WEBVTT - Thriving Through Perimenopause. Should You be Taking Creatine? Why Strict Diets Don't Work Longterm.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you in your late thirties, forties, or maybe even fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are, chances are you've heard of Perry the

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<v Speaker 1>ten or so years prior to metopause in which hormonal

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<v Speaker 1>changes can play absolute havoc on your body, on your sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and on your mood. So today we are very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to share that Nutrition Couch has got you covered with

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<v Speaker 1>our latest ebook release called The Perry Plan, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we share what it is and why this research can

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<v Speaker 1>help you thrive through your Perie years. Hi, I'm Leanne

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<v Speaker 1>Will and I'm Davie Barrow and every week we keep

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<v Speaker 1>you up to date with our bi weekly podcast, The

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<v Speaker 1>Nutrition Couch, which gives you everything that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know in the world of nutrition and health. So as

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<v Speaker 1>well as Perry, today we chat about a supplement called

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<v Speaker 1>creatine and why this might be interesting for women's health.

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<v Speaker 1>And our listener question is all about strict diets and

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<v Speaker 1>specifically why do they or do they not always work out? So, Susie,

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<v Speaker 1>the Peri chat is a very interesting one because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ladies, I mean, it's not something even as

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<v Speaker 1>I went through a UNI ten plus years ago now,

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<v Speaker 1>it was never even mentioned, like they never even mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>perimenopause or they mentioned menopause equals HRT equals that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know. So it's definitely an area that

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<v Speaker 1>even as dietitians we absolutely need to upskill in. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit more noise and chatter online recently.

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<v Speaker 1>We're is great, but it's still a very misunderstand area

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of ladies until they knee deep into

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<v Speaker 1>perial into those menopause all years where they've got the

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<v Speaker 1>abdominal fat, the mood changes, the energy levels change, then

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<v Speaker 1>they go, oh, hold on, something's not right here. So

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to have a great discussion about the science

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<v Speaker 1>behind Perry and why our new e book, The Perry

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<v Speaker 1>Plan can help so many of our listeners out today.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to pass over to you because this

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely your area of expertise one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it was when a few of the

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<v Speaker 2>female led media themselves were in their forties and going

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<v Speaker 2>through these changes that they were like, what is going

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<v Speaker 2>on and why have we not heard about this? So

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<v Speaker 2>Perry technically is the ten or so years prior to menopause,

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<v Speaker 2>which is actually the last menstrual period, so juditional, we

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<v Speaker 2>only spoke about metapause, when actually that's a very distinct

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<v Speaker 2>point in time. It's more so those ten or so

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<v Speaker 2>prior years in which there's significant hormonal shoes. Basically as

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<v Speaker 2>the body gets ready to stop reproducing.

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<v Speaker 1>An estrogen levels drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the reason it's so relevant is that has such

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<v Speaker 2>profound impact on our body composition and in particular, our

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<v Speaker 2>metabolism because lean estrogen is highly protective of weight gun

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<v Speaker 2>and potentially particularly centrally, which is why women in their

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<v Speaker 2>late thirties, even forties and fifties will notice a thickening

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<v Speaker 2>around their waste area and gaining weight in places they

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<v Speaker 2>never had previously when they hadn't had to work so

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<v Speaker 2>hard at their weight, and all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're five ten, fifteen, twenty kilos heavy, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on? I haven't really changed my lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>so significantly. So certainly there hasn't been a huge amount

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<v Speaker 2>of specific information. There's a number of sort of podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>and media personalities speaking about it, but certainly they're not

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<v Speaker 2>giving the dietary specification and evidence space that we would

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<v Speaker 2>want people to be getting in terms of looking after

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<v Speaker 2>their metabolism as we go into those years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's also, like anything, you know, traditionally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going back thirty forty fifty years, most of the medical

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<v Speaker 2>profession was driven by males, so probably they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>an overall huge interest in these years of a woman's

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<v Speaker 2>life and optimizing health and well being, whereas now there's

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<v Speaker 2>a much higher contingent of females who are interested in

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<v Speaker 2>this area. But also as we live longer lives, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really looking to age positively, because you know, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to be, you know, fifty sixty retired carrying a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of weight, whereas if people are now living to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ninety, you certainly don't want to be twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>kilos heavier in those years because you haven't proactively taken

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<v Speaker 2>control of those hormones. So the first thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>say is that if you are in your late thirties

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<v Speaker 2>forties and have noticed that there's been a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a change in your cycle, they're getting heavier, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>as regular, but certainly if you're starting to feel not great,

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<v Speaker 2>you're chronically tired, fatigued, you are moody, getting night sweats,

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<v Speaker 2>not sleeping well, your skins, it's she these are all

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<v Speaker 2>signs that you could be in those pairy changes. And

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<v Speaker 2>to give you an idea of why you have to

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<v Speaker 2>really seek out a medical professional who is skilled in

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<v Speaker 2>this area. I myself went and had some bloods done

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<v Speaker 2>because I usually have low iron stores and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really tired, like it has to be low iron.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in my mid forties and my mum went through

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<v Speaker 2>menopause mid forties, so obviously there's a strong correlation there.

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<v Speaker 2>And she looked at my bloods, which were actually all normal,

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<v Speaker 2>so there were no stars on my estrogen progesterone levels.

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<v Speaker 2>And the GP looked and she said, oh, no, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not tired because you're iron slow. You're tired because you're

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<v Speaker 2>estrogen's low. And I said, it hasn't come up, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said it's still relatively low. So you really have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a health professional, whether it's a female GP,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's an a endocrinologist, whether it's a gynecologist who

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<v Speaker 2>has an interest in positive aging and is not just

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<v Speaker 2>interested in ticking the box on menopause and really understands

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<v Speaker 2>that a gradual decline in estrogen will have a profound

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<v Speaker 2>effect on how you feel because a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>this is managing it closely with the doctors to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you optimize homoe levels, that you have the

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<v Speaker 2>right management and treatment of some of the symptoms, in

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<v Speaker 2>particular the hot sweats and the poor sleep which affects

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<v Speaker 2>so many of us, and profound mood changes. And hence

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<v Speaker 2>was why I wrote the Pery Plan. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had been wanting to get this book published for over

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<v Speaker 2>twelve months. It was so difficult to even get someone interested,

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<v Speaker 2>And in the end I said to you, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it as an ebook because the women

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm working with want this information now. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just as much about proactively avoiding weight gain as it

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<v Speaker 2>is in managing perry and also getting weight off if

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<v Speaker 2>you have gained it. So certainly for anyone even in

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<v Speaker 2>your late thirties, you finish having kids and you're really

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<v Speaker 2>looking to age well and keeping control of your weight

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<v Speaker 2>and want to prevent that creep. It's really written and

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<v Speaker 2>given a background on what is perry, What are these

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<v Speaker 2>hormonal changes? How can you take control? What is the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to eat? Because what we are learning is

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<v Speaker 2>that that entire peri menopausal state is basically a period

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<v Speaker 2>of chronic information for a number of our body systems,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why women are tired. It's just why we

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<v Speaker 2>start to have issues with blood glucose regulation in cholesterol.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all tied in and there's so many different things

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<v Speaker 2>you can do from a diet perspective, which isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>about weight loss, but it is about optimizing things like

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<v Speaker 2>your bone health, your mood, your inflammation in the body,

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<v Speaker 2>your sleep. So that's what we've covered in the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Leanne, you and I are dieticians. We're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to write strict diets because we know that strict

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<v Speaker 2>restrictive diets don't work. This is a lifestyle plan which

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<v Speaker 2>is designed to be implemented for anyone in those years

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<v Speaker 2>who is looking to optimize metabolism as they get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit older, keep on top of their hormones and

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<v Speaker 2>basically age as positively as possible, which, whether we like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, does have to do with.

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<v Speaker 1>Our body weight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not about being skinny and aesthetically you know,

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<v Speaker 2>aspiring to ideals in society. For me, it's about my women,

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<v Speaker 2>my clients feeling good in their body and generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not eating well and they're gaining weight, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel good in their body, and that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult to turn up every day and be their

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<v Speaker 2>best selves. So it's about taking that control back. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of information about mindset, how to approach

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<v Speaker 2>diet and exercise through these years, and how to create

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<v Speaker 2>a foundation nutritional intake for you that will optimize your

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<v Speaker 2>metabolism keep on top of weight gain, but also your

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<v Speaker 2>health as you go through those years. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>So check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you're a superstar and it's helped so many ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and we think a big thank you Sallyanne,

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<v Speaker 2>and particularly David who helps us get all of these

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<v Speaker 2>low pay rate, hopefull you sort him out the end.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course our beautiful Bronti who helps us with

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<v Speaker 2>all of our content. She has helped me format and

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<v Speaker 2>get the book ready in a really short amount of time,

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you to her. She helps us here on

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<v Speaker 2>the nutrition couch in the background enormously, so massive thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, our news item of this week is not unrelated

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<v Speaker 2>because we're constantly scanning the media for what's doing the rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was an article that came up on in

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Herald last week with renowned health journalist Sarah Berry

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<v Speaker 2>had pendit about the use of creating in women and

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<v Speaker 2>muscle preserving muscle mass, particularly as they get older. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if you sent it to me or

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<v Speaker 2>I sent it to you and you said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of this before. So creating is a supplement

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<v Speaker 2>that we've used in sports nutrition for many years, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that when it comes to sprint type athletes, creating helps

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<v Speaker 2>the muscle cell regenerate energy quickly, so it can enhance

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<v Speaker 2>performance in sprint type events. So people like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>meters sprinters and swimmers will often use creatin to optimize performance,

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<v Speaker 2>even soccer players who need to do short bursts of

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<v Speaker 2>high intensity exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>And also we use it.

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<v Speaker 2>In the gym, so a lot of my teenage athletes

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<v Speaker 2>in the past or elite level rugby players rugby league

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<v Speaker 2>will use Creatan to improve their muscles recovery, when muscle

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<v Speaker 2>when weight training, so they can recover more efficiently and

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<v Speaker 2>basically livet heavier for longer, get stronger, gain muscle weight. Now, traditionally,

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<v Speaker 2>when we've given Creating as a sports specific supplement you

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<v Speaker 2>we used to load the muscle and then maintain a dose,

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<v Speaker 2>and we used to do six weeks on of Creating

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks off because it does store in the body

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<v Speaker 2>and can cause kidney damage if you don't cycle. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that has been used for many years as a sports

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<v Speaker 2>specific prescription, but the latest evidence is really looking at

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<v Speaker 2>it for use in postmenopausal women because we know that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest issues metabolically in those ages of

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<v Speaker 2>forties and beyond is we lose muscle mass. And we

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<v Speaker 2>lose muscle mass physiologically just naturally as we get older,

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<v Speaker 2>but also a lot of us are now sitting down

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more and we're not actively lifting weights and

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<v Speaker 2>doing resistance training. Now, muscle mass is the metabolically active tissue.

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<v Speaker 2>It burns calories, So the less muscle mass you have,

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<v Speaker 2>not only does it have a profound effect on how

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<v Speaker 2>strong your body is and how agile is we get older.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it preserves metabolism. So if you're losing

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<v Speaker 2>muscle mass over the years, you basically need to eat

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<v Speaker 2>less and less, which isn't ideal for those of us

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<v Speaker 2>who like to eat more and more. So maintaining muscle

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<v Speaker 2>mass is one of the best, most proactive things we

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<v Speaker 2>can do to preserve metabolism as we get older and

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<v Speaker 2>keep our bodies fitt and strong in agile for as

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<v Speaker 2>long as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So the growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Evidence out there is that creating can be particularly effective

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<v Speaker 2>in preserving strength in women and supporting muscle mass in

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<v Speaker 2>particularly those postmenopausal years when estrogen levels are much lower,

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<v Speaker 2>and again it's easier to gain abdominal fat around the

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<v Speaker 2>middle and lose muscle mass. We don't have a protocol

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<v Speaker 2>because I just said to Liam before we hopped on today,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you cycle it? Because my understanding your creation

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<v Speaker 2>has always been that you have to have a wash

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<v Speaker 2>out period. We're not sure of that, so we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be very clear. This is early research, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you do have an interest in gaining muscle tissue, you're

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<v Speaker 2>actively working out in the gym, you work with an

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<v Speaker 2>exercise physiologist, a personal trainer. It isn't a bad idea

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<v Speaker 2>to get an opinion of a sports dietitian or keep

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes out for that because certainly in the past

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<v Speaker 2>we've also used some things like amino acids and even

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<v Speaker 2>creating for brain injury patients in recovery. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to hear a lot more in this space

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<v Speaker 2>about proactive ways that busy women can and optimize muscle mass.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, yeah, there'll be growing evidence around creating,

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't want to give a prescription for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something to certainly pay attention to. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>some murmurings around about whether we will to use it

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<v Speaker 2>as a supplement for women in their postmatopause or years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And what we know from creatine is, as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, it's very popular within our athletes now. Traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>I have used it a little bit for particularly my

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<v Speaker 1>vegan or plant based ladies who are looking to gain

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<v Speaker 1>strength and gain muscle because what we know that you

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<v Speaker 1>can eat enough creatine. Absolutely, creatine is mostly it's found

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<v Speaker 1>in animal based products. So we're talking about milk, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about fish, we're talking about red meats and white

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<v Speaker 1>meats like chicken as well. So if you are somebody

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<v Speaker 1>following a plant based start, it is very very very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to get in enough creatine, and particularly is women.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't eat anywhere near as much meat or protein

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<v Speaker 1>is what males do. So I find that it's generally

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<v Speaker 1>the males that are taking creatine supplements, but it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the females that will benefit the most from it, and

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you're following more of a plant based lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now the research is really interesting, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the times the protocols are either

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<v Speaker 1>a big loading dose or you can actually take it

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<v Speaker 1>for just a smaller amount regularly and consistently. My Happy

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<v Speaker 1>David takes it and he takes just a small amount

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of grams every day or when he remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can also do the big loading dose for

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's from memory across about three to five days,

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<v Speaker 1>where you take a much larger amount, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to take it regularly or consistently long term

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And the big thing with creatine is as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it tends to hold a little bit of water weight

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<v Speaker 1>on you as well, so if you really sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like obsessed with the scale or weighing yourself regularly, just

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<v Speaker 1>be mindful of that your weight will go up, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll just be your body retaining that little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>fluid as well. So I think it's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>emerging area. And like you mentioned, as we get older,

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to lose muscle mass. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing and why potentially it may be helpful in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, women fifty plus as well as they tend

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<v Speaker 1>to eat less protein, Like as we get older, our

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<v Speaker 1>appetite drops down, our taste buds drop off. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking you know, seventies, eighties, nineties, not really fifties. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know from doing a lot of work within the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital system and with malnutrition, it's potentially a supplement that

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<v Speaker 1>could benefit the elderly as well, just because they go

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<v Speaker 1>towards more of a tea and toast diet. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>have like a coppersuit for dinner, Like, their protein amounts

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<v Speaker 1>that they actually get in are so low. Plus also

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<v Speaker 1>functionally that they've decreased. A lot of them a maul narration,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them aren't actually doing any exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone. The resistance based training that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>support their muscle mass. So I think it's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>growth area. But like we said, we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>exact protocol to recommend an exact amount for now, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like a watch this space. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you are interested in you're a female, and particularly if

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<v Speaker 1>you are taking more of a plant based diet, I

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<v Speaker 1>would absolutely suggest linking up with a sports dietitian to

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<v Speaker 1>really get you on the right amount or the right

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<v Speaker 1>dosal protocol to benefit you long term as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>then SUSI that brings us to our last section, which

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to talk about some popular diets. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to name them, but you know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of very restrictive diets and our listening question was really

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<v Speaker 1>around why do these diets work or why do they

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<v Speaker 1>not work? And I think, like anything, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one hundred percent strict, most diets will work.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's when they don't work that is a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>when you fall off them because they are actually so restrictive.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I did a call with a lady this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and she was saying to me she was exploring the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of joining my coaching service and I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>to her, like, tell me about your background, on your past,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, look, I've tried every diet. The only

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<v Speaker 1>one that actually worked for me was like, quit sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, I stuck to it religiously. I lost

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<v Speaker 1>all this weight and it was excellent. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to challenge you because I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't successful. If you've now fallen off the wagon,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not putting sugar anymore, you've regained the ten kilos

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<v Speaker 1>that you're lost. I would actually say that that was

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<v Speaker 1>another unsuccessful diet. And she was quite for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, yeah, you're right actually, And so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, a successful diet is something that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do long term. And a lot of these popular diets

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<v Speaker 1>are so restrictive, but people think they're successful because I

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<v Speaker 1>lose five, ten, twenty plus kilos, But if when you

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<v Speaker 1>come off the diet, if the weight comes back on again,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's not actually success long term. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you feel very strongly like I do around

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<v Speaker 1>these restrictive diets as well, because although you might find

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<v Speaker 1>them successful in the short term, you don't actually maintain

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<v Speaker 1>their results long term.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. You know, they do the diet rounds. They tend

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the best seller list. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a client doing an eight hundred calorie diet. Some

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<v Speaker 2>will do you know, lose ten kilos in ten weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But the actual question that I had had from a

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<v Speaker 2>few of my clients were I've bought those diets as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't work for me. You know, I see

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<v Speaker 2>all these success stories online, but I got no weight loss.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I just wanted to specifically mention in that

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<v Speaker 2>context was because I think there's two scenarios. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where they lose on them but then put it

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<v Speaker 2>all back on again, which is an issue metabolically because

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<v Speaker 2>we know they've probably lost muscle mass and it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it harder each time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually not successful because it's not sustainable. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>the other issue, or what I see and I specifically

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<v Speaker 2>see with a c or with a client recently, was

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<v Speaker 2>that she said I bought them and it just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>work for me, and why was that? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is if you have any degree of meta dysfunction,

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<v Speaker 2>so for example, you may have instun resistance if you

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<v Speaker 2>start to play around with calories, so for example, an

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred calorie which was grossly inadequate, and then also exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>that disparity between calories and calories app is just too great,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you have insulin resistance, it will just be

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<v Speaker 2>making it worse the lower the carbohydrate comes. So you

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<v Speaker 2>might get a kill or two initially, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work. And what that tells me, Leanne, is that

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<v Speaker 2>those diets are not programming the body to burn more efficiently,

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<v Speaker 2>they're basically starving the muscle. And so if you've had

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<v Speaker 2>a history of diets or been a chronic overexerciser and

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<v Speaker 2>under eater, certainly in both of those examples of that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of very restricted calorie intake, it will make that

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<v Speaker 2>metabolic inefficiency even worse, which is why it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>for you at all. And then, of course, as you

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<v Speaker 2>and I know, we've got massive work to do to

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<v Speaker 2>rehab that muscle, to teach it to burn to again

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been starved for so long. So I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>before about how I have such a disdain for eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred calorie diets in general. And sure they may work initially,

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<v Speaker 2>but for most of the women I now see in

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<v Speaker 2>their forties and fifties, they often don't work at all

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<v Speaker 2>because the body has been so used to extreme restriction.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is usually the reason they may not work

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<v Speaker 2>for you, and may work for other people. And usually

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<v Speaker 2>the older you get, the more diets you've done, the

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<v Speaker 2>harder it becomes. So I've always suddenly and if it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds too good to be true, it probably is. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's no quick and easy solution. It's about teaching the

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<v Speaker 2>body to burn more efficiently and developing a style of

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<v Speaker 2>eating that's sustainable for you long term. And if it

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<v Speaker 2>is requiring you to be so strict on a diet

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't eat normal food, you know. I heard

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<v Speaker 2>one of the diets required the client to get protein

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<v Speaker 2>powder and water and berries and mix it and that

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<v Speaker 2>was the meal. And I was like, God, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to really want to be skinny to eat like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I could think of nothing worse. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that too. You've got to actually

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy your food, and there's nothing wrong with enjoying whole,

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<v Speaker 2>good quality food. You don't shouldn't have to eat like

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<v Speaker 2>that to lose weight. You can certainly do it. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit slower, but in a sustainable way without

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<v Speaker 2>having to eat powdered protein and some berries in water.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely kind I had last week. Previously, I'd worked with

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<v Speaker 1>a PT who said that she had to eat beef mints,

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<v Speaker 1>spinach and walnuts for breakfast and that was in him

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<v Speaker 1>meal plant and I was like, oh God, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to bath if I had to eat beef mints

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<v Speaker 1>and walnuts for breakfast and with spinach every morning anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So do it, do it well, do it sustainable, and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it lasts. So that brings us to the

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<v Speaker 2>Hm