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Speaker 1: New Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: There has been an inquiry into tolling for motors for

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Speaker 2: our fair city and you know what they found. Tell

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Speaker 2: me it's reasonable and fair. Now it's convoluted and unfair.

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Speaker 1: How much do we spend on that inquiry?

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Speaker 2: Well, do you see the pamphlets? They made very good brochures,

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Speaker 2: very hard.

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Speaker 1: We should be in the brochure business.

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Speaker 2: Not cheap under the new system. So there's good and

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Speaker 2: bad news. Do you want the good news of the

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Speaker 2: bad news?

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Speaker 1: Tell me you decide.

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Speaker 2: Under the new system, motorists would be charged per kilometer.

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Speaker 1: So it would be this isn't will be this is

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Speaker 1: a charge.

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Speaker 2: Would reduce for each additional kilometer travel. It's interesting you

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Speaker 2: say that because it seems to me that nothing is

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Speaker 2: written in stone. Chris mins Minsy said before he was

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Speaker 2: elected putting two way tolling on the Harbor Bridge, that's

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Speaker 2: just unthinkable. You know. He was throwing that at the

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Speaker 2: Liberal government. Now that seems that it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a thing.

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Speaker 1: So start again, what are we going to? What is

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Speaker 1: on the car?

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Speaker 2: To start again? Undersee it?

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Speaker 1: Well at about the kilometers.

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Speaker 2: So under the new system, motorists would be charged per kilometer,

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Speaker 2: but that charge would reduce for each kilometer travel to

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Speaker 2: the people. If you're driving from the west to Sydney,

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Speaker 2: you're paying a fair bit of money. Like you say,

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Speaker 2: you're going from Campbelltown to the city to the CBJ,

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Speaker 2: that's going to cost you thirteen bucks one way. It's

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Speaker 2: twenty six dollars return, which.

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Speaker 1: Is extraordinary, is what you're paying now.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're paying there. Yes, so under the new

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Speaker 2: system it would be five dollars cheaper. So the Harbor

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Speaker 2: My beef of the Harbor Bridge thing is the fact

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Speaker 2: that we now moved to North Sydney, so I do

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Speaker 2: cross the bridge twice. But the other thing, in living memory,

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Speaker 2: the Harbor Bridge was always just one way tolling ever

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Speaker 2: since it was constructed.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain to me though, So to compensate for

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Speaker 3: the drop of revenue it's going to happen by harving

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Speaker 3: those tolls, people who use the bridge are going to

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Speaker 3: have their's doubled.

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Speaker 2: So you're, you, me, everyone, GM, Y RYE, We're all

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Speaker 2: going to have to pay. And I have no beef

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Speaker 2: with that because quite frankly, the tolls in the city outrageous,

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Speaker 2: are mental and if you're driving from the west to

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Speaker 2: hear every.

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Speaker 1: Day it's costing you a fortune.

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Speaker 2: Fortune, But sentimentally I always think of the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 2: It was just a one way told.

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Speaker 1: Remember there was a basket you'd throw twenty five cents in.

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Speaker 2: Motorcycle cheaper there used to be day when the cheaper.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know how a motorcycle is the same

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Speaker 2: price as a toy at Lancruise or with a trailer.

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Speaker 2: That that's something that I wish someone could explain to me.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is what it is. It's our successive

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Speaker 2: governments giving privatizing everything. What's wrong with our governments that

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Speaker 2: we are the most told city in the world.

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Speaker 1: Is it true that we can't afford those roads?

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Speaker 2: We can't afford it. Instead of spending money on stupid

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Speaker 2: stuff like like a roached colors and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: how about we just work on our infrastructure. Yeah, stupid brochures,

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Speaker 2: artist's impressions of stuff.

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Speaker 3: But see the money that goes to as you say,

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Speaker 3: your pride flags. That's that money is allocated, I know,

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Speaker 3: but that money is allocated differently. The more I see this,

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Speaker 3: the more you realize that that money isn't going to

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Speaker 3: go from that infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Should be a priority. We had a premiere for many

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Speaker 2: years who didn't drive a car, Bob Carr, and he

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Speaker 2: ironically he was on the cocked up the monoach. No, no,

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Speaker 2: that was Nick Grianna's baby. He was liberal that the

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Speaker 2: M two, Remember the M two, It was only they

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Speaker 2: cheaped out on the two lanes. Then they only made

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Speaker 2: it two lanes each way, and people said, no, well,

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Speaker 2: you've got to make that thing three lanes nowhere just

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Speaker 2: where we used to be. So they did. They went

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Speaker 2: and had to widen it. That these guys just have

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Speaker 2: no vision. Bradfield when he built the Harbor Bridge in

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Speaker 2: the depression, mind you, this eight line lane bridge that

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Speaker 2: still stands to this day and still handles the traffic.

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Speaker 2: I know that we have the tunnel as well, but

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Speaker 2: having said that, at the time, everyone's going, what are

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Speaker 2: you building this crazy bridge for? Because there was like

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Speaker 2: a horse and a dray and an old banger going

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Speaker 2: across the thing. No one would have imagined what we

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Speaker 2: have now. I'm just saying to these government guys, we

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Speaker 2: are a city that loves cars. We are a city

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Speaker 2: that needs cars, and they should be factored into you know,

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Speaker 2: instead of Mackayraham, stupid push bikes and all the other junk.

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Speaker 2: How about we focus on the car and you're not

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Speaker 2: going to get people out of their cars?

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Speaker 1: Well not Well, our public transport isn't efficient.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love catching public transport where it's available,

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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of place places in Western Sydney

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Speaker 2: you just.

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Speaker 1: Can't know that's trying to get a bus or train

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Speaker 1: for anything. Well, there's good as you say, there's good

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Speaker 1: news and bad news. For some people, it's good news.

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Speaker 1: For others it'll be bad news.

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Speaker 2: But I think all already.

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Speaker 1: The brochure business, it's you're.

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Speaker 2: The bure business. If you're in the brochure business or

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Speaker 2: the artist's impression business, you're going to be okay.