1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,268 Speaker 1: live on the Free I hard. 3 00:00:17,389 --> 00:00:19,309 Speaker 2: This is pretty hard to conceive. 4 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:24,469 Speaker 3: Jess and Miriam rode eight thousand miles across the Pacific Ocean. 5 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:28,909 Speaker 3: It's almost fifteen It seems like ten hours and one 6 00:00:28,989 --> 00:00:32,149 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five days, starting in Peru and finishing 7 00:00:32,189 --> 00:00:33,508 Speaker 3: in cans. 8 00:00:33,189 --> 00:00:35,109 Speaker 2: And they join us right now, safe and sound on 9 00:00:35,149 --> 00:00:35,909 Speaker 2: willing would. 10 00:00:35,668 --> 00:00:40,388 Speaker 1: He Hey, guys, Hello, thanks for having us on. 11 00:00:40,668 --> 00:00:42,869 Speaker 4: Of course, now this is probably a pretty immature question. 12 00:00:42,909 --> 00:00:44,789 Speaker 1: There's so many questions we could ask you, but I 13 00:00:44,789 --> 00:00:49,229 Speaker 1: do want to ask you first and foremost, toilet while 14 00:00:49,229 --> 00:00:51,388 Speaker 1: you're on the boat, what was that mirror? 15 00:00:51,509 --> 00:00:51,909 Speaker 4: Bucket? 16 00:00:51,989 --> 00:00:52,949 Speaker 5: Bucket and chuck it? 17 00:00:53,468 --> 00:00:55,109 Speaker 4: But bucket, bucket and chuck it. 18 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:57,908 Speaker 1: So what I was, what I was envisioning, is the 19 00:00:57,949 --> 00:00:59,908 Speaker 1: thing you used to do when you were like a 20 00:01:00,029 --> 00:01:02,189 Speaker 1: kid and you just kind of like dangle half your 21 00:01:02,188 --> 00:01:04,509 Speaker 1: body over the boat and let it go. 22 00:01:04,589 --> 00:01:05,389 Speaker 4: But it wasn't that. 23 00:01:05,828 --> 00:01:09,229 Speaker 6: No, you'd end up getting just like a the wed 24 00:01:09,749 --> 00:01:11,069 Speaker 6: the day kind of situation. 25 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:16,269 Speaker 1: Very good, okay, cool, And a question there for I 26 00:01:16,269 --> 00:01:18,749 Speaker 1: guess a question for how close you guys are shared 27 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:19,949 Speaker 1: bucket or different bucket. 28 00:01:20,709 --> 00:01:23,349 Speaker 7: We had the same bucket, but we'd always clean it. 29 00:01:23,469 --> 00:01:27,589 Speaker 7: So yeah, actually the most comfortable seat on the boats. 30 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:33,749 Speaker 3: Guys, what what does the day look like? Because I 31 00:01:33,789 --> 00:01:35,509 Speaker 3: was I was talking one of the producers before. I 32 00:01:35,509 --> 00:01:38,309 Speaker 3: was like, are they are you anchoring at night? Like, 33 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:40,309 Speaker 3: because you're in the middle of the Pacific, Like. 34 00:01:40,229 --> 00:01:42,829 Speaker 2: How are you? How are you? How are you doing this? 35 00:01:43,149 --> 00:01:44,949 Speaker 2: Like what what does the day look like? Is one 36 00:01:44,989 --> 00:01:48,469 Speaker 2: of you always rowing? I mean runs through. 37 00:01:49,149 --> 00:01:50,909 Speaker 6: We're rowing day and night. We've got to keep the 38 00:01:50,909 --> 00:01:52,309 Speaker 6: boat moving as much as possible. 39 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:55,469 Speaker 2: No anchoring, no, no, not there's. 40 00:01:55,269 --> 00:01:57,589 Speaker 6: A sea anchoror parachute anchor in case the window was 41 00:01:57,589 --> 00:02:00,469 Speaker 6: in the wrong direction or something like that. But in 42 00:02:00,509 --> 00:02:03,549 Speaker 6: the beginning, our routine was two two hours off with 43 00:02:03,829 --> 00:02:06,029 Speaker 6: we do an extra voluntary hour during the day whenever 44 00:02:06,109 --> 00:02:08,548 Speaker 6: we felt we had the energy, and then towards the 45 00:02:08,709 --> 00:02:11,149 Speaker 6: and we were basically just rowing all day, and then 46 00:02:11,189 --> 00:02:13,629 Speaker 6: from six pm to ten am we'd do the two 47 00:02:13,629 --> 00:02:14,869 Speaker 6: hours on two hours off. 48 00:02:15,109 --> 00:02:16,988 Speaker 5: And those off bits we could sleep. 49 00:02:17,029 --> 00:02:19,149 Speaker 6: But you never get the four two hours off because 50 00:02:19,149 --> 00:02:20,749 Speaker 6: by the time you got into the cabin and you 51 00:02:20,789 --> 00:02:22,989 Speaker 6: maybe had a bit of a wash or sorted out 52 00:02:22,989 --> 00:02:25,909 Speaker 6: some admin or ran home. So we probably averaged about 53 00:02:25,949 --> 00:02:28,388 Speaker 6: four to six hours sleep for the crossing. 54 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:32,349 Speaker 1: Oh sorry when you say you were going down there 55 00:02:32,349 --> 00:02:33,948 Speaker 1: and doing emails. 56 00:02:33,629 --> 00:02:35,909 Speaker 2: No, well we are cleaning yourself. 57 00:02:37,109 --> 00:02:39,309 Speaker 1: Yeah sorry, I thought you were like, well, better pay 58 00:02:39,309 --> 00:02:40,109 Speaker 1: the bills. 59 00:02:42,189 --> 00:02:42,709 Speaker 4: Returns Like. 60 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:46,869 Speaker 2: No, why, why? Why? 61 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:49,869 Speaker 3: I keep going back to that, Why why are you 62 00:02:49,909 --> 00:02:51,269 Speaker 3: doing this? This is insane? 63 00:02:51,789 --> 00:02:53,669 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we So we both met when we 64 00:02:53,669 --> 00:02:56,149 Speaker 7: were rowing across the Atlantic Ocean in twenty twenty two. 65 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:59,869 Speaker 7: So there's a there's a race called the Telescooske Atlantic Challenge. 66 00:02:59,869 --> 00:03:03,189 Speaker 7: It's been renamed for the world's toughest row and it's 67 00:03:03,229 --> 00:03:05,469 Speaker 7: a three thousand miles rowing race from lagomer in the 68 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:09,749 Speaker 7: Canary Islands to Antigua in the Caribbean and growing solo. 69 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:11,949 Speaker 7: And I was wearing as a team of four, and 70 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:15,909 Speaker 7: we were in Antigua celebrating, and pretty much a week after, 71 00:03:16,789 --> 00:03:18,709 Speaker 7: you know, we've both been on land together, we decided 72 00:03:18,829 --> 00:03:21,389 Speaker 7: let's try and top this. We absolutely loved our time 73 00:03:21,429 --> 00:03:23,989 Speaker 7: out there, and so decided let's try and take on 74 00:03:24,069 --> 00:03:24,869 Speaker 7: the biggest ocean. 75 00:03:25,389 --> 00:03:26,829 Speaker 4: Wow, bloody hell. 76 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:28,309 Speaker 3: And what was the hardest thing about being on the 77 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:31,629 Speaker 3: bike was what was the bit was most difficult. 78 00:03:31,829 --> 00:03:35,549 Speaker 6: I think probably the sleep deprivation we did pass There 79 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:37,389 Speaker 6: was some days you'd have good days and bad days, 80 00:03:37,389 --> 00:03:39,509 Speaker 6: and then some days where you're just passing out on 81 00:03:39,549 --> 00:03:41,829 Speaker 6: the oars like just to hit you back. You'll be fine, 82 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:43,989 Speaker 6: You'll be rowing and you can sleep rope for a 83 00:03:44,029 --> 00:03:46,629 Speaker 6: little bit and then you'll just sort of go and 84 00:03:46,709 --> 00:03:50,629 Speaker 6: then I mean one day I opened the cabin door 85 00:03:50,709 --> 00:03:53,469 Speaker 6: and jessman I just fell asleep eating my snacks and 86 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:54,509 Speaker 6: she was like, just cut. 87 00:03:54,749 --> 00:03:59,429 Speaker 7: Arown and also like you try and eat snacks to 88 00:03:59,509 --> 00:04:01,189 Speaker 7: keep you awake, And I was like, how earth has 89 00:04:01,229 --> 00:04:01,709 Speaker 7: this happened? 90 00:04:01,789 --> 00:04:02,509 Speaker 5: This is wild? 91 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:05,829 Speaker 4: So what about like injuries? 92 00:04:06,029 --> 00:04:09,029 Speaker 1: Like I occasionally will jump on the rhine massie at 93 00:04:09,069 --> 00:04:11,989 Speaker 1: the gym and banging out a kilometer. Sometimes I get 94 00:04:11,989 --> 00:04:15,069 Speaker 1: blisters on my hands, so I try to actually steer 95 00:04:15,109 --> 00:04:15,589 Speaker 1: clear of it. 96 00:04:15,669 --> 00:04:16,628 Speaker 4: How are the hands? 97 00:04:17,308 --> 00:04:17,988 Speaker 5: Hands were good? 98 00:04:17,988 --> 00:04:21,388 Speaker 7: To be honest, I mean we did so much rowing 99 00:04:21,389 --> 00:04:24,069 Speaker 7: on the on the rowing machine prior and also did 100 00:04:24,109 --> 00:04:25,988 Speaker 7: a lot of training in our boat that our hands 101 00:04:25,988 --> 00:04:28,829 Speaker 7: are pretty tough before starting, so we didn't really suffer 102 00:04:28,829 --> 00:04:29,469 Speaker 7: from blisters. 103 00:04:30,109 --> 00:04:30,589 Speaker 5: Our hands up. 104 00:04:30,669 --> 00:04:33,469 Speaker 7: Yeah, just I've turned into our feet almost feet are 105 00:04:33,509 --> 00:04:36,309 Speaker 7: really solid. I'm not walking anywhere and hants an't really 106 00:04:36,549 --> 00:04:38,229 Speaker 7: really tough, need. 107 00:04:38,149 --> 00:04:39,229 Speaker 5: To go to get some manicures. 108 00:04:40,269 --> 00:04:41,669 Speaker 4: So what was so physically then? 109 00:04:41,709 --> 00:04:44,349 Speaker 1: What was the hardest part about rowing just so much 110 00:04:44,349 --> 00:04:45,829 Speaker 1: and rowing across the Pacific Ocean. 111 00:04:46,949 --> 00:04:49,029 Speaker 5: It's a tricky one. It's very mental. 112 00:04:49,229 --> 00:04:51,988 Speaker 6: Our boat is like, because it's such a big boat 113 00:04:52,069 --> 00:04:54,469 Speaker 6: for this trip and to get everything in it. It 114 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:56,109 Speaker 6: can be rowed by up to four people, so it's 115 00:04:56,149 --> 00:04:58,789 Speaker 6: a really heavy boat. So it was actually really hard 116 00:04:58,829 --> 00:05:01,109 Speaker 6: when there was no wind and no waves and everybody 117 00:05:01,109 --> 00:05:03,349 Speaker 6: thinks you want calm weather, but it doesn't help you 118 00:05:03,389 --> 00:05:04,188 Speaker 6: go forward at all. 119 00:05:04,749 --> 00:05:06,549 Speaker 5: And as we got. 120 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:10,109 Speaker 6: Closer to this side, the ozon layer was getting thinner, 121 00:05:10,269 --> 00:05:12,869 Speaker 6: so the heat went on those calm days when there 122 00:05:12,909 --> 00:05:14,589 Speaker 6: was no wind to just cool you down. 123 00:05:14,789 --> 00:05:17,749 Speaker 5: It's pretty pretty Yeah. 124 00:05:17,789 --> 00:05:20,269 Speaker 3: This food part of it, so you you five thousand 125 00:05:20,269 --> 00:05:21,069 Speaker 3: calories a day? 126 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:22,029 Speaker 2: Is that age? 127 00:05:22,749 --> 00:05:25,428 Speaker 7: Yeah, so we were trying to consume that many, but 128 00:05:25,469 --> 00:05:27,669 Speaker 7: we weren't really ever able to because we just really 129 00:05:28,309 --> 00:05:29,469 Speaker 7: with didrated food. 130 00:05:29,469 --> 00:05:32,868 Speaker 2: It's just so, was there a support boat at any stage? 131 00:05:32,869 --> 00:05:33,549 Speaker 4: Is there a boat. 132 00:05:33,389 --> 00:05:35,389 Speaker 2: Following you along here or anything like that? 133 00:05:36,869 --> 00:05:39,629 Speaker 3: You took all your food for six months and you've 134 00:05:39,629 --> 00:05:41,789 Speaker 3: both got to eat five thousand calories a day. 135 00:05:42,669 --> 00:05:43,669 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all. 136 00:05:44,189 --> 00:05:46,428 Speaker 2: Wow, what is that just powdered milk? 137 00:05:46,949 --> 00:05:50,469 Speaker 7: Well, it's actually meals like curries and like pasta, bolonnaise 138 00:05:50,589 --> 00:05:52,868 Speaker 7: and you know anything you can think of really, and 139 00:05:52,909 --> 00:05:55,829 Speaker 7: you just add water and there's no texture to it whatsoever. 140 00:05:55,869 --> 00:05:58,429 Speaker 4: It's just mush taking all your water on there. 141 00:05:58,669 --> 00:05:59,508 Speaker 2: How does that work? 142 00:06:00,229 --> 00:06:04,829 Speaker 6: Well, we have a desalinator, a water mate o the seawater, 143 00:06:04,869 --> 00:06:07,029 Speaker 6: but we had a litle problems with that. 144 00:06:07,109 --> 00:06:10,069 Speaker 5: So that was god as well. 145 00:06:10,269 --> 00:06:13,669 Speaker 1: You never had one of those Big Rills moments on 146 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:14,109 Speaker 1: the boat. 147 00:06:14,229 --> 00:06:15,988 Speaker 4: Do you know who Big Grills is and what he's famous? 148 00:06:16,229 --> 00:06:22,189 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never had a moment like that with the bucket. Yes, 149 00:06:22,669 --> 00:06:24,869 Speaker 1: I'm asking you if you ever drank your own urine 150 00:06:24,909 --> 00:06:25,629 Speaker 1: in desperation? 151 00:06:26,109 --> 00:06:28,429 Speaker 5: Oh no, that point. 152 00:06:30,149 --> 00:06:32,149 Speaker 4: That's good. Good to confirm, good to confirm. 153 00:06:32,389 --> 00:06:35,749 Speaker 1: So let's talk about first meal when you get back 154 00:06:35,789 --> 00:06:37,828 Speaker 1: on land. And then what's the first meal? 155 00:06:38,229 --> 00:06:41,308 Speaker 7: So we had we had pizzas and beer when we yeah, 156 00:06:41,389 --> 00:06:43,948 Speaker 7: as our first we already put our orders in for 157 00:06:44,109 --> 00:06:45,628 Speaker 7: pizzas a week before we arrived. 158 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:46,429 Speaker 5: That's so good. 159 00:06:46,789 --> 00:06:49,269 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is that thing you're missing. Those just 160 00:06:49,309 --> 00:06:52,029 Speaker 3: like good quality food. Is that what you're missing? 161 00:06:52,269 --> 00:06:54,909 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we would spend most of our day 162 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:57,149 Speaker 6: talking about food. So in the beginning we were really 163 00:06:57,149 --> 00:06:59,709 Speaker 6: craving steak, yeah, and then as we got across it 164 00:06:59,749 --> 00:07:02,549 Speaker 6: was just pizza. But we would just get so obsessed 165 00:07:02,549 --> 00:07:04,669 Speaker 6: with food. We would just ask each other these stupid 166 00:07:04,749 --> 00:07:07,469 Speaker 6: questions all day, like what's your favorite pasta shape? 167 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:08,669 Speaker 5: And what's your favorite pudding? 168 00:07:08,949 --> 00:07:11,789 Speaker 6: And oh god, and then we start messaging around all 169 00:07:11,829 --> 00:07:13,389 Speaker 6: our support team to find out. 170 00:07:13,229 --> 00:07:14,589 Speaker 5: Like what their favorite cake was. 171 00:07:16,949 --> 00:07:20,749 Speaker 6: Answers were just annoying everybody with all these stupid food questions, 172 00:07:20,829 --> 00:07:22,669 Speaker 6: and he was entertained for hours. 173 00:07:22,789 --> 00:07:23,709 Speaker 2: It sounds like a riot. 174 00:07:23,789 --> 00:07:25,429 Speaker 3: And guys, I also heard before you got on them 175 00:07:25,429 --> 00:07:27,149 Speaker 3: before we go into the pizza NBA. So you've been 176 00:07:27,229 --> 00:07:29,949 Speaker 3: rowing for six months on the Pacific, So what were 177 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:31,349 Speaker 3: the first steps on land? 178 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:37,309 Speaker 7: Like quite webbly and yeah, we could not believe how 179 00:07:37,349 --> 00:07:41,549 Speaker 7: many people were at the finish. Our story has sort 180 00:07:41,549 --> 00:07:43,789 Speaker 7: of been shared really wide by Lost in Here, one 181 00:07:43,789 --> 00:07:46,709 Speaker 7: of our partners, and they've really spread the message out 182 00:07:46,749 --> 00:07:48,909 Speaker 7: and we had so many people at the finish line. 183 00:07:48,909 --> 00:07:50,869 Speaker 6: It was just it was crazy. 184 00:07:50,589 --> 00:07:53,669 Speaker 4: Cool, awesome. What about sleep? Was sleep? Weird? Back in 185 00:07:53,709 --> 00:07:54,069 Speaker 4: a bed. 186 00:07:54,749 --> 00:07:57,309 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we we both have been up to like 187 00:07:57,349 --> 00:07:59,109 Speaker 6: three in the morning the last couple of nights because 188 00:07:59,109 --> 00:08:02,949 Speaker 6: we've been so wide and just wide awake, maybe because 189 00:08:02,949 --> 00:08:06,189 Speaker 6: we're not exhausting ourselves all day. So bit's hard. Now 190 00:08:06,229 --> 00:08:07,669 Speaker 6: it's I think it's going to catch up on us 191 00:08:07,669 --> 00:08:10,909 Speaker 6: and we're crash too. But yeah, got a lot of adrenaline, 192 00:08:10,949 --> 00:08:13,189 Speaker 6: still quite wired from it all and the finished. 193 00:08:13,269 --> 00:08:14,709 Speaker 4: Do you have a wake up thinking you're still on 194 00:08:14,749 --> 00:08:15,469 Speaker 4: the boat? 195 00:08:15,789 --> 00:08:19,789 Speaker 6: Not yet, Yeah, I think that'll come. We did just 196 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:22,189 Speaker 6: have some like really random boat dreams. I used to 197 00:08:22,189 --> 00:08:25,789 Speaker 6: get really disorientated and I would be asleep and I 198 00:08:25,789 --> 00:08:28,429 Speaker 6: would dream about something that was happening on the boat. 199 00:08:28,509 --> 00:08:29,949 Speaker 6: So when I woke up, I would think it was 200 00:08:29,989 --> 00:08:31,789 Speaker 6: time to go back to sleep again and then realize 201 00:08:31,789 --> 00:08:33,748 Speaker 6: I'd have to get up and do another two hours. 202 00:08:33,549 --> 00:08:37,588 Speaker 3: Rowing, Oh I can't, I just I just I don't 203 00:08:37,588 --> 00:08:40,709 Speaker 3: get this, guys, I don't get it at all. I'm 204 00:08:40,748 --> 00:08:44,868 Speaker 3: impressed iled. So can I ask was there ever a 205 00:08:44,988 --> 00:08:46,629 Speaker 3: momentere you feed for your lives where you were like, 206 00:08:46,909 --> 00:08:49,508 Speaker 3: you know, this is God enough now, like this is 207 00:08:49,388 --> 00:08:51,069 Speaker 3: this is not is not the fun that we thought 208 00:08:51,069 --> 00:08:51,428 Speaker 3: it would be. 209 00:08:51,828 --> 00:08:54,509 Speaker 7: We definitely didn't have any moments where we were scared, 210 00:08:55,069 --> 00:08:56,708 Speaker 7: but we had a lot of moments where we were 211 00:08:56,708 --> 00:08:58,708 Speaker 7: really frustrated just because of the amount of things that 212 00:08:58,748 --> 00:09:01,349 Speaker 7: went wrong. Our rudder broke and we had to restart. 213 00:09:01,429 --> 00:09:03,949 Speaker 7: We had parishes throughout, so we're pretty much dead ship. 214 00:09:04,748 --> 00:09:07,549 Speaker 7: We also the water maker pipes burst nine times, and 215 00:09:07,549 --> 00:09:11,028 Speaker 7: then the bird I didn't see water maker filter also 216 00:09:11,069 --> 00:09:13,948 Speaker 7: fell off, and Memes repaired that with a pair of knickers. 217 00:09:17,069 --> 00:09:20,069 Speaker 5: A lot of problem solving throughout were we argued. 218 00:09:20,108 --> 00:09:21,588 Speaker 2: Did you argue at any point? 219 00:09:21,988 --> 00:09:24,149 Speaker 5: No, no, no, there's nothing to argue about. 220 00:09:24,268 --> 00:09:26,708 Speaker 3: We were just not when you're talking about your favorite cake, 221 00:09:26,868 --> 00:09:29,148 Speaker 3: I suppose I could find about that. 222 00:09:29,228 --> 00:09:30,069 Speaker 4: I don't find about that. 223 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:30,868 Speaker 2: The only chat. 224 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:37,309 Speaker 3: Well, guys, it's seriously impressive. Congratulations for both of us. 225 00:09:38,149 --> 00:09:40,389 Speaker 3: Is just one of the best things that I've ever heard. 226 00:09:40,468 --> 00:09:41,669 Speaker 3: I just can't believe you did it. 227 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:43,469 Speaker 4: You're done with rowing there? Or what's next? 228 00:09:43,988 --> 00:09:48,588 Speaker 5: Oh no, we'd love to do it again. To be fair, I. 229 00:09:48,868 --> 00:09:51,508 Speaker 3: Didn't get out more go and do something fun in 230 00:09:51,628 --> 00:09:54,749 Speaker 3: can's something fun? Go? 231 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:57,789 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Just stay at the beach, just chill, 232 00:09:57,988 --> 00:09:58,748 Speaker 2: just for a second. 233 00:09:59,868 --> 00:10:03,669 Speaker 6: It can't be good Yeah, were very good at chilling out. 234 00:10:03,789 --> 00:10:06,069 Speaker 2: I'm getting that sense. All the guys have been loving 235 00:10:06,069 --> 00:10:06,669 Speaker 2: to meet you. 236 00:10:06,789 --> 00:10:10,989 Speaker 3: Jess and Miriam free go off rowing across the Pacific Ocean. 237 00:10:11,069 --> 00:10:13,789 Speaker 3: That is just an extraordinary sentence from Peru to Cans 238 00:10:14,468 --> 00:10:17,028 Speaker 3: in five point four months, on hundred and sixty five days. Guys, 239 00:10:17,108 --> 00:10:19,429 Speaker 3: congratulations again, thanks so much joining us with them, Wary