WEBVTT - Chiwetel Ejiofor and Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Get a Pete Helly here. Welcome to you Ain't Seen

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing Yet? The movie podcast Wire, our chat to a

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<v Speaker 1>movie lover about a classic or loved movie they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>quite got around to watching until now. In today's guest

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar nominee, chewital as you for.

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<v Speaker 2>All below.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stay here with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank the jobber, my nay shucked, my fail that you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't happening right.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't seen nothing yet?

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind, what an exciting episode of you

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't Seen Nothing Yet today?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we have.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I might be wrong, but I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our first Oscar nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>He was nominated for an Oscar for twelve Years a Slave,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has been in many of my favorite films,

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<v Speaker 1>including a film that I am growingly becoming obsessed with,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Children of Men by Alfonso Kron and he's

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a perfect movie. We had a guest

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<v Speaker 2>who nominated it as one of their favorite movies and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Checked it out after they mentioned it, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing film. I thought it was really

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<v Speaker 1>good when I first saw it, but it's spectacular. So

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<v Speaker 1>we get the chat Chewadel about that, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a break in protocol. And I should

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<v Speaker 1>also mention I'm recording this intro in an apartment in

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney because I've been there for Peter and the Starcatcher

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Briege and soon the interview is done under

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<v Speaker 1>lott bit junk condition set up by Universal Pictures. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate or their helping as system with this interview, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all clean audio for the interview, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a break from traditional Yasny protocol.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to ask somebody doing a junk at the

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<v Speaker 2>squeeze in the time to watch a film.

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<v Speaker 1>So I discuss Childwell's three favorite films of his and

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<v Speaker 1>then we discuss a little grab bag of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>chiwitel as you four films, which include Twelve Years of Slave,

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<v Speaker 1>Children of Men and Kinky Boots. I was tossing up

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<v Speaker 1>because we had a certain amount of time whether to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about Kinky Boots or love actually, but I assume

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of stuff about his thoughts on love Actually.

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<v Speaker 1>I was curious to see how he remembered Kinky Boots

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a big film for him and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was his first lead, but firstly maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the major picture motion picture.

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<v Speaker 2>He done Love Actually, which of course was an ensemble.

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<v Speaker 5>He's only a pretty good time around around that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually made Love Actually in two thousand and three, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you Boots in two thousand and five, and he

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<v Speaker 1>makes Children of Men in two thousand and six. But

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<v Speaker 1>you get to discuss what it was like working on

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years a slide, the responsibility that came without, how

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<v Speaker 1>he shok the character off, and the time that took

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<v Speaker 1>working with Joel.

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<v Speaker 2>Edgend In Kicky Boots.

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<v Speaker 1>His love for that film, and also just the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>movie Children of Men, and that amazing ambush scene that

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<v Speaker 1>was almost a one take action masterpiece. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy Chewardelle as before he is in town. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in Sydney for Bridget Jones Mad about the Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I recommend those who have followed Bridget on her

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<v Speaker 1>adventures this is not the time to get off.

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<v Speaker 2>I were quite moved by the film. It's as funny

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<v Speaker 2>as I think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other installments, this one I found more moving for many reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, But yeah, check it out. Get to a cinema,

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<v Speaker 1>watch movies in a cinema when you can. But I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely stoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hang yet? Cheered out?

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<v Speaker 6>D four?

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<v Speaker 7>Toda Hi, my name is CHURTI ledio four. My three

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<v Speaker 7>favorite films are Bicycle Theme and Andre Rubelev That's.

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<v Speaker 5>And Do the Right Thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on?

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<v Speaker 5>What what? Always? Do the right thing?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, That's it, I got it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gone. Do you miss Tis?

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<v Speaker 8>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 9>I miss him all of the times.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you survive?

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<v Speaker 9>I think so.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not enough to survive, You've got to live, just Harry.

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<v Speaker 9>Miss don't welcome now. That is what I call a rebrand.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you have sex?

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<v Speaker 9>Did you have sex? Did you have sex last night?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes? I did.

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<v Speaker 11>I had a full night of utterly mind blowing sex

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<v Speaker 11>and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 9>Bridget Jones, It's time to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget Jones is back and she isn't in great shape.

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<v Speaker 1>And no it's not because she's hitting the bottle or

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<v Speaker 1>pining for a man. It's kind of the opposite. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bridget, played brilliantly once again by Rene Zoweger, is

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<v Speaker 1>mourning the death of her beloved mister Darcy Colin Firth,

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<v Speaker 1>with two young children to raise with a somewhat shambolic

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<v Speaker 1>help from Uncle Daniel Cleaver, the always watchable Hu Grant

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<v Speaker 1>in full sleeze mode once again. But it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget Jones to get out of her slump, to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into the workforce, connected with friends, and yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>to find her next love. When a tree climbing missap

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<v Speaker 1>brings the attention of her kids, teacher mister Walker, today's guest,

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<v Speaker 1>the always classy chewill Edge You four and the younger

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<v Speaker 1>Chap Rockster White lotuses Leo Woodall. It provides the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for the more mature Bridget to try something and someone

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<v Speaker 1>new in life.

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<v Speaker 9>There are memories that will never leave us. I like

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<v Speaker 9>you very much, just as you are. But sometimes those

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<v Speaker 9>memories are suddenly bridges. Oh we left with.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome to you and see nothing yet real. It's a

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<v Speaker 11>pleasure to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, And I'm relieved because I've seen well, i've

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<v Speaker 1>seen two of the three of these films. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to educate me on one of them, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Andre reblov And from nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 10>I know of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's considered one of the great art house

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<v Speaker 1>movies of all time. I somehow know there's a cow

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<v Speaker 1>that is on fire and some some reason I know

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<v Speaker 1>that tell us about it, and what do you like

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<v Speaker 1>it so much?

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<v Speaker 7>So it's a Tarkovski film, and it is a beautiful epic,

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<v Speaker 7>a religious epic really around the life of Andre Rublev

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<v Speaker 7>and his sort of his struggles as a as an

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<v Speaker 7>artist and as a religious figure in this time of

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<v Speaker 7>great change in Russia and these very sort of violent

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<v Speaker 7>encounters and struggles, a period of great political life, of

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<v Speaker 7>great emotional life, of great emotional striving. And you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I was struck by the film because I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>struck by Tarkovsky generally like everybody else. The imaging that

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<v Speaker 7>he uses, the kind of systems of shooting he uses,

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<v Speaker 7>the the way that there's a kind of very visceral

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<v Speaker 7>reaction and a kind of profound intelligence to the work

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<v Speaker 7>that's being done. That is, you know, that is present

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<v Speaker 7>throughout his films, and that was present throughout his career,

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<v Speaker 7>and a sort of a shortened career because he died

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<v Speaker 7>relatively early. But I think because Rublev is so ambitious,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, because it is so so epic in its scale,

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<v Speaker 7>and because the kind of epic quality of it seems

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<v Speaker 7>almost I mean it's hard to say like this, but

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<v Speaker 7>it seems almost easily achieved. You really feel that you're

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<v Speaker 7>confidently in the presence of somebody who has mastered scale

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<v Speaker 7>in cinematic language.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are.

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<v Speaker 7>Sequences that you can go back to time and time

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<v Speaker 7>again and marvel not only the sort of imagination that

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<v Speaker 7>they would have required, but also the fact that you

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<v Speaker 7>would attempt at that some would attempt this sort of

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<v Speaker 7>at all and achieve it so beautifully. These kind of

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<v Speaker 7>sequences with thousands of extras, these sequences with everything on fire,

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<v Speaker 7>these war sequences, but also these sequences of celebrations. There

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<v Speaker 7>are sequences that are aerial, you know, shots from balloons

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<v Speaker 7>and shots from the top of these church towers, and

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<v Speaker 7>there are you know, these shots in the water and

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<v Speaker 7>communities meeting each other. There is such beautiful poetry in

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<v Speaker 7>the filming, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You make them social change, which is runs through I

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<v Speaker 1>think your three favorite films and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>movies you've made in your career. But do the Right Thing,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that film make mean to you?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean, do the Right Thing is epic in

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<v Speaker 7>a kind of different way, you know it is. It

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<v Speaker 7>really does capture a moment in time. It's still relevant today.

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<v Speaker 7>But the kind of the discussion of the tensions, the tensions,

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<v Speaker 7>the racial tensions in America, that it brings up this

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<v Speaker 7>idea of there being a real conversation to be had,

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<v Speaker 7>and are people prepared to have these conversations, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and what is the result of these conversations. To set

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<v Speaker 7>that film in that in that time, For Spikey to

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<v Speaker 7>place it, and to place that argument so vehemently with

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<v Speaker 7>such kind of clarity and strength, I think was the

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<v Speaker 7>thing that ingrained it as an idea into the minds

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<v Speaker 7>of everybody who watched that film. It was again a

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<v Speaker 7>sort of perfectly realized way of having a very complicated

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<v Speaker 7>conversation with an audience.

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<v Speaker 1>It was he was the first time I heard or

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<v Speaker 1>answer the argument. Spikeley made the argument that film's idea

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<v Speaker 1>is or purpose is to present problems and then for

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<v Speaker 1>the audience to debate them. And I think some writers do,

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<v Speaker 1>mean some critics get confused about trying to fix the

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<v Speaker 1>world through movies. It's not we can promote, debate and

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<v Speaker 1>have arguments. And he mentioned, you know, the whole debate

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<v Speaker 1>about did Murky did do the right thing? And he

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<v Speaker 1>says only white people ever asking that question, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that what you like when you watch a

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<v Speaker 1>film that is just prompting a debate or a new

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<v Speaker 1>way of thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think that's part of it, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like that film actually does land on a side,

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<v Speaker 7>It has a position. I think that the sort of

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<v Speaker 7>the final questions I think are kind of the debate.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think it's just in the presentation of the

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<v Speaker 7>conditions and the overall.

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<v Speaker 5>Context of a life.

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<v Speaker 7>You have so many answers to to what is, to

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<v Speaker 7>what was then what still continues in some ways, to

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<v Speaker 7>go on, and to be able to have that conversation

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<v Speaker 7>without the.

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<v Speaker 5>Need for explicitly stating anything.

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<v Speaker 7>But through images, through characters, through conversations, through the dynamics,

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<v Speaker 7>through cinematography, through sound, through music, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 7>have these very developed concepts looked at, thought about, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think people come away from it changed. You know

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<v Speaker 7>that even if they feel like, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>if he did the right thing or didn't do the

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<v Speaker 7>right thing, what they actually come away from is a

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<v Speaker 7>better understanding of the world. And that I think is

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<v Speaker 7>really what films can achieve. You know, if you come

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<v Speaker 7>out of a film and you're looking at the world

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<v Speaker 7>in a slightly different way. You know, then you've really

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<v Speaker 7>truly had a cinematic experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Basycle Themes I've loved for it's the first foreign language

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<v Speaker 1>film I ever watched when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 5>What does that film mean to you? Well so much.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, Bicycle Themes is a film of just this

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<v Speaker 7>kind of deep profundity. First of all, I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>the relationship between a father and a son that and

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<v Speaker 7>I think when I first watched that film, it was

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<v Speaker 7>the first time I had seen that relationship represented quite

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<v Speaker 7>as powerfully as that one is. Just the love and

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<v Speaker 7>that bond seemed so deep to me. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 7>a sequences he walks towards the river when he thinks

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<v Speaker 7>Bruno might have fallen in and you know, they've had

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<v Speaker 7>an argument and he's stormed off, and then he hears

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<v Speaker 7>that a boy has fallen in the river, so he

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<v Speaker 7>starts to walk back, and there's a close up shot

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<v Speaker 7>of his face as he's walking back, and you see

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<v Speaker 7>a beautiful piece of acting by the way that you

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<v Speaker 7>see the doubt and the concern and the fear creep

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<v Speaker 7>into his face as he thinks, could it be, could

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<v Speaker 7>it be? Is there any chance that they're calling for Bruno?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>And then he starts to run and starts to scream

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<v Speaker 7>the name of his son, and then eventually he finds

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<v Speaker 7>him and they're embrace, and that moment is absolutely heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the film for a lot of that kind

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<v Speaker 7>of postwar Italian circumstance and all of the questions it

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<v Speaker 7>asks about ethics and morality, about circumstances, about the social

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<v Speaker 7>structures that we live in.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a deep and profound and beautifully sharp film.

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<v Speaker 7>And all amateur actors, yeah, exactly, found actors, including the

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<v Speaker 7>adult axes. Often people talk about it in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>the young actors and they say, oh, these are young,

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<v Speaker 7>but everybody in that film is really sort of coming

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<v Speaker 7>to that. It was arriving in that moment into the

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<v Speaker 7>into that that's and take on the mantle of it

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<v Speaker 7>with such precision. So Desika did an extraordinary job.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's jump forward to why you're here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge Giants A matter about the boy? Congratulations? Sorry last

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<v Speaker 1>week I've seen all Bridge Jones films, have enjoyed all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. This one was speaking of somebody about I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's as funny as all the other films, but with

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<v Speaker 1>this one there is it got me like emotionally, I I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I whether a tear roll down my check,

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<v Speaker 1>but my eyes were watering that this, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the great the whole grief thing really struck me emotionally.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the most emotional I've gotten watching a Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>Janons film.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that the what I loved about it when

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<v Speaker 7>I read the script was that it had all of

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<v Speaker 7>exactly as you're saying, and had all of the humor.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody put it this way recently. They said, it's like

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<v Speaker 7>nothing's changed except everything. I think that's a really beautiful

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<v Speaker 7>way of describing it. I just I felt like it

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<v Speaker 7>had all of that humor, but it had this layering

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<v Speaker 7>of this kind of emotional base to it that felt

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<v Speaker 7>very authentic and very very real.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's it is that thing.

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<v Speaker 7>About all of the sort of challenges of growing of

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<v Speaker 7>growing older, the different things you face. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>but having Bridget in this phase of life, it means

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<v Speaker 7>that you can have all of that optimism and that

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<v Speaker 7>perseverance and that kindness frankly, and still feel that it's

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<v Speaker 7>relevant in middle age. I mean to still feel like,

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<v Speaker 7>actually that gets you through some of the sort of

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<v Speaker 7>profound challenges that you can face. It this at a

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<v Speaker 7>certain time in life. And so I felt it just

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<v Speaker 7>had a real riches. It was almost as if Bridget

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<v Speaker 7>Jones had found her moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and it was and it was now comedies

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<v Speaker 1>are hard to get made, and they're hard to make work,

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<v Speaker 1>but here we are fourth, you know, installment of Bridge Jions.

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<v Speaker 1>What what is it about Bridge Gionts and the character

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<v Speaker 1>of Helen Fielding created And now Rene Zelwega has.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that it's there's a lot of different factors.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, I think absolutely that Helen Fielding right from

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<v Speaker 7>the beginning, there was a very there was I remember

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<v Speaker 7>at the beginning, there was that intrigue, you know, when

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<v Speaker 7>the in the in the newspapers, when it when it

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<v Speaker 7>first came out, you know, as as a sort of

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<v Speaker 7>in the journal you know that was printed I think

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<v Speaker 7>weekly was the Bridget Jones Diary, and it was fun

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<v Speaker 7>and everybody was kind of excited about it. And then

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<v Speaker 7>and then it turned into the book, the first book,

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<v Speaker 7>and there was a lot of excitement about that, and

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<v Speaker 7>I hadn't I didn't read the book at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>but I was familiar with the newspaper and then and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, obviously everybody was talking about the book and

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<v Speaker 7>then and then the film, you know, so I came

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<v Speaker 7>to it then with the film, and I just fell.

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<v Speaker 5>In love with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that it was incredibly fresh.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, just it had in this character, very very funny,

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<v Speaker 7>but also something unique, you know, just something that was

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<v Speaker 7>about everybody that was that felt like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 7>character didn't say the right.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing or do the right thing, but it wasn't sort

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<v Speaker 5>of broad comedic. It was it felt very real.

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<v Speaker 7>And I had loved Renee from before, and to see

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<v Speaker 7>her in this film it was sort of surprising to

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<v Speaker 7>me because obviously she was an American actress, and yet

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<v Speaker 7>she was doing something that was so specific in terms

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<v Speaker 7>of the kind of Britishness that she was that she

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<v Speaker 7>sort of pinpointed that it sort of felt like, you know, witchcraft,

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<v Speaker 7>and it felt like sorcery.

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<v Speaker 5>She just got it so right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so do you think sometimes those comedic performances don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the accolades that they deserve because it is a

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<v Speaker 1>stunning performance.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's you know, absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's just that everything about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because having to get into the manners, having to get

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<v Speaker 7>into the specifics, having to perform in that way, and

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<v Speaker 7>that at that level, you know, you know, I'd seen it.

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<v Speaker 7>I was first aware of her and Jerry maguire, so

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<v Speaker 7>it was a completely different you know, she brought the

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<v Speaker 7>same authenticity and energy in a way, but it was

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<v Speaker 7>a completely different sort of line of it. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's why people were just crazy about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>when it came out and they felt so seen and

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<v Speaker 7>represented by it, and I think it sort of set

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<v Speaker 7>off this kind of huge wave of affection it became,

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<v Speaker 7>and that I think is the reason that it became

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<v Speaker 7>so beloved. It's so optimistic and this idea of somebody

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<v Speaker 7>being able to persevere, you know, through it all. I

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<v Speaker 7>think we all feel out of step with the world sometimes,

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<v Speaker 7>you know that we're kind of trying to catch up,

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<v Speaker 7>or we're spinning plates and some of them are falling,

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<v Speaker 7>and we're blaming ourselves, you know, for all of these things,

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<v Speaker 7>and then along come somebody who says, don't worry about

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<v Speaker 7>all that. You know, yes, we spend all of this

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<v Speaker 7>time judging ourselves and blaming ourselves, but actually, you know what,

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<v Speaker 7>you can still win, and you can do it with

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<v Speaker 7>optimism and kindness. And I think there was something very

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<v Speaker 7>it's something that still lasts and almost feels like right now.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a it's it's a it's a message that I

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<v Speaker 7>think can be really her.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets the mixture out of being right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason for this film to exist. Absolutely that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the passing of you know, mister Darcy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's not relying and sorry, it also feels nostalgic,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not relying on nostalgia. But watching the film

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing you Grant again and then Thompson, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. But also what I was quite touched

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<v Speaker 1>by was her little circle of friends, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sally Phillips, and it was really I was quite moved

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<v Speaker 1>to see them again and that those friendships continue totally.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's all about love, isn't it in a way,

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<v Speaker 7>and all of the different kinds of love that you

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<v Speaker 7>that you experience, and obviously there's romantic love, but then

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<v Speaker 7>there's the love of family, you know, the love of parents,

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<v Speaker 7>the love of children, you know, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there's love of friends, which doesn't often get talked about,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, quite as much. But this is a very

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<v Speaker 7>profound love that we have in our lives. And that

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<v Speaker 7>kind of support system and that kind of chosen family

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<v Speaker 7>is so important. And I think one of the things

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<v Speaker 7>about this is exactly that sense of feeling, oh, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, she's held onto all of these relationships, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm so happy that in the twenty five years that

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<v Speaker 7>I've been able.

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<v Speaker 5>To do that too, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's another way that you relate to her and

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<v Speaker 7>you reflect on how important those relationships have been for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you carrige everyone to go to the cinema. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I see Prittis Jones, met that boy and have a

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<v Speaker 1>laugh with people around you. I want to jump around

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit now to your studying career. Obviously nominated

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<v Speaker 1>for the OSCAR for twelve years.

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<v Speaker 5>A slave. I want to ask you what part of

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<v Speaker 5>the country you come from. I originate from Canada.

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<v Speaker 9>I guess where that is.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I know where Canada is. I've been there myself.

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<v Speaker 9>We'll traveled for a slave.

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<v Speaker 6>Solomon Northolk is an expert player on the violin.

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<v Speaker 5>I was born a free men, lived with my family

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<v Speaker 5>in New York. Been good for your mother until the

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<v Speaker 5>day I was to see to Solomon kidnapped, sold into slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can go back, can you remember, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>accepting that role, the responsibility that comes with that. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember what you were feeling on day one of

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<v Speaker 1>filming or the night before, you know, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the select, like just rolling up to that set. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible actors around you. You know it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>big film. The pressure must have been on you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did you deal with it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? It was very interesting, you know. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 7>We got down to Louisiana for you know, a few

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<v Speaker 7>weeks before to do some rehearsals and to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>go to some of the locations and have a look

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<v Speaker 7>around basically just to get a feel for what was.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of going on.

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<v Speaker 7>And I do think that there was a sense of,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, kind of a building pressure. It's like this

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<v Speaker 7>kind of energy that's sort of arriving that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and it is it's something that you're trying to control

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of the time, you know, because you do

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<v Speaker 7>feel this sense of responsibility the sense of the kind

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<v Speaker 7>of weight that you're meeting an occasion in a way,

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<v Speaker 7>and then I think it's really I think the first

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<v Speaker 7>day we were out by plantation and it was so

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<v Speaker 7>moving just to be there, just to be having any

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<v Speaker 7>kind of tangible contact with the experiences that people had

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<v Speaker 7>in these places. And then you know, the cameras start

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<v Speaker 7>rolling and you start playing the scenes and you feel

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<v Speaker 7>that you feel supported. You know, I felt an ease,

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<v Speaker 7>I felt supported by what had happened in the places,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just felt supported by by the people, by

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<v Speaker 7>the people themselves, by the spirit of all of these people,

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<v Speaker 7>you know. And I think the Peter talked about the

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<v Speaker 7>same thing, that there was a sense of we're here

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<v Speaker 7>to tell a story. We're here to tell the story

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<v Speaker 7>of people, and from the perspective of people who've never

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<v Speaker 7>really been able to tell the story in this way.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Parker, see again, mister Barker, man received a letter

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<v Speaker 4>compiling many accusations.

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<v Speaker 10>You look me in the eye.

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<v Speaker 4>On your life, you answer me truthfully. Have you any

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<v Speaker 4>other name than Platt?

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<v Speaker 5>Solomon Northup is my name?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>That's all this it's official business, my nigga, my business,

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<v Speaker 4>your business, waits.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me if you're family, Platt, I have a wife,

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<v Speaker 5>two children.

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell are your children's name?

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<v Speaker 5>Margaret and Alonzo?

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<v Speaker 4>What's your wife's name before her married?

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<v Speaker 5>Annhampton? I am who I say? Where you going, Platt?

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<v Speaker 6>Go with the rose you need in a few with

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<v Speaker 6>my property, my author that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back here.

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<v Speaker 3>You come back here.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, you're going to hand him.

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<v Speaker 5>Monig he is mister Solomon North. You come here unfamiliar to.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, and no doubt Samana Solomon northon hell he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's more nigger, And I'll fuck you for as is

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<v Speaker 3>your right, as it will be my pleasure to bankrupt

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<v Speaker 3>you in the courts.

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<v Speaker 5>Your decision one hand him.

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<v Speaker 1>At the other end the final day of filming, how

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<v Speaker 1>were you able to shake Solomon off?

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<v Speaker 5>If you're able to it all?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I you know, one of the producers on the

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<v Speaker 7>film had an apartment in Dumbo in New York. So

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<v Speaker 7>basically I just needed somewhere to go, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I mean. After we finished filming, I couldn't go back home.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I couldn't go back to London immediately because

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<v Speaker 7>I just wasn't really in a state. You know, you

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<v Speaker 7>can't because you can't just sort of rejoin society sort

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<v Speaker 7>of straight away, and because it feels very weird, you're

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<v Speaker 7>only you're only going to be talking about where you've been,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the kind of the depth of the experience

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<v Speaker 7>that you've just had.

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<v Speaker 5>So so I stayed there actually for about three months.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>So I was in this place, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 7>I would and then I sort of slowly came out

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<v Speaker 7>of the experience and slowly started to see people and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and then sort of get back into back

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<v Speaker 7>into life.

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<v Speaker 5>So it took a little bit of time. Yeah, incredible,

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<v Speaker 5>Children of Men. Homeland Security Bill is ratified after eighty years.

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<v Speaker 5>British borders will remain closed, a deportation of illegal immigrants

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<v Speaker 5>will continue. Good Morning, our lead story.

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<v Speaker 10>The world was stunned today by the death of Diego Ricardo,

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<v Speaker 10>the youngest person on the planet. Baby Diego was stabbed

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<v Speaker 10>outside a bar in Buenos Aires after refusing to sign

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<v Speaker 10>an autograph.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie, Blade Runner wasn't like a massive, massive hit

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>when it came out, but it became it becomes Blade Runner.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what young men boxed office and

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<v Speaker 1>did when it came out. I remember saying it I

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<v Speaker 1>think okay, but yeah, but I feel like that film

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<v Speaker 1>is finding new audiences all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Yeah, do you feel that totally?

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<v Speaker 7>I think people are stunned and they see it, know

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<v Speaker 7>that they just you know, and what was what you know,

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<v Speaker 7>obviously Alfonso and and emmanuel Lebedski were able to achieve

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<v Speaker 7>in the film is I just can't think it's I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think it's ever been surpassed, you know, like, I

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<v Speaker 7>just think it's so extraordinary what was what was done

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<v Speaker 7>and how relevant and raw and honest it feels, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>as a piece of cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do they great films stay alive and they keep changing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a line that I wrote down when the

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrants come by, and Michael Kaye makes the point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they do their best to make the

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<v Speaker 1>best life of themselves and now the government are handing

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<v Speaker 1>them down like cockroaches. Yeah, and you look at what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening around the world at the moment, and that's as

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<v Speaker 1>relevant today as it was in two thousand and so for.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, it's and it's sort of become more and more

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<v Speaker 7>more and more relevant. You know that it's because it's

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<v Speaker 7>sort of prescient and it's sort of it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of it is terrifying, you know, how much closer we

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<v Speaker 7>get to these dystopia in realities, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, it's hard to judge when you're in the

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<v Speaker 7>middle of it all, you know, because you're sort of

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<v Speaker 7>looking around and you're like, well, this is all seems

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<v Speaker 7>pretty out of control. But you know, everybody's trying to

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<v Speaker 7>still live their lives, and you're like, but this wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>like this twenty years ago. Twenty years ago they were

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<v Speaker 7>warning about this, and here we are and we're still

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<v Speaker 7>trying to sort of make the best of it. But

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<v Speaker 7>at some point we've got to really reflect on the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that this has been a long time coming, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and we are in the midst of something that's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of strange right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, you shoots these long scenes. The opening scenes are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely stunning, but the one of the most famous one

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<v Speaker 1>is the ambush, Yeah, which you're involved with. What was

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<v Speaker 1>What are your memories of shooting that?

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<v Speaker 5>What's happened? What are you doing? Why did you do that?

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna get off the road to get in.

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<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm, Well I remember the car rig, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and and That was pretty wild, you know because just

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<v Speaker 7>I think there are there are YouTube videos now about

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<v Speaker 7>how that was achieved, you know, with Alfonso and she

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<v Speaker 7>were up above us, you know, in the in the

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<v Speaker 7>rig and then us in the car and my seat

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<v Speaker 7>on a hinge, you know, so that the camera could

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<v Speaker 7>pass over my head, and I remember it was just

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<v Speaker 7>it was such a dance to be able to say

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<v Speaker 7>a line, you know, and the intensity of the moment

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<v Speaker 7>and then go back on this hinge and lie there

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<v Speaker 7>as the camera goes over my face and then does

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<v Speaker 7>you know something else and then you come back as

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<v Speaker 7>the camera comes back to you and you're still in

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<v Speaker 7>the moment, you're still doing the thing, but you're having

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of dance do a choreography the camera. And

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<v Speaker 7>it was the only time really that I've experienced this

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<v Speaker 7>that the camera was a performer, you know, the camera

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<v Speaker 7>was a performer in the scene, and so the choreography

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<v Speaker 7>was with the camera, and it just meant for it

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<v Speaker 7>just made for a very kind of rich, emotional, you

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<v Speaker 7>know sequence, and then to watch it, you can't tear

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<v Speaker 7>your eyes away.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was brilliant. It was the egg. Was there

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<v Speaker 5>any practical you know, CG.

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<v Speaker 1>On effect with the egg going, because you would would

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<v Speaker 1>have had a front, right, I say to that, Yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that done in the moment? No, No, that's that's

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<v Speaker 5>yea yeah, no, no, that's a visual effect. Yeah, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 5>I think maybe they got it once or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a part of you when that's happening kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking, don't be the one who stuffs his take.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that is real.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, but that it wasn't in that scene because

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<v Speaker 7>I think because I think it's easier when it's a

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<v Speaker 7>bit more when it's a bit chaotic. You know, if

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<v Speaker 7>you're doing a long scene like that and a hundred

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<v Speaker 7>different things are happening, and then it comes to you

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<v Speaker 7>and you're in the middle of some very kind of

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<v Speaker 7>hectic moment, you know, you feel a bit more confident

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<v Speaker 7>about that. I think it's harder when you are doing

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<v Speaker 7>a scene that one hundred things are happening, it's very

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 7>long scene, and it comes to you and it's a

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<v Speaker 7>calm moment and you've just got to say a line

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<v Speaker 7>or move something.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that you feel the build of the pressure.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, you know, it seems sort of counterintuitive in a way,

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<v Speaker 7>but that was those were the moments and I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh wow.

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<v Speaker 11>That's that's tough and just quickly Kinky Bridge I love.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll watch again.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, Joel adgit and is a friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a big film for both of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I should think that was for Joel. Like Joel, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's one of his first big international films. You've

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<v Speaker 1>done love actually, but this is you, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the laid Laula would have come with its own you know, pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, as far as representing and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and what a beautiful film and that message of gives

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sorry, change your mind about someone?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's a beautiful message. Why did you stop? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I won't want you to walk into the factory and

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<v Speaker 5>feel that people didn't respect you.

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<v Speaker 6>Done.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't want anyone else to know what that feels like. Oh,

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<v Speaker 8>change your mind about someone?

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<v Speaker 5>I love that. I mean, I love that film. I

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<v Speaker 5>loved making it. I loved spending time with Joel.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he was that was when we first when

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<v Speaker 7>we first met, and we've been friends now for twenty

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<v Speaker 7>something years. And it's it's a beautiful film. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a beautiful film. It's a fantastic message. I love

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<v Speaker 7>the fact that it then went on to have a

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<v Speaker 7>life as a musical. Yeah, you know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 7>could never. I couldn't even imagine doing it as a musical,

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<v Speaker 7>like playing Lola as a musical because of the heels.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I just I just thought, I can't. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I would, I would break my neck in a day.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it was hard enough just doing the catwalk

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<v Speaker 5>in the film, you know, to try and dance properly,

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<v Speaker 5>dance in those heels. You know, you might as well

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 5>call the ambulance before the curtain goes up. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was. It was terrifying stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, we probably wrap up this film this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually my guests watches a classic movie they've never seen,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and then we talk about, oh yeah, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>classic movie that you are maybe slightly embarrassed that you

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't caught or you were pretty much.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. It's hard to say. I suppose there

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<v Speaker 7>must be. I mean, there's obviously millions of films that

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 7>I haven't seen, but the classic but it's sort of

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.719
<v Speaker 7>my mind is a blank. I tell you, I did

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 7>watch again, you know a film that I love, A

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 7>classic film that I love that. Not a lot of

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 7>people have.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I suppose people have seen Holiday? Do you

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<v Speaker 5>know the Filmy Grant?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I just watch that again the other day.

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<v Speaker 10>How does your garden girl case?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like wonderful where you are can be, but it

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't been well. I don't call what I've been doing living?

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<v Speaker 9>And what do you recommend for yourself, doctor Holliday?

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<v Speaker 5>As long as I need? You mean just to play?

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I'll be working since I was ten. I

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 6>want to find out why I'm working. The answer can't

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 6>be just to pay bills and to pile up more money.

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 6>Even if you do, the government's gonna take most of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, But what is the answer, Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I tend to find out.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>The world's changing out there. It's a lot of new

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 6>exciting ideas running around. Someone that might be writing, some

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 6>might be car guy, but they're affecting all our lives.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know how I stand, where I fit

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 6>into the picture. Well, it's all gonna mean to me.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't find that out sitting behind some desk in

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 6>an office. So since I get enough money together, I'm

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 6>gonna knock off for a while, QUI quit. I want

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 6>to say part of my life for myself. There's a

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 6>catch to it, though, It's gotta be part of the

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 6>young part, you know, Uh, retire young, workold, come back

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 6>and work when I know what I'm working for. Does

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 6>that make sense to you? You know?

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<v Speaker 7>I love that film and I love Carry Gronk, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because I feel like he's an actor that can do

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 7>He's an actor that did everything.

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, he could do drama, he could do comedy because.

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 7>He was always incredibly believable and he was one of

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 7>these people that you didn't need to know much about

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 7>the films. You just need to know that Carry Grant

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 7>was in it and you thought this is going to

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 7>be a good time, And that I think is a

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 7>real marker of you know that you want to hit

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 7>as an actor, where somebody just thinks that actually, just

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 7>by you being in the film, they're probably going to

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 7>be okay, you know. So so I think everybody should

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 7>check out Holiday if they haven't seen it, you know,

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 7>or haven't seen it recently, because again it's such a

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:35.959
<v Speaker 7>kind of beautiful classic film.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for joining us.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You're a class actor, so much fun to watch on

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>screen and pleasure to mention thank you.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 4>And you need to look behind, but I can keep

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 4>you here.

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<v Speaker 6>This side to make the.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a real treatwell Edgy four, so classy, so articulate,

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>so kind and personable, and it's it's what I hoped,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>as you always do, and I guess what I kind

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of expected, because when you watch Chitterwell on screen, he

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>does have this presence and this dignity, a classiness, whether

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it's playing a Lola in Kinky Boots or Solomon in

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Twelve Years of Slave or mister Wollaka in the Bridget

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Jones Mad for the Boy. Yeah, there's real there's real

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>dignity to him and a kindness. And that's exactly what

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I felt when chatting to him. Obviously he loves his films.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to go and watch both Holiday and

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Andre Ribley off, and I might go back and revisit

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Bicycle Thieves and do the right thing as well. It's

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>been a while since I've seen those films. But what

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<v Speaker 1>a classy guy. A I don't want to embarrass him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think his on screen is as close to

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Poitier as we have gotten there's there's a similarity

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<v Speaker 1>in the way they hold themselves. Denzel obviously is in

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation as well. But there's a real yeah dignity

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<v Speaker 1>in class that I always associate with Sidney Poitier that

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<v Speaker 1>I think Chiedewell A G four has as well. What

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<v Speaker 1>was funny actually is when I ask people to do

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<v Speaker 1>the intros, often people who come on that my yasni

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<v Speaker 1>are friends or people I've known and and they've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. Either they listen to it because they

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<v Speaker 1>like the podcast their movie fans, or they've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>it in anticipation for doing the podcast. And I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>through the intro and sometimes I've got to run through

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<v Speaker 1>it a few times. Sometimes there's a few bloopers if

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<v Speaker 1>you like, and it takes a little while. Cheerydell had

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<v Speaker 1>never heard the podcast before. I explained to him just

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly how we start the episode. He got it

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<v Speaker 1>one take. He's a professional. I think he's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good actor. I think that's probably all of this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for Universal for helping set that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Amy, a producer as well, for getting all the

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<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces together.

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<v Speaker 2>I will confirm through maybe social media. Who our next

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<v Speaker 2>guest is. There's a few aligning that now, which is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>So kick out of the movies, same in cinemas if

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<v Speaker 1>you can, and until then, bye

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<v Speaker 5>For now, And so we leave old Pete save fan

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<v Speaker 5>sout and to our friends of the radio audience, we've

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<v Speaker 5>been a pleasant good night.