: able to speak at any sort of international conference that 298 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: she wants to. She can actually talk about politics, she 299 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: can wear whatever she likes without being I don't know 300 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: if that's a bad thing for Kate Middleton on equal 301 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: footings And if anything, I feel like Kate Middleton, as 302 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: we said, is going to be the golden child now 303 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: and every negative article is going to be about Meghan. 304 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, Meghan Michael is going 305 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: to be able to speak at World Economic forums at 306 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the un She's going to actually have put her mark 307 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: on the world while also being but everyone's going to 308 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: be tearing her down. Plus, I don't think they were 309 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: on equal footings. Meghani Mirkal was thirty six when she 310 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: joined the royal family. She had a full life, she 311 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: was a you know, an actress, she had it, lived 312 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: a completely different background. I mean Kate Middleton was put 313 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: into the same university as William Just to me, well, 314 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: they say they're on equal footings, is in because at 315 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that point in time they both were living very similar 316 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: lives once they got into the royal family. Kate and 317 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: I were actually having quite an interesting conversation today when 318 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: we were preparing for this podcast, and we were discussing 319 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: the fact that it seems like Kate Middleton has had 320 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot more time to get I suppose this royal 321 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: thing right, and the fact that she's married Prince William, 322 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I suppose expectations have been completely different on her because 323 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: she is in line to be the queen, her kids 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: are going to be the You know, does she become 325 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the queen or a princess? Because I'm not sure actually 326 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: will I believe she does become the queen? In going 327 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: back back? Can't just finished my point. The thing is, 328 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: as you said, Meghan Markle has lived thirty six years 329 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: as what he described as a commoner. She's been famous, 330 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: she's had Instagram accounts, She's done everything. So it seems 331 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: like her life so far hasn't been building up to 332 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: be a royal. What I find particularly interesting about this 333 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: whole thing, which I we've touched on before, is the 334 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: fact that they went through Instagram and didn't tell the Queen. 335 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people, a lot of 336 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: the opinion piece out there saying that they're pissed off 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: that they think that they disrespected the Queen and Prince 338 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: William and Prince Charles for not telling them first. But 339 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: I actually don't think that they had the opportunity to 340 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: do that. I think that these news organizations are part 341 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: of this royal rota, are so in with some of 342 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: the family that they dictate what is going to be said. So, 343 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, we've had the Prince Andrew scandal, and a 344 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of the time there's been a lot of conversations 345 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: around the fact that Meghan mark was being used as distraction. 346 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, there was rumors around Prince William and cheating 347 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: on Kate. Obviously, this Prince Andrew thing again. And it 348 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: seems like the common thing coming out of all the 349 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: publications to do with this royal rota is the fact 350 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: that Meghan's a bitch? Is anyone else just sick of 351 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: the way this narrative always plays out. I mean, people 352 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: are comparing Meghan Markel to Yoko Ono except even worse. 353 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: And what I find perplexing is the fact why is 354 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: it always the woman? Why is that Meghan market? Obviously 355 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Prince Harry has had some say in this. He's always 356 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: been the royal that's been a bit rogue. He always 357 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: does his own thing. Why does everybody care so much? 358 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Why can't they go and live their lives? I honestly 359 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: think it's because the British people think that they own 360 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the Royals. There's all this backlash, Oh we paink for 361 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: the renovation near Kernage's shut up, you don't fucking own them. 362 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Why do we not think that Harry wants to leave 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: on his own accord. He has gone through a dreadful 364 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: childhood of having his mother hounded by the press and 365 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: then practically killed because of their constant harassment. But the 366 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: thing is they're not saying they they're not going to 367 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: be a part of anything to do with the Royal Family. 368 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Their statement, I thought was quite respectful. They're just saying 369 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: they don't want to be paid anymore by the Royal Family. 370 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: And obviously if you're getting a wage or whatever it 371 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: is from the Royal family, they own you and they 372 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: tell you what you need to do. They're saying, we 373 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: want to stand at our own feet, we want to 374 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: do our own thing, we want to talk to whatever 375 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: media we want to talk to and push our own agendas. 376 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: And it's quite interesting because it seems like there's a 377 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: lot that they know about the Royal Family that they 378 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: may potentially or be rumored to be threatening if they 379 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: if the Royal found they're going to make this exit messy. 380 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: What seems to be at the brunt of this backclash 381 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: is the fact that people think Harry and Meghan are 382 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: having their cake and eating it too. People are pissed 383 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: off that they think their money is going towards the 384 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: funding of their extravagant lifestyle, but in actual fact, it's 385 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: only five percent of the Sovereign grant, which is the 386 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: taxpayers money that goes towards the Royal family that is 387 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: actually funding them. So to dumb this down, they're only 388 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: getting five percent of taxpayers money. But what is quite interesting, 389 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: which you were telling me about before, is that the 390 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: rest of their ninety five percent paycheck is made up 391 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: by money from Prince Charles, which is also causing a 392 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: bit of controversy. Yeah, so ninety five percent of the 393 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: income is coming from Prince Charles who owns the Duchy 394 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: of Cornwell, which is a portfolio of agricultural investments, and 395 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: that is where the money for Prince Harry and then 396 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: also Prince William comes from. But I'm guessing a lot 397 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: of people are saying, well, that's bullshit, because he's making 398 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: all of this money off being a Royal family member. Anyway. 399 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: But isn't that just irrelevant because there's so many people 400 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: out there that get money from their parents. It's not 401 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: irrelevant because at the end of the day, people want 402 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: to have access to the royal family and they feel 403 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: that they are paying for the Royal family to have 404 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: this lifestyle. So the whole argument is, well, what, they 405 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: can't be fucked to go and open these shelters and 406 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: dood the boring parts of it, but they'll take the 407 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: good parts with it. I don't know if that's at 408 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: all true. I think the reason that they're leaving is 409 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: because of the disgusting press coverage. I think they're also 410 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: leaving because Meghan grew up. I'm not saying that's the 411 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: reason they're leaving. I'm saying that's the reason people are 412 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: pissed off. What has been feeling at my feet at 413 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: the moment is the amount of money people are speculating 414 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are set to make when 415 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: they do venture to North America. It's already been announced 416 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: that Meghan Markle is going to be voicing a character 417 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: for a Disney movie, and apparently this was actually organized 418 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: while she was still part a senior member of the 419 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: royal family. It will be very interesting to see how 420 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: much money they do make off talks. There have been 421 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: mentions that they're going to make six seven, eight figure 422 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: amount of these talks. You know what. I feel like 423 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: everyone's getting so obsessed with the money side of things. 424 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I do not think they're doing this for the money. 425 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel like if they just wanted to sit on 426 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: their asses and have a cozy and have an easy lifestyle, 427 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: they would continue to be a part of the rule. 428 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: I suppose the whole money thing comes because the fact 429 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: that they said that they want to be financially independent. 430 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I think they were saying that they wanted to be 431 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: financially independent, so people would actually like that, because they're saying, 432 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: we don't want the money. We just want to go 433 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and do our own thing. I don't want that speculation, 434 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to have to abide by all this 435 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: bullshit rules. We don't want to talk to this bullshit 436 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: media who were hacking our phones allegedly and doing all 437 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: this bullshit. Now that I think people are just focusing 438 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: on the money to be negative and to tell can 439 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: I ask you, do you think that taxpayer money should 440 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: pay for their security? Then I don't see an issue 441 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: with it because Harry has been born into this situation. 442 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: He didn't ask to be Prince Harry. The argument could 443 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: be should they protect Meghan because she knew what she 444 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: was getting into, But at the end of the day, 445 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: Prince Harry didn't ask for this. He can't help who 446 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: he falls in love with. He is sixth in line, 447 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: so yes, for all the bullshit he's had to put 448 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: up with, I don't understand why they can't pay for 449 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: his security. Now, moving away from the money, the thing 450 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: that has captivated me the most with this announcement is 451 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: the fact that Megan Michael has shown girls and women 452 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: all around the world that there is so much more 453 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: than just dreaming about becoming a princess. Elle magazine wrote 454 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: this amazing piece and they spoke about how, you know, 455 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Meghan grew up in a time when being a princess 456 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: was everything, and she basically had what every girl wanted 457 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: to be part of the British royal family, and that 458 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: she achieved this dream in front of so many people, 459 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: Yet she decided last week for her that that wasn't 460 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: enough for her. There was so much more to life 461 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: than just living this lifestyle. I think Princess Diana showed 462 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: being a role isn't all it's cracked up to be. 463 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: I do like the whole and allergy that she's rewriting 464 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: the fairy tale because I think I don't know it. Actually, 465 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: even though I said I was shocked initially, it doesn't 466 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: really surprise me thinking about it now, because if you 467 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: look into the you know, if you look into Meghan 468 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: Markle's life, she's always been a pioneer. She's always sort 469 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: of fought for women's rights and being a princess that 470 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: doesn't really fit in with me. It's basically what Princess 471 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Diana did. Obviously she got divorced from Prince Charles, but 472 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: she didn't have to divorce him. She could have stayed 473 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: unhappily married for many years. So I think Harry really 474 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: is following in Diana's footsteps. So I think that's why everyone, 475 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: most people, most sane people, young people think it's fantastic. 476 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I think when Meghan Markle was first introduced to us 477 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: as Harry's new partner, there was this strong hope that 478 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: she would become the next people's princess because, similarly to Diana, 479 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: she's obviously very intelligent. She has feminist principles, but I 480 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: feel like she's done so much more by making this move, 481 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: because she showed us that you don't have to be 482 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: this perfect princess and that maybe our princess dreams of 483 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: being mispoortous. She is the modern day princess because these 484 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: days women want to say what they want and do 485 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: what they want. So she's exactly doing well. She's showing 486 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: that you don't have to speak, you don't have to 487 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: compromise yourself because there's a stronger there's stronger forces that 488 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: are trying to bring you down. Do you know what though, 489 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: if you look at Princess Diana, she only became the 490 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: people's princess when she separated from Charles. That's when she 491 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: started dropping all the bombs. That's when she did that 492 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: explosive interview where she revealed all of the dirty secrets 493 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: that were going on about Charles's affair, that she threw 494 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: herself down the stairs, that she had on Erexit. Also, 495 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: her charity endeavors too, which is what Harry and Meghan 496 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: a big part of why they want to break away. 497 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: They want to do that, they want to back the 498 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: charity that they chew. Well, that's what I was going 499 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: to say. I mean, when she was separated from the 500 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: royal family, that's when she could start doing all of 501 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: those amazing charitable things. So perhaps we are going to 502 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: see Megan Mirkl become the people's princess when she's away 503 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: from the royal family and she's able to do what 504 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: she wants to do. It is quite interesting to consider 505 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: why people are so against them doing things a little differently. 506 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, exactly what is going to be gained by 507 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: forcing a young couple to remain entrenched in a situation 508 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: that isn't working for them anymore. Yeah, well, we will 509 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: finally find out what the go actually is with this 510 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: because today in Britain the Sandringham Summit is being held, 511 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: so basically it's the big crisis meeting between the family. 512 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: The Queen has called in Prince Harry, Prince William and 513 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Prince Charles, and Meghan is actually going to be on 514 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the phone, which would be interesting because she's back in 515 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: Canada with Master Archie. I heard she caught a budget fly. 516 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: She sneaked back back to Canada, So no Royal jets 517 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but that was pretty cool. Yeah, well, 518 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: so can you imagine the shade on the flone. Yeah, 519 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I would joined us on the phone. I'd love to 520 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall. What seems like the 521 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Queen is pretty content on making the fallout as minimal 522 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: as possible, even though I don't think that's possible. I'd 523 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: be really interested from a pr perspective to see them 524 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: what the hours that they're clocking up trying to solve 525 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: this so it comes out in the best interests of 526 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: the royal family. What is going to be really interesting 527 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: to see is the resolution of this conversation, because a 528 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: journalist of the name Tom Bradbury has actually come out. 529 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: He's close to the family and he's warned that things 530 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: might not be that great for the royal family if 531 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: it isn't resolved with Harry and Meghan basically set to 532 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: dish the dirt. Yeah, from what they're reporting, there may 533 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: be a new royal scandal if things don't go their way, 534 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: because they're threatening to dish dirt on stuff that's gone 535 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: on in the royal family, including racial slurs, sexist comments, 536 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So I don't think they're threatening 537 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: to dish the dirt, but they're basically going to dish 538 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: the dirt if it's out their bargaining tool. Perhaps, Yes, 539 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: I think it is because in the popularity polls at 540 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: the moment, all of those the Queen and Prince Harry 541 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: and Prince Charles are pretty high up there, just like them. 542 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: But I think that their popularity may plummet down once 543 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: this dirt is dished. Yeah, so I can't wait for 544 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the outcome of this crisis. Talk moving on to our 545 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: new segment, and it is the Pit and Peak of 546 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: social Media. This week we will be looking at what 547 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: are some of our favorite moments that have happened this 548 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: week and what are some of the most controversial. Now 549 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: kicking us off cake, can you tell us about the 550 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: peak of the week that involved a friend of the podcast, 551 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Sam Magnan. I loved this post. It was an Instagram 552 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: story of the legend Sam Magnan, who is a pr 553 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: god put up. He has his own podcasting. He's pretty 554 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: loud and proud about the fact that he doesn't give 555 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: in to uber driver's demands to meet them on the street. Instead, 556 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: he actually makes the meet at the front door. So 557 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: he had a screenshot from a conversation he'd had with 558 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: an uber Eats delivery person. The person said I'm out 559 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: the front, and he said, I'm at my door. I 560 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: just found that so funny. I have great respect for 561 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: that because they do try to pressure you into kind 562 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: of meeting them halfway, and it's like, I'm paying for 563 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: this delivery, So could you actually do your job? I 564 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: always crumble and go outside to meet them. And Amy, 565 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: would you like to tell us about the pit of 566 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: the week, Well, the most embarrassing, Well, the pit of 567 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: the week is a US Bachelor contestant who actually feel 568 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: a bit sorry for her because it's so embarrassed. So 569 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: she's on the latest series and she's got her Instagram 570 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: account set up and basically she went to write a 571 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: comment under her post in a fake name, but was 572 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: logged into her own accounts. So it seems that she's 573 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: been commenting how great she is under pictures of herself. Yeah, 574 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: it was a comment about how real she was, Yeah, 575 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: You're so real, except it was her own official account 576 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: commenting how real she was on her own photo. She's 577 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: copped a lot of shit online, but her friend who 578 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: runs her was apparently running her account while she was 579 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: in lockdown, has said that she actually went to write 580 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: the comment in a fan page or something, and that's 581 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: how it's happened. Have you guys ever done that before, 582 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: as in, maybe not to the extent of having fake 583 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Instagram accounts, but where you've text message, you've sent a 584 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: text to somebody that you didn't mean to or all 585 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: the time. That's a worse feeling. Oh I did it. 586 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: At school. There was this girl who were kind of 587 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: friends with and she would constantly bludge off school and 588 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: it was probably the fifth day she'd bludge because she 589 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: had a sore arm has a bit over it by then. 590 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Let's just say I remember her saw it was sore 591 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: because she walked and it brushed against the site of 592 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: a wall. That's goool, And then she'd have to wrestling anyway, hypochondria. 593 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: And I text her being like I thought. I was 594 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: texting mom, like can you believe this girl has been 595 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: away again? I can't believe it. And then I had 596 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: to play it off like I was like, oh, I'm 597 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: saying I just can't believe you're on well again. She 598 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: didn't know we weren't friends. Shortly after that, Now, moving 599 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: on to our next topic. On Friday, model and fitness 600 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: influencer Steph Claire Smith stepped out to celebrate her twenty 601 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: sixth birthday with a romantic dinner with husband Josh. The 602 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: newlyweds shared the evening with their combined one point six 603 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: million followers on Instagram. Later that night, thieves stole Josh's 604 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: Blackoudi straight out of their garage. Just five months earlier, 605 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the influences were victims of a smash and grab when 606 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: their passports were stolen while dining with friends. Now there 607 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: has been a lot of taught that social media could 608 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: potentially have played a big part in this, So if 609 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on all of it? It was really 610 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: interesting to watch this whole incident unfold on social media. 611 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Social media was used in several ways. Firstly, it was 612 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: really interesting to note that before this robbery happened, they 613 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: were very much posting about their whereabouts and actions that 614 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: night because, as you mentioned previously, it was Steph Klea 615 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: Smith's birthday, so they were out at a very fancy restaurant. 616 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: The robbery actually happened at two thirty in the morning. 617 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: So my initial gut feeling, and I'm obviously not a 618 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: police officer here, but because these robbers would have known 619 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: that Steph and Josh were out, they had time to 620 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: scope out the building, They had time to work out 621 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: where they could enter the garage to steal the car. 622 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: It was. Is that what you guys gauged from the 623 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: incident online? Well, I think it's a warning to influences 624 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: all around the world. They just have to be so careful. 625 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, remember when Kim Kardashian was held at gunpoint. 626 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: I know that incident changed her social media behavior. She 627 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: no longer posts her Insta stories when they're happening, so 628 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: she'll save them and then upload them later. Did anyone 629 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: notice that the fact that Josh's car had his registration 630 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it was Jane Miller as well. It's a pretty identifiable AUDI. 631 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: You don't see too many of them. Well, you do 632 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: see a lot of beautiful cars in Melbourne. But the 633 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: faight that had those normal plates, Well, Steph was saying 634 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: online that the robbers may have obviously removed the plates 635 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: to get away with this. What is quite startling though, 636 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: is in August last year, Steph made headlines with mainstream 637 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: media because she put an emotional plea on Instagram when 638 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: she had her passport stolen. So they were also out 639 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: at dinner in August with some friends and Josh's backpack 640 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: was in one of the friends cars and there was 641 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: a smash and grab incident where robbers took this bag out. 642 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think it's something that 643 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: they're wanting to get from Stephan Josh because in Josh's 644 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: message on Instagram, he did say that there were items 645 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: in the car that were very important. He didn't really 646 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: go into it, but it seems very targeted. Yeah, I 647 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: definitely think it's targeted, and I think social media was 648 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: used at it as a tool to know their whereabouts 649 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: and how to sneak into their house. It's actually quite 650 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: timely because people who listen to this podcast will know. 651 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Facebook Marketplace and ive just 652 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: been selling my absolute shit online and I was thinking 653 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: the other day about Facebook Marketplace and could that potentially 654 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: be a tool to rob people? Because no one was 655 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: anything good on there though, No, but to know when 656 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: people are going to be home, because I had some 657 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: person say they were going to go, oh, can I 658 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: come over now? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you can 659 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: come over. They never came. I asked them so many times, 660 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: are you coming over? Blah blah and never responded and 661 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: then messaged me, Willy Nelly, are you home? And I 662 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: actually wasn't home, and I thought, did you give them 663 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: your address? Yeah, and they'd already had my address. I 664 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to say I'm not at 665 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: home because they might come and rob me. So when 666 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I heard this news about Steph and Josh, I was like, Ooh, 667 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: the weird thing is that they chose to rob them 668 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: when they were at home. I felt so sorry for Steph. 669 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: She was putting up some emotional Instagram stories about how 670 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: upset she was, and this was all while she was 671 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: trying to celebrate her twenty sixth birthday. I was actually 672 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: fearful though, that she might get some backlash because she was, 673 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, being pretty honest about how upset she was. 674 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I was like, God, I hope with all the bushfires 675 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: going on and people have been dickheads, that no one 676 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: was gonna tell her off for being upset because this 677 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: is a legitimate reason to be upset. Well, let's let's 678 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: be honest. Regardless of whether she's right or wrong, there's 679 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: always going to be someone on social media who has 680 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: a problem with it. No one's ever happy on social media. 681 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: It is becoming quite a problem. Obviously, social media is 682 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: becoming more prominent and people are using it in the 683 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: everyday lives, and police said that over the past two years, 684 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: there's been two dozen celebrity burglaries across Los Angeles. So 685 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: people like Kelly Clark's and Hillary Duff, Scott Disick, even 686 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner are just some of the celebrities that have 687 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: experienced break ins. And what is most disturbing is that 688 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the majority of these celebrities houses were broken into after 689 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: they've made posts online about their whereabouts. It's all the 690 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: instera stories, isn't it. Because a Whitney post a picture, 691 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: it could have been anytime. But it's the fact that 692 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: insta stories keep you up to date with what people 693 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: are doing. You know exactly where they are. The instant 694 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: nature is what's putting them at risk. Well it's even 695 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: Twitter because Rhianna she put up on Twitter that she 696 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: was at an event in Dubai and that evening her 697 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: house was burgled. So it is quite scary. All the 698 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: different platforms they've got. Shul think they've got security though 699 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: when they're away, well that's the scary thing. I think 700 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: with like Steph Claire Smith, who you wouldn't say is 701 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: on the level of Rhianna or the Kardashians. It's kind 702 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: of scary for her because she doesn't have personal security 703 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: following her around. She's a big star in her own 704 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: right due to social media, and you know, all these 705 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: influences have a lot of expensive things don't seem to 706 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: have the security to actually protect them. But it's even 707 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: for non celebrities. If you're posting a lot on social 708 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: media about being out and or you're on holiday and 709 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: people know where you live, that your house then becomes 710 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: a target. So it's kind of a bit concerning because 711 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: it makes you think, well, how do I use social media? 712 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Do I not post in the stories when I'm out? 713 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: Do I not give my address to people on Facebook, Marketplace? 714 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Or you know what I mean. I think this incident 715 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: does show that we should all be a little bit 716 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: more careful and put a bit more thought into when 717 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: we are sharing. As you say, and now we're moving 718 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: on to our new segment, which is called Who's on 719 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Our Feed? And this is where we're going to detail 720 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: some of our favorite influences of the week. Sophie, I 721 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised to hear your new favorite, but 722 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: then after watching her content, I'm also sold. Tell us 723 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: about your YouTuber of the week. We might be surprising 724 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: to some, but her name is Anastasia kings North and 725 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: she is a nineteen year old British girl who I 726 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: have literally become obsessed with watching her YouTube. So if 727 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: just likes her because she says taco likes how taco 728 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: to taco? Yeah, there's been an on running debate of 729 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: the pronunciation of some of the Mexican foods. Anyway, she 730 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: has some incredible content and what I'm liking about her 731 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: is she is incredibly consistent, incredible. She's incredible, incredibly consistent. 732 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: She's also not afraid to share, which I think what 733 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: a lot about Australian influencers are lacking at the moment. 734 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: She shares everything. I think they share until they get 735 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: too big and then they don't want to share anymore. 736 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: But she does cool videos like I've only eaten pink 737 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: food for today, Here's my mac Donald's mukbun Like Taco 738 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Bell and Bunk, She's just constantly pumping out content, whereas 739 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's not just vlogs. They actually all have 740 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: a theme. Well, what is interesting is she has her 741 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: black her back vlog channel, so that's where she will 742 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: share her vlogs that people like to keep up with her. 743 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: But then she will have her main channel where it's 744 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: actually curated content. And the one that caught my attention 745 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: this week was her say it or Shot It challenge 746 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: with her mother. Now, her poor mother has copped a 747 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of backlash from some of her followers. She's been 748 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: criticized for having weird eyebrows. Go check it out, make 749 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: kept your own mind. Whether you like the idea weird, 750 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: they're a bit weird. I love the mom. It's funny. Well, 751 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: I think it's first best to preface it with the 752 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: say it or Shot it. They have to ask each 753 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: other really awkward questions and if they don't want to 754 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: answer the question, they have to take a shot. And 755 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: some of the questions that Anna Stage asked her mom 756 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: were hilarious and she answered them. They were pretty brave 757 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: to share it with one another and also online. The 758 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: funniest was the mother sharing her Tinder experience. It was 759 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: so cringe. Now. These messages consisted of her sharing the 760 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: fact that she hasn't had sex in six years. It 761 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: was her cringe comments back and forth to the guy. 762 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: Everyone has to go and check it out. It was hilarious. 763 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: The conversation just went on and on like they just 764 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: continue to read it out and it just got juicier 765 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: and juicier. And these were messages on Christmas Day as well, 766 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: even though the mum denied messaging this guy from Tinder 767 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. Now, I have seen this say it 768 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: or Shot It challenge around YouTube a lot, and the 769 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: thing that has frustrated me with a number of the 770 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: influencers is the fact that they have all been asked 771 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: the question, tell us your highest pain campaign on social 772 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: media or shot it? And I'm appalled that none of 773 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: them have answered because one, it pisses me off more 774 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: because it makes it seem like they must earn a 775 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: disgusting amount of money. Yeah, it was just the arrogance, 776 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: no way, And these are like load level influencers that 777 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: are promoting like men shavers who are females. Just as 778 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: a clue, we have decided ourselves though, we've been so 779 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: inspired by this say it or Shot It challenge that 780 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: we want to do it ourselves. So if anyone has 781 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: any juicy questions, I don't even think. I mean, people 782 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: can send some in, but I think that we just 783 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: have to come up with them for each other. Because 784 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: I've got a few juicy ones I can already think 785 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: of throwing in. We'll do a bit of both. If 786 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: someone does have a question they think would be quite 787 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: embarrassing or controversial, please send it in. And I think 788 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so 789 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 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