WEBVTT - Australia’s ‘national shame’

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is this is the daily This is

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<v Speaker 1>the daily. Ohs oh, now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty ninth of April.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Zara, I'm Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>It's being labeled as Australia's National shame.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough isn't us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the message echoed by thousands of people it rallies

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<v Speaker 2>around the country following a wave of violence against women.

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<v Speaker 1>Violent men may have to be part of the solution.

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<v Speaker 1>You know someone who has been affected by domestic family

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<v Speaker 1>violence and genderbates violence and you need to step up

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<v Speaker 1>and do more.

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<v Speaker 2>So far this year, twenty seven women have been killed

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<v Speaker 2>in acts of gender based violence. Now, the country's Domestic

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<v Speaker 2>Violence Commissioner is convening a crisis meeting of leaders from

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<v Speaker 2>across the country to discuss what to do next and

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<v Speaker 2>how to combat the rising rates of men's violence again women.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's Deep Dive, we're going to discuss the context

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<v Speaker 2>of this issue, what the government is saying, what we

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<v Speaker 2>heard from the rallies over the weekend, and what comes

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<v Speaker 2>next in this conversation. But for Sam, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Headlines, Australia has committed another one hundred million dollars towards

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine's war efforts. With the assistance package announced by Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Minister Richard Miles in his visit to Ukraine over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes Australia's total contributions since Russia's invasion of Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>to eight hundred and eighty million dollars. As part of

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<v Speaker 1>his trip, Miles also visited Poland, where he discussed Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>participation in a multinational program to train Ukrainian armed forces personnel.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK, Iraq has criminalized same sex relationships, introducing

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<v Speaker 2>a maximum of a fifteen year prison sentence if found guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>According to a copy of the law scene by Reuters,

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<v Speaker 2>the law is designed to quote protect Iraqi society from

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<v Speaker 2>moral depravity and was backed by Iraq's large conservative coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>The law also imposes a one to three year prison

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<v Speaker 2>sentence for anyone who changes their quote biological gender.

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<v Speaker 1>The UK has predicted a more than fifty percent increase

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<v Speaker 1>in strokes by twenty thirty five. That's according to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Stroke Association. It expects the number of strokes will

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<v Speaker 1>increase from one hundred thousand to over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand, and will set the National Health Service back

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<v Speaker 1>almost one hundred and forty four billion Australian dollars. The

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<v Speaker 1>chief executive of the Stroke Association said the demand will

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<v Speaker 1>quote be unsustainable by twenty thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>And today's good news. A new study has found that

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<v Speaker 2>conservation projects and investments are slowing the overall decline of biodiversity.

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<v Speaker 2>Published in the Journal of Science, the study found that

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds of conservation efforts either improved the state of

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<v Speaker 2>biodiversity or at least slow declines. The study calls for

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<v Speaker 2>conservation efforts to be scaled.

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<v Speaker 1>Up in order to meet global targets.

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<v Speaker 2>This deep dive is going to include discussions about domestic

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<v Speaker 2>and family violence. If you or anyone you know needs help,

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<v Speaker 2>you can reach out to one eight hundred respect on

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<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred seven three seven seven three to two.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the last few weeks, the national conversation has been

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<v Speaker 2>dominated by calls for greater action to protect women and

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<v Speaker 2>girls from gender based violence. Now. This culminated over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend in national rallies that were held across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>with PM Anthony Albanesi even joining protesters in Canberra yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and Zara.

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<v Speaker 1>This is obviously a massive issue but before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to what the response needs to be or what's being

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<v Speaker 1>called for, can you set out in really clear terms

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<v Speaker 1>for us what exactly the state of play is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So, at least twenty seven women that we know

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<v Speaker 2>of have died in Australia in twenty twenty four in

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<v Speaker 2>violent attacks. And the reason we know this is because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a research project called Counting Dead Women and that

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<v Speaker 2>collates all of these figures in one place on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the twenty seven women so far, so we're in

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<v Speaker 2>April as we speak. The number of deaths that we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen so far this year represents a significant increase

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<v Speaker 2>from the same time period last year in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So the numbers vary again because it can sometimes be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty difficult with reporting around these crimes. But the ABC

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<v Speaker 2>last week said eleven more women had died violently in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four compared to the same time period last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Even since that article was published, another woman has been murdered,

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<v Speaker 2>so that figure is now out of date. Put another way,

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<v Speaker 2>until recently, an average of one woman was being killed

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<v Speaker 2>a week. Now that average has risen to almost one

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<v Speaker 2>every four days. And as people were marching in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets over the weekend, calling from an end to this

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<v Speaker 2>gender based violence. A Perth man was charged with murder

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<v Speaker 2>after he allegedly assaulted the woman he lived with and

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<v Speaker 2>set fire to their whole. Now, that story that was

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<v Speaker 2>reported over the weekend came after a particularly horrific week

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<v Speaker 2>that included news that twenty eight year old Molly Ticehurst

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<v Speaker 2>had been found dead at her home with her former partner,

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<v Speaker 2>who was out on bail and who breached an apprehended

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<v Speaker 2>violence order was the person charged with her murder. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we won't go through each of the incidents that have

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<v Speaker 2>happened this year, but if you do want to know more,

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<v Speaker 2>you can look at destroy the Joints Counting Dead Women

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<v Speaker 2>page and again that's become a resource that lots of

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<v Speaker 2>news outlets have started to rely on to track these deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>Sos Ovia said, there is a lot of media attention

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<v Speaker 1>on the issue of gender based violence at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we only had to look at the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the rallies over the weekend in every capital city,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is actually been done about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the Domestic Family and Sexual Violence Commissioner, her

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<v Speaker 2>name's MICHAELA. Cronin She's called a crisis meeting for next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's in response to the rising rates of gender

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<v Speaker 2>based violence that we are seeing reported now. The meeting

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<v Speaker 2>is designed to bring together decision makers, academics and key

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<v Speaker 2>organizations who are all working in this space to try

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what comes next after this national conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know that Teran Chaula, who we spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>on the pod last week, Amani Hater, and Alison Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>who have all lost women in their families due to

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<v Speaker 2>gender based violence, they'll also attend to the meeting, so

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<v Speaker 2>there will be people with lived experience there to inform

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation. And the National Roundtable is specifically looking at

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<v Speaker 2>ways to deliver the federal government's National Plan to End

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<v Speaker 2>Violence against Women and Children. Now, this is the strategy

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<v Speaker 2>that is at the centerpiece of how the government is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to respond to this issue, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to talk about what that strategy aimes to do

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<v Speaker 2>because it's an extremely lofty ambition. It aims to eradicate

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<v Speaker 2>gendered violence against women and girls over the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's abundantly obvious to anyone paying attention that, based on

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<v Speaker 2>the statistics that I mentioned before, We are not getting

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<v Speaker 2>any closer to that goal, but in fact we are

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<v Speaker 2>going backward if year on year those stats are getting worse,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the government has a very big job ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of them if they want to get close to this goal.

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<v Speaker 2>At the rallies over the weekend, the participants issued five

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<v Speaker 2>key demands, and I'll just quickly run through them. So

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<v Speaker 2>number one the declaration of a national emergency. Number two,

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<v Speaker 2>mandatory victim blaming prevention training for police, media and first responders.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three, alternative reporting options for violence victims. Number four

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<v Speaker 2>the media to wait forty eight hours before identifying violence victims.

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<v Speaker 2>And number five for the government to give better, more

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<v Speaker 2>sustainable funding for organizations with five year minimum commitments.

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<v Speaker 1>And how has the government responded to the spike in

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<v Speaker 1>deaths this year and their plan going forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, As I said at the top, Anthony Albernezi actually

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<v Speaker 2>walked with protesters at the rallies held over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and before the rally he wrote on x violence against

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<v Speaker 2>women is not a problem that women should have to solve.

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<v Speaker 2>Governments need to do better, men need to step up

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<v Speaker 2>and as a society we must do better. We know

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<v Speaker 2>there is so much more to do and we will

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<v Speaker 2>keep working. And we've had basically similar sentiments reflected across

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<v Speaker 2>the government and from Anthony Albernesi's ministers. We had the

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General Mark Dreyfus saying last week that it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for men to step up to combat gender based violence,

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<v Speaker 2>and Minister for Women Katie Gallaher saying that this is

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<v Speaker 2>a crisis and that women don't feel safe, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>saying things like fifty percent of the population in this

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<v Speaker 2>country have to think about what it means to park

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<v Speaker 2>your car in a dark space, and what it means

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<v Speaker 2>to walk by yourself, and what it means to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And if we heard from the opposition on this

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<v Speaker 1>and is stretching across the aisle, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is one of those rare moments where

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<v Speaker 2>we are seeing complete bipartisanship. We've had Opposition leader Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Dudden echoing the calls for greater actions, saying society is

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<v Speaker 2>failing women at the moment. But it is very clear,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, that the dial isn't shifting, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to take a bipart as an effort

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<v Speaker 2>to rethink the ways that we are addressing this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sam, I've been doing a lot of reading here

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<v Speaker 2>because I think there's been so much discourse about how

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<v Speaker 2>we're failing, how we're not doing any better. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>yet to see many people come up with a solution

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to teach boys and men to respect

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<v Speaker 2>women more and that that will end gendered violence. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the most productive pieces that I read,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll throw it in our show notes in case

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<v Speaker 2>anyone wants to do some further reading on this, was

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<v Speaker 2>something that gender violence expert Jess Hill wrote, which was

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that the government basically need to transform

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they are approaching this issue and start

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<v Speaker 2>from scratch with a completely different strategy. And she wrote

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<v Speaker 2>this full long paper with Professor Michael Salter, but then

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<v Speaker 2>she also published something in The Guardian that was basically

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<v Speaker 2>an abridged version, and she goes through step by step

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<v Speaker 2>what she believes needs to be done. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone feeling particularly helpless after the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks and what we've seen and what we've heard, I

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<v Speaker 2>think something like this can be rather helpful in thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about solutions because a lot of people are angry a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people want to do better, but we need

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<v Speaker 2>to actually walk the walk, and we need to see

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<v Speaker 2>the government lay out a very clear plan of how

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<v Speaker 2>they actually want to eradicate this gender based violence, because

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<v Speaker 2>what's being done at the moment clearly is not working.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and we'll put that link in today's show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>And just once again, if you need any help, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know anyone that needs any help, you can reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to one eight hundred respect on one eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three seven seven, three to two. That's all I've

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<v Speaker 1>got time for today. We'll speak to you again tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda

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