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Speaker 1: Read the flick with ben.

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Speaker 2: O'she well, I have for one been looking forward to this, yes,

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Speaker 2: well right sure today one of the most anticipated movies

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Speaker 2: of the year Joker Folly Adu, which is.

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Speaker 3: Jaquim Phoenix reprising his character of Arthur Fleck who becomes Joker.

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Speaker 3: The first film came out in twenty nineteen. It was

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Speaker 3: so different, it was great, so different to what we've

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Speaker 3: seen from the Batman universe in the past, and certainly

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Speaker 3: from the character of the Joker, played of course by

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Speaker 3: the great Heath Ledger, who's not with us anymore Jack

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Speaker 3: Nicholson back in the day nineteen ninety and Heath Ledger's

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Speaker 3: Dark Knights, Remember, Yeah, that's right, exactly exactly person in

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Speaker 3: the Room No.

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Speaker 1: One by Caesar Romero and Heath Ledgers.

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Speaker 3: Joker was amazing, Like he won a posthumous Oscar for that,

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Speaker 3: and he's the best supporting actor role and he was

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Speaker 3: really really good. But what Jakim Phoenix did with the

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Speaker 3: character is so different. Under director Todd Phillips. He lost

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Speaker 3: a ton of weight. He was sort of really playing

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Speaker 3: a mentally ill loner living with his mum, downtrodden, beaten up,

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Speaker 3: bullied and kind of retreats into himself and discovers this

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Speaker 3: kind of joker persona which allows him to, you know,

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Speaker 3: sort of, I guess, find a place in the world

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Speaker 3: and stand up for himself. It was criticized at the

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Speaker 3: time as it could be a bit of a manifesto

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Speaker 3: for real world kind of loaners, because we see sometimes

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Speaker 3: these people can then commit real, real life violence. There's

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Speaker 3: no evidence that that happened. So, but it was an

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Speaker 3: incredible film. Wack in Phoenix won an Oscar for Best Actor.

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Speaker 3: The Girlfriend Fantasy was just amazing, wasn't it was? It

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Speaker 3: was a really really good film, beautiful to watch. Cinematography

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Speaker 3: was incredible, made a billion dollars of the box office.

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Speaker 2: Very scene one of stairs, in the scenes on stairs.

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Speaker 1: Even even if it did feature Gary Glitter right about that.

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Speaker 3: Long cuts and then along comes this second film and

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are trying to figure out what

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Speaker 3: it is from the trailer because it looks like it

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Speaker 3: is a musical.

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Speaker 2: And that was the first thing that everyone heard, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a musical.

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Speaker 1: It is. It is a musical. And you might think

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Speaker 1: I was singing in the rain.

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Speaker 3: No, although they do kind of just like a musical

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Speaker 3: they do spontaneously break out into song during the physical

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Speaker 3: like Chicago. You know tango well and the key is

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Speaker 3: the title of the film, So Folly a jew right,

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Speaker 3: which is a fancy French way of describing a real

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Speaker 3: psychiatric syndrome called shared delusion disorder, which is basically where

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Speaker 3: a psychosis or a delusion is shared or transmitted between people.

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Speaker 3: So you think about that and you go, Okay, now

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to figure out that maybe some of these

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Speaker 3: dance and song sequences are not real. They're not actually happening,

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Speaker 3: the delusions on the minds of.

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Speaker 1: Tootle to people each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly why qu In Phoenix's character Arthur Fleck and

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Speaker 3: this love interest that he meets in Arkham Asylum where

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Speaker 3: he's been locked up for all the murders he committed

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Speaker 3: in the first film, played of course by Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 3: She's playing a character called Lee full name Harlen Quinzel,

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Speaker 3: a bit familiar. That's Harley Quinn of course, the Marcter

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Speaker 3: made famous by Margot Robbie. Lady Gaga could not be

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Speaker 3: more different from what Robbie brought to that character. So

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Speaker 3: she is someone who's a firebug she's obsessed with Joker,

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Speaker 3: and so they kind of, you know, get together, have

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Speaker 3: this bad romance.

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Speaker 1: There's a Lady Gargar reference and then it goes on.

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Speaker 1: But that's not all that's going on. So as well as.

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Speaker 3: As well as so as well as this this kind

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Speaker 3: of romance and these dance numbers, it's also telling the

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Speaker 3: story of Joker facing trial for his crimes. So fifty

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Speaker 3: of the films a courtroom drama. I'm telling you strange.

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Speaker 3: It is a strange film. All the different elements that

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Speaker 3: you got going on. And in the trial, you know,

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Speaker 3: sort of Arthur Fleck is kind of try and deal

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Speaker 3: with does he stand trial as you know, sort of

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Speaker 3: this mentally ill guy who was abused as a kid,

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Speaker 3: has got all this trauma it's kind of pathetic. Or

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Speaker 3: does he embrace the Joker and stand trial as this

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Speaker 3: powerful guy who knew what he was doing the whole time.

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Speaker 3: And Lady Gaga is you know, she's she's like, well,

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Speaker 3: you got to be Joker. You know, that's the guy

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Speaker 3: I fell in love with, So she's kind of egging

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Speaker 3: him on the whole way. And it creates this situation

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Speaker 3: where you kind of feel so sorry for what happens

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Speaker 3: to Waqim Phoenix's character as it goes along, Like he

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Speaker 3: was he has had a really tough life and even

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Speaker 3: still now, you know, he's dealing with so much stuff

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Speaker 3: identity issues, which is so unlike any comic book movie.

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Speaker 3: Like this is not a comic book movie. This is

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Speaker 3: a statement about It's a statement about how the society,

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Speaker 3: how society treats the mentally ill. This is also a

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Speaker 3: movie about, you know, like how we glorify criminals and

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Speaker 3: you know, like how the media does.

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Speaker 1: And it's because the trial is tele aber I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be left out.

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Speaker 3: Yeahazzi exactly. That was the most subtle of them all

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Speaker 3: for the first time, and it really ends, It really ends,

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Speaker 3: you know, with like a big, big finish that just

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Speaker 3: will just like kind of rip your heart out. And

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Speaker 3: any criticism the first movie had for kind of glorifying,

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Speaker 3: you know, sort of this type of misanthrope. I think

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Speaker 3: it really endswers. In fact, they've gone sort of out

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Speaker 3: of their way to kind of go anybody who thought

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Speaker 3: this film was like celebrating evil doers.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a documentary exactly.

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Speaker 3: This film kind of is the counterpoint to that, not

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Speaker 3: not to everybody's taste. Some people will find the singing

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Speaker 3: and dancing a bit too much. To be honest, there's

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Speaker 3: probably one or too many songs, and at one point

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Speaker 3: Wuck in Phoenix's character even says to Lady Gaga, stop singing,

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Speaker 3: just talk to me, Just talk to me. And so

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Speaker 3: it's like, I think you're speaking on behalf of the

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Speaker 3: audience there. But otherwise though, you know, it looks the

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Speaker 3: same as the first film, So it's absolutely gorgeous. Every

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Speaker 3: frame looks like it's the poster of the movie. It's

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Speaker 3: it's it's really something quite special.

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Speaker 2: Well, how many rock and roll alls are you giving?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give it for awesome.

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Speaker 1: I am looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I loved the first one and I hope to love

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Speaker 3: This in Phoenix amazing in this incredible good Thanks mate,

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys,