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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rap, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news.

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Speaker 2: Around the grounds.

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Speaker 1: This week, the NRL has announced a three game State

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Speaker 1: of Origin series for the first time in the women's history.

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Speaker 1: Geelong the Cats have upset rating premiers, Melbourn Demons to

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Speaker 1: progress today for w Prelimp finals and Mackenzie Arnold's jerseys

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Speaker 1: are set to be ready for sale on shelves by Paris.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four. How good For the key story, We'll

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Speaker 1: chat to Australian hockey player Calindi Cummerford about her recent

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Speaker 1: experience with concussion and why she's so passionate about sharing

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Speaker 1: her story. My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm usually joined

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Speaker 1: every week on the show by my co host Bez.

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Speaker 1: Who's I think at a music festival in Mexico as

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Speaker 1: we speak, but we.

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Speaker 2: Found someone similar. Well. She was here last week to

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Speaker 2: sub in.

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Speaker 1: She's probably the best of the best, Australia's most decorated

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Speaker 1: female paralympian of all time.

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Speaker 2: Ellie Cole, Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am still not over in Mexico. I am still

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Speaker 3: just in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: And you're still here.

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Speaker 4: Having me about Chloe and I hope you're having a

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Speaker 4: good time.

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Speaker 1: Bez Yes, sending love bears, eating all your chiros and

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Speaker 1: delicious tacos and tequila.

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Speaker 4: I think you mentioned the tacos and tequila last week.

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Speaker 2: I'm not bitter at all, not bitter at all. How

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Speaker 2: are you Earie Cole.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing really well. I had a great weekend. I

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Speaker 3: went camping on the weekend, which was amazing. When you go,

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Speaker 3: I went to Yarra Monday. Do you know where that is?

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Speaker 3: It's at the Bason the Blue Mountains. Yeah cool, but no,

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Speaker 3: it's great. Can you sorry? Just I'm going to cut there.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear that traffic noise?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Outside my window?

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Speaker 2: How the timing? They always rock up?

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Speaker 4: Let me just close you start recording?

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, sorry, we're keeping that in ba.

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Speaker 2: I'm all right.

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Speaker 3: Camping, I saw a bit of sun which I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen for a while, so I missed my old friend

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Speaker 3: and I went camping in on a river that was

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Speaker 3: about shin height so I could lay in the river.

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Speaker 4: And that was about it.

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Speaker 3: But my chiaus had the best time because they had

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Speaker 3: like it was like.

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Speaker 4: Chihaua size camping.

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Speaker 2: I like that, had a good time.

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Speaker 4: How's your weekends?

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Speaker 1: It was good gosh, what did I do? I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of nice family time. Actually, oh and I

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Speaker 1: went out to the Tide Project. I posted a real

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Speaker 1: about it on t FAP socials. So there's a Ozzie

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Speaker 1: Diamond's netballer, Amy Parmenter, who was a Giants netballer but

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Speaker 1: she's recently announced a move to a different club. But

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Speaker 1: her and a girl called Molly co founded the Tide Project,

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Speaker 1: which is all about making epic tight merchandise to raise

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Speaker 1: money for sarcoma research. So Molly is a two time

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Speaker 1: survivor of osteosarcoma.

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Speaker 2: And it was epic.

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Speaker 1: There was like thousands of T shirts, towels, socks, everything tight.

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Speaker 2: I was happening.

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Speaker 1: Young girl called Mia who was thirteen years old who

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Speaker 1: was shaving her head donate it twigs for kids and

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Speaker 1: raise money for the cause. So that was that was

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Speaker 1: definitely a highlight on my weekend.

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Speaker 2: It was really cool.

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Speaker 4: That sounds amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's the same kind of similar to the same cancer

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Speaker 3: that I had when I was little. I had neurosarcoma,

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Speaker 3: which is nerve sarkomer but most people are diagnosed with ostia,

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Speaker 3: which is bone cancer, and it's really difficult to treat,

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Speaker 3: so we certainly need a lot more research in the area.

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Speaker 4: So it sounds like a great event.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cool epic. I will put the link in the

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Speaker 1: show notes. Actually for anyone who wants to check out

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Speaker 1: the tight A project. Let's take a look around the grounds.

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Speaker 2: In football.

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Speaker 1: In a historic move, Nike has pledged to make Mackenzie

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Speaker 1: Arnold's goalkeeper jersey, along with other Matilda's goalkeepers jerseys, available

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Speaker 1: at major tournaments, starting with the upcoming Paris twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: for a qualification. This commitment follows backlash during the Women's

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Speaker 1: World Cup, when Nike faced criticism for not offering goalkeeper jerseys,

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Speaker 1: leaving fans and players disappointed. We saw the English goalkeeper

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Speaker 1: hadn't created a goalkeepers jersey of her, and Nike then

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Speaker 1: released I think maybe four different countries, but Australia wasn't

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Speaker 1: one of them. This was about a month or so ago,

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Speaker 1: so it's really cool to see that as part of

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Speaker 1: Pacific Nike Pacific's General manager and vice president, acknowledged a

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Speaker 1: bit of a misstep from Nike. He spoke to Isabel

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Speaker 1: Kotzwolp to Sports and said that they didn't serve those

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Speaker 1: fans during the twenty twenty three World Cup. However, they've

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Speaker 1: reassured supporters by promising availability for future major tournaments, including

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Speaker 1: that big event that's happening in France in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This announcement aligns, as I said, with the extended ten

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Speaker 1: year partnership between Nike and Football Australia, making it the

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Speaker 1: companies longest deal in the country. The partnership isn't just

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Speaker 1: about these jerseys. It encompasses a broader commitment. It includes

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Speaker 1: investment in grassroots participation, inclusivity programs and the Legacy twenty

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Speaker 1: three strategy, showcasing Nike and FA's dedication beyond the elite

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Speaker 1: teams to really impact the grassroots level, which is really cool.

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Speaker 2: There was an assurance.

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Speaker 1: To fans that Football Australia is working in Nike to

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Speaker 1: ensure ample availability of jerseys and merchandise for supporters. The

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Speaker 1: and from Nike in Football Australia's and there's also been

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Speaker 1: I guess a call out in a way to the

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Speaker 1: retailers to make sure that they actually commit to large

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's ever going to be enough jerseys.

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Speaker 3: I think a good strategy for Nike is to assess

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Speaker 3: how many Australians. Know how many people live in Australia.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like twenty million. They're probably going

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Speaker 3: to need thirty million. It's like select a population and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Actually why you haven't been offered

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Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that all of those jerseys will

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Speaker 3: become sold. But you know what I really like about

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Speaker 3: that story is Nike's general manager Ash Reed. She acknowledged

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Speaker 3: solution obviously is to develop those jerseys.

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Speaker 4: But you know you'd be spinning chips if you're a goalkeeper.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones who under the most high pressure situation

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Speaker 3: And then just imagine not being able to celebrate yourself

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Speaker 3: with your own jersey being sold. So it's going to

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Speaker 4: I know that I'm buying one, and so twenty million

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Speaker 2: They absolutely will.

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Speaker 4: There's my Ellie Cole Maths that was so famous for.

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Speaker 2: To become a theme, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quick, mass, Well let's look at some more football

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Speaker 3: news because in recent developments within the A League Women's competition,

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Speaker 3: the decision to postpone the anticipated clash between the Western

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Speaker 3: Sydney Wanderers in Cambria United has sparked controversy and disappointment,

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Speaker 3: raising questions about the professionalism of the league. Initially slated

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Speaker 3: to take place in Bathurst, a pitch inspection highlighted unsuitability

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Speaker 3: due to the impact of cool conditions affecting its recovery

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Speaker 3: to scratch, and the search for an alternative venue faced

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Speaker 3: hurdles and ongoing resurfacing at the Wanderers home ground at Blacktown. Consequently,

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Speaker 3: the match has been rescheduled to Wednesday, March thirteenth at

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Speaker 3: Wanderer's Football Park. That's March thirteenth next.

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Speaker 2: Year, next year. It's a long way away.

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Speaker 4: This is a really long way away.

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Speaker 3: But as reported by Jake Snape for The Guardian, the

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Speaker 3: postponement tree good critical reactions from Camberra United players, with

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Speaker 3: Formers Matilda's player Michelle Hayman expressing frustration, labeling it as

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Speaker 3: another step backwards in a social media post. Canberra United's

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Speaker 3: discontent is compounded by their recent lack of gameplay, with

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Speaker 3: last week's match canceled due to Sydney FC's participation in

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Speaker 3: the AFC Women's Club Championships, and as the team faces

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Speaker 3: a scarcity of matches in the upcoming month amidst the

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Speaker 3: international window. The postponement further amplifies their concerns. However, efforts

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Speaker 3: by Canberra to host the match were declined, citing apprehensions

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Speaker 3: regarding the season's integrity. Alternative options, including switching fixtures were explored,

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Speaker 3: clubs and I'm sure the entire country. The A League

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Speaker 3: officials defended the decision, emphasizing the necessity for venues that

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Speaker 3: meet prescribed standards, encompassing pitch qual broadcast infrastructure, commercial suitability,

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Speaker 3: this won't happen again.

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Speaker 4: But how many times have we said that, Chloe Dalton?

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Speaker 1: I know, and it's interesting, right because you touched there

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Speaker 1: on the season's integrity piece, and I understand that teams

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Speaker 1: games to make sure that it is fair. But to me,

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Speaker 1: in this scenario, sure you'd prioritize letting the game go

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Speaker 1: ahead on the scheduled date overworring too much about that

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I think that protects the integrity of the game more

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Speaker 2: Hopefully things can move forward in AFLW.

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Speaker 1: In a dominant display, the Adelaide Crows sword past the

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Speaker 1: Sydney Swans, securing a commanding sixty seven point victory led

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Speaker 1: by the exceptional and Hatcher. The game unfolded at nor

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Speaker 1: Would Oval, witnessed by a roaring home crowd, and as

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Speaker 1: Adelaide asserted their dominance early on, leading throughout the match

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Speaker 1: with an impressive twelve goal ten eighty two to two

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Speaker 1: of key forward Beck Privitelli due to injury. Unfortunately, Prove

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Speaker 1: Golgo's sons, and she's a real leader in that group.

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Speaker 1: She was formerly a Giants player. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Proven, feeling a bit heartbroken that she didn't get

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Speaker 1: a crack, but I think it really made it quite

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Speaker 1: challenging against a Crow's side that's very well known for

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Speaker 1: their defensive efforts the season. Crows had several players in

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Speaker 1: their eighth AFLW season and I think when it comes

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Speaker 1: down to these massive finals games, you can really tell

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Speaker 1: the players that are calm and composed under that level

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Speaker 1: of pressure. The stoutout of the match was undeniably and

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Speaker 1: Hatch eyed for the Crows for exceptional performance, recording an

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Speaker 1: incredible thirty seven disposals and two goals, set records and

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Speaker 1: showcased her prowess as a standout midfielder, leaving Sydney's attempts

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Speaker 1: to contain her ultimately futile. Adelaid's victory propels them to

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Speaker 1: while Sydney's season concludes Meanwhile on Sunday, there was This

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Speaker 1: game was an absolute thriller, So Melbourne Demons rating premiers.

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Speaker 1: Geelong haven't played finals for a number of years but

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Speaker 1: it's the D's game to lose, right Geelong just came

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Speaker 1: How good up the Flames in cricket. So the Women's

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Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go into rugby league.

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Speaker 3: Responding to impassioned calls from players and fans alike, the

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Speaker 3: Matt, We've been asking for this since a long time,

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Speaker 1: And what I love what you touched on there is

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Speaker 1: Earlier today, I caught up with Australian hockey player Clindi

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Speaker 6: fortunate to be near the SOFIA Australia Hub and they

441
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Speaker 6: just so happened to be like concussion experts, so we

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Speaker 6: rehabbed me back into life like I was an athlete.

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Speaker 5: I would like start with a walk. It was all

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Speaker 5: really heart rate based.

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Speaker 6: Got back to running, sprinting, hockey, but the bit that

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Speaker 6: was missing, and I don't know if it would have

447
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Speaker 6: made a difference today. No one told me to rehab

448
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Speaker 6: my brain, so I don't even think I could, to

449
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Speaker 6: be honest, because it's still the thing I struggle with,

450
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Speaker 6: but my I can't read sometimes without getting dizzy. I

451
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Speaker 6: can't do highly cognitive things without all of my symptoms

452
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Speaker 6: coming back.

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Speaker 5: And when I returned to work after.

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Speaker 6: Four months, it took two weeks before I felt like

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Speaker 6: I had been concussed the day before. It was almost

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Speaker 6: worse when I went back to work than when I

457
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Speaker 6: was initially concussed. So after a month I stopped work,

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Speaker 6: and then hockey one, the league I'm playing.

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Speaker 5: In at the moment, became a bit of a goal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I knew that I couldn't keep asking my

461
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Speaker 6: work to make all these like special conditions to me.

462
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Speaker 6: I was brand new in the workplace and I was

463
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Speaker 6: already stripping back my hours and I was stopping going

464
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Speaker 6: and I didn't want the stress of having those sort

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Speaker 6: of expectations.

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Speaker 5: I was working as.

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Speaker 6: A law graduate at Deloitte, and that's like a highly

468
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Speaker 6: stressful job. So yeah, I stepped away, let my brain deload,

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Speaker 6: and then worked towards Hockey one.

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Speaker 1: And you on your own social channels. I've seen a

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Speaker 1: number of Tefaut followers sent it to us because it

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Speaker 1: really resonated with them, and it's obviously such an important topic.

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Speaker 1: How did you get to that point of wanting to

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Speaker 1: speak publicly about your experience. Well, I think in the

475
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Speaker 1: very early days, I was looking for resources myself and

476
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Speaker 1: I couldn't, like you find the odd one on TikTok,

477
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Speaker 1: but I was like, God, I just wish I had

478
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Speaker 1: this succinct little tile that I could swipe through relate

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Speaker 1: to look at some things that someone else is doing.

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Speaker 5: So that's where it initially started, and.

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Speaker 6: That's why I posted after four months, because I thought

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Speaker 6: that's when it was done. And then the journey continued

483
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Speaker 6: and my response from.

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Speaker 5: My first post I got like I rein.

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Speaker 6: I got one hundred people replying and writing to me

486
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Speaker 6: and just randoms relating and just they were people who

487
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Speaker 6: had been injured in sport, but they didn't have the

488
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Speaker 6: same access to high performance resources like I had, and

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Speaker 6: it really concerned me that they were two three years

490
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Speaker 6: down the line and still having problems. And I suppose

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Speaker 6: my one of my biggest takeaways is we don't actually

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Speaker 6: know how to rehab concussion in Australia, well, especially at

493
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Speaker 6: just like I don't know this is the right technology, but

494
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Speaker 6: like a civilian level, like not a high performance athlete level,

495
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Speaker 6: just the citvy you know. They're the people who I

496
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Speaker 6: continue to talk for and the reason I continue posting

497
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Speaker 6: because I feel lost and I have access to things,

498
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Speaker 6: so if I was them, I would feel lost. And

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of the advice that I'm getting

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Speaker 6: is time. Time fixes it.

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Speaker 5: But that's like I can agree with that in the short.

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Speaker 6: Term, but in the long term, unintentionally, I feel like

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Speaker 6: it's just a bit of a scapegoat answer because we

504
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Speaker 6: don't actually know, and I think we need to get

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Speaker 6: better at actually having things in place, resources in place

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Speaker 6: to rehab the brain so that two three years down

507
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Speaker 6: the line, I'm not having the same problems when I'm

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Speaker 6: at work, and.

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Speaker 5: Some people are different. Everyone's different.

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Speaker 6: Like I know there's probably a lot of people out

511
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Speaker 6: there thinking how am I still having problems, and you know,

512
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Speaker 6: am I the girl that cried wolf? But even though

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Speaker 6: I'm playing high level hockey at the moment, some people

514
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Speaker 6: won't be able to raise their heart rate without getting symptoms,

515
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Speaker 6: and they can work. I'm the flip and I'm grateful

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Speaker 6: for that, to be honest, because I love exercising.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sicko for it, aren't we all?

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Speaker 1: So can you give us a bit of a rundown

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Speaker 1: about how you're feeling now? You mentioned the hockey one

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Speaker 1: league that you're playing in. How have you noticed your

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Speaker 1: symptoms kind of progressing.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've deloaded to a point which is pretty good.

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Speaker 6: But the bit that I'm still triggered by the pieces

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Speaker 6: that still flare me up.

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Speaker 5: It's not exercise. So the hockey is actually incredible for me.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't actually sure if I play hockey this year

527
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Speaker 6: because I was transitioning out of sport one of the

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Speaker 6: focus on my career, And what a cruel twist of

529
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Speaker 6: fate here.

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Speaker 5: I am still.

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Speaker 6: Going along with it and it remains to be the

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Speaker 6: only thing that I feel like I can do it

533
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Speaker 6: full capacity, and that links me to like pre concussion Colindy.

534
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Speaker 5: So it's really special for me actually.

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Speaker 6: And I've got this brand new relationship with the sport

536
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Speaker 6: and the people in the sport and just the people

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Speaker 6: in my life generally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So other than that, the same triggers are still there.

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Speaker 2: So like some days I.

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Speaker 6: Just try and read a chapter a day in a book,

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Speaker 6: and some days I can fly through like three or four.

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Speaker 5: Other days I can. I can't read a page.

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Speaker 6: I am like petrified of having to do work on computers.

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Speaker 5: I have more angst about going back to work.

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Speaker 6: Than not working, which is funny because I obviously wanted

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Speaker 6: to work to survive, but my experience when I went

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Speaker 6: back to work was, yeah, not a good one.

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Speaker 5: Sleep.

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Speaker 6: If I don't get good quality sleep, I know that

551
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Speaker 6: I've been through a rough day and I'm still learning.

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Speaker 6: Like there's things that you wouldn't think that would trigger me,

553
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Speaker 6: but like having two or three things that I have

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Speaker 6: to do in a day, like today, I've got to

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Speaker 6: go to Bunning's, and I know that if I was

556
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Speaker 6: to meet up with someone socially for a coffee, that

557
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 6: would probably be too much for me, at least back

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Speaker 6: to back, Like I need some downtime before I go

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Speaker 6: and do other things. So I'm learning, and I'm very

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Speaker 6: lucky to have so many incredible people in my life

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Speaker 6: who are patient with that, and understanding is probably the

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Speaker 6: better word.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing your story and also

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Speaker 1: for having the courage to speak about it publicly as well.

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Speaker 1: I think, as you touched on this, so many people,

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Speaker 1: whether it's at the elite level or civilian as well

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Speaker 1: we're going to call it today, or community sport level,

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Speaker 1: who have experienced something similar. So yeah, I really take

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Speaker 1: my hat off to you for taking that leap and

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Speaker 1: creating a conversation.

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Speaker 2: So thanks so much for your time and for sharing

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Speaker 2: it with us today. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I think I just love the camera, but I appreciate.

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Speaker 6: Any any platform or I can continue to continue the conversation.

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Speaker 6: I'm grateful for and I'll jump at that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what to watch in cricket.

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Speaker 1: As we touched on earlier, we've got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: So Friday at Adelaide oval Is Brisbane v Sydney Thunder

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Speaker 1: before Adelaide Strikers v Perth. Saturday November twenty fifth, the

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Speaker 1: Stars the Renegades will meet for an epic mcg be

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Speaker 1: the first WBBL match at the Iconic Ground and then Sunday,

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Speaker 1: November twenty six at the SCG. First Dadlo WBBL matches

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Speaker 1: at the SCG when the Sydney six Is and thunder

585
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Speaker 1: go head to head in the Sydney Smash. When the

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Speaker 1: same day Urricanes will also play the Strikers, we.

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Speaker 4: Look to AFLW Finals.

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Speaker 3: It's here because on Saturday November twenty five, you can

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Speaker 3: watch the first Pilimiarum Final Brisbane v Geelong at six

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Speaker 3: forty five pm Local time seven forty five pm Australian

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Speaker 3: Eastern Standard Daylight Savings time, or you can go and

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Speaker 3: watch the match at Brighton Holmes Arena. On Sunday, November

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Speaker 3: twenty six, you'll find the second preliminary final, North Melbourne

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Speaker 3: v Adelaide at three or five pm at icon Park.

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Speaker 2: How good.

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Speaker 1: In hockey, the Hockey one Finals weekend is here, so

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Speaker 1: it's played across the two days twenty fifth to the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth of November. Saturday and Sunday we've got the

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Speaker 1: two semifinals, so the Brisbane Blaze, who topped the ladder,

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Speaker 1: are taking on the Perth Thundersticks. Great name and New

601
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Speaker 1: South Wales Pride are taking on Cambra Chill and then

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Speaker 1: the final takes place on the Sunday. It's happening at

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Speaker 1: the National Hockey Center in Canberra and you can watch

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Speaker 1: it all live on seven.

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Speaker 2: It's seven plus is that it? Seven plus?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Seven play seven plus yeah?

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Speaker 4: Seven plus? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That sounds right And that's the wrot. We did it virtually,

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Speaker 2: we got there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hopefully you'll be able to hear everything that we said,

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Speaker 3: but maybe not do the technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: But see you next week. We're crossing all the fingers.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks again Ellie Cole for jumping in while Bez

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Speaker 1: has been away. I always I love chatting any topic

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Speaker 1: with you. We always have a good amount of fun.

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Speaker 1: But I really appreciate you stepping in and adding your

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Speaker 1: wisdom and experience to the podcast, So thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Chloe