1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: It's knowledge something that we don't like to spread around 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: here too quickly and certainly not too evenly. But we'll 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: have a go at it anyway. Who's next on the phone. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Then, Meg, We have Alex from the Big Smoke dot Com. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Hello, Alex? How are you? 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you good? 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: To talk to you? I saw the other day you 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: were on the ABC. You were talking about cryogenic freezing. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, the risk of oversimplifying it, you get 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: frozen and come back later. 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically, you know, they put chemicals inside your 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: body to avoid damage to your orpens after you die, right, 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: and then they basically freeze you until you get to 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: a point where they want to I guess unfreeze you, 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: defrost you and try to bring you back to life. 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: I see, So you're going to have to hope then, 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: well it's a kind of a win win and hedge 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: your bets. I thought you actually did it while you 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: were still alive, so that you know, you come back 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: in almost like a Woody Allen film, and you come 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden you're the smartest person 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: in the room. But it doesn't work the way You've 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: got to die first, you have. 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: To die, and it has to be after, like really 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: quite quickly after you legally declared dead. For example, there 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: are hundreds of people around the world that are currently frozen, 27 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: really fed with liquid nitrogen. They had to do it 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: after they died obviously. And in Australia we're getting our 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: first cryo facility and you know, people haven't pushed back 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: on it. 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: People are excited about it. 32 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Even people are wanting to freeze their pets after they 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: die to try to bring them back as well. 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: No, I can see the advantages as well as one 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: of the disadvantages. Of course, when you come back and 36 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: they you know, unfreeze you, defrost you. I mean you're 37 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: still going to be old, right, and. 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: Then you have frostbite. 39 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, although however, with the advances in technology, 40 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: depending on when you come back, maybe they'll have the 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: technology to make you younger, to perhaps cure you anything 42 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: like that. So there are those advantages, yes, And. 43 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: There's the idea also that you are frozen until you 44 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: come back to a time where any of those diseases 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: could be easily cured. 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: And there are a lot of billionaires. 47 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: Like Peter Fiel's PayPal they're putting a lot of money 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: into arranging their own cryo death to make sure that 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: they can come back one day. 50 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: But they all admit that they don't even know if 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: this is going to. 52 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Happen or not, so they're quite aware that it is 53 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: an ambiguous science at best. 54 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and as I said, heads your bets, 55 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and there are, as you mentioned, thousands of people around 56 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the world currently in this state. 57 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: And again, like I said, not just people's pets, and 59 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: also not just whole humans, but also just heads. 60 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, this is it. 61 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: Some facilities, it's cheaper just to do your head, which 62 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: is customing, I guess. 63 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: Of course, if you can't afford the full body, it's like, 64 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure I can't afford the blowway, but 65 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: just give us a trim at the back. So in 66 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: that case, it's again more like that documentary The Man 67 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: with Two Brains with Doctor Parvar. If you can't afford 68 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the whole body, you come back as a head. 69 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, by now pay later kind of situation. 70 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: And then you hope that they would attach you. I mean, 71 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like we're making this up, but 72 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it's actually very serious. 73 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: Science isn't true. 74 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: It's true, and people are actually having to make that decision. 75 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: I want to freeze my entire body. Do I just 76 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: do the head? 77 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: Some people are arguing that they only need their head 78 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: because you really just need to preserve the human brain 79 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: and that's why there's you know, theories around that. 80 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's happening a lot. It's happening a 81 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: lot more, and it's happening now in Australia. 82 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not the only one with a stupid question. 83 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: What is it? 84 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Nick? 85 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Well? I want to know is it? 86 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Has someone actually come back? Yet? 87 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Nobody has come back. There's no evidence whatsoever that this 88 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: is going to work. Nobody has been declared legally dead, 89 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: frozen and then come back to life. 90 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Have you been to the seven eleven and watched anybody 91 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: just you know, ahead floating around me? 92 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Have you no? Only on the Simpsons? Yeah? 93 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Right, so you can have it done. How much does 94 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: it cost only for a head? 95 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: Well, it depends where you go, you know, like like 96 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: in all its prime location. Some people are around fifty 97 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: to one hundred thousand dollars, others are more one hundred 98 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: and fifty two hudred thousand dollars for the whole body. Yeah, Pet, 99 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: you're talking twenty to fifty K, so you know it 100 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: is a legitimate theory. 101 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: It's a cr preservation process that they believe happens. 102 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: But again, like I said, nobody's actually been able to 103 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: successfully come back to. 104 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: You're going to go to a cut price place and 105 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: they'll go, look, we can't afford the whole head here. 106 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Can we wag your ear into an ice cray and 107 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: give us a caller to a thousand years lovely to 108 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: talk to you? Alex? What's the website? 109 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: The Big Smoke dot com dot I is. 110 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: We're trying to bring you up to date here at 111 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: WSFM on all of the incredible science. But in that 112 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: particular case, I think we'll give that one a miss.