WEBVTT - Did Tammy Hembrow Just Soft Launch Her Divorce? 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken. Is your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, did Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>Hembro just soft launch her divorce and a macavoy's strategic

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<v Speaker 1>baby announcement for first three months. After sensationally dethroning Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>most popular influencer, Mikayla Tester has revealed she's leaving Australia

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<v Speaker 1>for good now. Mikayla moves around a lot, but her

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<v Speaker 1>home base has always been Australia and she speaks really

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<v Speaker 1>highly of Australia on her TikTok. But this week she

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<v Speaker 1>told her two point eight million followers that she no

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<v Speaker 1>longer feels safe here and is leaving due to youth crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a listened to what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Australia. I think it's one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful countries in the world, but it is just not

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<v Speaker 2>what it.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The youth crime in this town where I live is

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking bad and everyone knows where I live and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to live. I love Australia. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the most beautiful countries in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is just not what it.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The youth crime in this town where I live it's

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking bad and everyone knows where I live, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to live here anymore. Ushers the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to live in Australia anymore. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe here and every time I move somewhere, people

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<v Speaker 2>find out.

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<v Speaker 4>Where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems to be an issue for a lot of influences.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be really difficult to balance sharing about your

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<v Speaker 1>life and being really open but not giving away where

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<v Speaker 1>you live, particularly for lifestyle influencers who have to share

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<v Speaker 1>within their home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does seem to be a growing issue with influencers.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean just this week Chloe Zepp and Mitch Orvial

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<v Speaker 4>announced that they're moving to Newcastle and the reason behind

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<v Speaker 4>that decision was because they were involved in a home

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<v Speaker 4>invasion a couple of years ago because people knew where

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<v Speaker 4>they lived. So they're also looking for a bit more

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<v Speaker 4>privacy now.

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<v Speaker 1>On an international front, UK influencer Saffron Barker recently spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about how her home was robbed while she was on

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday, so it definitely seems to be a growing

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<v Speaker 1>issue for a lot of influencers. Mikayla said that her

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<v Speaker 1>front door at this rental property is made of glass

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<v Speaker 1>and she will often hear people yelling things to her

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<v Speaker 1>from the street. She did say most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>it has actually been supportive, but other times it's been

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<v Speaker 1>degrading comments about her job as a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 4>And it seems like this type of behavior almost turned

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<v Speaker 4>Mikayla into a bit of a recluse because during the

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<v Speaker 4>whole Anna poul saga earlier this year, she didn't leave

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<v Speaker 4>her house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she really bunkered down at home. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>she has received such an outpouring of support for speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out against the polls and also she's now seen as

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<v Speaker 1>this person who's advocated for sexual assault victims. But that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, even though it's all positive, she will attract

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more attention now when she's out in public

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<v Speaker 1>because she's so well known. And the thing that would

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<v Speaker 1>make it quite uncomfortable for her is she has bared

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of her soul online due to this Anna

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<v Speaker 1>pol stuff. She has opened up about the abuse that

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<v Speaker 1>she has allegedly suffered at the hands of Adams Paul

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<v Speaker 1>and it would be hard to guy in public knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone knows your business. You would feel like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at you and people were talking about you,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that wasn't necessarily the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think she'll be able to keep a lower

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<v Speaker 4>profile overseat. It also means there's less chance of her

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<v Speaker 4>running into the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. They all still live on the

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Coast, and even though they do spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the year traveling, there is the off chance they

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<v Speaker 1>would run into each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I suppose they socialize in similar circles as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I was really surprised to hear she's moving to Germany,

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<v Speaker 4>mainly because that's where the Paul family is originally from.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been spending a lot of time there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe she fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with the country when she traveled there with them a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, she already has a unit in Frankfurt and

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<v Speaker 1>she's also been learning German for the past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was more surprised to find out that she's not

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<v Speaker 1>moving to the US, as that's where her fiance Max

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<v Speaker 1>is from, and she has always gushed about how much

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<v Speaker 1>she loves America and would love to be their full time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there's been some issues with her visa.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, recently she was talking about how her and Max

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<v Speaker 4>had been kind of arguing about whether they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to live in Australia or the US, and he really

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<v Speaker 4>wants to go back and be with his family. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>wondering if that will happen when they finally get married.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got a green card.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think they're waiting to get married before

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<v Speaker 1>making the move to the US. Now, after sharing the

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<v Speaker 1>news that she's leaving Australia, Mikayla decided to put up

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<v Speaker 1>a house tour and I have to say the rental

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<v Speaker 1>that she has been living at for the past few

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<v Speaker 1>years is absolutely epic. It looks like a literal Pinterest

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<v Speaker 1>board and unsurprisingly this house is available for photo shoots.

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<v Speaker 1>It had this real Moroccan vibe to it. It was massive.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I know her bedroom very well because

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<v Speaker 4>that's where she shot five hours of her YouTube expose

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<v Speaker 4>on Anna poul. It almost to me looked like a

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<v Speaker 4>Barley villa that she was staying a well.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bit of flat because when I recently

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<v Speaker 1>shared that Mikayla tester was wearing triangle bikinis. I said

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<v Speaker 1>that she shared a photo from her holiday in Bora Bora,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was actually a photo from her house. So

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<v Speaker 1>from in front of her pool, which literally looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a villa, it is the most stunning backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>How much does this place cost?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unsurprisingly, it does cost a lot of money. So

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<v Speaker 1>her rent is two seven hundred dollars a week. She

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that to a follower. So a lot of followers

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the sums and saying, well, that's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen eight hundred dollars a year just on rent.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm guessing she's making bank on her OnlyFans, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's probably not that much for her. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A follower did point out though, that while this house

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible, there was a rather awkward set up in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. So the bathroom had no door that blocked

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<v Speaker 1>off the toilet.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that it meant that she and her fiance

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<v Speaker 1>Max got to know each other very well, very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just been dealing with some heavy stuff and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like people can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears Tammy Henbury is a step closer to confirming

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<v Speaker 1>her breakup with Matt Szakowski. On Tuesday, the OJI Australian

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<v Speaker 1>influencer broke down in tears, admitting to her seventeen million

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<v Speaker 1>followers that she's dealing with something heavy. Kate, the writing

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<v Speaker 1>has been on the wall for a couple of months now,

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<v Speaker 1>surely this is confirmation. It really felt like a divorced

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<v Speaker 1>soft launch, and this is coming off the back of

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<v Speaker 1>months of bizarre behavior. Tammy and Matt couldn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>any clearer that they're living in separate states, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>appeared on each other's socials.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there's a constant unfollowing and re following, and Tammy

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<v Speaker 4>ramped it up further this week, posting more cryptic clues.

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<v Speaker 4>So last week she was singing to get Away Car

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<v Speaker 4>by Taylor Swift and this week she was singing to

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<v Speaker 4>man Child by Sabrina Carpenter. Here's a clip of the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 4>She was singing to.

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<v Speaker 3>My boys and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Get an a lie mo man, I'll in competition.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear they choose me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not using them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely iconic because Sabrina Carpenter actually ended up re

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<v Speaker 1>sharing this clip.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if the message wasn't clear enough, there On Monday night,

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<v Speaker 4>Tammy shared a very telling quote that said, when something

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<v Speaker 4>feels off, it is, and she added underneath a woman's intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're deep in your breakup phase when you're

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<v Speaker 1>searching quotes like this on Instagram and doing the reshare,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you I know? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Tammy's appearance on an Instagram story on Tuesday morning was

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<v Speaker 4>the real nail in the coffin. So she started out

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<v Speaker 4>chatting to the cameras she made breakfast, and from the

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<v Speaker 4>get go she seemed really flat And I originally thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was one of those fake chats influencers do when

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<v Speaker 4>they need to plug their products, and maybe that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it actually was to begin with, because she started plugging

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<v Speaker 4>a supplement brand and a fitness app. However, when she

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<v Speaker 4>sat down with her breakfast, things got real. So Tammy

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<v Speaker 4>thanked her followers for their support and conceded that she's

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<v Speaker 4>been going through a difficult time. Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>I also just want to jump on and say like

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<v Speaker 3>thank you to everyone because I've just been dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>some heavy stuff and I feel like people can tell,

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<v Speaker 3>like I definitely don't like to like pretend I'm okay

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm notn I feel like I have been to

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<v Speaker 3>do that for a little while, because you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>have so much that I have to focus on, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like it's doing me more harm than good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say thank you. I am, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>feeling positive today. And you know, I don't really like

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<v Speaker 3>to talk too much about stuff like when I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>the midst of it, just because it can feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it can put even like more pressure and feel even

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<v Speaker 3>more overwhelming. So I just want to like go with

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<v Speaker 3>emotions of it all kind of thing, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it at some point later when you are

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, I'm trying to do this without like,

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<v Speaker 3>because when you are dealing with things, whatever it may be,

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<v Speaker 3>whether works, just have to get your personal life, just

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<v Speaker 3>own personal internal struggles or whatever it may be. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like having an online community like you guys just

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<v Speaker 3>is really helpful and just makes.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel Now. It was at that point that the

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story cut out, and I think it's quite clear

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<v Speaker 1>that things to Scott too much for Tammy. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like she was about to break down in tears, and

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<v Speaker 1>rather than returning on camera, Tammy wrote on her Instagram story. Sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get through it with crying face emojis. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say is I really appreciate you all, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're going through something, having an online community

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<v Speaker 1>like you guys can really just help to make you

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<v Speaker 1>feel less alone. So I really appreciate that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take that for granted. And I love you all

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, there will be some naysayers that'll say Tammy didn't

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<v Speaker 4>specify that she was talking about her marriage, and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>something else is troubling her. I personally am ninety nine

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<v Speaker 4>percent sure that this is about Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. We shared this on our TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and also our Instagram, and there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy followers who were saying, there's potentially a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that she could be talking about. I mean, recently

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<v Speaker 1>last week we touched on her scandal involving the camels

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<v Speaker 1>in Egypt. There's also been some dramas surrounding her brother.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot going on, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is quite clear that this is about her relationship

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown with Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the timing of it all was very telling.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this is her way of addressing the

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<v Speaker 4>Matt situation ahead of some big milestone events. So Tammy

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<v Speaker 4>spoke about how it's her daughter Posey's third birthday on

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend and she's holding a birthday party. Matt also

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<v Speaker 4>has a big birthday coming up. He's turning thirty on

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<v Speaker 4>the third of July, and he spoke about having a

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas in July themed party months ago, so he's already

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<v Speaker 4>been away for Tammy and Wolfe's birthday as well as Easter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it's at this point she's really had

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<v Speaker 4>to come out and say, look, something's not quite right,

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<v Speaker 4>and it seems like she is following a very similar

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<v Speaker 4>strategy to how she dealt with her breakup from her

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<v Speaker 4>former fiance Matt Paul. The other Matt Matt Paul suddenly

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<v Speaker 4>was nowhere to be seen and basically just got phased

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<v Speaker 4>out of her social media very slowly. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>despite the fact that the couple had just welcomed their

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<v Speaker 4>daughter Posey together and Tammy basically didn't say anything until

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<v Speaker 4>it was so obvious that she didn't really need to

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<v Speaker 4>make this huge announcement. Yeah, and this is totally what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening at the moment. I mean, she said herself she

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't like talking about things when she's in the midst

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<v Speaker 4>of them happening, so I think that when maybe things

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<v Speaker 4>have calmed down, she will address it. I'm interested, though,

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<v Speaker 4>because I've read her book and she spoke about how

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<v Speaker 4>she's never going to go into the details about her

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<v Speaker 4>breakups with Rhyese Hawkins and Matt Paul because she has

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<v Speaker 4>children with them, But she doesn't have children with Matt Sakowski.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wonder if that will change her approach about

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<v Speaker 4>dishing the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I hope she goes in hard. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what has really been going on. There has

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<v Speaker 1>been a bit speculation that the couple can't actually announce

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<v Speaker 1>their separation due to their deal with Vogue, so they

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively gave the publication their wedding story back in November

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<v Speaker 1>last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I highly doubt it. I don't think Vogue has the

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<v Speaker 4>power to put these types of things into a contract.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean TV shows like The Bachelotte can because that's

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<v Speaker 4>how the couple met, and they signed contracts before they

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<v Speaker 4>go on and find the love of their life.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more that Tammy and Matt would be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to save face. They know that if they come

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<v Speaker 1>out and that their marriage only lasted three months, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks way worse than if they can say that this

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<v Speaker 1>marriage lasted a year or eight months or whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be. Yeah, it's pretty interesting because Influence Updates AU

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<v Speaker 1>put a post up about what Tammy said, and Tammy's

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<v Speaker 1>best friend Isabelle Laws liked it. I mean that speaks

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<v Speaker 1>volumes to me. Yeah, I am wondering if perhaps Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt finalized things on the weekend, because it does

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<v Speaker 1>appear as though Matt flew into the Gold Coast because

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<v Speaker 1>he shared that he was at a Gold Coast brewery

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<v Speaker 1>watching the footy, as he seems to be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of. Tammy also posted around the same time with

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<v Speaker 1>a face mask on asking for documentary recommendations, so they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't spending time together, but perhaps they had a prior

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<v Speaker 1>meetup to iron out a few of the things going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Matt has been lying pretty low on socials.

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<v Speaker 4>He did the most horrendous ad I've ever seen. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a lie. He also did one for Koala Mattresses recently,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was so bad that it got over one

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<v Speaker 4>million views on TikTok because everyone was shitcanning it in

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<v Speaker 4>the confin.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's ad for the numbing cream for his tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>removal on his arms. That was very borrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, there's been a string of really bad ads anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>His most recent ad was promoting a shower caddy, which

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<v Speaker 4>made me laugh and I need to throw to the

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<v Speaker 4>audio to give it justice.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe this man has a podcast like an

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<v Speaker 4>audio platform like. His voiceovers are so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>If this isn't a big enough sign that they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce, I don't know what is. Because he's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>desperate for cash and he needs to do the attack.

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<v Speaker 4>He adds, it's so bad. Now someone commented under the video,

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<v Speaker 4>notice the left hand is hiding, to which Matt replied, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Sherlock Holmes, I actually don't shower with my ring on,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's none of your business now. There was a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a back and forth, and Matt hit back

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<v Speaker 4>to the commenter, saying that they had a sad life

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<v Speaker 4>caring about other people's relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, why is he responding? It seems like he's desperate

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<v Speaker 1>to build up some engagement on this post because it

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<v Speaker 1>is an ad.

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<v Speaker 4>But do you notice none of them ever shut it

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<v Speaker 4>down and say we are still together? They just leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's fantastic for their engagement. People want to go

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<v Speaker 1>and check out their pages. I know I'm constantly looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Tammy's page to see if she's taken down missus

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<v Speaker 1>Zakowski from her bio and to see if she's following Matt. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of those sad people, but I say

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<v Speaker 1>it is for my job, but this is the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to attract people's attention. I mean, if Tammy Hembro

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have as many relationship breakdowns as she has had,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she would still be so relevant. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no one is tuning in for the constant stream of

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<v Speaker 1>ads about Tammy Fit or Saski or all this new

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<v Speaker 1>supplement's company.

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<v Speaker 4>Just back to Matt's hands for a second. I was

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<v Speaker 4>listening to a pre recorded episode of his podcast Where's

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<v Speaker 4>Your Head At? And he went on this rant about

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<v Speaker 4>how nice his hands are and that they look really manly.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Oh, it was so cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is he playing up his wrestler character there? Because

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<v Speaker 1>listeners will remember a couple of weeks ago that we

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about how Matt is into amateur wrestling and a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago he played a character who had apparently

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<v Speaker 1>won the genetic lottery or is that just him?

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<v Speaker 4>That's just him? It actually reminded me of that Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 4>episode where George becomes a hand model and.

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<v Speaker 1>Ends up burning them.

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to Tammy. Do you think her breaking down

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram this week could be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>damage control? Also for not showing up at a supplement

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<v Speaker 4>brand's activation, because on Friday night her and a sisters

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<v Speaker 4>flew out to Sydney and they were meant to be

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<v Speaker 4>hosting this activation for their supplement brand Selfish at Bondai. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the trip didn't really get off to a good start

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<v Speaker 4>because their flight was delayed and they ended up arriving

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<v Speaker 4>at their hotel to find that it had a nightclub

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<v Speaker 4>underneath it, which wasn't really conducive with them having to

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<v Speaker 4>get up at five am. Now, Tammy was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>lead a workout on Bondai Beach with one hundred Lucky

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<v Speaker 4>competition winners. However, she didn't show up and her manager

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<v Speaker 4>told fans she was feeling unwell and wouldn't be attending.

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<v Speaker 4>Emily and Amy still appeared though, and according to people

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<v Speaker 4>who attended the event, they just didn't have the same

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<v Speaker 4>pulling power as Tammy, so there really weren't that many

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<v Speaker 4>people there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised to see how empty it was. If

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<v Speaker 1>you think back to the crowds that Anna Paul drew

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<v Speaker 1>when she did a shopping center appearance, it was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>on that, even.

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<v Speaker 4>Her appearances with high Smile. I remember she did one

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<v Speaker 4>before Taylor Swift's errors to her and it was absolutely packed.

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<v Speaker 4>They had security guards there. It appears that Tammy made

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<v Speaker 4>an appearance at the end of this event so that

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<v Speaker 4>she could appear in the promotional photos, and fans were

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<v Speaker 4>less than impressed with this event. Many people complained about

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<v Speaker 4>the lack of products on offer to taste, as well

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<v Speaker 4>as the fact that hats were given out as prizes,

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<v Speaker 4>and one fan shared that they were so upset because

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<v Speaker 4>they spent one hundred dollars on an Uber to get

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<v Speaker 4>to Bondi and didn't even get to take home a

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<v Speaker 4>sample of the rotein powder. The only thing that they

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<v Speaker 4>got was a hat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you'd want to be wearing one

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<v Speaker 1>of those hats. They have been compared to Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>Maga hats, so it's probably not the best look. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we think that Tammy Hembrew was legitimately sick because Michael

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit on that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a rumor going around that perhaps she met up

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<v Speaker 4>with Matt the night before. I don't know how Matt

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<v Speaker 4>was suddenly in Sydney. He lives in Melbourne, so it

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<v Speaker 4>might be a little bit of a stretch. Maybe she's

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<v Speaker 4>just going through it at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine how pissed off her sisters would have

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<v Speaker 1>been because that would have put so much extra pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on them and is just so obvious, particularly when there's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool time of five am. I'm sorry the person

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<v Speaker 1>is not sick. They either just don't want to get up,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to face it, or something is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in their personal life.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Tammy does have a chance to redeem herself this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>So in Brisbane, Selfish is doing another pop up in

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<v Speaker 4>the Queen Street Mall. I'll be interested to see how

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<v Speaker 4>that one goes there.

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<v Speaker 1>The two life again so good.

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<v Speaker 5>In scrass It's your Birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>After keeping followers in suspense for almost a week, Anna

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<v Speaker 4>McAvoy finally announced the arrival of her baby boy and

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<v Speaker 4>his much anticipated name. The reality contestant turned fake Tan

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<v Speaker 4>entrepreneur cleverly took advantage of the peak engagement, simultaneously dropping

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<v Speaker 4>baby updates alongside details of a new product launch. So,

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<v Speaker 4>despite building up the hype, sadly, Anna was pipped at

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<v Speaker 4>the post when it came to the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Reveal That's right. Instagram account influencer updates Au received a

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<v Speaker 1>rather strong tip off about the baby name on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and she decided to share it with her subscribers. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the post, the watchdog account also revealed that Anna

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<v Speaker 1>had most likely given birth to her baby boy a

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<v Speaker 1>week earlier because a handful of followers had spotted them

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<v Speaker 1>out and about now. The Instagram story revealing the name

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<v Speaker 1>didn't last long and was removed about half an hour later.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is that Anna or her husband Michael reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to Amber demanding that she take it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can understand that she's waited so long,

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<v Speaker 4>and she has really been trying to pump it up,

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<v Speaker 4>because leading into her birth, she was asking followers to

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<v Speaker 4>guess the name, and she kept talking on her podcast

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<v Speaker 4>about how no one had guessed it right now. The

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<v Speaker 4>tip off ended up being bang on. On Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 4>the couple revealed they named their son Swede Ashton Staples,

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<v Speaker 4>sharing a cute photo of his little foot, as well

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<v Speaker 4>as a family snap following the sea section. Note have

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<v Speaker 4>you ever seen such a glamorous sea section photo? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling a bit of pressure here because I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>long away from him having my sea section, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>holy fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked incredibly glamorous.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, she looked absolutely stunning. I thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it made me pissed off because I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I looked like shit, I looked like a foot, had

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<v Speaker 4>no map on, no town, I had no Goldiebee tan on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think most of us probably look I know, but

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, let's be fair, she is a model.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, in the comments section of this name announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>a follower shared their disappointment, writing, fortunately someone ruined it

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<v Speaker 1>and commented on your last post revealing his name beautiful name.

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<v Speaker 1>Though now I want to point out that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Amber from influencer Updates AAU, but presumably one of her

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<v Speaker 1>subscribers who was commenting the name on Anna's page. Anna

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<v Speaker 1>ended up responding to that comment, writing, I know with

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<v Speaker 1>a crying face and broken heart emojis. It did make

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<v Speaker 1>me feel quite sad for her, as you say, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>because revealing your child's name it must be such a

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<v Speaker 1>special moment and one that they have waited for for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a double whemy in this case as well,

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<v Speaker 4>because she was really trying to get engagement off it,

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<v Speaker 4>and particularly because it's a very unusual name. So I

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<v Speaker 4>personally was quite surprised when I heard it. Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 4>I love traditional name, so Swade is never really going

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<v Speaker 4>to be, you know, up there on my list. Each

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<v Speaker 4>to their own. But I did see someone point out

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<v Speaker 4>that it sounded like a Bets and Bets winter collection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but Swede's.

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<v Speaker 1>Staples like, Oh, I really don't think that this was

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<v Speaker 1>the name revealed that she was hoping for. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she quite anticipated the wave of negativity that

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<v Speaker 1>was set to come her way, because quite a number

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<v Speaker 1>of animal activists weighed in questioning why she would name

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<v Speaker 1>her son after such a cruel practice. One follower wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>if people knew how cruel Swede is, no one would

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<v Speaker 1>want to name a newborn baby with that horrible name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's associated with evil. Bainly from Warrior for Animals, who

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke about on last week's episode in relation to

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy's camel incident, he shed his thoughts, writing, terrible name

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<v Speaker 1>for many reasons, but particularly concerning a Swede is animal skin,

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<v Speaker 1>and her son could become uncomfortable with that due to

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<v Speaker 1>becoming concerned about animal welfare a Vegan fashion week banning

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<v Speaker 1>animal skin. It is a name that if the child

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<v Speaker 1>grows up to have values against that material will make

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<v Speaker 1>them feel uncomfortable. It's like naming a child Bacon but

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<v Speaker 1>then becoming a vegan or deciding to be Muslim.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was a case of bad timing for

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<v Speaker 4>Anna macavoy, coming off the back of all the animal

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<v Speaker 4>activists focusing on Tammy hem Bro's behavior in Egypt. I

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<v Speaker 4>think maybe she wouldn't have got this outpouring of negativity

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<v Speaker 4>if you know, they hadn't been watching so closely. There's

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<v Speaker 4>also been a lot of discussion and debate around her

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<v Speaker 4>strategy for sharing this birth announcement, particularly because she has

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<v Speaker 4>been doing it alongside continual promotions around her fake tanning company,

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<v Speaker 4>Goldie b. I mean, for influencers, name reveals and birth

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<v Speaker 4>announcements are huge business. These occasions are always going to

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<v Speaker 4>deliver and influencer their biggest engagement boost, and ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to lead them to having more followers and increasing

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<v Speaker 4>their revenue. It has been very clear through Anna's pregnancy

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<v Speaker 4>that she is keen to move into this motherhood space.

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<v Speaker 4>She's released a mothering podcast. The majority of her content

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at TikTok is all around her pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that a lot of women and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of our listeners who are pregnant have really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>following her journey, and she's been quite successful at sharing

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<v Speaker 4>this type of content, and I think it has been

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<v Speaker 4>really fascinating to watch the way that she has chosen

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<v Speaker 4>to roll out this birth announcement because she's probably one

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<v Speaker 4>of the first Ossie influences I've seen bread crummet to

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<v Speaker 4>this extent. Sarah's Day was a fiend for this when

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<v Speaker 4>she gave birth to her first son, Fox around six

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. But more recently influences have been doing pared

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<v Speaker 4>back birth announcements, and I think it's because it's a

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<v Speaker 4>bit taboon now to be seen to be exploiting the

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<v Speaker 4>birth of your child and exploiting that child, well, it's

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<v Speaker 4>seen as being a bit opportunistic and as if you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to push your own agenda and your own brand

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<v Speaker 4>now getting into the way that Anna shared her announcement.

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<v Speaker 4>It first started last week when she shared a video

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<v Speaker 4>of herself being wheeled in for her cesarean and in

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<v Speaker 4>the clip, she minded to the viral song oh my God,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having a baby, and she captured the post it's

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<v Speaker 4>happening now. The next day, she then uploaded another reel

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<v Speaker 4>where she and her husband transition from their clothes into

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<v Speaker 4>their hospital gown and she captioned its c section incoming now.

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<v Speaker 4>It was another further three days before she actually announced

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<v Speaker 4>her son's safe arrival, writing here he is our.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest love Now. In this video, she shared close up

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<v Speaker 1>shots of Swede's lips, and I have to say, this

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<v Speaker 1>baby looks absolutely gorgeous. His lips are enormous. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a model baby. He's stunning.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they really stood out to me as well, I

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<v Speaker 4>suppose because they were the focus of the video. It's

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<v Speaker 4>interesting that she's not showing his face. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 4>that will continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we did have to wait a further twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours after that post before we got the big name reveal,

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<v Speaker 1>which attracted twenty eight thousand likes, the most out of

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<v Speaker 1>any of her posts. And what has been really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this drip feeding of this baby news is that

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<v Speaker 1>Anna has been making sure to simultaneously share posts about

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<v Speaker 1>her business's new product, which is conveniently launching on the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth of June, so in a few days. As we said,

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<v Speaker 1>she does own a fake tan company and they are

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<v Speaker 1>launching a new ground dul tanner, And it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an ad sandwich. So, for instance, when Anna

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<v Speaker 1>finally shared her son's name, she reshared that post to

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram story and wrote his name is dot dot dot,

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<v Speaker 1>So that Instagram story would have attracted a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>views and a lot of attention. It was then followed

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<v Speaker 1>immediately by a slide which provided an early access link

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<v Speaker 1>to her new gradual tanner. She then fothered it up

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<v Speaker 1>by resharing another family snap to her Instagram story, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was then immediately followed by another screenshot of a

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<v Speaker 1>positive review about GOLDIEB.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I noticed this too, and I found it quite overt

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<v Speaker 4>like I've never seen an influencer do it that obviously before.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had quite a few listeners writing in saying that

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<v Speaker 1>they felt a bit icky about it, and originally I

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<v Speaker 1>did too, until I really sat with it and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I feel this way? And it actually made

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<v Speaker 1>me change my opinion because Anna is a new mum

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<v Speaker 1>who is embarking on maternity leave, and anyone who runs

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<v Speaker 1>their own business and is forced to take government funded

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>maternity leaf knows that the pay is very minimal. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a struggle to live off that paycheck. I was

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<v Speaker 1>really shocked to see how little women receive, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider that women giving birth before the first of

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<v Speaker 1>July also receive no payment towards their super during that time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just so disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to point out though it's progressively getting better,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a very positive step that super will now

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<v Speaker 4>be included as of July one, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's absolutely ridiculous, though, that women on

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave are being paid minimum wage when you consider

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<v Speaker 1>how high mortgages are and how ridiculous the cost of

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>living is at the moment, and it just made me think,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it a bad thing that Anna is hustling

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<v Speaker 1>and hustling hard in the lead up to her birth.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's a really savvy business move from her,

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<v Speaker 1>because why wouldn't you strike when you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>have optimal eyeballs on your page and interest in what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. And I think with the influence of landscape

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>being so overseatactuated, we're really living in a time where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a real disparity between what influences are earning. And

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<v Speaker 1>for Anna, when you look at where she lives, she

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>lives in a fairly modest apartment. I would assume that

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<v Speaker 1>she's not making megabucks off her influencer career. I mean,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>she'd be making decent money, but not amazing money. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is so hard for mums to keep

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<v Speaker 1>their businesses and side hustles going during the early stages

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<v Speaker 1>of motherhood, So why not utilize your social media following

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<v Speaker 1>at the most optimal time for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so if you're about to embark on maternity leave.

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<v Speaker 4>I have experienced it recently and we both own businesses.

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<v Speaker 4>It's bloody difficult, and I think if a male was

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<v Speaker 4>doing this, people wouldn't even notice it. They'd be like whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think we do hold women to a certain account,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly when they become mums, because it's like, well, how

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<v Speaker 4>dare you use this beautiful moment as a chance to

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 4>plug your business? But guess what, She's trying to earn

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 4>money to look after her baby. And I think it's

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 4>pretty clever the way she has been plugging her brand.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I have been on the about purchasing it myself, and

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 4>some of the reviews I'm like, well, maybe I will

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<v Speaker 4>pull the trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the tactic does seem to be working for

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>her because over the last thirty days, her following has

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>grown by three two hundred followers.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into our Friday debrief and Sophie, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 4>really sad because this is your last podcast episode before

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<v Speaker 4>you give birth.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so weird, like it's all coming around so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think because Amy's been on leave and I've

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>been really tuned into both of the businesses and it's

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>taken up all of my attention. I've almost forgotten that

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to have a baby. So I don't like

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>letting go of the podcast. I just I feel a

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>bit emotional that I'm not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the mics for a couple of weeks. I

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>am hoping that I'm going to be able to make

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<v Speaker 1>some cameo appearances and pop up here and there along

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the way. We actually did splash out and buy a

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<v Speaker 1>recorder each, so now we've got a separate recorder out

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<v Speaker 1>of house, which we should have done bloody years ago,

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>particularly maybe Kate when you had Jack, because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>so much easier to record from home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's going to be a game changer

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 4>for us. Now we just need to sync up all

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 4>of the boys' naps. Yeah, and we'll be fine. We

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 4>won't even know slit piece of Pits, I'm sure not.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I am really excited for the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. A little bit scared, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will be really exciting and I can't wait to meet

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<v Speaker 1>my little boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I actually have my little boy sitting on my

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<v Speaker 4>lap at the moment because we are recording from home

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and someone had to get up from their nap, so

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 4>he is absolutely loving trying to grab the microphone off me. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we can record when they are awake,

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<v Speaker 4>because this is quite difficult. But I have Jack's first

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<v Speaker 4>birthday party this weekend and I am so excited for it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been making lollibags. I'm set to make the cake

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<v Speaker 4>today and I've decided to make the Teddy Bear cake

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 4>from the Women's Weekly Cookbook, and the other day I

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<v Speaker 4>picked up this big cake board to put it on.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got all the lollies ready to go. I have

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<v Speaker 4>actually been eating some of them, so I might have

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<v Speaker 4>to do a restock, but I'm just so excited. I've

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<v Speaker 4>always dreapt of the moment to make my son's first

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 4>birthday cake, so it's very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's going to be some meltdowns tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think that that is an easy cake

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<v Speaker 1>to make. You did ask me whether you should do

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<v Speaker 1>the one or the Teddy Bear. My vote was for

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the one because you're trying to avoid any mistakes. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited for Jack's birthday. Well, the one can

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>always be a backup, so if I do end up

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>posting a photo of the one cake, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It hasn't worked out well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is all we have time for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be being on the Mac with everyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully I will be back soon, especially to share my

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<v Speaker 1>birth episode, which I'm sure we'll record in the not

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>too distant future. But thank you again for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to

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<v Speaker 1>Elder's past and present

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<v Speaker 4>A