1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to Outspoken. 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: You're joined as usual by journalists Amy and Sophie Torber. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Coming up on the program the PR blunder that went viral, 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: married at first site, sex shaming comment, did it go 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: too far? 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: And we reveal all the juicy Love Island secrets as 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: the show wraps. Thank you so much for joining us. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: Now. 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Unfortunately Kate's not here for this episode, but you're stuck 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: with Sof and I and we wanted to touch on 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: a pretty funny story that happened to us this week 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: regarding our public relations company. 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: Sophie, do you want to tell Well. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Just to start off with, it's not the PR blunder 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: that we're referring, No, in the first paragraph. That is 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: another public relations fam but as you know we've spoken 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: about it on previous episodes, we are working on rebranding 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: our company at the moment, and that of course involves 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: redoing our website. So we've had to be taking a 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: few doing a few little photo shoots, which Amy and 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: I hate doing. Yeah, I'm much prefer being behind the 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: camera if I'm being honest. So anyway, on Friday, we decided, okay, 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: we don't have any meetings locked in. We've got to 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: spend the time to get these photos done, and so 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: the day before we've done a little drive around to. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Get some good goping out locations. 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So all we wanted was a plain white wall 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: to take some sleek looking photos on. And unfortunately we 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: didn't really have a camera person. I was the camera 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: person with the use of a tripod. Well, to be fair, 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: we did have a photographer on hand, but we feel 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: like dickheads enough without someone standing there, so we kind 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: of wanted to keep it a bit private and thought 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: we'd look a bit more natural just putting on a tripod. Yeah. Anyway, 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: it happened to be the sunniest day in Adelaide, which 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: anyone who takes photos will know is terrible for shadows. 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: So we drove to Brighton, we drove to Grange, we 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: drove to West Beach to find a white We found 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: a white wall, but it was just a completely indirect 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: sun and as we were heading back from Brighton, I 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: think we just had had it. Sophie spotted this white wall. 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: It was on the side of this mobility scooter shop 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: and technically it was on someone else's property, but we 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: were like fuck it, like we just need to take 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: these photos. I was also thrilled because I mean, it's 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: funny that these photos are called glamorous, but then you 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: know it's been taken it at a scooter mobility center anyway, 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: So we set up our tripod looked like absolute wankers. 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: Probably with all these security cameras watching these photos. 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: We're just waiting to be on shit. Adelaide. 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect I have to say 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: for influencers now when they say they're doing their content shoot, 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: because I don't know, there's something about me that I look. 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone understands this, but I look 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: like a cornetto when I stand in photos. 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I just as soon as the. 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: Camera comes out, I just can't stand normally like I 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: just I just can't now, well, what happens that might 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: be of interest to some of the listeners to have 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: a is we were standing there like absolute dickheads. Every 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: time a car went by, we tried to pretend we 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: were on our phone and we weren't taking photos because 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: we legitimately looked like we were wanna be influencers. Anyway, 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: this guy drives by this like forty year old man 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: and a you, and he puts window down. He says, hey, gals, 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: what you're doing. Would you be able to take a 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: photo with me? And we're like, oh god, and he's like, yeah, 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: I want to show the boys back at the site 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: these two stunners standing here. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: They won't believe it. 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: And this sounds really arrogant, but anyway, it's really I 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: don't think it's arrogant. It was a tradey who probably 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: says that to every woman he drives past, but it 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: was so humiliating. For the record, we didn't take a 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: photo with he. We did it. Now. I've been hanging 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: out to hear this other story from your week that 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: you've been holding on to. 78 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Amy. 79 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: You wanted to tell me on Mike to get my 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: reaction to it, because's apparently I would look. I don't 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: want to talk it up too much, but this is 82 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: my story that I've been saving Sophie. So, as you know, 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: I have two beautiful cats GGM. Bentley, who were both 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: rag dolls, and anyone that knows us will know they 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: leave a trail of fur wherever they go, and unfortunately 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: sometimes the fur doesn't fall off around here, but it's 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: very long around their bottoms. So Unfortunately, when they go 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: to the bathroom sometimes remnants of it will be left 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: in their fur. Anyway, I was sitting on the couch 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: on Saturday and Bentley jumped up near me, and I 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: noticed he had a bit of pool on his bottom, 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit, I need to get 93 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: rid of this before Dale gets home, because he'll think 94 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: that they're all filthy sitting on the couch because he 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: gets funny about their fur. Anyway, so I went to 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: our little kitchen draw and I grabbed out the scissors 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: and I decided to trim the fur around his bomb, 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: and then I sort of I think I heard Dale coming, 99 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: so I just chucked the scissors back in the drawer. Anyway, 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: Dale then decided to make some he's making some two 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: minute noodles for lunch, and he went and grabbed the 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: scissors and then cut the sashet and then he looked 103 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: at them and he saw fur hanging off them. 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: He was like, have you been using these to cut 105 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: the cat's fur? 106 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: And I was like, but yeah. I was like, they're 107 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: not our kitchen scissors, they're just the everyday scissors. And 108 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: he's like, are you serious? And I was like yeah, 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: and He's like, have you done this before? And I 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, what else does he use the kitchen 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: scissors for? No? No, well, Dale has been known to 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: cut pizza up with scissors, and so I was thinking, 113 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Like what else has he been using 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: these scissors for? And he's like, I just used things 115 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: to cut mate sachet Like anyway. 116 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: It was not that bad. That's not actually cutting food 117 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: with it. No, but I think he's cut other things 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: with the scissors anyway. Well the least, I mean, I 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: know I've heard it. 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: In every male's house there's usually a suspect pair of 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: scissors that's used to cut pubes. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: He told you that. I don't know, but I think 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: I've read like foul I just cut Bentley's pubes. Now 124 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: moving on. 125 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, infamous food critic John Leithland took to 126 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Instagram to dish out some food for thought. He slammed 127 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: a junior public relations coordinator for committing what he believes 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: is a cardinal prcin So can you talk us through 129 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: what actually happened? 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: All over the weekend? 131 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: A public relations coordinator in Adelaide reached out to John 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: about a review he'd written on her client, and her 133 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: client is a restaurant called Gaja, and that is a 134 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: restaurant run by Sashi, who was actually the winner of 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: Master Chef in two thousand and eight. And the review 136 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: was entitled Jack of all Trades, Master of None, So 137 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: not a great review, not a glowing review from the start. 138 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: So it's safe to say that. 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: From the onset this review was not going to be 140 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: flattering to the restaurant. So the public relations coordinator wrote 141 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: back to John saying, Hi, John, hope you weekend is 142 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: going well. My name well, we've chosen not to include 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: her name, she said, my name is blah blah blah 144 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: from this public relations firm here in Adelaide. I was 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: directed to your recent review in The Australian of Gaja 146 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: by Sashi, but I am not a subs Sorry, but 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: as I'm not a subscriber, i am unable to read 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: the article in full, so for now I'm somewhat left 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: in suspense. I'm currently handling the pr for Gaja by Sashi, 150 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: and from what I could initially read, it doesn't sound 151 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: like you had a good experience there. I sincerely apologize 152 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: as this is the first negative article I've come across 153 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: about the restaurant. Therefore, I would appreciate if you're able 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: to please send it to me so I'm able to 155 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: read over it in full to understand what happened. Now 156 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: it's safe to say John wasn't happy with this email. No, 157 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: so John responded by screenshotting the email and posting it 158 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: to his twenty thousand followers on Instagram with the hashtag 159 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: by a fucking newspaper. Now, he has been criticized because 160 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: he did include the name of the PR coordinator in 161 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: the screenshot. It was lightly scribbled out, but it was 162 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: evident to all what the girl's name was. Well. Yeah, 163 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: there was a lot of debate online about this. I 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: think that he should have made an effort to actually 165 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: cover it properly. I do feel a little bit bad 166 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: to her because she probably well, she was identifiable. It's interesting, though, 167 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: because I did a quick search on the PR company, 168 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: which we're also choosing not to name, and I feel 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: like I should say, just to clarify, I have previously 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: worked at this PR firm in Adelaide. I just want 171 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: to put that out there for context. So yes, I 172 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: did a quick search, and she's actually not listed on 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: their website as being a staff member, So it made 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: me question, oh, wow, is this actually an intern who's 175 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: then been publicly shamed and perhaps this particular person has 176 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: been left I supposed to work on an account and 177 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: that's sorry, on an account that maybe, you know, maybe 178 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: be on there. Yeah, many people in the industry have 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: been quite vocal online saying that the blame should be 180 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: with the boss, who hasn't given this junior employee the 181 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: skills that they need to do their job properly, and 182 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: pointing out that she clearly hasn't been taught an appropriate 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: response in this situation. So I do really feel for 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: this girl because it does seem like she was completely 185 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: out of her depth with handling this client. Well, it 186 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: seems to me very unusual for this particular firm not 187 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: to have a subscription to the newspaper, and even just 188 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: you know John's statement, go out and buy a newspaper. 189 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: I'm just shocked that that didn't pop up in this 190 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: particular person or the businesses head to just oh, actually, 191 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: let's just go. 192 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: Get the newspaper and see what we said. 193 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: Well, the thing that I find most troubling about this 194 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: incident is that I feel like the PR firm should 195 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: have known better than to write this email. John is 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: Australia's only national food critic and this PR firm specializes 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: or so called specializers in hospitality, so in my opinion, 198 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: the staff should be across who this major food critic is. 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: He has also recently been in the news in a 200 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: lot of pop culture news, not just hospitality news, for 201 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: calling out influences Chloe zep and Mitchell Orville for what 202 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: he referred to as. 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: Them asking for freebies. 204 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: And we have spoken about that previously, and he has 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: been very vocal in calling out other celebrities and influencers 206 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: for asking restaurants and cafes for meals in exchange for 207 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: social media posts. And he's really known for this infamous 208 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: hashtag called cuscus for comment. So I mean, really, I 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: feel like they should have known better than to reach 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: out to him like this. What's funny you say that 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: because in his review he actually mentions that the PR 212 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: firm in question actually asked him to come in to 213 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: review the restaurant and which it seems he did not 214 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: like or I actually asked him to promote it. That 215 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: was the words in the mess in the email, and 216 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: this appeared in the second part of his article, which 217 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: could be seen without a subscription. I love that he said, oh, 218 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: I'll put you on to our advertisers. 219 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: But that's what. 220 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: Disturbs me, the fact that these I don't know if 221 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: this was the girl in question, but someone from that 222 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: PR firm already had received quite a negative response when 223 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: contacting him. And then is this a situation of poking 224 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: the bear? Oh definitely, I mean that's what it seems 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: like to me. And I mean, in PR, obviously we 226 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: have our own PR firm. Contacts are imperative. That is 227 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: what makes your PR company stand out. You're really judged 228 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: on your range of media contacts. And it's not just 229 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: a matter of finding an email address and shooting an 230 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: email out to anyone or just sending out a blanket 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: press release or email like you've got to you've got 232 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: to know these people. 233 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: You've got to have. 234 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: Specialized but even like even emailing them being like, oh, 235 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: can you can you. 236 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Promote our restaurant? That's not an angler. 237 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: What about Hey, we'd love you to come in and 238 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: try the food and if you would like to do 239 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: a review, because obviously not even that Like this guy 240 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: won Mastership two thousand and eight this is something really interesting, 241 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: new different about his menu? 242 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Where's that? 243 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: No? But I mean as in, rather than saying, do 244 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: you base, can you advertise this restaurant? Hey, come in, 245 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: try the food and give us your honest opinion. That's 246 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: what a food review is meant to be, an honest opinion, 247 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: and his honest opinion was he gave this restaurant a one. Well. 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: The thing that also disturbs me on many levels is 249 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: the terrible publicity this has had for Sashi's restaurant. I mean, 250 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: it has been made ten times worse. There's a negative 251 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: review that now has over two hundred comments on this 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Instagram you know, made me go and look at the review. 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's terrible. 254 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: And there's been a PR blunder, which was meant to 255 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: be actually, I don't know, trying to fix the problem. 256 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: I assume them emailing him has actually made the whole 257 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: situation even worse. And what I'm failing to understand is 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: there's been no comment from the PR firm since, well, 259 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: you think as a PR firm you would be great 260 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: at crisis management, and they could have used this as 261 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: an opportunity to show off their skills and spin the 262 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: story to their favorite. If this happened to our agency, 263 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: I would want to do my best to defend our reputation, 264 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: our employees. 265 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: And our client. Yet they've remained silent. 266 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: And I mean, firstly, let's hope that this PR coordinator 267 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: who has been unfairly named in this incident has been 268 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: given appropriate support and isn't copying the blame for something 269 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: like this, because I don't think it's her fault. At 270 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I don't feel this responsibility 271 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: lies with her. I think it lies with her senior 272 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: manager or boss who was overseeing this client. Well, as 273 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: we mentioned, I do think it was wrong for John 274 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: to include her name in the email. I mean, as 275 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: we said, he tried to sort of scrub it out, 276 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: but it was obvious what her name was. And a 277 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: quick search, well my quick search on Instagram, I was 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: able to locate the girl on Instagram and Facebook, and 279 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: her Facebook actually says that she's currently studying media and 280 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: public relations at UNI. So it leads me to believe 281 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: that she's obviously not very experienced. I mean, it's quite 282 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: evident in the email that she sent, and that's what's 283 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: really sad, because this might have put her off PR altogether. 284 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the email was extremely polite, but it was 285 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: just extremely misguided. And as we spoke on last week's show, 286 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: it is really important to consider how this woman must 287 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: be feeling with being put in the spot like this. 288 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: It was incredibly unfair. I personally don't have an issue 289 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: with the PR firm being named because I feel like 290 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: as a company, I feel like you can cop blame 291 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: like that because it's directed a company, not an individual. 292 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: That being said, you know, we have our own business 293 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: and I understand that it would be very difficult to 294 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: cop that criticism and it wouldn't be a nice feeling. 295 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: So everyone does make mistakes, you know, you just have 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: to learn from them. And I hope that maybe this 297 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: is a good lesson for her and the PR company 298 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: on how to respond in these situations next time. You know, 299 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: we're all human, we all through things perhaps we regret. Well. 300 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: Moving on to this week's pit and peak of the 301 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: social media week, Sophie, what have you got for us today? Well, 302 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: the peak for me has to be the discuss of 303 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: epic food challenges on YouTube, and I feel like it's 304 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: become my new favorite pastime with my boyfriend. So we 305 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: have been obsessed over the weekend watching Zach Perner, and 306 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: he has over six hundred thousand followers on YouTube. He's 307 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: a Jim Shark ambassador and online fitness coach. He's absolutely 308 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: ripped and basically he faced doesn't he's all the ones 309 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: We've been watching it from a few years ago, so 310 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: he does look a bit older now. But he has 311 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: grown his channel by offering health advice but then also 312 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: pairing it with these huge food challenges. So when he 313 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: got to ten thousand followers on YouTube, he marked it 314 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: by eating ten McDonald's happy meals. Oh yeah, and when 315 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: I heard that, I was like, oh, that'd be no 316 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: trouble to eat. It looked epic in front, like when 317 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: they're all in front of How many calories is that? 318 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: I think it was five thousand calories? 319 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: Really? 320 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: He also, yeah, it was well, I suppose you've got 321 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: to think about all the chips and the dream. 322 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 323 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: And so when he got to twenty thousand, he did 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: one which was even worse. It was the Crispy Cream 325 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: challenge where he tried to attempted to eat fifty Crispy 326 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: Cream donuts in ten minutes. Geez, so did you do 327 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: the whole water thing where you dunk it in water 328 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: and that helps it go down, or he actually didn't 329 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: because I think he didn't want to fill up too 330 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: much on the water. 331 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know. 332 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: There's just something to me that has been so satisfying 333 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: about watching this. 334 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Fit person eating a shit ton of food. Do you remember? 335 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know if we've mentioned this in the 336 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: podcast before, but Sof and I did pr for a 337 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: particular client and we had an eating competition. So we 338 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: organized professional eaters to go into Sydney and they had 339 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: to eat as many two minute noodles as they could, 340 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: and we had to organize the competitive eaters and we 341 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: were expecting sort of like you know, bigger. 342 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Men or women to come along. 343 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: These guys were ripped, like they had six packs. So 344 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: one of them took their shirt off to put on 345 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: the tops we had made for them, and I was like, 346 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: what the hell. Like Sophie's boyfriend was so wous he 347 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: thought we were going to just be hanging out with 348 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: these big eaters and it was like some ripped model 349 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: competitive eater. Well maybe there is something said with that, 350 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: like maybe the ripped fit people are so good at 351 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: it because they limit themselves so much usually that they're 352 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: just so bloody hungry when they try and do these 353 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: food challenges. Well, the craziest thing about the food eaters 354 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: that we that we dealt with was after they'd eaten 355 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: this horrendous amount of two minute noodles, they were all like, oh, 356 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: do you guys want to come with us? We going 357 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: and get burgers. I'm like, what how are you guys 358 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: eating after this? 359 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: This is incredible. 360 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I will warn you though, anyone who checks is out 361 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: you will be you will feel incredibly hungry after this. 362 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: It just made me so hungry. Now, moving on to 363 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: our pit this stems from our conversation last week about 364 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: influencers Madison Woollye and Jonathan Sower. Now, last week we 365 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: were a little bit unsure about their relationship status and 366 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: both as both had unfollowed each other on Instagram, which 367 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: we all know is a big deal in the influencer world. 368 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: We were a little bit happier to see that they 369 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: then did refollow each other and started posting photos anyway, Sophie, 370 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: and my interest was ignited when I think it was 371 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: last Monday, Madison Wooly shared a YouTube entitled Valentine's Day 372 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: slash Real Talk slash Events, and we were like, oh 373 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: my god, she's going to spill the tea on what happened. 374 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I was utterly disappointed. 375 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: I got all set up with my food, ready to 376 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: watch this tea unfold. 377 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: Shall we say? Shall we let's insert a quick of 378 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: what talking Reel was keeping it real with you guys. 379 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: I actually had a really bad afternoon. 380 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: I got some bad news for things. 381 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: I got a bunch of setbacks with a few things. 382 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: I got some bad news and it was just like 383 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: not a good afternoon. So I didn't leave long a lot. 384 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: I feel like you guys know me, like I like 385 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: to be bubbly and always keep my channel a really 386 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: positive environment, and like I want you guys to come 387 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: and watch my videos and like go away like feeling good, 388 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: not feeling like, I don't know, it's sad. So I 389 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: didn't really you know, like chanting much about that. But 390 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: obviously I want to keep it real with you guys 391 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: and leave guys know that not everyone has perfect days 392 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: all the time. So so normal and yeah, I just 393 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 3: didn't really want to walk too much yesday. But we're 394 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: going to look today, new day, starting fresh. 395 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: All go okay, So that was her keeping it real, 396 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: telling her followers that you don't normally like sometimes it's 397 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: not a good day. But what did she actually keep real? 398 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: She didn't actually say what she was upset about. Now. 399 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: I understand people like to keep things private, but if 400 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: your whole occupation is based around the fact of you're 401 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: sharing information about your life, I think that is a. 402 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Slight cop out. 403 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh and then a lot of people were actually commenting 404 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: below saying you and Jonathan still together because she showed 405 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: some of her Valentine's Day, which literally just involved her 406 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: hanging out with her two girlfriends. She did mention that 407 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan had sent her some roses, but then he did 408 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: not appear in the video at all. 409 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: It was all very odd. 410 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: If I was here, I just probably wouldn't have put 411 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: it up altogether. I was going to address the elephant 412 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: in the room. But something obviously happened because she put 413 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: she spends she sorry. Something obviously happened because she did 414 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: say real talk. Yeah, so it's like this clickbaiting thing anyway, 415 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: which there Well, I. 416 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Mean that's a thing. 417 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: No one wants to share details if they've had a 418 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 2: fight with their boyfriend. But I think if you're in 419 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: that sort of like they do actually post a lot 420 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: about their relationship and bade it then no, But I 421 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: think if people are people are invested in their relationship 422 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: and if you're going to make a big deal about 423 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: it online, she kind of keep people up to date 424 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: because I'm sure if they said, look, we actually had 425 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: a really silly tiff and we actually on followed each other, 426 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: this is what happens, people could probably really relate to it. 427 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: So that was our peak being disappointed. How sad are 428 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: we at thirty being disappointed that it two year old 429 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: didn't spill the tea on her tip? Well, I think 430 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: we should move on to what's been making news in 431 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: our social media feeds. 432 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: So for you, what's been making news in yours? 433 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Well, there is a new filter on Instagram and ticked 434 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: that has been attracting a lot of attention for the 435 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: wrong reasons. I don't know if you've seen this one. 436 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: It's called little Icy Eyes No. Now, this filter gives 437 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: users a very kind of cold, icy stare. It makes 438 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: their eyelashes look thicker and also slims down their nose 439 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: and makes their lips larger. 440 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: So it's very similar to a lot of ones that 441 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing. Does it actually look fake? 442 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 2: Like? Could you tell it's a filter? Oh, you definitely 443 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: tell it's a filter. Actually, I reckon I saw a 444 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: shiny grimmin using it because I message Kat. Took a 445 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: screenshot and I message Kate and was like, oh my god, 446 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: she had her nose done. It looks tiny. What's going on? 447 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: And She's like, no, no, it's a filter. I was like, 448 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: oh gosh, it's quite real looking. Well, this filter has 449 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 2: taken off, but a lot of users have been shocked 450 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: because it's actually been banned so this week. As of 451 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: this week, yes, it's been banned now unbeknownst to me, 452 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: and I do take my hat off for Instagram doing that. 453 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: They have a new rule which bans any filter that 454 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: provides a plastic surgery effect, and they have done this 455 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: due to research that suggest that visuals like this negatively 456 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: impact the well being. 457 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Of its users. So, yeah, this filter has been banned. 458 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Do you know what I love that? 459 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: It's like, it's okay for the filters, you know, those 460 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: filters where you look disgusting, that's fine. Anyone that makes 461 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: you look better will just ben Well. I don't think 462 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: the bad filters would be doing much for your mental health. No, 463 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: but it's really interesting because I didn't know that a 464 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: lot of these filters have actually been created by people 465 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: for free, so you can actually create. 466 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Your own filter. And the woman who. 467 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: Created this icy Little Icy Eyes filter, she gained one 468 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand TikTok followers in one day when 469 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: she went viral. 470 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: For this filter. 471 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so there is there could be a bit 472 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: of money made from doing these sort of filters. So 473 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: it's good that there are proper strict rules in place 474 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: about what sort of filter you can have. Well, in 475 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: my news feed, all I've been hearing about is Married 476 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: at First Sight, and I know so for your only updiate, 477 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: I think you're bringing up to the weddings. 478 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: You've got to call Oh my god time. 479 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: Sorry. I'm sorry for anyone out there who loves Married 480 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: at First Sight, but I have only watched one episode 481 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: this year, which is rare for me, and I find 482 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: the people completely tacking. 483 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: You have to push through it. 484 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: You just want to get that, yes, the weddings are boring, 485 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: You've got to push through to the dinner party because 486 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: some real people on there though, like some people that 487 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: actually seem. 488 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Nice look there are some I'm trying to think who's not. 489 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: They all seem the same to me. I can't tell 490 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: them apost Well. 491 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Actually, one person who I think comes across is really 492 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: sweet on the show is Mikey, and he's the one 493 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: who runs a nursing home and he's like best friends 494 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: with his auntie who's got a disability. And anyway, he's 495 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: been partnered with Natasha, who is probably best known on 496 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: the show for getting tanning injections. And she's a lawyer. 497 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: She's a very smart girl, and she was sort of 498 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: portrayed as the woman, the young woman who goes out 499 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: with the older, more powerful businessman. And anyway, I felt 500 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: so awkward this week because there was an episode basically 501 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: it's been to miss week this week, and the experts 502 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: have been claiming it's not just about sex, it's about 503 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: you know, holding hands and learning more about their partners. Basically, 504 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: that's all bullshit. It's just been about pushing all the 505 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: partners to have sex so then they can humiliate them 506 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Sunday session where they asked 507 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: them all these invasive questions. So Mikey and Natasha revealed 508 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: that they actually had slept together, and Mikey made a 509 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: comment in the morning, oh hopefully next something like hopefully 510 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: next time, we better hopefully be longer than ten seconds 511 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: next time. So he said this, or she said so 512 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: he said this, and then they all had a bit 513 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: of a laugh. So then it comes to the dinner 514 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: parties and Natasha walks up to Michael, who's a very 515 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: outspoken character on the show, and they were asking, like 516 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: Michael was asking how things are gone with Natasha that week, 517 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: and she said to Michael and his wife Stacy, Oh, yes, 518 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: you know, we slept together. Hopefully it will last a 519 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: bit longer than ten seconds next time. Ha, Like it 520 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: was the best ten seconds of my life, but I'm 521 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: hoping for twenty seconds next time. And Michael was quite 522 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: furious at this comment. 523 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Can I just say that? But didn't he say it 524 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: in front of everyone before he said it to Natasha? 525 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: So in private? Okay? 526 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: So then what's happened is Michael was just stirring the 527 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: pop this episode. He was picking fights with everybody, and 528 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: he actually told Mikey that what Natasha had said and 529 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: said it was humiliating. Then Mikey stormed off and Natasha's 530 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: confronted Michael about what he said, and Michael's told Natasha 531 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: that she's sex shamed her husband. Now I was thinking, gosh, One, 532 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: I hope kids aren't watching this because this isn't on 533 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: super Late at all. And two, I felt humiliated for 534 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: this poor guy. Can I just say that you said 535 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: before that he said it in private too, Yeah, his bride, 536 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: But wasn't that filmed? 537 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: It was filmed, but I think it was. 538 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: He was saying in a joke way, and the way 539 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 2: that she repeated it to Michael was as if it 540 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: was absolutely factual. So he was kind of laughing it off. 541 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: But he's since gone on kyl and Jackie O and 542 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: he's claimed that yes, they slept together twice and that yes, 543 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: the first time didn't last very long, he said, because 544 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: of the build up to it, and that the second time, 545 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: he which was actually mentioned on the show, he actually 546 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: ended the session because he said he had cramp in 547 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: his foot, and he said on Kylin JACKIEO, he actually 548 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: lied about the cramp. 549 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Why did he like? 550 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Because he said he didn't really find her that attractive, 551 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, I mean, wow, he's coming like. 552 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: He came out. 553 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a dick thing to say. He 554 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: came across so differently on Kylin Jackieoe. I'd advise anybody 555 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: who actually loves Maths to go and check out that 556 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: interview because you'll see a completely different side of Mike King. 557 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think, you know, before we're obviously 558 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: talking about Madison and Jonathan. For wanting to give us 559 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: a bit more details, this is too much detail, Like 560 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: we don't need to hear. 561 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: About these people's sex lives. That's too much. 562 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: Well, it did make me think, like wow, with all 563 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: this stuff going on, being publicly humiliated like that, not 564 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: just at a dinner party with these people, you know, 565 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: but on national television, Like what's that doing to his mentory? 566 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: To be fair, he doesn't have to hit back and 567 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: say he doesn't find her attractive. 568 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Anyway, that's my little Maths wrap 569 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: up for you. 570 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully that entices you to push through the wedding, To. 571 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Be honest, it doesn't. 572 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: Now, there is a TV show that I am excited for, 573 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: and that is The New Friends Reunion. And I don't 574 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: know about anyone else, but on Saturday morning, when I 575 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: saw all of the cast post the announcement, I was 576 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: just so excited. I actually thought it was just clickbait 577 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: because every year there seems to be a rumored that 578 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: Friends is going. 579 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: To come back. 580 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it is interesting that it comes months just 581 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: months after the twenty fifth anniversary of the show, Oh 582 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: my gosh, and months after Jennifer Jennifer Aiston joined Instagram. 583 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah that interesting. 584 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: Well she did hint to that there was that there 585 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: was a new project involving the cast in last year. 586 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: So for those who didn't see it, all of the 587 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: cast posted the same photo and then wrote underneath it's happening. 588 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: So at first though I thought it was actually going 589 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: to be a couple of episodes. Yeah, but then I 590 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: obviously found out that it's an unscripted special, which I 591 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: wasn't as thrilled about. 592 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: Oh so they were all going to be sitting around 593 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: discussing the show. Oh that's kind of interesting. 594 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: I just clicked on Jennifer Andison's Instagram because I actually 595 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: hadn't seen the photo yet, and. 596 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, they look good, and I was like. 597 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: Wait, this is from when Friends began. Okay. What is 598 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: quite shocking is that each cast member is reportedly being 599 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: paid between two point five and three million dollars just 600 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: to appear in this one episode, and that is double 601 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: what they were paid for the last series of Friends 602 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: for each episode, So that's quite a lot of money 603 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: on the line for this show. Now onto our last topic. 604 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: With another series of Love Island UK coming to an end, 605 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: secrets have started to leak about some of the activity 606 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: inside the amy. What are some of these secrets that 607 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: are coming out? Well, Oli from this year's Love Island 608 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: Winter edition has spoken out on a UK podcast and 609 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: he's revealed some pretty juicy details about how the casts 610 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: were actually selected. So he's confirmed that one hundred percent 611 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 2: of the cast did not apply. Unfortunately, that's not really 612 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 2: a shock to me. Well, okay, so the casting did 613 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: their managers apply for them? No? So Ollie said that 614 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: he got a message on Instagram, so producers have been 615 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: scouting on there. But it did surprise me a little 616 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: bit because I thought maybe at least half might have auditioned. 617 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: In half because last year, six of the islanders actually applied. 618 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Now can you guess who they were? I think it 619 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: was Amy Hart. 620 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Amy was one of them. I'm actually struggling to 621 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: remember many of them from last year, apart from the 622 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: obvious Molly, who I don't think would have applied, and 623 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: more who I don't think it would have applied. No, 624 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: so it was Michael o Ving and Joe and that 625 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: surprised me. Yeah, and then two contestants in Cassa are more. 626 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Anyway. 627 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Another piece of goss he dropped that may not come 628 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: as a surprise to you, Sophie is the fact that 629 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: you know, when they do their little entrance videos and 630 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: they talk themselves up. He said that they are just 631 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: told exactly what to say. I don't know if you remember, 632 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: but he famously said in his little intro that he 633 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: was the heir to an estate, and he said, what 634 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: actually happened is they asked him what he did and 635 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: he said, I'm a farmer from Cornwall. And then they said, wait, 636 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: aren't you that heir to the estate? Can you say 637 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: that instead? So he said, all of those intros absolute bullshit, 638 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: which when you think about it, it's funny because they 639 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: all come in or talk and then they're all actually 640 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: quite lovely. So I see Jeordie Shaw. They're intros that 641 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: they used to take. Well. Talking about Jordie Shaw, he 642 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: and some other sites have actually revealed some connections between 643 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Love Island contestants and also connections with Jordie Shaw stars. 644 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: So it's come out that you know luke M the 645 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Love of It? Do you know luke M? 646 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: So, Lukem's the guy that looks like Justin Bieber. 647 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: He was actually on an episode of Jordie Show. He 648 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: was the guy that was chatting up Vicki, and Vicky 649 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: said on camera, Oh, I've been chatted up by Justin 650 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: Bieber's little brother. 651 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: Do you know what? 652 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: I would have more expected Rebecca to be on Jeordie Show. 653 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people were saying she did apply for 654 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: the wrong show and that she should have been on 655 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: Jordy Shore over Love Island. Well, actually some of the 656 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Jordi Show cast members have been commenting on her Instagram, 657 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: so there is thought that she is friends with some 658 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: of them. 659 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: That does make sense. 660 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: So Amber, who won last year's Love Ireland, she's also 661 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: friendly with Rebecca, so there's thought that maybe she put 662 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: her forward for Love Island. And then also you know 663 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: Jess one of the twins. She and Alexi, who was 664 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: one of the guys that came into the villa like 665 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: the cast. Yeah, they apparently exchanged Instagram handles in the nightclub. 666 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of like how Curtis Pritchard had slid 667 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: into more Higgins dms. 668 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: But that made me feel so old. 669 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, so people don't give their phone numbers out, 670 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: they exchange Instagram hands. I don't know if that's everyone 671 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: or if that's just certain people. Well, Sophie is also 672 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: have said to have known Kem who was on a 673 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: few series ago who won as well. 674 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: So there's all these. 675 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Different connections going on which are rather interesting. And there 676 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: also seems to be some stuff leaked about the contracts 677 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: that Love Island has in place. 678 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: What is that information? 679 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: Well, according to Ollie, they've signed an agreement saying that 680 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 2: they're not going to engage in any sexual activity that 681 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: might upset others. And so he was actually referencing masturbation 682 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: in the villa basically, and he said that it's so 683 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: difficult to actually do that because there's cameras everywhere. Even 684 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: in the toilets they have cameras, so they're CCTV cameras 685 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: are presumably for their welfare, but he said that you 686 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: can't do you can't masturbate in the bed because there's 687 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: somebody sleeping next to them. Well, it also sounds like 688 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: this rule is in place. I mean, if we think 689 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: back to Big Brother a number of years ago when 690 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: they had that turkey slapping incident, I suppose that is 691 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: in there to make sure that everyone's safe and baby 692 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: don't get a hand. Well. Love Island's actually been praised though, 693 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: because in previous series the Islanders have actually all slept together, 694 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: but in the past too, they haven't. Well, I think 695 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: there's been rumors that Finn and Page may have, but 696 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: nothing's been confirmed, but it's a found. 697 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: Get from the footage that they showed the other night. 698 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's meant to be a bit more family friendly, 699 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: and it really has been, besides their discussions from the 700 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: breakfast club as they're calling it. But I think we'll 701 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: leave it at that. I think that's enough Love Island 702 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: Gossip and the finale actually aired in the UK today. 703 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: We're recording this on a Monday, but we're not going 704 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: to spoil anything because I know it hasn't aired here yet, 705 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: but it looks like it's going to be a huge episode. 706 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: Well that's probably all. 707 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: We have time for today. 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