WEBVTT - What you didn’t know about daylight saving

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is brought to you by Koala now Zara

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<v Speaker 1>Daylight Saving has officially ended as of this morning. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>It gets darker earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one part of it, which we are about

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<v Speaker 1>to explain in the pod. But the most important thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that most of us, depending on what state or

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<v Speaker 1>territory you're in, just got an extra hour of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Daily OS. Oh now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks of April.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm billyfit Simon's, I'm Zara Seidler.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here, bright and early on a Sunday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you another bonus episode because it is a course,

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<v Speaker 1>a very special day. If you're woken up this morning

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<v Speaker 1>thinking Wow, what a beautiful morning, the sun is shining

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<v Speaker 1>and I've woken up earlier than I usually do, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because daylight saving has officially ended. Now it is

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<v Speaker 1>one of two times during the year that clocks change,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one is the good one because it's when

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<v Speaker 1>the clocks go backwards and you gain an extra hour

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep. Today, we're going to explain to you why

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have daylight saving in the first place, and

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<v Speaker 1>answer the questions that you've probably thought about over the

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<v Speaker 1>years but you've never actually known the answers to. And

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<v Speaker 1>just a quick note before we get started that this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is sponsored by Koala, who care about making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you are getting a very good night's sleep, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have had no editorial influence over the content that

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<v Speaker 1>we are sharing in today's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy, I think you're the only person in the whole

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia who has referred to daylight saving ending as

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<v Speaker 2>the good one of the post.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean days get shorter, Yeah, but we gain

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<v Speaker 1>an extra hour of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>In the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of those weird people and it's taken

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<v Speaker 1>me many years to come to terms with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I think I am finally confident enough to admit

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<v Speaker 1>that I like winter. I think I'd prefer it more than.

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<v Speaker 3>I her.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I feel like I will be shunned by

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<v Speaker 1>society for saying that, but actually I like that it's

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<v Speaker 1>darker in the afternoons, and I'm finally not sorry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, if you means shunned by society, meaning shunned

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<v Speaker 2>by me, correct dead to me. Anyway, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. So obviously we're talking about the clocks changing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going into a different season. How does the end

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<v Speaker 2>of daylight saving affect something like your sleep? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>have a partner who, for three weeks after clocks change,

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<v Speaker 2>will tell me every night that he's had an extra

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<v Speaker 2>hour of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>He's right, basically, I mean it was only this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>but still you feel the impacts of it for a

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<v Speaker 1>few days after. Definitely. So when the clocks go back

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<v Speaker 1>like they just did this morning, it is better for

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<v Speaker 1>our sleep than when they go forward, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's the good ones. Okay, so obviously we all just

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<v Speaker 1>gained this extra hour of sleep, which is a positive

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how you see it. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>usually those positive effects do last for a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do then subside. But also during winter, we

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<v Speaker 1>usually do sleep better because since it gets darker earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>our body clocks start getting ready for sleep earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that we do go to bed earlier

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<v Speaker 1>and usually we're getting longer nights sleep, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing. Again, it's when we lose an hour of

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<v Speaker 1>sleep when daylight saving. I always want to say daylight savings, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually, honestly that the most complex part of this hour.

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<v Speaker 1>But so when daylight saving begins again, that's when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not great and it can be quite disruptive to out

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<v Speaker 1>sleep cycles. But for now, and for Zara's partner Olie

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Olie, we can all enjoy it for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So really, I mean that all makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing that perhaps doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of sense to me is why we have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I have to interrupt you quickly because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that I have one question that I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that I would really like someone in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience to tell me. Okay, so I have not been

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<v Speaker 1>at a club when daylight saving has ended?

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<v Speaker 2>Club club?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like I can't help you out. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to know if anyone's been at a club

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<v Speaker 1>when that has happened. Do they get an extra hour

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<v Speaker 1>at the club because of daylight at the club? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we still call it a club not shot nightclub? I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. Maybe it sounds really triocky, but do

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<v Speaker 1>you get an extra hour at the nightclub when daylight

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<v Speaker 1>saving ends?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's where your brain went. My brain w to

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare workers who are doing overnight shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're a much better person than me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's because I remember talking to someone once about

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not you get paid for the extra hour

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<v Speaker 2>of work.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the answer. Wait, that's such an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>They must they must, I mean, let us know. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a healthcare worker, if you get paid an

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<v Speaker 2>extra hour for working on this Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>And forget about the nightclub question. Now I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I'm just going to segue and move forward from

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<v Speaker 2>there to the thing I think we're all thinking about, Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>why do we have daylight saving?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's all got to do with the Earth's rotation. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as many of us know from our year sick science classes,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to mister Ronaldson, the sun rises and sets

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<v Speaker 1>at different times throughout the year as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth rotating on its axis. And also, as we all remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth is also moving around the Sun, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of that movement that it means that there are

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<v Speaker 1>times when Australia gets it's more sunshine and then also

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<v Speaker 1>times that we get less sunshine. Now, daylight saving is

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<v Speaker 1>all about maximizing how much sun we get during the

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<v Speaker 1>warmer months. So if we go back to just right

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<v Speaker 1>before summer started in October, that's when we move the

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<v Speaker 1>clocks forward so that everyone can enjoy more sunshine in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. And you know, you and I live on

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast in Australia and you'll often see at

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<v Speaker 1>the beach at like eight pm or eight thirty pm

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<v Speaker 1>people are somehow still like some baking on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because of daylight saving that they can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then in April, what we had this morning, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the clocks go back and it becomes much darker

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoons. Like you said, by the time we're

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<v Speaker 1>leaving work, it is often the sun is often setting

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<v Speaker 1>and it's getting darker, so that's when daylight saving ends.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're no longer in the daylight saving period.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so if we didn't change the clocks, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be super dark like it has been for the last

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<v Speaker 2>cup weeks every time I've woken up to get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so tack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If we didn't do this every April, by the time

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<v Speaker 1>winter arrives, many of us would end up heading to

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<v Speaker 1>school and work in the literal dark again, just because

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<v Speaker 1>of how the Southern hemisphere is positioned in relation to

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<v Speaker 1>the sun during that time. So, for example, the sun

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<v Speaker 1>would rise at about eight thirty am in Adelaide in

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<v Speaker 1>June if daylight saving didn't end.

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<v Speaker 2>Very Scandinavian now, apart from us obviously enjoying the sun

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<v Speaker 2>for longer in summer, that isn't actually why it started, though, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Started for a different reason. It started to help energy usage.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting, so interesting, I only just learned about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was first popularized as a way to conserve

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<v Speaker 1>fuel in European countries during World War One, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>because with more daylight at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than the beginning, people could drive home and cook

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<v Speaker 1>their dinners by daylight instead of needing to use gas

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<v Speaker 1>or electric lights to see what they were doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>that started in Europe during World War One. Australia soon

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<v Speaker 1>followed and it used daylight saving as well during war,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it dropped it in peacetime. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>idea stuck around, and it was in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties that Tasmania always a trailblazer. They brought it back

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<v Speaker 1>during a drought that left water supplies for hydroelectric energy

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<v Speaker 1>dangerously low, and so that meant that they brought it

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<v Speaker 1>back again to conserve energy, and Tasmania has had it

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, and most other regions followed suit in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and the logic still obviously holds up today because when

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<v Speaker 1>it's lighter in the afternoons, you don't need to use

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<v Speaker 1>electricity for your lights.

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<v Speaker 2>You said there that most other regions followed suit after

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<v Speaker 2>Tazzi went first. But daylight saving isn't a thing in

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<v Speaker 2>all states and territories right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So it's not in Queensland, WA, or the Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Territory Zara. Do you know what those three jurisdictions have in.

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<v Speaker 2>Common anyone that I have a meeting with in any

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<v Speaker 2>three of those jurisdictions, I get the time wrong with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's because they're in a different time zone. Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my answer to the question.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the real answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the real answer is because they are Australia's three

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<v Speaker 1>largest jurisdictions by land area. When I learned this, I

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<v Speaker 1>was confused because I thought that New South Wales would

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<v Speaker 1>have been part of the top three, but no, Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Territory is actually larger than New South Wales. Now, their

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<v Speaker 1>sheer size means that there is a big divide between

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<v Speaker 1>the coastal city dwellers who want an extra hour of

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<v Speaker 1>sun in the evening, and then the rural and farming

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<v Speaker 1>communities who are getting up for work who want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be light in the morning and who don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, sweating through the afternoon working. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia, which is our largest state, they have actually

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<v Speaker 1>held four failed referendums over the years on daylight saving

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<v Speaker 1>and in the last referendum, the no vote was strongest

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<v Speaker 1>again in regional and rural areas, with a whopping eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of voters in the central wheat belt say

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<v Speaker 1>no to daylight saving. And for farmers, daylight saving can

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<v Speaker 1>be really disruptive, not just for themselves and their work schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for their livestock.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've heard this a lot before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we know that for cows, for example, daylight

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<v Speaker 1>saving it can really confuse them if suddenly the light

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<v Speaker 1>schedule is changing, and it really disrupts their natural cycles

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Queensland is especially split, so you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>different hours of daylight, and there are different climates and

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<v Speaker 1>different work all of these make for really different ideas

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<v Speaker 1>about daylight saving and it's quite a controversial topic there.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked this one quote that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>read out, which I think will end on It was

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<v Speaker 1>from a Queensland MP when the state debated daylight saving

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. They said, if one lived in cans

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<v Speaker 1>in summertime, the two things that one would not want

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<v Speaker 1>would be more sunshine and more daylight, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is quite fair. It must be extremely hot. I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that's the last thing you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, just as we end this, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's interesting that this is not a uniquely Australian

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that we're having I remember when I was researching

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<v Speaker 2>this a few years ago. The US is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>having this ongoing similar debate. There's been a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>legislation in the Senate, I'm pretty sure for years age.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I check, it's just stalled there. So look,

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<v Speaker 2>no one can agree. Of course, Australia is such a

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<v Speaker 2>big country, so divided, so many needs, so many perspectives.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I understand a little more about daylight saving.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much, Billy, thank you, and a

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<v Speaker 2>massive thank you to Kohala for making this episode possible.

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<v Speaker 2>We will of course be back with our deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning, but until then, enjoy the shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, enjoy the extra hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, all a matter of perspective, my name

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<v Speaker 3>is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda bunge Lung

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<v Speaker 3>Kalgotin woman from Gadigal Country. The Daily oz acknowledges that

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast is on the lands of the Gadigal people

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<v Speaker 3>and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Straight Island

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<v Speaker 3>and nations. We pay our respects to the first peoples

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