1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's back. And I never thought I'd see Donald 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Trump dancing with the village people, but my eyes. Jonathan 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Kurzley is joining us now from the US Channel nine's 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: US correspondent. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, Jonathan, welcome most. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Clay LESSA good morning to your and to all your listeners. 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Now Donald Trump is officially president of the United States. Again. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Did not think i'd also hear the words he's the 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: first convicted felon to sit as. 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: President from two point zero it's here. Yeah, history has 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: been made on so many fronts, the first convicted felon 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: to go into the oval office and also for the 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: second president to have serviton loss and come back to win. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: Another teen is sworn in inside the Capitol rotunder a 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: much smaller, much more reduced crowds than what is normal 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: for these inauguration ceremonies. Normally there's hundreds of thousands of 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: people packing the National Mall. Yeah, with the ceremony taking 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: to the Capitol this time very different inside, but still 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: doesn't change any of the facts that Donald Trump is 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: now a Commander in check of the United States of 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: America and he's very quickly got to work. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: My here in Perth, we have a straight near the 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: river called billionaires Row these days, but there was a 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: billionaires row at the inauguration as well. There's a few 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: big names there, yeah, a few. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: F few billionaires, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon, Mark, Jeff Bezos. It 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: was essentially the rich of the rich in amongst the 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: most powerful man in the world. And that's what Donald 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: trumpet surrounded himself with. Essentially since he won't the election 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: back in November that he has had the tech giants 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: and America's billionaires essentially front and center wanting his attention, 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: and they were front and center at the inauguration today. 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: Apple CEO Tim Cook also in amongst it as well. So, look, 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: this is the crowd that Donald Trump has now surrounded 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: himself with. Normally those seats would be reserved for party loyalists, 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: those close to the president and family members alike. But 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has not only chosen to surround himself with family, 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: but he's chosen to surround himself by well well. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Has that a sign of how much input these people 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: are likely to have on his presidency. 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: It's a sign of how much input they're wanting to 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: have and certainly how much they believe a man who 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: they think can reform the economy, could very well help 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: their own businesses. They see him as one of their own, 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: a businessman at heart, are worried about increasing personal wealth 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 3: as well as business wealth. And that's exactly what we've seen. 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: I mean, Elon Musk was the first to flock towards 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: him and give him such an overwhelming show of support, 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: and we've seen him Elon must speak today in front 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: of crowds here in Washington, DC, dancing around the stage 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: and something is chest and declaring that America is back. 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: I think what you're seeing too with all of this 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: is this is a very clear sign. This is the 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: direction that the wealth of America wants to take America in. 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: Joe Biden had warned of an oligarchy running this country, 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: and I think what you saw was image representing those 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: words on show today. 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've live in a very different world there, don't we? Mate? 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Was everything moved inside? Was it about the cold? Really? 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: Was it about security? What do you think? 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I think initially, obviously Donald Trump has said 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: publicly it was about cold. I mean you have to 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: factor into was there a possibility that he may well 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: have been concerned about would use crowd sizes. I mean, yes, 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: we've been in Washington, DC for a few days now 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: and there's plenty of Donald Trump's supporters. But Cauncy, mind 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: back to two thousand and nine inauguration of Barack Obama, 68 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: when there were some one million people estimated to be 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: packing the National Mall. And Donald Trump had the issues 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: back in twenty seventeen when he said it was the 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: largest crowd ever and quite simply was. Look he has 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: said publicly, He has said publicly, this is about the cold. 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: As I speak to you now, we're sitting at probably 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: about minus six minor seven degrees selsius here in Washington, DC, 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: a little bit of a breathe in the air, keeping 76 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: things fairly nippy. I'm pretty sure my face fell off 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: half an hour later. That's not important right now, exactly, Jonathan. 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: He said he's got straight to work. What are the 79 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: first things on his agenda. 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: He's going to make it all about immigration. Essentially, he 81 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: has we're seeing law enforcement already down at the US 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Mexico border at El Paso in Texas, essentially saying that 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: anybody crosses illegally will be prosecuted. This is part of 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: what he calls his remaining Mexico policy. He's essentially said 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: he's going to shut that border. He's made gender a 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: big issue, declaring around trans rites that America will only 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: identify male and female. He's declared that essentially he's going 88 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: to deal with a whole range of quality issues that 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: he's going to sign in a raft of presidential orders 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: that could be as many as two hundred and the 91 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: first twenty four hours or so. He's setting himself a 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: monstrous task. But with Donald Trump, everything is visual, everything 93 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: is about perception. So make no mistake, he's going to 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: make sure that the next couple of weeks it's about 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: television pictures for him. He's essentially already said that there's 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: going to be major immigration cracked outs, and that's what 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: we're seeing already through very quickly. So he's going to 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: want to show the American public and the world that 99 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: he's back. That's what essentially he was declaring. As we 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: hear some music, a little bit of dance with somebody 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: waving past me at the moment, Donald Trump declaring that 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: he's back, that America is back, and that this is 103 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: a golden age. The question remains, though, isn't going to 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 3: be as shiny as he says it will the gloss were. 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: Off, Will it be as shiny as his cryptocurrency? How 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: with all of that going on, does he get time 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: to launch that? 108 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: Well? Exactly, I mean. And that's another aspect he's embraced 109 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: in this heck world, is the idea of cryptocurrency. Again, 110 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: so much of what Donald Trump does is about wealth, 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: it is about finances, and he has embraced the crypto 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: industry in a massive way, launching that sort of mean 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: coin a couple of days ago. But now he has 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: to get to work. He promised the American people he 115 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: would do a lot. He didn't promise them mean coins. 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: He promised them actions on the economy. And that doesn't 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: mean making his personal wealth bigger. It means making the 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: lives of the Americans better. So now will be on 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: does he do that? And can he achieve that? And how? 120 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of changing his mind on things like he did 121 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: on cryptocurrency, I've been a little intrigued about his involvement 122 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: with TikTok. Wasn't he the one pushing to have it removed? 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: He wanted it banned, And now he says, we've got 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: to say TikTok So look, essentially he's gone and had 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: conversations with China's president Shi Jingping, where he says they 126 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: discussed TikTok TikTok ceo in amongst the proceedings and invited 127 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: to the events. And what you're saying is Donald Trump 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: embraced TikTok, he wanted it back up and running for 129 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: his inauguration. But what TikTok did was essentially play the 130 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: American public, It's one hundred and seventy million users in 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: a giant political game to save its own skin. And 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: what happened was Donald Trump blinked. So whether we see 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: an executive order from him in relation to that, well 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: that remains to be seen specifically yet. But he made 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: it clear yesterday. TikTok must be so remarkable for somebody 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: who said it shouldn't. 137 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see his TikTok dancing videos 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: with the Village people. 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: With the village So he's done the tiktop flip flop 140 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. That's so bizarre, and we did 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: mention the village people. That's bizarre it itself. 142 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: God, even. 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: Get your dance moves out, guys, going viral. 144 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Extra village person all right, every village has an idiot. 145 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: As I say, Jonathan, thank you so much for chatting 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: to us this morning. Interesting to talk to you and 147 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the listeners. 148 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: Yes by