WEBVTT - The unstoppable Penrith Panthers 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:03.240 Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.520 the traditional owners of the land on which we record 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:06.120 this podcast. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.440 There were innerie people. This land was never seated, always 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:10.480 was always will be. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.520 Hello and welcome to Two Good Sports. It's sports news 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.280 told differently. I'm Abby Jelmy and Laura Sperway is joining 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.440 us again this week and I must admit you are 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.400 the sportiest of all sports this week because I turned 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.640 on my TV on the Saturday night and saw you 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.240 doing Boundary for the AFLW and thought that's strange. She's 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.240 got to be in Sydney tomorrow for the NRL Grand Finals, 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.199 so you've had a very sporty weekend. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.440 I love it. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.199 I love it apart from sitting on the side of 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.480 an oval in the rain, the glamorous side of it all, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.320 but it was still a good game, you know, to 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.120 be a part of it. I love doing the AFLW 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:54.440 and the NRL Grand Final. It's a different spectacle. It 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.720 is a different beast. And I use the term beast 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:58.520 because you had to go out and find super fans. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.920 Oh look, and they were in the pubs of Western 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.199 Sydney with a vengeance and I was able to chat 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:05.920 to a few of them. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.160 Look, they're very passionate and it's good to get. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.120 A lot of purple wigs involved there are it's good 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.240 to get them before the game. That's when you strike, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.160 because after the game it can be a very different story. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.880 It can be very messy and guards are needed. But 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.800 it was an incredible Grand Final and we're going to 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.479 break that down in our deep dive with Penrith, going 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.120 back to back to back to back, something that we 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.319 may never see in the modern era because they just 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.800 are an incredible team. And of course for Storm fans 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.520 we're going to get into the bunker as well. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.480 But we're going to. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.880 Start off with our good sport and bad sport and 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.280 my good sport, Laura like, there's some things in sport 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.440 that just hit you in the solar plexus and you go, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.080 how special is this? And to watch Jerome Hughes, just 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.440 after he was announced as a Dalian winner, be serenaded 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.480 by the Harka, which was led by Will Warbrick, It's 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.360 one of those things in sport that just can't be replicated. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.400 It's so special. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.400 We'll have a listen now, and that concludes our coverage 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:09.920 of the twenty twenty four Dallian Medal. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:41.520 I wan unreal, so good, unreal, and of course we 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.560 know about the Harts. It's spontaneous and it's led by 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.560 the Maori players in the room, and they're all from 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.600 different teams, they all come together. But my favorite quote 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.400 quote was from Justin Rodski, who's the CEO of Melbourne Storm. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.919 He said, I absolutely shit myself because this call came 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.799 from nowhere and no one was expecting it. You can 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.959 hear the presenter they're just wrapping up the night being like, look, 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.440 we're done. And also you can imagine from our perspective 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.239 in a TV control room, I hope they didn't have 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.760 a hard hit because they're probably going, hang on, we're 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.560 meant to be done. And there's a two minute song 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.880 in there that we didn't factor in. But it's just 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.000 the feeling. And again, if you haven't seen the footage, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.919 please go online and have a look. Because Jerome Hughes 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.200 welling up as these players. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.959 Dance in front of him. It's just so special. It's 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.120 absolute chills. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.400 Yeah, I've been in a room where they've done this, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.560 where we were siting. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:28.880 Yep. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.560 So I hosted a Storm function and will Warwbrick did 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.920 the same thing, and poor Justin Rodsky was at the 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:35.800 front table again. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.320 So Justin Rodsky got another. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.720 Shock because someone roaring next to you when you're not 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:41.400 expecting it. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.960 I feel like, is the place on fire? What's happening? Yeah, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.840 And it's just the intensity, the look in their eyes. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:49.680 It is p electric. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.920 Yeah, it's electric, and it just gives you these goose bumps. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.480 And it's hard to get that feeling on a TV broadcast, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.000 I think, but it's. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.160 It's how I audio. So thank you for playing along. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.200 With Well it's powerful enough that I think you still 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.800 get a sense and I love that they do that, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.920 and I think everyone gets wrapped up in those moments, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.560 so they're really special to be. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.840 A part of. Absolutely, And what's yours? What's your good 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:16.560 sport for the week. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.760 I'm going to indulge you in Georgie because I'd like 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.279 to say you are both my good sports for your 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:28.120 Australian Podcast Award nominations, so well deserved to. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:28.640 Both of you. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.880 I know this is your passion project. Yeah, I know 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.920 you don't do it to get the accolades. I don't 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.520 even know if you knew that you could get nominated 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.960 for your podcast, but you have, and I just want 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.480 to say huge congrats. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.920 To both of you. It's great to listen to. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.159 It's nice to be able to sit here for a 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.320 little while and have some fun myself. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.720 But well done to you both. You do so much. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.560 It's really kind and yeah, it's certainly not something that 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.160 you set out to achieve. And Georgie and I thought this, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.760 this whole concept up of two good sports. It's the 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.760 better part of a decade ago when we were both 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.599 sports interns going there's no sort of listened to sport 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.680 the way that we talk about sport, and it took 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.200 us a decade and finding iHeart to get it off 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.000 the ground. Yeah, but to be nominated, I think we're 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:18.240 the best new podcast, best sports podcast, and also best hosts. Lol. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:23.039 Will take that, the best, will take that. Whoever's the judges. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.960 Your check is in the mail, I promised, but no, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.599 it's Yeah, it's just a joy. And as you well know, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.279 you get into sport because you want to talk about 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:31.160 the moments. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.480 That move you alat the hakka. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.279 So it is really really nice to be acknowledged in 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.159 any way or more the point that people are listening 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.280 and enjoying it, so thank you so. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.640 Much, but you actually had a bads. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.400 I'm going to I'm gonna circle back to the sport 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.280 because you had a bad sport from last night because 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.680 I heard it in the broadcast and thought surely not. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.680 And it's back to Jerome Hughes and he was booed 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.960 after losing in the Grand Final. So this week, or 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.680 I should say now last week, he's the competition's best player. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.640 He won the Dali m Medal. He's been rick stocked. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.560 Six points because he was suspended, which is a whole 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:06.920 different system from the AFL. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.960 But he must have won by a landslide yep. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.240 So he's been recognized as the NRL's best player. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:13.719 Everybody knows this. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.960 Leading up to the Grand Final, he's in the Melbourne 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.479 Storm side that are minor premieer is for the year yep. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.640 And doing those post match interviews when you've just lost 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.400 a Grand Final is crap. Oh I'm being asked to 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.320 do them as a journal is crap. It's the shortest 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.280 straw that you can ever pull. When they're like can 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.560 you go get the losing captain, You're like, oh did 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:34.119 you say winning? 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.200 Sorry, my headphone's breaking up. Did you say winning? But 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:37.720 the booing? 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.120 I just thought it was unnecessary. So he's doing this 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.000 interview on the field. Obviously it's still very fresh. It's 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.960 on the broadcast, but it gets put on the big 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.400 screen in the stadium so all the fans can see 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.400 him being asked about being disappointed and losing. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.159 And then you just hear this booing and I thought, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.600 is that what it is? Yes? Is that what they're doing? 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:58.560 Is that what they're doing? 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.680 And I feel like in my mind that's what I heard. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.800 And I just thought, you know what, you don't need 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.359 to rub it in. No, the result's not going to change. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.560 And this guy who is the stand up player of 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.640 the competition, I mean, no one really deserves it, but 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.679 this is the guy dislikes him. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.200 Yeah, anyway, I thought booing. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.600 I just think of all the good things that you 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.680 can learn from sport, I think booing can get in 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:23.960 the bin. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.760 I just don't think it's necessary. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.320 But my goodness, me did Panthers fans have a lot 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.720 not to boo about last night because it was an 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.160 unbelievable formance and we're going to break it all down next. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:47.160 Well. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.480 The Penrith Panthers, all the pink Panthers as we shall 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.560 call them, with their beautiful guernsey last night in the 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.840 NURL decider for twenty twenty four, have put themselves in 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.280 rare air by winning four consecutive premierships. You actually have 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.800 to think, Laura when you say back to back to 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.200 back to back, to count them on your fingers for 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.720 just how ridiculous this dominance is. And it's something that 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.680 you have to think back to Saint George in the 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.720 sixties for this level of dominance that we've seen in 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.960 the National League for the NRL, and then since the 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.280 inclusion of the salary cap in nineteen ninety, they said 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.040 it would never be done. The Roosters managed to go 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.360 back to back in a couple of years, but no 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.080 one thought that we would see a team with this 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.520 level of dominance. And that was what was on display 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.640 last night in the Grand Final against the Melbourne Storm 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.839 because they just and in the words of Ryan Pappenhausen, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:44.880 suffocated them. Their defense was a pink wall and you 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.040 were just watching a team where you think this dynasty 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.320 could continue to roll on and all of it. At 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:57.160 the helm is the Clearies, Ivan Cleary and Nathan Cleary, how. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.640 Would you go being coached by your dad? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.640 Look, if he was that good as Ivan Cleary appears 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:03.960 to be, and I was that. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.480 Good you went with Ivan Cleary? Well, what I was. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.560 Saying is they're both obviously very good at what they do. Yes, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.440 And that makes it easier to put up with, don't 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.120 you think if you're like, well, I accept that you 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.160 know you're good at your job, and hey, I'm pretty 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:17.880 good at my job. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.800 So let's just meet in the middle. Show we It's 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:21.760 pretty remarkable. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.640 But what is remarkable is that the Storm had such 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.360 a prolific season and such a strong finals campaign that 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.520 they actually went into the game favorites. Yeah, and I think, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.880 I mean, I think that's warranted. They'd beaten the Panthers 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.600 twice in the home and away season. The last one 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.959 was a very narrow wind, but they had beaten them twice, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.520 and both sides had some sort of slight injury concerns 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.760 going in. I think ultimately though, you know, the Grand 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.120 Final is played in Sydney, Yes, and that is to 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.320 Penrith or if they were a new South Wales side, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:55.760 and it is to their advantage. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.240 Yes, And I think that does make a difference. Did 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.520 you notice that with the fans and the ratio heading in. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.360 I was surprised by the amount of Melbourne Storm fans 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.800 I saw. I thought it would be more skewed, but 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.440 you know, I was told it was a pretty even split. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.160 I think there was probably slightly more Penrith fans, but 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.760 there were more Storm fans than I thought there would be. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.520 But I also think that, you know, you can look 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.520 at it from either way. There are either people in 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.880 Sydney that are anti Melbourne so they just go, we're 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.480 supporting the Sydney team, yes, or there are people that 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.520 are just anti Panthers over. We're Australians and we don't 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.360 like people that do well for too long. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.480 We don't like it well. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.720 Bizarrely, I think the reason why there are so many 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.920 Storm fans is because Storm have done so well, yeah, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.920 for so long. So Craig Bellamy has been at the 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.800 Helm for twenty two years, which is just unbelievable when 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.079 you think about that as a coaching record, and his 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.280 legacy is one that will live on for so long 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.760 because he's been offered ridiculous money to coach elsewhere, but 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.120 his loyalty to the Storm and The fact that he 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.160 keeps getting these players from different teams that aren't getting 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.559 an opportunity of playing in the seconds and then turns 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 them into these Grand Final players in a star team 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.640 is remarkable. It was his tenth Grand Final appearance and 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.280 it was the last time that the Panthers played the 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.400 Storm in twenty twenty. That was the last time they 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.240 lost a Grand Final twenty twenty. Think to where you were. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.280 It's just such a long time of dominance. And there's 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.400 a quote from Nathan Cleary where he essentially says they 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.120 were men and we were boys in that Grand Final, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.880 and I just thought, I'm never having that happen to 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:31.360 me again. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.760 And it hasn't. It hasn't since. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.480 But the big question after the discussion we had there 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:42.200 is the attendance. Now, it would be remissive me as 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.520 someone who on this podcast, Let's be honest, is not 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.240 usually the NRL expert not to bring in a bit 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.000 of AFL flavor. So Dan Gorange just had a bit 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.640 to say yesterday afternoon where I went, surely, not, Laura, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:56.680 this can't be true. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:57.560 Let's take a listen. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.040 I'm really just struggling to wrap my head around and 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.960 how the NRL Grand Final is tonight and it's not 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.600 sold out. How am I supposed to get behind it 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.920 when your own fans can't even get behind it. Look 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.480 at all the seats. If this was the afl'd be 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.680 sold out in ten minutes. We would sell that bitch out. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.640 There are seats galore. Can't even give the tickets away 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.480 in the NRL. Don't compare the codes anymore because you 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.640 can't even sell out a Grand Final. And I'm trying 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.200 to do my best to get behind it, but you 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.880 can't sell out the Grand Final. Got a problem. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.960 Firstly, I love what that man is doing for AFL media, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.120 but it's a. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.240 Really valid point. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.400 So yesterday afternoon you could buy yourself a ticket to 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.400 the NRL Grand Final and as we know, with the 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.320 AFL Grand Final at a stadium with an extra twenty 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.920 thousand capacity, it sells out in ten minutes. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.160 And they are like hen's teeth. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.559 So what is you got Peter Blandy's who's the head 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.800 of the NRL saying it's the most popular sport in 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:54.240 the nation. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.520 Can that be true? I don't think so. I don't know. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.360 I just I mean, obviously the Grand finalists were only 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.560 decided a week out. That's not new though, interstate side 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.000 going into Sydney. I mean, we just had to interstate 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.200 teams play the AFL Grand Final here in Melbourne sellout. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.480 But yeah, I think there's a couple of factors. I 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:23.520 think the interstate side was one. You mentioned Penrith fatigue, Yeah, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.960 that would be there. That would be there. Like I said, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.880 we don't like people to do too long for too well. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.199 I think we too well for too long. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:31.800 Yeah, exactly. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.360 We spoke last week about the prestige of the MCG. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.800 I think that Homebush has the opposite. Yeah, I don't 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.120 want to go out to a core stadium like it's 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.120 just granted, it looked spectacular on the broadcast last night. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.160 It did, and that atmosphere looked amazing. But I also 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.280 think what perhaps could be a bit of a hold 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.319 up for the NRL is that the Origin is actually 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.240 a bigger, better spectacle. So for us, the Grand Finals 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.280 the pinnacle of the AFL, whereas State of Origin seems 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.160 to have a different level of that tribalism and that prestige. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.760 Well you can maybe, yeah, you can just get more 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.839 people on board with the State of Origin because it's 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.760 a whole state against a whole state totally, so you're 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.400 not alienating anyone there. If they're NRL team's not in it, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.160 you're going, Okay, I'm from this state, so I can 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.679 get behind this team. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.720 But I mean, it was still a very good game. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.440 Oh it was amazing, like the quality of the foot 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.520 like it was amazing to watch. And again Penrith's defense, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.920 the Storm just kept crashing against this wall and there 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.200 was nothing they could do about it. And that final 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.320 score of six to fourteen actually doesn't give you an 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.160 indication of just how good the Storm were. They were 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.320 leading early in the game, but against anyone else that 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.240 Penrith's side would have embarrassed them, which wasn't the case. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:48.240 But there was a controversial moment that has awoken a 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.640 good sport from wherever she is in Milan because Georgie 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.760 sent me a voicemail to play on this show, Laura, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.800 because she went, I just cannot believe this, and of 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.880 course it involves the Bunkers. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:05.680 So here is our resident other good sport. George on Jorn. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.240 Not bonjour, dear listeners, I've still got my accent game 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.960 going strong. Jelmy, I hope you're laughing, But greetings from Milan, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.200 Jelmy and Laura. Firstly, Laura, you have done such a 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.280 brilliant job in my absence. Thank you so much for 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.400 filling in for me. But of course it would not 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.920 be NRL Grand Final week without my two cents. And 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.280 let me tell you, I have a bank worth of 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:29.720 thoughts about the bunker. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.800 Oh what a system, What a flawed system. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.400 That's a bit of a spoiler. How on earth was 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.480 that try given a no try? Melbourne barging over at 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.200 a key time in the game early in the second half. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.680 If that try was awarded, it could have leveled, if 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.280 not put the storm in front on the scoreboard. Now, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.960 the on ground referee said that the player Howarth was 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:55.560 held up. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.440 I definitely saw ball on grass. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.720 But I have also seen a new released by the 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.560 NRL because they had so much pressure and criticism, being like, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.560 what the hell how could you award that a no try? 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.840 And that vision that new angle does actually appear to 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.320 see how hold held up over the line. But you 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.440 know what, that doesn't fit my narrative, so down with 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.360 the bunker. The system needs an overhaul anyway. This is 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.240 just further proof of that. Once again, things need to 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.360 be fixed in the third official game in the NRL. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.040 But look, nothing was actually going to stop Penrith. They 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.560 are just too good and Mary Fowler's boyfriend continues to 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.960 prove that he's an immortal and waiting Lea Martin was amazing. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.960 It pains me to say this, but this team, this 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.640 Panthers team is unlike anything I've actually seen in my lifetime. 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.760 I've watched a lot of NRL. They are incredible. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.000 Well done Panthers, there go, I didn't choke on it. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.080 Well done, well done, And anyway, see you next week, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:53.040 two good sports. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:58.880 I'll be back. I've missed you. Wow, your favorite Italian correspondent. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.360 And just for the few that don't know Mary Power's 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.560 boyfriend Nathan Cleary. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.479 That is the only way that George refers. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.200 But you can see the enthusiasm hasn't been dampened by 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.320 the kilometers of distance, and you just knew that she 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.760 was going to find a screen. But it is a 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.679 really interesting question that she poses there because we have 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.880 the same again with the AFL with the ARC that 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.080 there are apparently forty different cameras that they get access 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.160 to and they make decisions, as was the argument last 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.680 night based on footage that isn't showed to the public. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.680 So if you're the public and you're seeing a shot 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.439 and it looks like the ball hits the turf in 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.320 a downward motion over the line, you're like that for 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.920 my very basic knowledge is a try And then they 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.000 quickly find this different footage, which supposedly is what the 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:48.520 decision was made on. Why are we just not seeing 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.160 what the decisions based on to eradicate all of this controversy. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.639 Maybe they just can't get it on the broadcast, like 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.919 you never know where they're fishing this thing from. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.640 Well, they're watching it in real time, but maybe they 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.199 just can't roll it out, or maybe they don't want to. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.280 Maybe they just go, we just need to make our decision. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.280 We don't care about letting all of you see it. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:10.520 We're just going to make the call. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.479 We sit in our call and we're happy with it, 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:14.959 and then is it you know, the uproar, and then 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.080 they go, Okay. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.479 Here it is. You can see it and you can 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.239 see that we were right. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.000 And I think most people have acknowledged that that was 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.400 the case, but at the time it confused the commentators. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.440 The commentators were saying Andrew John's was adamant. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.840 And when you've got Animaltol saying that's a try all 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:31.520 of a sudden, I'm. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.639 Like, yeah, that is a try. I agree, Joey, I agree. 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.240 But something I found really interesting was that the head 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.800 of the NRL referees was really on the front foot 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.919 by getting access to that footage and showing it to 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.760 all the senior journalists, so before they got to the 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.560 press conferences, before they went that was certainly a try. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.439 They got to see this footage and go, oh, well, 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:59.679 actually no, it wasn't. So it was really strategic from 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.560 them and clever from them because they obviously just saw 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.280 the fire or the storm, if you will, coming their way. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.960 But it is such a disappointment when you feel like 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.639 there is a turning point and it comes down to 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.120 technology and not sport. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:11.199 Isn't it. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.399 Well, I think that was a turning point in the 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.440 game because had that been a try, and it wasn't, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.879