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Speaker 1: Jobson with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy demand of arms

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Speaker 2: for the pub test. Do resumes pass the pub test?

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Speaker 2: Body shopper trialing this. They say, you don't need a resume,

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Speaker 2: you just come and sell our creams and candles.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've done this overseas open hiring, but for the

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Speaker 3: first time the body Shop's going to be doing this

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Speaker 3: in Australia. Three hundred and eighty Christmas casuals across Australia.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen percent of these people will be people who've experienced homelessness.

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Speaker 3: They'll be young careers, first nation Australians and single parents.

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Speaker 3: They say, you just have to answer three simple questions.

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Speaker 3: Are you legally authorized to work in Australia? Can you

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Speaker 3: lift up to eleven kilos? And can you work an

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Speaker 3: eight hour shift? Are you happy to work with customers?

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Speaker 3: Actually that's four questions, so that's all that's required.

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Speaker 4: But I don't even care about the details.

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Speaker 3: Did you have to have a resume when you set

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Speaker 3: out your resume with those cassette tapes that you sing

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Speaker 3: all over Australia?

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Speaker 2: When I first started in radio, yes, but other jobs

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Speaker 2: before that, I didn't really have a resume. It was

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Speaker 2: always you meet the bus and he goes, okay, can

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Speaker 2: you show up to work.

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Speaker 4: You don't seem to be on drugs. Okay, you got

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Speaker 4: the job.

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Speaker 3: Well, the big deal. I know, in the early years,

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Speaker 3: when you're trying to put together a career, it was resume, resume, resume,

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Speaker 3: and when you leave UNI, you put everything in. The

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Speaker 3: girl I know got a job. She's now a very

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Speaker 3: respected journalist, got a job because she was a sheep

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Speaker 3: monitor at her.

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Speaker 2: Boarding school sheet.

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Speaker 3: Monitor and the producer of the TV show we're working

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Speaker 3: and said, you know what, that's funny she's in. So

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's that stuff that can get you over the line.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think do resumes past the pub test?

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Speaker 1: Resume is a controlled by all the job agencies, and

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Speaker 1: there's the problem. If you're not with them, your resume

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Speaker 1: is at the bottom of the list.

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Speaker 5: I work for a nonprofit organization and we get jobs

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Speaker 5: for ladies that have been impacted by the justice system,

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Speaker 5: and we advocate for them to get jobs with their resume.

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Speaker 5: If we write it a certain way, it gets them

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Speaker 5: past the post.

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Speaker 1: And then hopefully successfully get them to the job.

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Speaker 5: I do I think resume is really fast the podcast

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Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, if they really

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Speaker 5: want the job, you ask them why and what can

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Speaker 5: they do with all those sort of things, because attitude

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Speaker 5: is everything. The skills you can teach down.

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Speaker 4: The track exactly. Attitude is everything.

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Speaker 5: Jonesy and Amanda's gamination