1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Now we've been talking a lot about rugby league this morning, 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: following on from the news that the Paramatta Eels their 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: partnership is ending with the Northern Territory after twelve years. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: But one partnership that we know is continuing on and 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be an exciting twenty twenty five season, 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: is that with the Gold Coast Suns and the Melbourne 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Football Club set to play three high profile matches here 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: in Darwin and indeed in Alice Springs. Now the timing 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: of the Darwin games also coincides with Base in the Grass. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: It's going to mean that footy fans have got another 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: reason to come to the top end. And joining me 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: in the studio to tell us a little bit more 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: is afl NT chair Sean Bowden. Good morning to. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: You, Good morning Cody. It's good to be here. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, good to have you in the studio. Now talk 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: me through the games and when they're going to be 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: happening with the Suns. 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: All right, So the first game we've got, of course, 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: as you just said, they've got the Suns again, which 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: is terrific. Their Too Stadium has been referred to as 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: their fortress. So they're coming back to the fidd and 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: I haven't been beaten in six consecutive games, so that's 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: been good for them and good good for us, and 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: I think the AFL have been really thoughtful in how 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: they've put the drawer together. 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: It'll be the Suns versus the Bulldogs on the tenth 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: of May. 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: So Bulldogs finals team this year on the up, you 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: know Luky Beverage coaching and they're a really strong team 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: with support in in Darwin from their past relationships with 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: us up here. 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: So we've got the Sons and the Dogs. 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: Then we've got the Sons and the Hawks on the 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: fifteenth and major start Indigenous rounds so Doug Nichols Round. 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: And the Hawks are really up and about and their 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: team and their energy is fantastic. 37 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: So that's going to be a really big game. 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: I think that'll mirror the Sun's Geelong going from last year, 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: which was a ripper. 40 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah it went off. 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: People absolutely love it. 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: They yeah, no, it's good, it's good. The crowds, crowds 43 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: are strong, the energy is good. We've got that link 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: with base and the grasses. We've worked really hard with 45 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: major events and shout out to them. They've been fantastic 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: in supporting us. She's an a bishop previously, and now 47 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Trevor Cox is acting in the chair there and he's 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: got a son playing for Warratah, so he's invested. But 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: they're really professional at major events and they're doing a 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: great job. And we've got this really nice link with 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: Base in the Grass that produced some real dividends last year. 52 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: The numbers are really strong about people who came for 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: the foot and then stayed on for Base. 54 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so stayed for an extra few days or 55 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: whatever to go and be. 56 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Part of that too. 57 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some of the data says that people came 58 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: for the North game can't stayed for the Cats game 59 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: and then went to base as well. So that's good 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: for the territory and it's something to think about as 61 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: we think about Alice Springs as well, where the Demons 62 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: play the Saints, and that's another strong game and that 63 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: you might recall people recall that Gil McCadam out of 64 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: Alice Springs Saints player. Yeah, yep, Russell Jeffrey was a 65 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: Saints player, and we're hoping Nikki Windmar might come along 66 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: to that game. Another Saints player into the heart of 67 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: the nation in Alice Springs and it's good to think 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: about maybe how we might use that game to create 69 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: that second week or the week before and just give 70 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: Alice Springs a bit of a bit of shot in 71 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: the arm, a bit of a boost on it. It's 72 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: a great town, it's a great footy town, and people 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: get around the footy. 74 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: And when we have the footy events, they're just terrific. 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: So we love it. 76 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: They love it, and the hotels are full, and the 77 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: restaurants are full, and the communities are just just jumping 78 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: out of their skin. 79 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: So you know, that's something where we're. 80 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: Going to work on in the lead up to the 81 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: first of June in Alice Springs. And the more we 82 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: can do they're the better, I think, Cody, Well and. 83 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But you're a you grew 84 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: up or you lived in Alice Springs for quite some time. 85 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in littletown of Mount iSER, 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and you know that when when a big game, like 87 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: a football game comes to a town, you know, a 88 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: small regional town, it does so much in terms of 89 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: really boosting that town up and getting everybody out and 90 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: about and people really going and supporting the. 91 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Footy and for the young boys and girls, and the 92 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: women's participate, as we know, is just really really strong 93 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: in the church bit for both of them. You can't 94 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: be what you can't see. And bringing these teams and 95 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: these players and the support staff so that the people 96 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: of Alice Springs and the people of Darwin, the people 97 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: of territory can see what it takes and what it 98 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: is I think is really important and you get that 99 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: energy around it as a young person. I remember, I mean, 100 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: we're in Alice Springs and a few my brothers and myself, 101 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: we're fortunate to be in the footy world. 102 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: It was just terrific. 103 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: We didn't get AFL games back then, but we got some, 104 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: we got some special games. Essendon came and played the 105 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Aboriginal All Stars, and Richmond came and played practice matches 106 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: and these sort of things. 107 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: So that was terrific. 108 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: And you know that these are memories that I hold 109 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: that and I'm sure other people who of my generation 110 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: do that. Just keep you going and keep your loving 111 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: football and keep you loving the community. 112 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: One of the things I've really noticed, like with the 113 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: partnership with the Sons for example, and again you know, 114 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not an AFL expert. But one of the 115 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: things that I've noticed is that since we I've had 116 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: that partnership there does seem to be a lot of 117 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: young territory and sort of going up through the ranks 118 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: right with the Sons, both in the men's and women's league. 119 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: Correct, is that something. 120 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: That you know that you've really sort of tried to 121 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: forge with the partnership with the Suns. 122 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: We have and it's a really important pathway. We have 123 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: to keep working on our pathways so that we can 124 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: get the talent that is in the territory. 125 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: There's three standouts. We've got Taddy Anna. 126 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: Perry and the women's I think she's a good chance 127 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: to go on Wayland Davy and Ricky Ment the two 128 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: young men. Ricky's out of Alice Springs, so there's opportunities 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: there for them. We'll see what happens over the next 130 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: few days. But the Sons have just been terrific. And 131 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: Lloyd Johnson, who came out of Borrow Lawler. You follow 132 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: his career and see the energy around him after the 133 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: game last year with his family and the community with him, 134 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: it's just terrific. 135 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Credit to the Suns and we need to hear in 136 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: the territory. 137 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: We need to keep believing and keep supporting our young 138 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: talent and get him on those pathways. 139 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 140 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Look, I think it's really important to to do, and 141 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: it does seem as though there are plenty of pathways 142 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: for Territorians when it comes to when it comes to 143 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: their footy. Hey, before I let you go, Sean, just 144 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: a quick one. I know the week before last there 145 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: was a bit of controversy following the Pride Round and 146 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: what we saw was the Warretar Football Club, their women's side, 147 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: lose a sponsor after somebody sort of wasn't I guess 148 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: overly happy about that Pride Round. 149 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: When you delved a. 150 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Little bit more deeply, it got into some of the 151 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: concerns that people have got with trans people maybe playing 152 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: in different grades of footy. What did you make of 153 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: that whole situation, Because obviously Tars aren't the ones that 154 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: decide whether they have the Pride Round, but they certainly 155 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: you want to be part of it and support it. 156 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tars were really strong in their response 157 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: and really mature and how they responded. And the good 158 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: news is they've had a replacement sponsor come along, So 159 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean that's what footy is you lose some sponsors, 160 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: you gain some sponsors, so it's a melting pot footy, 161 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: and we've got to set the rules and make sure 162 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: everyone is safe and it's done properly. We think we're 163 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: doing that and we're doing it well, and you know, 164 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: it's great to see the foot he goes on and 165 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: the tars are going well, and we'll move on from 166 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: there and keep going into this terrific season. 167 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: What is the situation with transplayers when it comes to 168 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: like your Women's Premier League for example, can I ask? 169 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming that there's rules in place. 170 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: There are rules and guidelines and these are best bought 171 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: up privately with the league, so if there are issues, 172 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: that's the way to manage these and the AFL has 173 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: got a code that they manage and they're very hands 174 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: on with this from past experiences. So if there are issues, 175 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: I just encourage people to confidentially call the AFL into 176 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: and speak to someone there about it and raise the 177 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: issues and we're always open to having the discussion and 178 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: explaining that the details of the rules with it that 179 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: go around these things. And we want a strong, safe, 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: beautiful envine garment for people and that's what we're determined 181 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: to keep happening. 182 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, Shawn, we are going to have to leave it. 183 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: They really appreciate your time. Thank you for coming in 184 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: this morning, and no doubt we'll talk to you again 185 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: very soon. 186 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Thanks Catie, thank you. Pleasure