Speaker 1: Hey, Legends, welcome back to the Mason Cock Show. We've
Speaker 1: got a big episode today. We talked about the big winners, Yes,
Speaker 1: Brisbane is back, baby, Brizzie's back, Yes, and then we
Speaker 1: talk about the big losers, how about Melbourne, whether or
Speaker 1: not they had a tough game where North Melbourne's just
Speaker 1: that good. And then we also get into a bit
Speaker 1: of what's happened in the bye week and whateveryone's been
Speaker 1: up to, what I've been up to in Balie, and
Speaker 1: then we talk about clangers. There's a few good ones
Speaker 1: in this episode, so listen in. It's gonna be an
Speaker 1: epic one. We're gonna start it right now. Our legend
Speaker 1: has been a bit of a break. Apologies, I will
Speaker 1: take full ownership of that. I've had a bit of
Speaker 1: a Balie holiday and a concussion a few other things.
Speaker 1: It's been a bit of a bit of a mixed back.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna get straight into this one. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to cover, so without further ado, Braden, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Pollen Well.
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin the podcast off the top,
Speaker 2: but I'm glad that you're back to I guess review
Speaker 2: one of the most boring weeks football history. Let's have
Speaker 2: a few blowouts. Oh my god, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the hell that was it, But let's get into it
Speaker 2: because we have some fifty one hundred point blowouts to review.
Speaker 2: But I want to give my clanger of the week.
Speaker 2: We'll jump straight into that. Focus on the negatives here
Speaker 2: on this podcast. Geez, that's what we like to do,
Speaker 2: just bring it all back down to negatives. And I
Speaker 2: want to give it. Maybe someone can tell me who
Speaker 2: I'm giving this to, because I reckon there was no
Speaker 2: winners in my clanger. There's a bit of umpire, a
Speaker 2: bit of player. We'll put it out there. So Stephen May,
Speaker 2: he's been fined for well, Steve's staging. Yeah, you got
Speaker 2: fine for staging, which is a real kick in the
Speaker 2: balls when you get in fined for that. He could
Speaker 2: have bought a seventy five incher for what he got fined.
Speaker 2: But I'll talk you through it. If you did miss
Speaker 2: it over in there and the bar, he didn't get reception,
Speaker 2: but he got tackled by Eddie Ford. So let's have
Speaker 2: a quick guess at the scales. I'd say Stephen May
Speaker 2: is weighing in ad probably about one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten big fella and Eddie Ford. He with sideburns.
Speaker 2: I reckon he'd be sixty kilos, but without him he's
Speaker 2: probably fifty five kilos. Ringing wet. He tackles Stephen May.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know what he's expected to do, because
Speaker 2: it was reminiscent of Chuka day Is going to the
Speaker 2: old rodeos and seeing the little feller up there on
Speaker 2: the big ball he's riding as he's bucking and bumping
Speaker 2: him off. It does a three sixty seven twenty. I
Speaker 2: thought that's a free kick. Ten eighty, no whistle? What
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 1: Where the rules changed again? While I was gone?
Speaker 2: They on smokers Because I didn't know what the hell
Speaker 2: was going on. He's still on his back for a
Speaker 2: ten eighty. Takes him to ground because what else is
Speaker 2: he going to do? His feet aren't on the ground,
Speaker 2: so he can't. He's not really in control of what
Speaker 2: the hell's going on. He goes right, wait on, we're
Speaker 2: still about twenty seconds away from an umpire to decision.
Speaker 2: They both land on the ground. Replay shows that Stephen
Speaker 2: May's head does not hit the ground here, but he
Speaker 2: starts holding his head like he's can cast, which is
Speaker 2: that's disingenuous. So I won't blame him though, because when
Speaker 2: the whole rule is set up for players to take
Speaker 2: advantage of it, who are we going to blame here?
Speaker 2: Are we blaming the system or are we blaming the players?
Speaker 2: Don't hate the player, hate the game, they say. Now
Speaker 2: they're laying on the ground long enough spooning that I
Speaker 2: start to think they're a couple. But we're waiting on
Speaker 2: this whistle. Whistle comes, everyone's like, oh there is an
Speaker 2: umpire today. Turn around, he's like, ah, I'll give that
Speaker 2: dangerous tackle and they're like, oh, sick mate, thanks. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been dangerous if you had a blown the
Speaker 2: bloody whistle two spins ago. But here we are, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not the you figure the dangerous tackler would have
Speaker 2: got the sanction, but no, Eddie Ford, he's an innocent
Speaker 2: bystander in all of this. And Stephen May gets sanctioned
Speaker 2: for the you know, faking the head injury, which we
Speaker 2: don't want because I get the part where it's we
Speaker 2: don't want players to get head injuries, so we don't
Speaker 2: want them faking that they do have head injuries. So
Speaker 2: Stephen Maye, don't be doing that, but that everyone involved
Speaker 2: in that, I'm giving them the clangu.
Speaker 1: There's to full spill the whole thing. You've come hot
Speaker 1: firing shots fired from the beginning of this podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, when your life is shit, Mace, you just want
Speaker 2: to sit down and watch some games of footy over
Speaker 2: the weekend and get a little bit of bloody joy
Speaker 2: in your life. And I have to watch that shit.
Speaker 2: Look at that one hundred and thirty eight or seventy five,
Speaker 2: seventy three to one hundred and fifty two.
Speaker 1: We're going to get into the rest of the game spreading.
Speaker 2: But there's interesting one from the week.
Speaker 1: Look, if I'm Stephen may Like as a player, right,
Speaker 1: you're trying to save as much money. The AFL kind
Speaker 1: of screws you over on these things pretty quickly, and
Speaker 1: that's just part of the process.
Speaker 2: You're taking that challenge.
Speaker 1: This is the thing, like Stephen, just be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like I twinged a nerve in my back
Speaker 1: by my neck. You know, there's like there's a million
Speaker 1: excuses you could go with. I feel like that the
Speaker 1: AFL can't really provide any real reason as to them
Speaker 1: being like Oh, well, if that's the case, then we're
Speaker 1: still going to find you like that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Not in his body, and I would just go, oh,
Speaker 2: I did a ten eighty. I was dizzy, so I
Speaker 2: was holding my head trying to get focused.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if I'm Stephen, may I take that
Speaker 1: to this drubunal. That's all I mean. You can think
Speaker 1: of a million excuses to get through that easy. Are
Speaker 1: we going to myke cleaner of the week now? WS
Speaker 1: is a famous goal kicker, you could say, name Jesse
Speaker 1: Hogan who does a lot of the goal kicking. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Now it gets a bit of a free kick and
Speaker 1: he's having to take the shot from essentially the boundary right,
Speaker 1: And that's what everyone practices whenever you go out there.
Speaker 1: You want to get the nice, silky, smooth, you know,
Speaker 1: skillful around the corner, rather than practicing the ninety percent
Speaker 1: chances of you getting a set shot in front right.
Speaker 1: Who cares about that? You know, practice how you play,
Speaker 1: You practice the one percenters. And this is one of
Speaker 1: those times that that one percenter does come in handy
Speaker 1: because he's on the bound and the umpire is looking
Speaker 1: at him and he's, you know, as you do, you
Speaker 1: kind of try to gain a meter or two, get
Speaker 1: a bit of you know, a bit of the angle,
Speaker 1: and the umpire keeps telling him to essentially move to
Speaker 1: the parking lot, trying to figure out how to banda
Speaker 1: this one from outside the stadium back around somehow gets
Speaker 1: some win three sixty kick the ball and then come
Speaker 1: back on it. And he literally at one point tells
Speaker 1: him behind the post, so he's essentially telling him to
Speaker 1: kick it from outside of the field to play.
Speaker 2: Which doesn't understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: That's physically possible that he tells him to essentially move
Speaker 1: into the stands to try to kick the ball. But
Speaker 1: it was a classic just comedy of airs. And then
Speaker 1: the next thing you know is he gets nowhere near
Speaker 1: the goals, he actually just hits the belly of the ball.
Speaker 1: It goes across the face of the goals and they
Speaker 1: end up marking it too, so it actually kind of
Speaker 1: maybe worked out for a better angle at goal after
Speaker 1: this whole debucle and spiel. But the clamm gonna go
Speaker 1: with is well one the kick and he was probably
Speaker 1: so frustrated with how the umpire made him kick from
Speaker 1: behind the goals that he just was like stuffed this whatever,
Speaker 1: and then that two's going to be the clanger for
Speaker 1: the umpire, just trying to tell him to essentially kick
Speaker 1: it from the stance at this point because it was
Speaker 1: not even a feasible kick that you could actually make.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Jesse almost tries to take the piss by
Speaker 2: like taking two meters over the boundary, going like you
Speaker 2: want me to kick it from here, and he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the spot.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, just there, stay there. That's it.
Speaker 2: When he said behind the post, how's that the line?
Speaker 2: Because he's like, oh, you've got to be on the line.
Speaker 2: The line's behind the post. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't understand now the mic or the umpire just
Speaker 1: shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just there's sometimes you just go, yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: going to hit the big red dump button.
Speaker 2: Where I reckon this weekend that just came and gone,
Speaker 2: it's a Mulligan weekend. We have that one off. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell that was. Let's have a
Speaker 2: look at some of the results, because we go Carlton
Speaker 2: bashed Geelong in the last quarter port. I don't know,
Speaker 2: at home, they're just not quite there. Got flogged by
Speaker 2: Brisbane GWS Sydney the Battle of the Bridge. It's pretty
Speaker 2: one sided at the moment, with Sydney getting the dub
Speaker 2: Melbourne just knocked off, went home three quarter a time.
Speaker 2: Essenon getting the chocolates over West Coast and they're sticking
Speaker 2: in that top four, which is interesting because a lot
Speaker 2: of us thought they would kind of fall away as
Speaker 2: they go, but they beat West Coast. West Coast did
Speaker 2: try it. They're a competitive team at the moment and
Speaker 2: Freo got the chocolates over Gold Coast in Perth. So
Speaker 2: let's have a look at some of the big questions
Speaker 2: from the week, and I want to ask you some
Speaker 2: of these because we're coming out of a buy. The
Speaker 2: buyers are done. Yeah, we're finished with those buyers, and
Speaker 2: I tell you, for one, I am stoked that they're
Speaker 2: gone because they were just so spread out. Yeah, how
Speaker 2: many you had two buys, didn't you?
Speaker 1: Well, we had the round zero, so then we had
Speaker 1: a buy for that, and then we had our buy
Speaker 1: during the midseason, so we had two buys yet. But
Speaker 1: then I think because we had like Anzac Day fell
Speaker 1: in the middle of the week and stuff. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: you make that buy in there, so you don't have
Speaker 1: like a three or four day or five day break, right. Yea,
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you how the buys rolled out,
Speaker 2: but the buyers in general, should we scrap this whatever
Speaker 2: this was this year? Scrap that? Scrap Probably let's start
Speaker 2: with opening around. Are we scrapping that or are we
Speaker 2: keeping that? Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, I wasn't a massive fan of it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think like after we went all the way to a
Speaker 1: Grand Final playing that and then like having less kind
Speaker 1: of recovery time into it. And I think also the
Speaker 1: people who are playing around zero are usually the teams
Speaker 1: that make finals, yeah, right, because they're trying to pump
Speaker 1: it up to be a big ordeal or like a
Speaker 1: kind of rematch or like some kind of rivalry or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And usually the people who are kind
Speaker 1: of bringing those kind of I guess viewers to TV
Speaker 1: that they're trying to put in that slot are the
Speaker 1: ones that haven't had as much time off since their
Speaker 1: last game, So.
Speaker 2: You get even less prep time as a as someone
Speaker 2: that goes deep into finals, you're already starting late and
Speaker 2: then you start early the next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's it's not ideal, you know,
Speaker 1: like everyone's got their benefits I guess of being a
Speaker 1: Melbourne team or travel or all these kind of things
Speaker 1: that people say there's an unfair advantage of. But that's
Speaker 1: one that's kind of the way I looked at it
Speaker 1: in the way I kind of saw around zero and
Speaker 1: it did allow for I guess, a break, you know,
Speaker 1: four or five weeks into the season for us, a
Speaker 1: little bit longer break. I mean, no one gets enough
Speaker 1: time to go travel anywhere. Really, it's just like an extended,
Speaker 1: like three day break, right, so it's not like a
Speaker 1: massive kind of break like the mid season break. But
Speaker 1: I don't really love the way the buy system is
Speaker 1: set up. It just seems like, I mean, for a
Speaker 1: long time, I feel like everyone was like, oh, Sydney's
Speaker 1: top of the table and they've got a buy still
Speaker 1: still waiting to use, Like they've still got another buy
Speaker 1: this guy. And I'm like, how long is this buy
Speaker 1: going to be put in this pocket? Like is this
Speaker 1: actually going to be used at somewhat? And I just
Speaker 1: have no idea because then you look at the ladder
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh wow, these teams are in the
Speaker 1: top eight. Then you're like, oh, but there are two
Speaker 1: games behind someone else he hasn't played, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: the ladder makes no sense, and then why are we
Speaker 1: even looking at this thing? And so if we all
Speaker 1: have the same buy, or like maybe the two week
Speaker 1: you know, decision between the two buys, then you maybe
Speaker 1: make some sense of what you're looking at. But until
Speaker 1: everyone's back on the same amount of games they've played,
Speaker 1: the ladder makes no sense. And it doesn't matter people like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we won this game. We're top four,
Speaker 1: we're top eight. It's like yeah, but then there's another
Speaker 1: team who is, you know, one game behind playing you.
Speaker 1: If they essentially tire with a game, then they're kicking
Speaker 1: out of the top eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This week, I think we're what fifteen rounds in.
Speaker 2: It's the first week where the ladder is fully up
Speaker 2: to date. Yeah, that's a long time to be waiting
Speaker 2: to see how it's all panning out. And I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I had my ideal by system set up, I'd
Speaker 2: just go the half and half over a two week period,
Speaker 2: half teams off, half teams on, flip it, and then
Speaker 2: we're back into it.
Speaker 1: Well, that what it comes down to is broadcast rights.
Speaker 1: They want a game every single week, right, They want
Speaker 1: to be able to show something on Channel seven and
Speaker 1: like have that as a primetime game. And I get
Speaker 1: that side of it, But also I think even people
Speaker 1: in the industry and stuff would love to have a
Speaker 1: full shot down period of everything, because you think people
Speaker 1: are an AFL house. People are working at Fox Footy
Speaker 1: or Channel seven wherever it is, like even for the
Speaker 1: week that technically is a bye week, like that goes
Speaker 1: over two weeks, so then they don't actually ever have
Speaker 1: a bye week. They're still traveling, you know, Announcers still
Speaker 1: going there, commentators still having to go across the country.
Speaker 1: They don't actually get a break. So I think for
Speaker 1: everyone to sit there and go cool, everyone's having their
Speaker 1: break at this specific week, just that just makes a
Speaker 1: bit more sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it's a long year. I don't
Speaker 2: like the pre finals by from a fan perspective, where
Speaker 2: you just don't get anything to watch or do and
Speaker 2: you have to just wait an extra week for the
Speaker 2: finals to roll around when you're like amped up and
Speaker 2: ready to go. I don't like that. I can see
Speaker 2: the benefits from a player's point of view.
Speaker 1: I think it allows for a better viewing.
Speaker 2: It makes the finals better overall. But I feel like
Speaker 2: something should be in that week. So if that's where
Speaker 2: they slot a wild card round, that would make sense.
Speaker 1: Or you know, put some kind of charity game where
Speaker 1: all the teams that didn't make finals you can recruit
Speaker 1: from all those teams and have that game played in
Speaker 1: the finals by or do a basketball game or something
Speaker 1: of like all the teams that didn't make finals and
Speaker 1: like put together a five y five game or something like.
Speaker 1: The AFL could fill that somehow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's already footy by then, is already weak
Speaker 2: because you've got teams that aren't making it. They've like
Speaker 2: started booking players in for surgeries and stuff like. We
Speaker 2: don't need another warded down, weak ass game. Bring AFL
Speaker 2: X back for a round or something. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I don't need to see that. I don't need to
Speaker 2: see are you not a I don't need to see
Speaker 2: AFL players out there living out there dream of being basketballers.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a deadly gay. YEA.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into the father son rule because people have
Speaker 2: been talking about this in the past. Couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: How many numbers and points do you get trading in
Speaker 2: picks and whatever to get your father's son. It's they're
Speaker 2: trying to dilute it a bit that you know, it's
Speaker 2: pretty obvious. The teams that have issues with it are
Speaker 2: the teams that haven't really been sufficiently rewarded by the
Speaker 2: father son rule. Where I see it is I think it's,
Speaker 2: you know, luck falls your way, like it's pretty even
Speaker 2: for most teams, the teams that I see that. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't be even for other teams that haven't been around
Speaker 2: as long as others. But saying that, I think as
Speaker 2: we take like we strip out things that are very
Speaker 2: unique to our game, like year on year we're stripping
Speaker 2: it back, stripping it back. I feel like father son
Speaker 2: is one of those awesome things that have been in
Speaker 2: footy forever that it's you know, oh, my dad played
Speaker 2: for the club, his dad played for the club, and
Speaker 2: now the fans get right around a father's son coming
Speaker 2: to the club. They're looking forward to it for years.
Speaker 2: They finally get to do the whole thing where it
Speaker 2: runs out. Yeah, every other year you might get a
Speaker 2: Nick Dakos that, you know, if your team's up the
Speaker 2: top of the ladder, So that's another and of luck.
Speaker 2: Your team's at the top of the ladder when a
Speaker 2: father son seems to line up with your club, Like,
Speaker 2: that's all like luck that goes into it. So I
Speaker 2: don't see it as favoring one team over another. And
Speaker 2: then the teams that aren't really benefiting from it at
Speaker 2: the moment are like Sydney like based like GWS or
Speaker 2: Gold Coast. But they've got plenty of things that you
Speaker 2: know they are taking advantage of, like academy wise and
Speaker 2: getting all these jets in they've had all the top
Speaker 2: ten draft picks for the past two decades. Just chill out.
Speaker 2: I feel like the father son is just one of
Speaker 2: those super innocent, awesome, wholesome things that you like, love
Speaker 2: to see the father son stay connected to that club,
Speaker 2: and you still it's so much luck, but so much
Speaker 2: you know, the dad has to play a hundred games
Speaker 2: for that club. There's there's emotional tie to it. And
Speaker 2: our game isn't this robotics stiff as thing. It's there's
Speaker 2: a lot of gray area melded in there. And something
Speaker 2: that's cool is the father son rule. What do you think, master,
Speaker 2: I will say this.
Speaker 1: If you like the father son rule, make the most
Speaker 1: of it while it's around. In ten years time, I
Speaker 1: can almost guarantee you that will not be a thing
Speaker 1: because of competitive advantage. Teams will bitch and one because
Speaker 1: they don't have anyone that's coming up through the system
Speaker 1: that's a father son or whatever, and I'll say it's
Speaker 1: unfair and a disadvantage and all this kind of crap,
Speaker 1: which I always found it interesting, like a father son rule,
Speaker 1: because it is just so unique, right, I've never heard
Speaker 1: of it until I came here. And it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: an advantage it is. It is purely somewhat luck right
Speaker 1: of whether or not you've an offspring that essentially are
Speaker 1: good at football one and then two you know your
Speaker 1: dad or mother plays x amount of games, and then
Speaker 1: you can kind of, I guess, get priority picks. But
Speaker 1: it does add for a great feel good experience of AFL, right,
Speaker 1: like seeing someone whose parents have played, seeing them at
Speaker 1: games and seeing them given the jumper or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. You know, I think that's such a it
Speaker 1: is such a feel good moment as a player is
Speaker 1: played a hundred games. I find it really weird because
Speaker 1: people are like, hey, get to one hundred, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you know what that means. And I'm like
Speaker 1: what They're like, well, you can have sex with someone,
Speaker 1: have a kid, and then the kid will play for
Speaker 1: the play for the Mighty Bagpipes. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: let's start step one. Let's let's find partner here six
Speaker 1: oh man. But it's it's a it's a weird dynamic
Speaker 1: when people kind of like start telling you whenever you
Speaker 1: hit a hundred or like put pressure on to have kids,
Speaker 1: and You're like, look, I don't have kids for them
Speaker 1: to play a fl I have kids for the you know,
Speaker 1: the enjoyment of like wanting to raise a child, like,
Speaker 1: not forcing them into a sport. Yeah, but I I
Speaker 1: literally think the father son will be gone in a decade.
Speaker 2: For starters, I don't. I can't imagine many people are
Speaker 2: coming up to you saying, quick, Mace, we need your
Speaker 2: father son selection.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's not happening out. I'm going look, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the cinnamon, but my kid's going into the NBA.
Speaker 1: Is he is my retirement or she is going to
Speaker 1: be my retirement plan? And you best believe he ain't
Speaker 1: doing he ain't touching a football. He's only touching the basketball.
Speaker 2: And then I would say we hear a lot less
Speaker 2: about it when a father's son goes to a team
Speaker 2: that's lower on the ladder. So I reckon that tells
Speaker 2: me more that it's it's a real non issue. It's
Speaker 2: people that are complaining, complaining because if you're looking at
Speaker 2: unfair competitive advantages, it's just showed you freeman 's travel schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if you're not fixing that before you're fixing the
Speaker 2: father son rule, you've got rocks in your head because
Speaker 2: they travel every second week from Perth. They went, where'd
Speaker 2: they go? They were Alice Springs, then they're in Melbourne,
Speaker 2: back in Perth, then to Sydney, then to Tazzy, then
Speaker 2: to Perth. Like people bitching and moaning about one player
Speaker 2: coming across because his dad has a long standing history
Speaker 2: with the club. The Silvannis are like the Decos boys
Speaker 2: that they've been attached to their clubs forever and it's
Speaker 2: something that's very amazing and I'm sick of people bitching
Speaker 2: about it. Let's talk about the six six six warning
Speaker 2: because it gets brought up every other week on the
Speaker 2: broadcast and I just wanted to get yours as the
Speaker 2: as the big fellow that they ask.
Speaker 1: In the middle of that they give the free kick to.
Speaker 1: If it is, it goes straight to the rockman. What
Speaker 1: does the ruckman do? Hamp hold Nick the.
Speaker 2: Six six six rule. You've got to start six in
Speaker 2: each stone. We all know the rule. We all know
Speaker 2: what it's about. Are we still needing the warning? If
Speaker 2: you're not lined up in your six six to sixth formations?
Speaker 1: We're in the third year, fourth year, fifth year or something.
Speaker 1: I've doing this. It's been a while, so I think
Speaker 1: the warning system. I think we're pretty well aware of
Speaker 1: what's going on. If you're not, then I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you. But I think the warning is
Speaker 1: just not a necessity anymore.
Speaker 2: Do you think anyone uses it on purpose? Do you
Speaker 2: reckon people stand out a zone to slow the game down,
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm not saying that we have. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have. I would say other teams are
Speaker 1: probably looked at it as a strategy to maybe figure
Speaker 1: out someone that needs to move from the front line
Speaker 1: to the back line, maybe late in the game or
Speaker 1: something like that, or whoever it is. They now stay out,
Speaker 1: just put five in the four lines and then we
Speaker 1: can kind of fix our formation if we haven't had
Speaker 1: a warning yet. Like that's that's an easy way of saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to get a few extra seconds to be
Speaker 1: able to figure this out. But the thing is, right,
Speaker 1: is like you have the time that you need to
Speaker 1: centially set up. I think it's thirty seconds whoever it
Speaker 1: is after you kick a goal. Now that thirty seconds
Speaker 1: is kind of there's like where do you have that
Speaker 1: displayed for the players? Right? I think that you have
Speaker 1: it on the big screen. But it's just like such
Speaker 1: a such a weird dynamic. There needs to be a yeah,
Speaker 1: there needs to be you know, like soccer has like
Speaker 1: a person that says like nine extra minutes on the
Speaker 1: side that's run by not either team, it's run by
Speaker 1: the umpires essentially, right, yea. I think what should happen
Speaker 1: is there should be someone on the sideline that is
Speaker 1: AFL neither team, because the teams do have their own
Speaker 1: specific signs, that should be holding up something that shows
Speaker 1: the time like that, you know, because I think like
Speaker 1: you sit there and you look at the screen and
Speaker 1: the screen's looking at highlights or something else is going on.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is like, there needs to be a designated
Speaker 1: thing that's free of distractions that shows the time that
Speaker 1: you have to be able to set up or the
Speaker 1: time for you know, a set shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually didn't even think about that, Like, how
Speaker 2: do you know how long you have?
Speaker 1: You screen's working and you look up there. That's how
Speaker 1: you know how much times is left? Whenever you're like
Speaker 1: you're doing a set shot, and then whenever you know,
Speaker 1: six seconds is there the umpire says, moving on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really weird dynamic because that's why people look
Speaker 1: up to the screen because the umpire doesn't have a
Speaker 1: time or a watch that you're sitting there going you've
Speaker 1: got ten seconds, you got five more seconds, you got
Speaker 1: two seconds? Like that doesn't happen. You just kind of
Speaker 1: get this vague understanding by a clock that's ticking in
Speaker 1: the background that's not really attached to the umpire whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So let's say you get like a ball kicked into
Speaker 1: you and you bubbled around, you get injured on the
Speaker 1: way down whatever it is, and you get back up
Speaker 1: and the clock's already started. You're going, okay, well I've
Speaker 1: got five seconds essentially now to figure out how I'm
Speaker 1: many to kick the and it's like and then the
Speaker 1: umpire is maybe going now you've got more time, But
Speaker 1: then the clock's telling you and I have more time,
Speaker 1: So then you're kind of like, what is it? You know?
Speaker 1: So I think there needs to be a better way
Speaker 1: or system of doing that. Whether it's an umpire whistle
Speaker 1: to say you know it's starting now, finishing now, or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I'm not sure how it would be handled,
Speaker 1: but I think there is a room for improvement.
Speaker 2: Speaking of room for improvement, we've tried to improve the
Speaker 2: umpiring by adding an extra one this year. Just run
Speaker 2: in and run around. I reckon we should start fielding
Speaker 2: eighteen four on the bench umpires that run out there
Speaker 2: as their own mini team and you put your assigned
Speaker 2: one umpire to each player. Yep, because I reckon more umpires.
Speaker 1: I might get a free kick.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, they all just start fighting, punching
Speaker 2: on scrap and jump a punch it. No, we've got
Speaker 2: the extra umpire this year, and I want to get
Speaker 2: your view on it without you getting fined, because.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just an issue we have on
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like from the it's been denied that
Speaker 2: there's like an issue with the extra umpire, but it
Speaker 2: seems to be the clearest outlier from last year to
Speaker 2: this year where the umpires are really slow and delayed
Speaker 2: on the whistle. They're looking around, they're waiting for out
Speaker 2: of area confirmation, they're getting spoken to in there. Is
Speaker 2: that there's too many chefs in the kitchen, they would say,
Speaker 2: But I don't know. The AFL seems to come out
Speaker 2: and tick off on everything. But have you noticed a
Speaker 2: difference in the game with the extra umpire and do
Speaker 2: you think it's necessary.
Speaker 1: I think it is necessary at the moment, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know the details behind this, but I have
Speaker 1: an opinion as of there is not enough umpires coming
Speaker 1: through the system at a consistent pace compared to previous years.
Speaker 1: And I think what the AFL is doing is they're
Speaker 1: trying to fast track people's experience by putting more umpires
Speaker 1: on the field and surrounding them with people are more
Speaker 1: experienced to help them get fast tracked into being what
Speaker 1: you could say is an experienced umpire. I think that's
Speaker 1: what's happening.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't that then rely on numbers being stripped out Eventually?
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're using all your umpires on all the games.
Speaker 2: They can't umpire other games because they're tired, because they
Speaker 2: just unpired games. So it's like you are getting their
Speaker 2: experience in them, but then you almost need to strip
Speaker 2: it back the previous amount of umpires otherwise. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from, but I think they're
Speaker 1: just trying at this moment. Like I look at some
Speaker 1: of the umpires and stuff out there, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what how many games, you know, the experience they
Speaker 1: have and like, you know, how many games of VFL
Speaker 1: and AFL and all that kind of stuff. But I
Speaker 1: see a lot of new faces. Yeah, I see a
Speaker 1: lot of new faces, and I think that's a sign
Speaker 1: that they're trying to get experience in the people. It's
Speaker 1: probably signed me, you know, being in the league for
Speaker 1: a decent amount of time also, But you look at
Speaker 1: the Brett Roseby, who's you know, finished up, who's done
Speaker 1: far up? How many games you do, like four hundred
Speaker 1: games something ridiculous like, And then you've got Rais or Ray.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got all these guys who you know,
Speaker 1: I guess public figures for umpiring right their faces of
Speaker 1: the umpiring world, and people look to them for direction
Speaker 1: on even just you know, things that happen in other games,
Speaker 1: not even technically their games that they umpire. People want
Speaker 1: their opinion as to what they think is the greatest
Speaker 1: or it's like what the actual right decision is. But
Speaker 1: I think for umpires is needed at the moment. From
Speaker 1: AFL side, it is something they're trying to still get
Speaker 1: used to. I think, you know, this is the first
Speaker 1: time they're ever doing it, really, so I think it's
Speaker 1: going to take a few years for them to go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is now normal. This is not something that's changing.
Speaker 1: We're committing to this for the next however long it's
Speaker 1: going to be. So whenever you teach people, you need
Speaker 1: to teach them zones or you need to teach them areas,
Speaker 1: and you need to teach them how to communicate as
Speaker 1: the game goes on, and that's a learning curve that's
Speaker 1: going to take years. And I think that's what we're
Speaker 1: in right now, which causes frustration.
Speaker 2: I can get that, Yeah, yeah, because I look at
Speaker 2: it and I think the more umpires that you're trying
Speaker 2: to slot in there, you're just diluting the quality. That's
Speaker 2: how I see it.
Speaker 1: But I still see sometimes as like an experienced umpire
Speaker 1: will overrule someone who's closer to the contest. And let's
Speaker 1: say the experience some pars one hundred meters away, and
Speaker 1: there's another umpire it's fifty meters away that makes a
Speaker 1: call or something. The experience umpires sometimes will go from
Speaker 1: one hundred meters away and overrule the person that's right
Speaker 1: next to them. Yeah. I have seen that multiple times
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I've seen that a lot this year.
Speaker 1: So I do you know there is a hierarchy within
Speaker 1: the umpires on the field, Yeah, you can see it.
Speaker 1: So you got to think that there is essentially a
Speaker 1: learning curve between the two that's trying to be taught
Speaker 1: and passed down to another umpire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I see making those other umpires gun shy,
Speaker 2: which is why I feel like there's a lag in
Speaker 2: the communication, which then we see incidents like Stephen Mayer
Speaker 2: getting dumped or whoever getting dumped because there's a delay
Speaker 2: on the whistle. They've been told to call it faster.
Speaker 2: They've been like, there's so much communication there from the
Speaker 2: AFL house through to the umpires, through to the multiple
Speaker 2: umpires on field.
Speaker 1: I feel for umpires because it is one of the
Speaker 1: hardest things to be someone who has to make decisions
Speaker 1: on an opinionated sport. Yeah, every decision you make, whether
Speaker 1: it be a holding ball, not, free kick not, there's
Speaker 1: no clear cut rule. It is almost purely opinionated on
Speaker 1: each umpire. So you might have one umpire that goes, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to umpire this as a
Speaker 1: Grand Final, so essentially no free kicks. Liam. I have
Speaker 1: another umpire goes, well, hold on, every time you get touched,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that a free kick. And it's just
Speaker 1: purely based on how you adjudicate things. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things to do. And then the
Speaker 1: AFL goes and changes rules throughout the season of how
Speaker 1: things are supposed to be adjudicated, and then you have
Speaker 1: to be updated on that, and it's it's a wild
Speaker 1: process that is unlike any other sport in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know any other sport that just decides to
Speaker 1: change rules in the mellow season. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, interpretations, You've got to make that clear. They don't
Speaker 2: change the rules, they change how they're interpreted. Mason.
Speaker 1: You could almost say that's the changing of the rule.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into this one because this isn't my opinion.
Speaker 2: I actually like the big brisk But BT has come
Speaker 2: under fire.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say someone comes under fire when
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half people on Twitter tweet out about
Speaker 2: them and they make an article off the back of it.
Speaker 2: But there's been a bit of a petition put out
Speaker 2: there that BT be removed as the head commentator from
Speaker 2: Channel seven's footy coverage just because people don't like his vibe. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a if you can take
Speaker 2: that to HR and put that in there, someone.
Speaker 1: Say they're not like his vibe. I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the demographic of under twenty five.
Speaker 2: Minute yeah check. But I want to ask you, out
Speaker 2: of all the things that we should scrap, should we
Speaker 2: be scrapping BT from Channel seven's commentary to you?
Speaker 1: Hell? Now, BT is one of the things you can
Speaker 1: you can have your opinions on, like commentators on. That's whatever.
Speaker 1: That's your own decision, whatever it may be. But I
Speaker 1: think Brian Taylor is good for the game because he
Speaker 1: provides something that's totally different to any other commentator. He
Speaker 1: provides entertainment. He provides energy and it's it's unique, and
Speaker 1: I think that is something that people don't play give
Speaker 1: enough credit to. He cops a lot of shit from
Speaker 1: people for no reason. I think it's just because I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's calling with supporter and people just
Speaker 1: say calling with herfore they hate him or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. But I I find it wild how much
Speaker 1: criticism he has. And he's done that job for a
Speaker 1: long time, so like it's just part of the experience.
Speaker 1: Is like, if you've done anything for a long time,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get haters, and that's just that's just
Speaker 1: part of media, right. But I think Brian's just someone
Speaker 1: who I mean, like, put yourself in his position. Imagine
Speaker 1: Channel seven just rocking up to you and going, hey,
Speaker 1: here's a mic, just go interview people in the in
Speaker 1: the rooms. How many how many other commentators would thrive
Speaker 1: in that scenario.
Speaker 2: Well, that was his eye. He brought that concept to
Speaker 2: the table. So he's bringing new stuff. I think the
Speaker 2: multiple arguments that I hear against BT one, I like
Speaker 2: him better on Triple M, and I feel like that
Speaker 2: needs to be explained a little bit to people that
Speaker 2: Triple M have their key demographic, which is men aged
Speaker 2: between you know, eighteen through sixty five or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: so they speak to that audience and to do that,
Speaker 2: he can be completely and utterly himself. And he's got
Speaker 2: a team that they've built chemistry with, including James Brayshaw,
Speaker 2: and they've been doing it for decades. They know how
Speaker 2: like each other works. They know their sense of humor,
Speaker 2: and they know that key demographic and that brand, which
Speaker 2: is Triple M. Channel seven's very different. You've got to
Speaker 2: speak to families. You've got to speak to men, women, children,
Speaker 2: You've got to be on brand with Channel seven. You've
Speaker 2: got to be able to tick off everything because it
Speaker 2: needs to be able to appeal to all advertisers of
Speaker 2: all brand categories from washing Detergent through to you know,
Speaker 2: macas through to everything. So like there's two different things
Speaker 2: that he has to be able to completely cater to,
Speaker 2: and that's a hard thing in itself. You've got to
Speaker 2: be able to on one game on a Friday night
Speaker 2: rock up and cater to the Channel seven audience which
Speaker 2: is everyone, and then on a Saturday night game you've
Speaker 2: got to be able to roll into Triple M and
Speaker 2: talk shit with the boys, because you're speaking to a
Speaker 2: male audience. I think that's one argument that I hear.
Speaker 2: And then the other argument is coming off the back
Speaker 2: of he's first up, essentially off the back of the
Speaker 2: legacy that's Bruce mcaveaney and Dennis Committee, which are two
Speaker 2: of the all time greats of commentary across all sport.
Speaker 2: They do multiple different sports, especially Bruce, and you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like people are comparing him to them and
Speaker 2: saying he should be more like them, and that's not
Speaker 2: his style. He said. There's a varying different styles amongst commentators.
Speaker 2: Some show up with every stat Some show up with
Speaker 2: background knowledge of every player and have stories about their
Speaker 2: families and their upbringings that they bring to the commentary
Speaker 2: and bring flavor to it. That's not BT. BT tries
Speaker 2: to entertain. He tries to color it in. He commentates
Speaker 2: from the moment and from his heart, and that's something
Speaker 2: different to what the others do. And he is also
Speaker 2: an ex player lead commentator, so he can speak through
Speaker 2: experience where someone like a Bruce mcavany wouldn't dare speak
Speaker 2: ill of anyone because he's never done it. He never
Speaker 2: played it, so he was great at pumping up players
Speaker 2: for their ability and their showmanship, and he'd bring life
Speaker 2: to a moment, whereas BT has experience so he can.
Speaker 1: Talk people through it it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can talk people through it from his perspective.
Speaker 2: Oh when you hear on this pocket from the MCG
Speaker 2: you got to kick it at this post and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, where Bruce and Dennis aren't really doing that.
Speaker 2: That's not what they bring. So I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's comparison that's getting him a fair bit, and then
Speaker 2: the demographic and then who else are you going to
Speaker 2: replace him with? Is the final part, because they don't
Speaker 2: grow on trees.
Speaker 1: Now, I think people believe that commentary is way easier
Speaker 1: than it actually is. I think people just think they
Speaker 1: just rock up. They just sit there, you know, they
Speaker 1: just talk about the football, and yeah, they don't do
Speaker 1: any kind of research like you would be amazed like
Speaker 1: some of the people on there in the industry. Like
Speaker 1: we've had Abby Homes on this podcast, and I've talked
Speaker 1: to her about like what she has to prep and
Speaker 1: she's a sideline reporter and then now she's getting into
Speaker 1: a bit of the commentary stuff now and it is
Speaker 1: phenomenal the amount of work she does behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and she's very good and she's very and there's a
Speaker 1: reason because she works her ass off to be very good.
Speaker 1: She knows all the statistics, and like they have a
Speaker 1: person that can go to to be able to ask
Speaker 1: questions of him, to say, like you know, what's the
Speaker 1: percentage shots here or there or whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: like get some background knowledge for someone to go and
Speaker 1: research come back to him. So then they have a
Speaker 1: nugget and whenever it comes to the game to give
Speaker 1: to the audience. Right. And I think people just with BT,
Speaker 1: like whenever you have a commentary career, everyone brings their
Speaker 1: different things, right, BT's entertainment. You know, you might have
Speaker 1: Luke Hodge, who's more you know, straight down the line,
Speaker 1: this is experience that I've had. You know, this is
Speaker 1: the way I see it. You know, you have every different,
Speaker 1: diverse kind of person on a panel. But I just
Speaker 1: I think he just brings something that's totally unique. I
Speaker 1: think he's very well educated and what he actually does
Speaker 1: talk about. I think people just want to talk shit
Speaker 1: about someone because they're different. I know that's a very
Speaker 1: Australian thing. And for some reason, like he's a target
Speaker 1: because he's you know, entertaining is loud, he's everyone knows
Speaker 1: who he is. He's different. He goes and you know
Speaker 1: it does weird things, and you know, everyone knows Roaming Brian.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he interacts with all the players, and I
Speaker 1: think all the players have a massive amount of respect
Speaker 1: for what he has to do and what he gets
Speaker 1: pushed into, you know, doing with different people, like I
Speaker 1: think sometimes you know, he goes down there and he
Speaker 1: can tell people don't want to talk to him. But
Speaker 1: Channel seven is probably in his ear going Chad wan
Speaker 1: Or played amazing today, Go talk to him and his family.
Speaker 1: I don't care. And that's a hard position to be
Speaker 1: in to sit there and try to force yourself into
Speaker 1: a conversation. Ever people don't want to have it, and
Speaker 1: he does it so well. It's not easy. I think.
Speaker 1: I think more people need to give credit to him
Speaker 1: and stop being so berated whenever it comes to his feedback,
Speaker 1: because it's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you say to yourself, I do like
Speaker 2: it when he takes the piss, I think, are you
Speaker 2: in that key demogram?
Speaker 1: Are you a triple M person? You're a Channel seven person,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: And I want to bring up one more thing before
Speaker 2: we move on to the big winners for the week.
Speaker 2: But Dangerfields tackle. I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 1: Dangerfield's dangerous tackle you That's what I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about, because Danger tackled Semi.
Speaker 2: Walsh in an instant where Walsh is running away, Danger's
Speaker 2: coming up trailing behind him. Walsh tries to get his
Speaker 2: arms free to handball over the top. Danger in a
Speaker 2: vice like grip, grabs him, pinsy arms and takes him
Speaker 2: in a tackle where it's almost like he's stealing second base.
Speaker 2: He's got the slide going. He doesn't hit his head
Speaker 2: on the ground. He hits it almost on Danger's lap,
Speaker 2: but it gets done for the dangerous tackle, and they've
Speaker 2: given him a week for it. I looked at that
Speaker 2: one and I feel like each week we're going to
Speaker 2: discover a new way to dangerously tackle someone. And this
Speaker 2: was the first time I've seen emotion like this. And
Speaker 2: now normally they always like to bring up old stuff
Speaker 2: when they go to tribune or it's like this, it's
Speaker 2: like this, this guy got off, But yeah, I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything kind of like this before, and I was
Speaker 2: just wondering how else would he go about this tackle
Speaker 2: in the circumstance that he was in, it's either let
Speaker 2: him get the handball out and not tackle, or tackle
Speaker 2: him and let him get the handball out and don't
Speaker 2: get done for dangerous tackle or tackle the way that
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've come to the realization. I think the IFL
Speaker 1: has made this very clear as if there's any kind
Speaker 1: of like motion of someone's head slinging or kind of
Speaker 1: like whiplashing into the ground, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: week no matter how you tackle them or how it
Speaker 1: happens like, it's going to be a week. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what they've come to adjudicate it as. Yeah, dangers
Speaker 1: one like this. It's it's so hard like tackling someone
Speaker 1: like that and then trying to at the same time
Speaker 1: like let an arm free, but you don't want them
Speaker 1: to dispose of it the same. It's just so hard.
Speaker 1: And if Sam somehow, you know, like kind of falls
Speaker 1: on the side, then probably not an issue. Like there's
Speaker 1: kind of that. There's so many things that could happen,
Speaker 1: the what ifs, the what ifs or what ifs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it from the AFL standpoint, any whiplash is
Speaker 1: going to be a weak They've made that very clear danger.
Speaker 1: How he could have done that better? Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you just can only grab one arm and
Speaker 1: the other one's got to go across the body, you
Speaker 1: can't grab both arms kind of thing like that's maybe,
Speaker 1: I guess the way the AFL is going to say,
Speaker 1: how you could have done that better? But in the
Speaker 1: moment and everything else, good Lord to be able to
Speaker 1: process that in that short timeframe of trying to tackle
Speaker 1: someone be pretty phenomenal within itself. I just think it's
Speaker 1: one of those that danger unfortunately, is just on the
Speaker 1: shit into the stick whenever it comes to this, and
Speaker 1: he's just gonna have to deal with the one game
Speaker 1: or you know, maybe he can go to the tribunal
Speaker 1: and try to get it, you know, taken away. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a tough one. I think it's almost impossible to
Speaker 1: sit there and say, now are we gonna go. Look,
Speaker 1: you can't grab both arms and take them to ground.
Speaker 1: You can grab both arms and stand up, but if
Speaker 1: you take them to ground then it's technically a free kick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't if someone sit there, Let's say hypothetically
Speaker 1: someone has the ball at their hips, and they're just
Speaker 1: holding it at the bottom right, Like, well, you can't
Speaker 1: tackle below their legs, can't tackle above their shoulders, so
Speaker 1: if you tackle them, you're gonna have to be getting
Speaker 1: both arms. So if the person just falls forward, is
Speaker 1: it a free kick? You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I just be walking around acting like I'm about to
Speaker 1: kick the ball all the time, so they can get
Speaker 1: a free kick no matter what. And someone touches me,
Speaker 1: I just fall to the grounds.
Speaker 2: We found a look around like, yeah, it's always the
Speaker 2: primary school movement where it's like we got them, We
Speaker 2: bloody got them. That's a good point, though I hadn't
Speaker 2: actually thought about that, But we'll wait and see that'll happen.
Speaker 1: Now, odd way after his injury of getting around the game.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into the big winners for the week because
Speaker 2: we've plucked out a couple and I want to just
Speaker 2: say this Brisbane Football Club is back, and they've been
Speaker 2: back since the bye. Now. Dunk's brought up on his
Speaker 2: podcast that at the mid season break when they did
Speaker 2: have their buy they looked at their stats and based
Speaker 2: on this year's stats and last year's stats, they were equal,
Speaker 2: if not better, in most stats except for one, and
Speaker 2: that was kicking accuracy. Goal kicking accuracy. Now on the
Speaker 2: week nd, they didn't have that many issues with that
Speaker 2: because I think they kicked twenty three goals thirteen or
Speaker 2: fourteen or so much, so they've got the accuracy part
Speaker 2: right and now they're blowing teams away. Do you you
Speaker 2: reckon the Brisbane lines are back?
Speaker 1: I will say yes for now, Yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one of the big issues. I think was
Speaker 1: the goalkicking stuff. I think Hipwood had five over the weekend,
Speaker 1: kicked twelve straight them at one stage, so they've fixed
Speaker 1: it for the time being. But yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting because at the beginning it was
Speaker 1: all like, oh, there's a culture issue and this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know, and then now it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's the excuse we're going to talk about now in
Speaker 1: the media, like oh this or that, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think because they made a Grand Final
Speaker 1: last year, there's always going to be a bit of
Speaker 1: a microscope on them for this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fair, but I think the Brisbane team has so much
Speaker 1: time now where they can take the momentum and go
Speaker 1: through the end of the season. You know, no one's
Speaker 1: going to be talking about the beginning. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: sit there and win the next few games, everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh cool, Like they're in finals. Like I
Speaker 1: was sick, They're a chance to win this whole thing again,
Speaker 1: you know, and no one's going to be even remembering
Speaker 1: the conversations that were held at the beginning of the year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think they have a big chance now and
Speaker 1: they've turned it on at the right time, because if
Speaker 1: they weren't being successful three or four games ago, then
Speaker 1: it was going to be real tough for them to
Speaker 1: be able to get over the line to get to finals.
Speaker 1: But now having these three wins in a row their
Speaker 1: in form again. Now it's an important time for them
Speaker 1: to be in formed to be able to make finals
Speaker 1: and be able to make a run. And I think
Speaker 1: that's it's a good sign for Brisbane fans.
Speaker 2: Ickon a lot of those people, you know, the statisticians
Speaker 2: at the start of the year that say, oh, if
Speaker 2: you lose the first two games of the year, statistically
Speaker 2: you're not going to make finals and all that crap.
Speaker 2: How long is this season? I feel like if there's
Speaker 2: ever a team to if there's ever a year to
Speaker 2: start shit and come good. It's this year because so
Speaker 2: many teams keep falling down. It's very tight. It's tight
Speaker 2: in terms of the competition, but I feel not many
Speaker 2: teams outside of Sydney are really like, you know, stepping up.
Speaker 2: Colin would have the slow start. You guys have come good.
Speaker 2: Essenon have been remarkably consistent. Uh, Carlton have had a
Speaker 2: couple of patches.
Speaker 1: How hyped would the AFL be right now with the
Speaker 1: top four. You've got Sydney the team they want to
Speaker 1: be successful and try to get into New South Wales market. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then you've got the three biggest teams in Victoria. You've
Speaker 1: got Carlton, Esston, Collingwood sitting at two three four. Yeah.
Speaker 1: AFL would have the biggest hot on right now. Look
Speaker 1: straight up, it would be going someone someone makes sure
Speaker 1: we're making a fuck ton of money out of.
Speaker 2: This and in the Gold Coast Suns to have a
Speaker 2: late run at finals and then there that's the finisher. Big.
Speaker 2: Oh also kick three snakes having a few snaggles.
Speaker 1: Let's to the next game.
Speaker 2: We got Carlton demolished the Cats, but it was a
Speaker 2: bit late. Cats were in it most of the way.
Speaker 2: We don't know where they're sitting at the moment because
Speaker 2: they're a bit up and down. But Carlton did kind
Speaker 2: of change up their style a bit. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of free flowing run which really kind of helped
Speaker 2: out their forwards and was reflected on the scoreboard. Charlie five,
Speaker 2: Harry kicked three, little Owi's popped up and kicked three himself,
Speaker 2: did the hole, got his Carlton jumper out and he
Speaker 2: was showing the cheer squad like he loves to do.
Speaker 2: So they're all up and about, but it was the
Speaker 2: last quarter where all the damage was done. Carlton kicked
Speaker 2: nine goals to three and kind of just knocked it
Speaker 2: on their head. But there was a couple of incidents
Speaker 2: out of this one, but we will say Carlton big
Speaker 2: winners for the weekend and they're right up in the
Speaker 2: top four. A couple of interesting ones. Jazz had a
Speaker 2: shot a goal after the siren and acd off his line,
Speaker 2: which is very obvious because he kicked it next to
Speaker 2: the man on the mark. Kicked the goals.
Speaker 1: Definition of yeah, everyone kind.
Speaker 2: Of looked a bit confused, but there was it was
Speaker 2: almost like it was too long to make a negative decision,
Speaker 2: so they just said, ah, let's call it a girl.
Speaker 2: Gov was the man on the mark and he made
Speaker 2: a very like, you know, smart point to the umpire
Speaker 2: who just gave him nothing. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: you're probably right, but it happened.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to admit it.
Speaker 2: Let's move on and the da Konings. The Coning brothers
Speaker 2: played against each other. Now it started strong with a
Speaker 2: rock contest. So Sam plays for Geelong and who's the
Speaker 2: other one, Tom? Tom plays for Carton TDK because that's
Speaker 2: Robbie Williams's favorite player, right, all right, we got that undercover,
Speaker 2: we got that on the train.
Speaker 1: For fact, we had who do we have? We had
Speaker 1: the we had Harry McKay and Ben mc and then
Speaker 1: now we've got the bros on each other.
Speaker 2: And they've all got real stock stand in three letter names.
Speaker 2: We like it. But yeah, So we started off with
Speaker 2: Tom in the rock contest against Sam.
Speaker 1: And threw them.
Speaker 2: But Sam was going for that, like I'm just going
Speaker 2: to run through him here, and he did a bit
Speaker 2: of the old toro and let it stepped out of
Speaker 2: the way, got it kicked the goal from the rock contest.
Speaker 2: That was a beautiful one.
Speaker 1: That's that's the most embarrassing thing you can do to
Speaker 1: a rockman. That's rough. It's a real, real tough feeling there.
Speaker 1: So he would have loved that, being the brother just
Speaker 1: going hey, that's one zero. Sorry.
Speaker 2: I tell you who loved it was the deaconing mum
Speaker 2: because she was up in the stage.
Speaker 1: She had one of those scarfs that's like half and half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cliches, but she was loving it. Later on
Speaker 2: in the game, Sam got a free kick for an
Speaker 2: unrealistic attempt, so we'll give him one, but he got
Speaker 2: one back, so Mum was happy up in the stands.
Speaker 2: Each boy kicks a goal. You know, there's no fights
Speaker 2: in the car on the way home. But that was
Speaker 2: a good one. A bit of a sour note what
Speaker 2: change rooms she go to the winners.
Speaker 1: Mothers might need to console the person not lost. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a real decision to who's the favorite.
Speaker 2: That's a good. Yeah, that's a good that's.
Speaker 1: What we should have suld my mum. Watch mum, watch
Speaker 1: see where she goes, then we can judge her. She
Speaker 1: loves sports, jump across.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Big Tommy Hawkins in his foot kind of just
Speaker 2: collapsed on him. Yeah, a big fellow does have to
Speaker 2: cut around that big frame every week. So hopefully he
Speaker 2: gets back out there. I don't want that to be
Speaker 2: the last time we see him. But if we don't
Speaker 2: see you out in the field, we'll see it in
Speaker 2: another Taylor Swift concert, double parked like you were in
Speaker 2: the preseason. We'll go across to the big losers. And
Speaker 2: there's no bigger loser this week than Port Adelaide Football Club.
Speaker 2: Unfortunate to say it because we do love our boy
Speaker 2: Ken love copying at the moment is absolutely low torch
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 1: The yearly thing though, this is a yearly thing with Kitny.
Speaker 1: He loses, he loses the game at home and the
Speaker 1: port out of this supporters all turn on him. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: my guinea, can you give anyway he does? He wants
Speaker 1: two or three games, you know what they say. Kittie's
Speaker 1: my boy behind him the whole time. They should be
Speaker 1: signed for a ten.
Speaker 2: Year contracts the same.
Speaker 1: Ship every year Port Adelaide fans.
Speaker 2: He's out there doing the jig, but they are sitting eighth,
Speaker 2: so it's not all over yet. But they've lost three
Speaker 2: of their last three, and two of those are being
Speaker 2: home games, so not what you want, and they absolutely got.
Speaker 1: I feel like as a port Adelaide supporter, they're sometimes
Speaker 1: okay with losses away. Losing at home, there's a real
Speaker 1: like no note for them, like they do not handle
Speaker 1: that well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they do the whole crap with holding the
Speaker 2: scarf up and then now.
Speaker 1: Then you've got to walk through the crowd to get
Speaker 1: down to the like to the to the to the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah they should do.
Speaker 1: They do not have the elevator. It's purely out in the.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much every coaches had a punch on someone
Speaker 2: in the crowd and let over.
Speaker 1: You think the AFL was safety and secure? Do you?
Speaker 1: Being number one? Hopefully number one, they would change that
Speaker 1: on apt but here we are.
Speaker 2: I reckon. Do you ever watch wrestling growing up?
Speaker 1: Not a lot. I could see you definitely.
Speaker 2: The heartbreak kids. Sean Michaels, he would he would get
Speaker 2: the cable into WrestleMania from the from the stands. He'd
Speaker 2: cable down to the ring, maybe one of them with
Speaker 2: Kenny Hinckley on it. He just cables down.
Speaker 1: Would pay so much money for that to see that visual.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, can we make this happen? First got
Speaker 1: the cable, I opt just has the ability to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm putting it out there to the AFL and we'll
Speaker 2: give the second biggest loser slot to Melbourne. They got
Speaker 2: the win, so it kind of seems contradictory, but they
Speaker 2: really did park the bus at the end of the third.
Speaker 2: They didn't kick a score in the last quarter, not
Speaker 2: a point, not a crumb. But that was North Melbourne
Speaker 2: coming home strong, which is the opposite they did to
Speaker 2: the week before, where obviously Collingwood home strung. We'll talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about that later. But there was some interesting.
Speaker 1: Points, a bit of fighting this one. You could say
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a scrap in this game,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to see. I have no idea how
Speaker 1: much money is gonna get thrown from the players for
Speaker 1: the fines, but it was good to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind a bit of a punch on
Speaker 2: in the back of my head now, in the back
Speaker 2: of in the back of my head. Now, every time
Speaker 2: I see one of those scraps, I'm like, no one's
Speaker 2: going to do anything, you know, So it's kind of
Speaker 2: a bit lost on me. Now, back in the day,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Like just supporting your team mate someone's getting tagged or
Speaker 1: something to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shake them a bit. I'm just gonna come over
Speaker 2: and shake you a bit.
Speaker 1: I mean like whenever I was first came here, it
Speaker 1: was like, no one really shook you. People grabbed your
Speaker 1: jumper so that they could punch you in the face.
Speaker 2: Jump a punch. It was you could jump a punch
Speaker 2: then and then they outlawed the jumper punch.
Speaker 1: Well you could, you could hit them high, it didn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just it was a way of just, I guess,
Speaker 1: disguising the fact that you can punch someone in the face. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then you started wearing tighter jersey and you're like,
Speaker 1: I can't do any more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think back to like the line in
Speaker 2: the Sand game and like Richie Vandenburg kneeing blokes on
Speaker 2: the ground and stuff. Anyway, we don't need to bring
Speaker 2: it back. We're a family game. But we will talk
Speaker 2: about the tagger because if he wanted to scrag one bloke,
Speaker 2: it's the tagger. But Will Phillips, you know, he learned
Speaker 2: what he learned in the Nick game. Nick Deakos against
Speaker 2: North he got subbed out at the third Nick ran
Speaker 2: away with it. But he had Clayton Oliver this week
Speaker 2: and he held him to five touches to halftime and
Speaker 2: Clayton gave away four free kicks, so it's fair to
Speaker 2: say that he was in his head a bit. So
Speaker 2: I reckon that you give him the chocolates for that one.
Speaker 2: Trent Rivers. They moved him into the midfield without track
Speaker 2: and he, you know, he was up on disposals, kicked
Speaker 2: a cracking goal on the run, danced around a few
Speaker 2: bursts through the pack. That was great to see. But
Speaker 2: we're all here for North Melbourne who kicked five straight
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter and I think that's impressive and
Speaker 2: then managing to keep Melbourne square. This is big ticks
Speaker 2: for the North Melbourne football.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it wasn't a high scoring game either,
Speaker 1: so to kick five straight in a fourth quarter like
Speaker 1: that was. There was almost half their points just in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter right there. To come home strong and
Speaker 1: not let them kick any it's credit to him. North
Speaker 1: is one of those just you know, people don't look
Speaker 1: at them as an easy win anymore. You got to
Speaker 1: be prepped for North to give you a fair crack
Speaker 1: like they are willing to take teams still lining like
Speaker 1: where I think a lot of probably fans and stuff
Speaker 1: in previous years start out in North Melbourne easy w right,
Speaker 1: Like you look at last week Collingwood going down by
Speaker 1: a significant margin by them, and then now them taking Melbourne,
Speaker 1: who's another top team to the line, Like you look
Speaker 1: at North and you say, look, it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: an easy game. You gotta rock out and give your best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it comes off the back of if you
Speaker 2: have a win, then you go, that's what we need
Speaker 2: to do. You got a blueprint. Yeah, Okay, if we
Speaker 2: do that every week, we're gonna win or at least
Speaker 2: be competitive. And since they got the win, they've definitely
Speaker 2: been competitive, probably should have got a win or two.
Speaker 2: So it's great to see. Now. We all wanted to
Speaker 2: just see a sign from North and we probably didn't
Speaker 2: think that it would come mid season, because if you're
Speaker 2: in one of those teams that's struggling, normally the lowest
Speaker 2: depths come in the middle of the season when you're
Speaker 2: like you're far away from the excitement of the start
Speaker 2: and you're a hell of a long way from postseason
Speaker 2: celebrations and holidays and you're right in the thick of it.
Speaker 2: But they've come good in the middle, so it's big
Speaker 2: credit to North Melbourne. On the other hand, they have
Speaker 2: to go up to Brisbane and versus Brisbane at the
Speaker 2: Gabba next week, which is which could be rough, So.
Speaker 1: Big Brisbane on that one, I think on that game.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be an interesting game. They'll be almost
Speaker 1: a game of around next week. I'm pretty excited to
Speaker 1: watch that one.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find my mouse here, Mace. As we
Speaker 2: move over to Collingwood. We missed last week, so we
Speaker 2: will touch on a couple of things that happened in
Speaker 2: the Collingwood North game. It was a pretty uneventful game really.
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the most event that's
Speaker 1: ever been braided.
Speaker 2: Let's jump in it because Collingwood. I was saying it
Speaker 2: sitting on the couch watching as someone that wanted Collingwood
Speaker 2: to win the game. That the first half IMO, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, pretty weak because they said outwardly into the
Speaker 2: media in the week leading up we think Collingwood are gettable,
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, you know, in the lead up
Speaker 2: as a coach going against the team down the bottom
Speaker 2: of the ladder. You're looking for inspiration and it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to find it when you're coming up against
Speaker 2: these bottom teams. There's your inspiration print out that stick
Speaker 2: it up on the wall, beauty. They reckon, we're really
Speaker 2: gettable this week. Let's go out and show them what
Speaker 2: we can do. Brandon Maynard's two hundredth game.
Speaker 1: I expected TJ's first game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I expected a like a big game, and then
Speaker 2: North just hit the ground running. They came out, put
Speaker 2: goals on the board, and they didn't stop. They just
Speaker 2: kept kicking goals and Collingwood were chasing. They were trying
Speaker 2: to chase, but for the first three quarters North just
Speaker 2: kept putting margin on them and it was wild. It
Speaker 2: didn't look like there was going to be a turning point.
Speaker 2: But in classic Collingwood fashion, let's leave it very late
Speaker 2: in the piece. But Fly did come out after the
Speaker 2: game and say at three quarter time he put the
Speaker 2: rockets up the lads to say, look, Braden Maynard is
Speaker 2: the heart and soul of the club. He does plenty
Speaker 2: for everyone else, and at the moment he's the only
Speaker 2: one trying out there. So get out there and put
Speaker 2: on a performance for your teammate, and it seemed to
Speaker 2: turn around from that moment because they came home strong
Speaker 2: and chase down a fifty two point fifty four point
Speaker 2: deficit and wine and got the points by one, and
Speaker 2: there was a couple of moments there is a chance.
Speaker 1: To North had to actually take the game too.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about that you reckon. That was a
Speaker 2: fifty meter penalty in that game.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything. That was what happened.
Speaker 2: No, let's talk about why you didn't see anything because
Speaker 2: you started via Instagram. You started the game at the ground,
Speaker 2: so here we go. Let's go lads, photo of the ground.
Speaker 2: A bit of criticism for this too, and then we
Speaker 2: see you sitting and watching the rest of the game
Speaker 2: at home on the couch. Now, you're not a fair
Speaker 2: weather supporter. You may stuck it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not. You know what the wild thing is is
Speaker 1: Bruzzy plus TJ having their big milestone games. I had
Speaker 1: a friend in town from the US who came all
Speaker 1: the way out here to watch me play. I got injured,
Speaker 1: couldn't go to the game. I couldn't get a ticket
Speaker 1: for him. So I felt so guilty for them who
Speaker 1: had come all the way from the US to come
Speaker 1: watch me play. We're sitting in my house watching the
Speaker 1: game on television without me there, just by themselves. I
Speaker 1: was like, shit, I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna be there
Speaker 1: for the boys whenever they run out and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know, and at quarter time I'll
Speaker 1: all head back and get home. Because I've had some
Speaker 1: interesting interactions Brandon since I've been injured. Whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to sitting in the crowd, I've had a few people
Speaker 1: are very inebriated come up to me and make some comments.
Speaker 1: I've had some people ask me about my political opinion
Speaker 1: of the US at the moment, which is a wild
Speaker 1: scenari and thing to ask me in the middle of
Speaker 1: a football game. But I've been you could say, hassle
Speaker 1: at games, Yeah, yeah, and that's I understand. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a weird thing. I've found amazing that the AFL
Speaker 1: hasn't put players who are not playing in a box
Speaker 1: for kind of safety reasons. I think, like you think
Speaker 1: about like a you sit in the stance, like you
Speaker 1: sit in a bay with other people running, and it's
Speaker 1: usually friends and family in there. But like anyone there's
Speaker 1: not a security guard there making sure that people don't
Speaker 1: walk down so like anyone just comes up if they
Speaker 1: see you and just will try to sit next to
Speaker 1: you or take the seat next to you whenever you
Speaker 1: know it's not their seat because they're not friends and family. Ye. So,
Speaker 1: I mean at one point I had a guy come
Speaker 1: and sit next to me. It was double parked, and
Speaker 1: he was very ineborated and was sitting there trying to
Speaker 1: talk to me about the game. I'm sitting there, going,
Speaker 1: you can't even put a sentence together to be fair,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, the guy wasn't you. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: put it past you by any means bread in But
Speaker 1: it is a thing where I think of, you know,
Speaker 1: I think of like the safety of players and stuff.
Speaker 1: At times. I think whenever you include alcohol, you know,
Speaker 1: very emotional people, if it's a rivalry or something like that,
Speaker 1: like there needs to be a bit of safety for
Speaker 1: the players that if one needs to look after. And
Speaker 1: I haven't really experienced it as much because i've been
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't really been in the stands fortunately
Speaker 1: very often over the last few years. But I did
Speaker 1: realize that and whenever we're at the North game, I'll
Speaker 1: come to. I had the decision to go home and
Speaker 1: watch it with my friend who couldn't get a ticket,
Speaker 1: or try to stay at the game, and you know,
Speaker 1: deal with people that were coming up or people that
Speaker 1: were just in the stands and you walk down to
Speaker 1: the rooms and you walk back up and you have
Speaker 1: to go through the crowd to get there too, so
Speaker 1: you get people grabbing you and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: it's an interesting like you want to support the fans
Speaker 1: and be there for the fans and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but you got to realize that there are also is
Speaker 1: opposition supporters that are at that game that you know,
Speaker 1: are emotionally charged and things like that too, So it's
Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic. I didn't really I haven't really
Speaker 1: put much thought too, but that's kind of one of
Speaker 1: the reasons, to be honest, I went home and I
Speaker 1: just sometimes don't feel comfortable sitting in the stands with
Speaker 1: opposition supporters and people having the ability to walk up
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a controversial thing to say, but like, I'm there to
Speaker 1: support the fans. It's great to have the fans are
Speaker 1: and it's awesome to sit with them and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I think whenever you mix them in with people
Speaker 1: who are not those fans or people that might hate
Speaker 1: you because you play for an opposition team and you
Speaker 1: allow them to be mixed in with alcohol and things
Speaker 1: like that, it's leading to what I would say is
Speaker 1: going to be an inevitable bad situation that's going to
Speaker 1: happen in the stands between a player and a fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the AFL is not doing their due diligence to
Speaker 1: protect the players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like we can't really be surprised
Speaker 2: if or when that does happen. Once you add alcohol
Speaker 2: to the mix, it gives people that confidence. It's the
Speaker 2: same type of confidence that when people are in the
Speaker 2: comfort of their own home and they slide into their
Speaker 2: into your DMS and sled you for a number of reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've definitely I can see that happening for sure. I've
Speaker 2: been with you in the streets when you can't escape
Speaker 2: people when you're at the games. I get noticed at
Speaker 2: the games. Is freaky as hilarious. But yeah, so it's scarce.
Speaker 1: It worries me a bit because whenever you have about
Speaker 1: four or five tenes braiden, there's no telling what's coming
Speaker 1: out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. I'm going to realize that I
Speaker 2: am extremely famous now and I need to settle things.
Speaker 1: To hold the standard now Braiden.
Speaker 2: But we will talk about Braidon Maynard because you did
Speaker 2: manage to get the win for the big fella two
Speaker 2: hundred games. Massive accomplishment and massive achievement.
Speaker 1: He's first one of the draft class gets two hundred really, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think it's like myself, Darcy, Jordi, Bruzzi. There's
Speaker 1: there's a few in there that you have been around
Speaker 1: for a while, and he's the first one to gets
Speaker 1: to two hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just thinking back to when he was younger, the big.
Speaker 1: Well, baby faces baby everyone's like that though, Like I
Speaker 1: had a baby face, Geordie, Darcy, we have all grown
Speaker 1: up quite a bit now.
Speaker 2: What a talented draft class that.
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild how many of us are still around. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think about it and I'm like, man, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a very unique. You don't see a group that
Speaker 1: stays around that's all drafted and it seem draft class
Speaker 1: like we've seen.
Speaker 2: No, that's a that's a good one. Derek can tick.
Speaker 1: That'd be happy themselves.
Speaker 2: You can live off that forever.
Speaker 1: Of course, Madson Cocks top yeah, top of outlast.
Speaker 2: And Nick Dacos in that game as well, got off
Speaker 2: the you know, he shook the tag in the last
Speaker 2: quarter and it did some damn. I think he had
Speaker 2: twenty nine kick to dragged them.
Speaker 1: Dragged the boys every movement in the fourth quarter was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty wild what he's still managing to achieve
Speaker 2: as a father son that we're going to keep forever.
Speaker 2: But let's move on to another former champion of Collingwood
Speaker 2: and now in the Hall of Fame, Dane Swan Sweatye
Speaker 2: pretty amazing when you look at it and think of
Speaker 2: people that still aren't in Hall of Fame and Dane
Speaker 2: Swan gets inducted. I love it stands out there. You
Speaker 2: knew a good speech was coming. He was still he's
Speaker 2: still the same person that he's always been, Dane Swan.
Speaker 2: So he would have been twenty fourteen, he would have
Speaker 2: been kind of wrapping it up as you got.
Speaker 1: There with one year a crossover yet, Yeah, do you have.
Speaker 2: Any memories from your first year with Swani?
Speaker 1: For Yeah, Well, like Dane Swan was, I didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was or anything about Remember I came here,
Speaker 1: right and I was very young, just came out of college.
Speaker 1: He was one of those I don't know, like iconic
Speaker 1: players of the club, but like people just loved him
Speaker 1: and loathed them and you saw people would just kind
Speaker 1: of like lose their mind around him, and like I
Speaker 1: just never understood it because I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just like a teammate, you know, like oh good,
Speaker 1: And like Pindles was the same, Traff Cloak was the same.
Speaker 1: Like he was just like, oh, okay, cool. You didn't
Speaker 1: grasp how big of a deal they were. But yes, Swanny,
Speaker 1: he was always really nice. I think people don't realize.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a bit of a quiet operator
Speaker 1: at times, but he's funny whenever he speaks. He's one
Speaker 1: of those people it doesn't speak a lot, but when
Speaker 1: he speaks, you know, it's it's pretty like everyone gets
Speaker 1: a crack out of it. And I remember, like when
Speaker 1: I first came here, he took me out for a
Speaker 1: night out, like he was part of the crew that
Speaker 1: went out and stuff, and you know, he's got a
Speaker 1: lovely wife and kids now, and his wife's from America
Speaker 1: and they were just really nice like you think of
Speaker 1: these things whenever you first come to a country, like
Speaker 1: you don't need to go out of your way to
Speaker 1: invite people that you don't really know, and you know,
Speaker 1: to try and make them feel comfortable in the scenario
Speaker 1: of a team environment and things like that. And I
Speaker 1: do remember like he was like, no, I come out
Speaker 1: with us, like it was all cool. It's like him,
Speaker 1: Marley Williams and a few others, and yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just kind of it was a wild night. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say any details as to what happened
Speaker 1: in the night, but I do remember like that him
Speaker 1: having me there. I was really appreciate it above and
Speaker 1: it's something you don't need to do. But for him
Speaker 1: to just had me with his group and hanging out
Speaker 1: and like didn't have an issue with it or anything
Speaker 1: like that, and for someone he didn't really know at all,
Speaker 1: Like I look back on that and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would have made me feel as though I'm part
Speaker 1: of the team and I'm just, you know, another one
Speaker 1: of the boys, and you feel like you're you're confident
Speaker 1: to be friendly with everyone you know, because it is
Speaker 1: so isolating whenever you don't know any connections you're from
Speaker 1: a different country, you have no idea what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and for someone to do a little act like that
Speaker 1: means a lot to someone like me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine Dane Swan's sense of humor is
Speaker 2: a combo of kind of unassuming, dry, you know, Australian laughs.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that you would have got much of
Speaker 2: what he was joking about.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. There's so much. I'll tell the
Speaker 1: story about one of the first things whenever I came
Speaker 1: into the club, right, this is this is the early days,
Speaker 1: and this is like whenever the drug issue with a
Speaker 1: few of the players and stuff, and I was just
Speaker 1: kind of like all this was happening. I was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, this is a wild scenario. What the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on? But I remember if I was
Speaker 1: like introduced to the club, right to the teams, there's
Speaker 1: big team meeting and stuff, you know, and I like,
Speaker 1: I zero understanding of Australian culture and like what they did.
Speaker 1: And they'll go up and go hey, everyone, like we've
Speaker 1: got a new recruit. His name's Mason, and you know
Speaker 1: we're going to introduce him. Say, you know, he's from
Speaker 1: from Dallas, Texas. You know, he went talky, played basketball.
Speaker 1: We're going to now teach him, so you know, just
Speaker 1: get around him. And I remember like one of the
Speaker 1: players was like, and I think it was Swanny, it
Speaker 1: was just like speech speech speech, you know, like the
Speaker 1: typical Australian thing that you do is a bit of
Speaker 1: a joke. Well I didn't know that was a joke
Speaker 1: in Australian culture. So I kind of like stood up like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, like I'll give a little intro, a little bio,
Speaker 1: you know, and I like stood up and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just want to say hi, I'm Mason Cox. And
Speaker 1: everyone's just like sit the fuck down, sit out, and
Speaker 1: I was like, it's just good, good to meet y'all.
Speaker 1: Just great to be here, great to be involved. Just
Speaker 1: just sit in the corner, just shut up. That was
Speaker 1: That was one of my original I guess, coming to
Speaker 1: understanding Australian culture of taking the piss out of someone.
Speaker 2: That was almost like when we learned that Australians are
Speaker 2: the only ones that do hip hip.
Speaker 1: Hi, it is a very Australian thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I know, let's talk about you because we
Speaker 2: need to wrap things up. But going into the buy week,
Speaker 2: you headed over to Bali. How is your trip?
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, beautiful weather, massage pretty much every single day,
Speaker 1: nice lunch, breakfast, dinner, coffees every morning, sitting in the sun.
Speaker 2: Just to relax, refresh. It is.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important to switch off. It's a
Speaker 1: long year, as we mentioned before, and it's so good
Speaker 1: just to get away from football and like the Melbourne
Speaker 1: bubble of it, like it is every day you get
Speaker 1: someone that comes up and wants to ask you about
Speaker 1: it everywhere you go, right and it's so nice to
Speaker 1: just meet people from different backgrounds and different countries doing
Speaker 1: different things from online sales and e commerce and just
Speaker 1: it's kind of the Bali is kind of there like
Speaker 1: weird place of just everyone, just this multicultural melting pot
Speaker 1: of people that come in there and you know, come
Speaker 1: from all over the world. So it was interesting and
Speaker 1: awesome to like just meet new people do different things.
Speaker 1: You know. There was like a gym to us I
Speaker 1: got to do rehab there and then ice bass and
Speaker 1: saunas we got to do every single day. So it's
Speaker 1: one of those just really mentally and physically refreshing experiences
Speaker 1: over there and just to kind of get away from
Speaker 1: I guess the the micro or sorry, the micro causm
Speaker 1: that is AFL in Melbourne. It was nice to get
Speaker 1: away from it and I do feel a lot more refreshed.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to kind of get through this rehab and
Speaker 1: get back out to playing and helpfully. Yeah that's that's
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: You get noticed by all the Aussies over there.
Speaker 1: Oh you can tell someone's Australian right away. I was
Speaker 1: in this like there's a few times you go into
Speaker 1: the sauna and someone just walks up and goes, hey Mason.
Speaker 1: You're like, I didn't introduce myself and you just sit
Speaker 1: there and the other people around are like, who who,
Speaker 1: how do you know him? I kind of like they
Speaker 1: just find it weird. Yeah, I instantly you can tell
Speaker 1: that someone's Australian. I did. There was someone I was
Speaker 1: sitting there and I was talking to someone about Perth
Speaker 1: and they were from Perth and said, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Perth? Like, oh, it's quite isolated,
Speaker 1: and you kind of you go back and forth and
Speaker 1: you talked about Perth where you're like, oh, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like one big small country town. You have a
Speaker 1: little ball and had that conversation. Little did I know
Speaker 1: that the two people sitting next to me, we're like
Speaker 1: diehard Perth loving people, were just like so pissed at me.
Speaker 1: They're kind of backing Perth a little bit. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I had no idea. You gotta warm
Speaker 1: me tell me these things.
Speaker 2: So many people from Berth there because yeah, it's easy,
Speaker 2: like three hour fly yes, like catching the bus, cruise
Speaker 2: up there and give us an update on your injury,
Speaker 2: your injuries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so everything's pretty much held up by the MCL now,
Speaker 1: so can cut yourself all pasted past now ribs, feeling good, faces,
Speaker 1: feeling good from the cheekbone surgery or zygoma surgery. Saw
Speaker 1: the specialist with the MCL, and we start running tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So that's exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all kind of lined up. Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's four weeks and a little bit
Speaker 1: now this week, so we're going into four weeks plus now,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't want to put a time frame
Speaker 1: on it. I think a lot of that will depend
Speaker 1: on how we go tomorrow and over the next kind
Speaker 1: of week with running and how we pull up. But
Speaker 1: it's exciting to take one of those big steps forward
Speaker 1: now to be able to go, okay, cool, Now we
Speaker 1: can get into things that emulate a football game, right,
Speaker 1: Like sitting on a bike for an hour doesn't really
Speaker 1: emulate a football game, you know. Being able to go
Speaker 1: run on the track with everyone and be able to
Speaker 1: kind of do straight line running and stuff. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good positivity thing mentally to be like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: we are heading the direction. We were taking the steps
Speaker 1: to be able to see the other end of this thing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm excited for it. Man, It's going to
Speaker 1: be good. And you know, like I said, we're progressing,
Speaker 1: which is the important thing.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into the previews. We'll go Brisbane and Melbourne
Speaker 2: at the Gabba. I'm saying, rip to Melbourne on this one,
Speaker 2: all right, pee, I can't see him winning.
Speaker 1: Geez, that's rough. I would love to Melbourne went, but
Speaker 1: I think Brisbane's going to definitely take it at home.
Speaker 1: Brisbe's gonna go four straight. Are they back?
Speaker 2: I think they're back. I think they're very much back.
Speaker 1: We can officially say that they're back. Brisbane's back. Baby North.
Speaker 2: Melbourne versus the Western Bulldogs. The North keep going, keep competitive,
Speaker 2: have Western Bulldogs turned the corner. How do you see it?
Speaker 1: I want to go upset alone here. I want to
Speaker 1: go North against Western Bulldogs at.
Speaker 2: Marble checking North fans, won't you want? What want? You want?
Speaker 2: Your support talk that much about them.
Speaker 1: A little bit. But the thing is I've got friends
Speaker 1: there are Norse supporters, and they were talking shit to
Speaker 1: me so much at halftime. I had that many text messages,
Speaker 1: real quiet by the end of night. You wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Didn't text me back, didn't get back to me after
Speaker 1: the game. Weird how that happens. Yeah, now I'm on
Speaker 1: the North train. Man. Like the last two weeks, they've
Speaker 1: been very good. If they can just kind of get
Speaker 1: another quarter of good football in, well, they're going to win.
Speaker 1: I'm going to win their games.
Speaker 2: So I have to back in the Western Bulldogs on
Speaker 2: this one because it is like it's their home game
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, so both you know, Marvel House sitters
Speaker 2: whatever you call them, what do they home ground? Home ground?
Speaker 1: Marble?
Speaker 2: So I'll give it to the Bulldogs. I'd like to
Speaker 2: think that they have to and a bit of a
Speaker 2: corner and they can get a bit of a run on.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing their talent, just carry them through
Speaker 2: to the finals. See how they go. I'm going to
Speaker 2: go back. I'm going to give Brisbane my cock clock. Huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, Okay.
Speaker 2: Well you wait till you see what's coming up fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty games in here. Sydney versus Frio at the
Speaker 2: SCG Freo on the road again. As I said, Alice
Speaker 2: by Melbourne Perth, Sydney Perth Tazzy is a lineup on.
Speaker 1: Little road trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bit of a run that they've had
Speaker 2: and they're going to have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to put this as the cock clock,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's too obvious. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get a bit more of a different one.
Speaker 2: Too obvious. Freemantle good team Sydney.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. I just don't
Speaker 1: think Sydney with the dub for sure.
Speaker 2: I think the only team in the run home that
Speaker 2: will beat Sydney is Brisbane at the Gather.
Speaker 1: I reckon if they're honors Brisbane at the gather, If they're.
Speaker 2: As honors I think they are, I don't think they
Speaker 2: can get that game done. But for this one, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say Sydney so you're Sydney as well, gold Verse
Speaker 2: Collingwood in the Mason Cox Cup at People's First Stadium.
Speaker 2: Who are you tipping? You're tipping your boys or your.
Speaker 1: Lads the.
Speaker 2: Boys.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one's Callingwood, but now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tip tip Collingwood. Obviously it is up there at Gold
Speaker 1: Coast we get a little bit of warm weather after
Speaker 1: everyone's been on holiday. Probably in the Gold Coast we
Speaker 1: go back.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to might do the same thing
Speaker 1: as last week. Now I'm going to try to go up.
Speaker 1: I highly doubt they'll allow me to go up there though,
Speaker 1: I've got to do a bit of rehab back here.
Speaker 1: But I did go up last year, but I had
Speaker 1: to pay my own way to go up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, so that's that's how it works. Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll just go up for holiday.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm there to support people, even if it's
Speaker 1: out of my own pocket book. Back on tex yes,
Speaker 1: I did claim it. But I'm tipping Callingwood on this one.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Mark. I actually hear about Gold Coast.
Speaker 1: We haven't covered this. They're a new jumper idea. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen no they haven't well, haven't come out with it,
Speaker 1: but they're I think they're committing to citly saying they're
Speaker 1: going to revamp it, ye, which I'm excited for. We still,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, but maybe less mcdonald'sy there. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the colors are still going to be their colors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. You can change it a little bit
Speaker 1: to make it nicer.
Speaker 2: I think I reckon we'll draw one out, we'll draw
Speaker 2: one each and they.
Speaker 1: Should do they should do a little competition and then
Speaker 1: they should just have people vote on it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then Australia they'll put something, someone to put a
Speaker 1: dick on it all of a sudden that will win
Speaker 1: the go Okay, do we commit to this or not?
Speaker 1: It's guaranteed to happen.
Speaker 2: Two big sons for the balls we'll get there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with Collingwood. But it's a
Speaker 2: very interesting game. Gold Coast at home, tough, tough team
Speaker 2: Adelaide versus GWS. GWS are alternating wins and losses, so
Speaker 2: this one is coming off the loss, so they should
Speaker 2: get a win here. Now. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell Adelaide's doing because I keep going, Oh, Adelaide will
Speaker 2: win at home, and it turns out they lose a
Speaker 2: fair bit at home, so I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what the hell they're doing. I'm going to just say
Speaker 2: I'll go with my boys the GWS Giants for now, yeah,
Speaker 2: and hope that they get the job done.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Adelaide Adelaide Oval. This is a
Speaker 1: very fifty to fifty game. I feel like it could
Speaker 1: go either way, but I'll go home team and just
Speaker 1: to be different from me, because I don't like whenever
Speaker 1: we decide to do the same shit, unless it's Sydney,
Speaker 1: I feel like we should have our own opinion. So
Speaker 1: I'll go Adelaide Adelaide Oval. Who we got next?
Speaker 2: We've got Geelong versus.
Speaker 1: Love Geelong right now, I feel like every time you
Speaker 1: say Geelong it just comes with it.
Speaker 2: No, it's because I actually hate what they're doing, so
Speaker 2: I can't. My brain says that I've historically just locked
Speaker 2: Geelong in most weeks because they've been so good forever.
Speaker 2: But Geelong versus Essenon at the MCG, I don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell to expect. I kind of think Essendon can,
Speaker 2: you know, take a big step for Essendon and get
Speaker 2: the win here. I don't I don't know that Geelong
Speaker 2: is that good and they just lost Tom Hawkins. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well they haven't been that good. So yeah, and Essendon
Speaker 2: have like what do I go off? I probably have
Speaker 2: to go a form and the fact that it is
Speaker 2: technically at neutral territory for both teams, neutral neutral territory
Speaker 2: all the way over there at Cash they go to
Speaker 2: the MCG.
Speaker 1: We've been through this before. That's just the They can
Speaker 1: be upset about it, but either they choose financials or
Speaker 1: they choose their home ground. Yeah, well think one of
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 2: What you have to do, if you guys have to
Speaker 2: change it up, you have to go to Marvel. They
Speaker 2: get to get panelized by going to one of the
Speaker 2: best stadiums on the planet Earth. It's not that biggest.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to be going to Marble. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, you can't agree to that. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: say Essendon in this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go as well.
Speaker 2: It's different.
Speaker 1: Look, we've got something brewing here. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: here in a second that you're going to go.
Speaker 2: Game Saint Kilda v. Port at Marvel. I hope it's
Speaker 2: this game because they both kind of suck uh Port
Speaker 2: in the eighth and they really need to get the w.
Speaker 2: Saint Kilda have just let the season go. It's done.
Speaker 2: There are twenty points for the year after. You know,
Speaker 2: we kind of expected a bit early season. I was
Speaker 2: backing them in. They kind of burnt.
Speaker 1: Met a lot of hype going then finals last year.
Speaker 2: They burnt me plenty of times because I thought the
Speaker 2: one thing that they could bring was you know, pressure
Speaker 2: and consistency off the back of that. But it just
Speaker 2: hasn't materialized for the Saint Kilda Saints and they're just
Speaker 2: stuck down the bottom of the ladder. So I think
Speaker 2: they're going to stay there. Who you got this one though,
Speaker 2: They're going to stay there, but I Saints probably win
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: Wow, I stuff you. We're going tock lock of the week.
Speaker 1: What your boys? The port Adelood power Ken Henckley, get
Speaker 1: off his back. Adelaide Supporters, Port Island supporter get stopped.
Speaker 1: Ken Hinckley. We're going back for ten years, signing for
Speaker 1: ten years. He's gonna dominate this Port Adelaide. I got
Speaker 1: him win about sixty Oh screw it, Port Adelaide, baby,
Speaker 1: they're my team. Desides to those songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: Port Adelaide they're gonna get the dub at Marvel.
Speaker 2: So they lose by six seventy at home and win
Speaker 2: by care.
Speaker 1: They got a rally around their superstar that is Ken Hinckley.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't even know if Butters is playing
Speaker 1: this week, but put him down for five goals.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, he did hurt his shoulders. So
Speaker 2: we'll wait and see on that one. But okay, well
Speaker 2: we'll have fun with that one. We'll click that up
Speaker 2: when Port wins. Richmond v. Carlton, I think this one's
Speaker 2: probably a pretty easy one. Lynch out with another suspected
Speaker 2: hamsterem usually, so I'm going Carlton, who on an absolute
Speaker 2: tear at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go Carlton on this one. The mcg
Speaker 1: it's tough to look past him. I will say props
Speaker 1: to Richmond, though Dusty's three hundred. They did show up
Speaker 1: for a little bit of that and then it went
Speaker 1: real south, real quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what wasn't great was his postgame interview Dusties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us the rockdown for the rundown.
Speaker 2: Well, he just says he got asked like five different
Speaker 2: questions from Jack Rereewell and he just said the same
Speaker 2: answer five times. Dusty really overwhelmed at the moment. I
Speaker 2: like to thank everyone coming out, and it's like every
Speaker 2: single answer, Come on.
Speaker 1: What do you expect? Do you expect him all of
Speaker 1: a sudden to give a deep dive on his life
Speaker 1: on a three hundredth game. Yeah, No, he's not going
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 2: He's on out a stadium of like ninety something.
Speaker 1: You know what he's doing. You know he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: protecting all that. And then whenever he retires, he's going
Speaker 1: to actually probably open up and sell Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that many copies a book that he writes.
Speaker 2: He'd get that ghost written, wouldn't he.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but he's going to at least have
Speaker 1: all the information that people don't know about him. He
Speaker 1: never opens up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's smart marketing. Briton, Yeah, that's a smart marketing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People loved it. Anyway, He's got to know that
Speaker 2: they frosted. So many commentators are like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that was we'll talk about that forever, will we?
Speaker 1: Dusty's weak Dusty. He's the greatest big time player that's ever.
Speaker 2: Played, Undeniable, Undeniable, I'm not saying saying he's not the
Speaker 2: greatest big interviewer of all, don I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up, places to be.
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