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Speaker 1: Good morning, Elliott, Good morning. Well, it was an interesting

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Speaker 1: game on the weekend. It was beaten by the Cats

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Speaker 1: in Adelaide by forty seven points, but the Eagles dominated

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Speaker 1: the first ten minutes. Then Geelong went on to kick

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Speaker 1: a huge hole. Then the Eagles won the second half

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Speaker 1: of the game, and then the Cats. The damage had

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Speaker 2: Case had won it?

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Speaker 3: Had we go what was?

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Speaker 2: How would you sum up that game?

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Speaker 4: Probably our second quarter let us down, and it let

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Speaker 4: us down really really bad. And so I think they

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Speaker 4: bagged on maybe ten goals plus or something. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: hard to sort of make up ground from that point.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you're also kind of you know, we'll review

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Speaker 4: it today and we'll go through how do we stop that?

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Speaker 4: But I think teams as well in the competition, and

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Speaker 4: especially Geelong in parts as well. During the game, it's

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Speaker 4: hard to stop momentum. And it's maybe because of a

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Speaker 4: few rule changes or something like that, but it's very

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Speaker 4: very hard to teams once they're on a roll. And

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Speaker 4: we were the same. I think we end up kicking

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Speaker 3: Straight as well.

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Speaker 4: So it is it is an arm wrestle and sometimes

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Speaker 4: teams just really drop the hammer, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: Really really hard to stop that.

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Speaker 4: And I guess maybe the sixty x sixth rules, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but I think throughout and you look it

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Speaker 4: through basically every single game, that's what's going on. So

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Speaker 4: but unfortunately we weren't able to stop that bleeding and

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Speaker 4: they just absolutely annihilate us in the second quarter.

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Speaker 5: See we see gelong early. It gets so far ahead

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Speaker 5: first fourteen goals to two or three at one stage. Psychologically,

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Speaker 5: And in the old days you see decide like you

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Speaker 5: and kick twenty eight or thirty goals doesn't seem to

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Speaker 4: No, I try to look at things from a logical

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Speaker 4: So it's it is. It's from the back line as well,

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Speaker 4: when the balls coming down there quite fast. A lot

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Speaker 4: on TV, it's not the greatest spot to be in.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, in the end, we were absolutely annihilated in

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Speaker 4: out pretty hard and pretty fast, and you know, for

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Speaker 4: So most teams running through looking pretty good out of

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Speaker 4: the stoppage, getting a free rein at having to kick

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Speaker 4: inside fifty that's pretty hard to stop. So any defender

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Speaker 1: Your first half was a very distinct tale of two quarters.

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Speaker 1: Playing on his name, Jeremy Cameron keeps it quiet in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter, and then he kicked four goals in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was flat.

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Speaker 2: Was there a wind change or something?

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Speaker 4: No, I was off two of them and one of them,

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Speaker 4: one of them was like a little cheapy over the top.

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Speaker 3: So I was flat. I was on the bench seating.

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Speaker 6: Yeah because to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was seeing So yeah, he got he got

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Speaker 3: A very good goal and fair enough. He took an

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Speaker 4: And another one due to team defense and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: They came racing out the middle and I depressed and

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Speaker 4: then they just hit him up. So it's like a

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Speaker 4: the second quarter. Yeah, he probably he probably sort of,

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Speaker 3: Things like that happened.

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Speaker 4: But I thought for the rest of it and probably

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this dangerfield guy, when he gets his confidence right,

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Speaker 6: He's a good player. He's a good player ball as

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Speaker 4: He's an absolute ball and he's still got for I

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Speaker 4: don't know how old he is, his thirty four or.

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Speaker 3: Something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still got his speed, which is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Poor or Jimpy's throat.

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Speaker 5: Which I saw it, Yeah, yeah, poor Oh yeah, because

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, needs to be nailed. When you're taking a

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Speaker 2: Your foot up, it sounds like a game of twister.

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Speaker 3: I thought they stamped it out.

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Speaker 2: Now, unfortunately you didn't make it to the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. What is going on? Are you injured? How

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had skins last night, so I know more

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Speaker 4: today and tomorrow, and I guess what what it looks

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Speaker 3: To come back.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think it'll be out too long.

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Speaker 4: But I can't it's too hard to search you the

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Speaker 4: g royin g Royan. It's been a trouble spot for

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Speaker 4: I've never I've never done a groin before. I've had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten pin bowling working from the strike, you must

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Speaker 3: A rik I did.

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Speaker 1: In a full less bowling alley anyway, in the whole

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Speaker 5: Something's blaming the bowling shoes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bowling at the hotel doesn't sound it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but anyway, it is getting worse and worse.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it might feel better.

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Speaker 3: Let me laugh at it.

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Speaker 1: Now along he's he's been a great pick up, seems

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Speaker 4: Very smart football and has a crack. So I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: Got the ball like big too. No it was not

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Speaker 4: Right at him and absolutely nawed him in a tackle.

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Speaker 4: So that's the type of thing that you want to see,

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Speaker 4: Like he's hungry.

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Speaker 2: A tackle, not in v tackle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's the type of thing you

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Speaker 4: we've got some good kids coming through.

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Speaker 6: Him Westy and those kind of blokes. You just have

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Speaker 6: a real crane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that's what and that's all you can ask for,

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, your time in the midfield, mate, you're getting

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Speaker 5: a few clearances and a few funcase at the end,

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Speaker 5: already at that point where you I felt good, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: No, I felt really good, so flat, very flat that

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Speaker 2: It's very glamorous to be part of that whole as

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Speaker 1: It's like a pretty cool moment to be the one

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Speaker 3: Lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 4: As a midfielder, you have a lot of responsibility on

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Speaker 2: Sometimes got the opposition on your shoulders.

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Speaker 4: Well exactly, but you know in the second quarter, Geelong

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Speaker 4: if you look at it from their perspective, they're going,

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Speaker 4: how great sits? So we getting a lot of four

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Speaker 6: All the rolls. Royce is are park.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now the Eagles have flown home, but we'll travel

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Speaker 1: back to Adelaide to play Port Adelaide on Saturday. Why

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Speaker 1: did the team not just stay in Adelaide for the

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Speaker 4: Mate? Yeah, I think the theory behind that was they

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Speaker 3: So okay, that was the theory.

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Speaker 4: And plus it's only two two and a half our flight,

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Speaker 4: so it's not ridiculous. Yeah, Okay, so I think that

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Speaker 4: do we know what do we do? We stay to

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Speaker 4: we go five days? It definitely would have been Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're staying and we're going to play it.

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Speaker 5: And then obviously the gather round was very successful because

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Speaker 5: I've got it for another three years over there in

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Speaker 5: Adelaide was the vibe.

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Speaker 6: It was good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it had a little type of Grand Final sort

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Speaker 4: of weak feel to it, if that that makes sense,

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Speaker 4: just with I guess everybody in the city being so

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Speaker 3: So I sort of had a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: It was it like when you were in the hubs,

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Speaker 2: you know during COVID.

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Speaker 3: No, completely different completely.

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Speaker 2: Because there was a pall over that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, in the hubs it was like literally hotel,

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Speaker 4: you're not allow nobody anywhere streets.

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Speaker 2: Coach for football. Well that was on of the weekend

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeats, Yeah it was. I thought it was really great.

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Speaker 4: You know, my little cousin flew over from Perth and

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Speaker 4: they had a rip at time, went to the Barossa.

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Speaker 3: Did all that went to every game?

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Speaker 6: Went to lots of games, didn't they.

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Speaker 3: Yep, So they were the same.

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Speaker 4: They pretty much watched every single game that was Adelade

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Speaker 3: Had a wicked time.

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about Noah Long being at First Ruck this week.

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Speaker 5: How's that, Mate'd be a worried. Yeah, the young boys,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, because young gin are getting the poker the

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Speaker 5: Of course it would bloody well hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great. Yeah, it's not great at all.

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Speaker 4: So but yeah he got a corky too, so.

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Speaker 2: He's you know, yeah, all the good ones, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They're not yeah, yeah, day out. Yeah, along also his

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 3: It was good. It did look good, didn't it.

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Speaker 6: The comment get around it. I don't realize so Big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'd be one ninety cent a minute.

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Speaker 1: What's with this story about the club maybe asking the

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Speaker 2: Would make it. I mean, it's a bit cheeky.

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Speaker 1: Really, it is postpone our game because we don't want

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Speaker 3: That's not whoa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it will happen, and I

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Speaker 2: But it would be a precedent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we top up players for both third grades.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw an article as well saying

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Speaker 4: good thing. Whether or not you know that happens, who knows.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we've been needing help for a few

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Speaker 3: Keep up.

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Speaker 5: Head injury is a really big thing in sport, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is.

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Speaker 4: There's a few of a few players that have signed

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you do it?

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you try and protect yourself for the worst

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Speaker 4: health insurance is probably that evil necessity that you have

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Speaker 1: Well, Gary, but Senior is suing the AFL, Angelong and

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting to see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be.

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Speaker 4: But I can see as well what the FLA trying

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Speaker 1: So they've known for a long time now they have.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's this is not this hasn't just come

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Speaker 4: Think it's going to be. Yeah, it's an interesting topic.

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Speaker 4: It's a hard topic to talk about because it's Pandora's box. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure there's not just one player, just

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Speaker 1: No, there's a lot, a lot that I've already died

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Speaker 1: that we found out this business of not knowing correct

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Speaker 5: Shan Smith, a former Melbourne High flyer, he's one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's from my point of view as well.

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why a few of the West Coast

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Speaker 3: It makes sense.

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Speaker 4: It's just you know, hopefully the rest of the league

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Speaker 2: Idea, but prevention would be better than the cure.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's fun. The prevention is that you don't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately forty country helvets or something, well, helmets don't.

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Speaker 6: But it's a player.

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Speaker 4: Head sort of get gets risked of, you know, hitting

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So there's all these different things that I would have

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Speaker 4: not outcome based either. It's not always being concast it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: that just looks like a dangerous tackle and we'll give

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Speaker 7: All right, Well off back to Adelaide this week. Good

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Speaker 7: luck to the team, Thank you, things cross. We come

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Speaker 7: away with the win, if we if we stop the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, got some boys kicking goals up forward as well.

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Speaker 5: All the best, but good to talk.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,