1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Well, Tourism Central Australia has moved a motion urging the 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Government to take immediate action to enforce law 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: and order in Alice Springs, saying that crime is reaching 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: crisis levels. It follows a shocking incident which saw a 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: visitor browsing the local information center allegedly hit with a 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: coward's punch by an offender without premeditation. Now joining me 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: on the line is Daniel Rochford from Tourism Central Australia, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the CEO. Good morning to you, Daniel. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Duniel. Firstly, can you tell me what happened with this 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: assault at the visitor center. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, last Monday, we had a visitor who was just 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: browsing the shelves of the information center in the middle 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: part of the day and someone just walked in off 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: the street and threw a punch without any premeditation or 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: any understanding of who that person was. And look, the 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: visitor was here on holidays. There was actually her sixty 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: first birthday and she was here in the region enjoying 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: herself and then suddenly this assault alleged assaults occurred. 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: Daniel, that is honestly shocking. 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty bad. Look, obviously, it's more than pretty bad, 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, getting to the stage now where assaults like 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: this are happening not at night, it's happening in broad daylight, 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: and it's very I guess the situation that we face 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: day in day out here in our springs. And you 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: alluded to the fact that my members last week moved 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: a motion basically describing what we're living with here in 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: our springs is at crisis levels and certainly we're needing 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: urgent support from the Northern Territory Government to put additional 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: resources to this because at this very moment, in our opinion, 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Government does not have control of the 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: streets of Alice Springs. They may be the government, but 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: they do not have control of our streets. 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Daniel, it is a massive call for a tourism body 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: to come out to put your necks out, move this 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: motion to say that the Northern Territory Government do not 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: have control of crime in Alice Springs. Why have you 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: gone down this path? 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, not only are we seeing the statistics all trending 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: upwards significantly, but we are seeing it, we're living it. 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: And we're feeling it. I think I nearly speak for 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: every member of this community that says we go to 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: bed at night fearing for have safety and there is 44 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: utter lawlessness occurring day in day out, which is when 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: I say the government does not have control of our streets. 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: That is what I point to. We see vandalism, we 47 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: see assaults, we see major intodess is on a daily basis. 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: Now that's not something you would see in a community 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: where the government and its authorities have control of the streets. 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: And that's why we think this is out of control. 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Well, I mean an example of that is yesterday we 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: saw footage on nine News Darwin of a bakery wicked needs. 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I believe it was being ram rated in the afternoon. 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: We also were sent to pressure release by the Northern 55 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Territory Police yesterday about an eighth and an eleven year 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: old allegedly lighting a house on fire. I mean, these 57 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: are some of the types of things that are happening 58 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: daily in Alice Springs from what I can. 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Gather, Yeah, absolutely, and that's what we live with. And 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: I guess Tourism Central Australian we've been very supportive of 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: the government. We sat down We've heard everything that they 62 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: have been trying to do to support this and for 63 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: a few years now. And you know, whenever things get bad, 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, there's a surge that happens, ministers fly in 65 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: and extra work gets done. But still we've got the problem, Katie, 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: and this is now we are at our wits n 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: and ultimately what we need to see here is, rather 68 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: than have reaction, which is what happens when a crime happens, 69 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: twenty minutes thirty minutes later, police turn up and other 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: support services turn up, we react to crime. We are 71 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: not proactive in terms of making sure our streets there 72 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: is law and order being put in place on our 73 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: streets in this town. 74 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: So Daniel, what are you talking here? Do you want 75 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: to see more police on the streets. I mean that's 76 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: a call that we saw from our Lord Bear up 77 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: here in Darwin Conbat Scarlets recently saying that he wanted 78 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: more police on the beach and on the streets. Is 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: that what you think needs to happen in Alice Springs? 80 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's more than just the police. And can 81 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: I say that they do an amazing job, Katie, But 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: it is more than just the police. But yes, visibility 83 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: is critical in terms of making sure that I look 84 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: when I go to darwhen I see the private security 85 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: around the Darwin Waterfront area and think, gee, that's something 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: that would be a great thing to see in Alice 87 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Springs as well. But I also look to the importance 88 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: of making sure that visibility. But we need to throw 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: way more resources at this problem at this time, not 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: in two weeks time or three weeks time. It needs 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: to be done now to restore law and order in 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: this town. 93 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make of what the Northern 94 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Territory government have previously said, though I know that I've 95 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: had the Minister for Police, Kate Warden, on this show 96 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: saying that they have got Jeanette Kerr leading a review 97 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: into what's going on in Ola Springs when it comes 98 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: to where those resources are being utilized and the issues 99 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: with youth crime and crime on the streets, Does that 100 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: go far enough for Daniel? Are we talking here that 101 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: something needs to happen sort of immediately and you can't 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: wait for that review to be complete. 103 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: We fully support the social order response and certainly congratulate 104 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: the government around that, but you know, some of that 105 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: stuff should have been done a long time ago, you know, 106 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: coordinating CCTV cameras, coordinating support groups. You know that stuff 107 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: should have been done a long time ago. But the 108 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: reality is we're playing catch up. But we fully support it. 109 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: But it's going to have And Jeanette was on local 110 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: radio here this morning saying the exact same thing, that 111 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: it's going to take time. We don't have time. We 112 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: need to make sure that our streets and our houses, 113 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: our businesses are secure now, not in the future. 114 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: Daniel, I've got to say, you know, you are somebody 115 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: who just a month ago you and I were talking 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: about the amazingly positive numbers you've seen out of Central 117 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Australia when it comes to the number of visitors, how 118 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: long they were staying, for the amount that they were spending. 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: When there is a positive story to tell you are 120 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: well and truly front and center to tell it. Are 121 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: you concerned though, about the impact that coming out and 122 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: saying that crime is at crisis levels is going to 123 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: have when it comes to tourism. 124 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: I think you and I know each other well enough 125 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: and so does the government that I wear my heart 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: on my sleeve and look, you know, we don't come 127 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: out on issues like this just without forethought. This is 128 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: obviously now a significant issue for not only the tourism 129 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: industry of Central Australia but our community. And our plea 130 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: to the government is we need more resources. We need 131 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: it now and if that means that Tourism Central Australia 132 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: and other business groups here locally in our community voice 133 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: that to our government. We just need to see action, Katie, 134 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: and we need to see it sooner other than later. 135 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Daniel, what would you say to anybody listening this morning 136 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: who thinks you're talking the territory down. 137 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: Look, we're certainly not in any shape or form wanting 138 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: to talk the territory down. We have an amazing place. 139 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: Central Australia's an amazing tourism destination and you know, we're 140 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: certainly very you know, we're very lucky to be where 141 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: we are. But if we do not get in control 142 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: of this issue, it is going to hurt us long 143 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: into the future. And that's the reason why we're making 144 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: this public call at the moment that we need action 145 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: and we need our government to get back in control. 146 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Rochford, the CEO of Tourism Central Australia, I always 147 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: appreciate your time and this morning mate. I appreciate the 148 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: fact that you are wearing your heart on your sleeve. 149 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: You are stepping up for the community of Ellice Springs 150 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: and for tourism in Central Australia and the community more broadly. 151 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you coming on air and having a 152 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: chat with us about it. 153 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 2: Thanks Courtie, thank you.