1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Willinwoody you mis Stein's and doctor Melissa Kange. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: She's former former Dolly doctor doctor Melissa Kaning have written 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: his brilliant book. It's called Welcome to Sex Woods Keep 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: congratulations you. 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Me, thank you. It's been it's been a ride. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Taken off the shelves at Big w Are you surprised 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: by the level of negative feedback? 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: Well, look, a lot of it's died down and yesterday 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: so Wednesday, I got a news that the rights had 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: been sold to a UK publisher, So that's really good, 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: and it's going to be out in the US, which 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: is I think going to trigger an avalanche of really 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: crazy hate and death threats, which you know, I'm pretty 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: apprehensive about that. 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: What are you doing there to look after cell fumes? 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Knowing that that's like storms coming? Like, are you doing 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: anything with social media you're going to try and get 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: off or what? 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Like? Are you I don't know what You'm I Like, 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: I said, I'm apprehensive because these these people are pretty 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: scary sometimes and I don't take it lightly. I don't 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: go either. Is some keyboard warrior who's fifteen a living 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: in his mind spacement because often they're not. There's a 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: lot of personal trainers who send me death threats for 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: whatnot reason. Yeah, it's it's been a pretty foul time. 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: But I think that what I keep thinking about is 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: all the people that will benefit from seeing the book 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: that probably wouldn't have read it if it weren't for 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: the controversy, you know. So that's that's a whole generation 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: of young kids who now their parents are alert to 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: the book, they've purchased it, and they're going to have 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: this sex education that they probably wouldn't have without it. 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think you should know, Yumi. For people that 34 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: are thinking rationally and reasonably about this and you know, 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: sort of having their emotions removed from it or certainly 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: religion removed from it, it's a really good thing you're doing. 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: I really and I'm not sure that but for two 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: guys that recently brought daughters into the world, I'm really 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: happy that a she will have access to this sort 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: of information, but be importantly that other young girls and 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: boys that she might hook up with in the future 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: will also have access. I think that's the bit that 43 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: you get worried about as a parent, isn't it. It's 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily what your little girl, little boys are gonna do? 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Is that you know who over they're with. You just 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: want them to have a good, good time, a. 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: Good consensual time where you've talked about it and you 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: can go at your own pace as well. You know. 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: I think that we all experienced as young people this 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: sense of scarcity that if I don't, if I don't 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: hit home run tonight, it could be another three years 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: before anyone shows any interest in me. So you have 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: this urgency to race through things, check off a checklist, 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: and at any time are you thinking does this feel 55 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: nice for me? Does this feel nice for them? Like? 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Are we actually enjoying ourselves? And I think that's such 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: a lovely it's a lovely permission to be given that 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: your pleasure matters. 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Yes, it's his new book, Welcome to Sex, available now 60 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: at all Good bookstores. Good luck with the US release. 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks Villain Mardy, and thank you so much 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: for your beautiful, sensitive questions. I cried after the Welcome 63 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: to Consent book interview because you were so kind and 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: you got it it. It made me so glad. I 65 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: was like this, I guys get it. 66 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Oh well unfortunately, Yeah, happy to be flying the flag 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: for all the watch jerks out there. Hear more of 68 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the boys on the Full Show podcast, all on the 69 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio a app Oh worry me, get your podcast.