WEBVTT - THE TRAITORS PSYCHIC EXPLAINS THE WALK OUT 

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>Last top headline Welcome back to TV Reload. My name

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<v Speaker 1>Today on the podcast, I have Chloe from The Traders,

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<v Speaker 1>who well and truly left her mark on Channel ten's

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<v Speaker 1>latest dramatic reality TV show. Chloe is a clairvoyant, and

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<v Speaker 1>while her psychic ability left her fellow competitors a little skeptical,

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<v Speaker 1>we as an audience loved the dramatics and her time

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. If you are like me, you may

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<v Speaker 1>have been dying to see a psychic medium on a

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<v Speaker 1>format like this, and while she self evicted herself early,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to have seen more of her

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<v Speaker 1>time on the show. If you haven't been watching The Traders,

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<v Speaker 1>I suggest you jump on the train as it is

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<v Speaker 1>something new and quite fascinating to watch. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit like Pluto the board game, mixed with Wink Murder.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the psychology behind the decisions contestants are making

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<v Speaker 1>that makes this show one to watch. We will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about her abilities, if she cares what the skeptics say,

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<v Speaker 1>why she walked out, and if she regrets her decision

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<v Speaker 1>to leave. However, let's get started with today's guest. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to welcome Chloe from The Traders to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize I was so dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously on The Traders.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see what it would be like for

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<v Speaker 2>me in an environment like that. We now have to

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<v Speaker 2>be strategic. You have to think about every single thing

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<v Speaker 2>you say. I don't regret. I try not to regret

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<v Speaker 2>anything I do in life.

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<v Speaker 1>All fun and games until she paints one of us

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<v Speaker 1>as a trader.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's secretly why I didn't name in as a Trader,

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<v Speaker 2>because I want him to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Chloe, you need to leave now, or you're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to live.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can continue carrying every single

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<v Speaker 2>person's nerves throughout the entire show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Chloe, thank you for coming on and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Traders. I'm a little bit obsessed after watching the

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<v Speaker 1>first three episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello VN. I know I definitely dropped a few bombshells.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really appreciative of Channel ten taking a chance

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<v Speaker 1>on some new ideas, new to Australian audiences so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you nervous not really being familiar with this series

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<v Speaker 1>as it's not really like being on Australian Survivor or

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<v Speaker 1>a show that's been well and truly established.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, that never really crossed my mind. I

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<v Speaker 2>usually just go into things without really thinking twice and

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<v Speaker 2>just putting my best foot forward. But definitely now if

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<v Speaker 2>I think back one hundred percent, the show is so

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<v Speaker 2>unique and different, and I knew when they I applied

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<v Speaker 2>that because it was different, this was something that would say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>What made you want to apply? I mean, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you get cast on a show like this? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I saw the ad come up, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to put myself into an environment that

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<v Speaker 2>would test my abilities being a clairvoyant psychic side and

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<v Speaker 2>you really form great human intelligence and understanding, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see what it would be like for me

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<v Speaker 2>in an environment like that, it's totally new and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I definitely learned what it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel after watching those first three episodes?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm assuming you watched last night even though

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't there. How do you feel after watching those

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<v Speaker 1>first three episodes?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, there was a few emotions that came through. First shock,

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<v Speaker 2>then yes, I knew people were saying that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the last episode, I was just laughing. I could not

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<v Speaker 2>laughing at myself. I not so dramatic and I just

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<v Speaker 2>really went in with the drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a fair portrayal of your time on the show?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that kind of how it played out

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<v Speaker 1>while it was filming or were you watching it back

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<v Speaker 1>going Wow, they've really taken a sight of me that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you know, when you're on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much that goes on, and it's interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the perceptions of what people say about you and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not hearing them, and so seeing that on the

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<v Speaker 2>TV show it was rather interesting. It made it clarified

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<v Speaker 2>things for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that being a clairvoyant was something producers

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<v Speaker 1>were particularly interested and that's why they chose you to

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<v Speaker 1>take part in the series.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh one hundred percent. They loved it. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing readings left, right and center. It was they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it? The worst thing about having a psychic ability

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<v Speaker 1>is you get people all the time just off the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just all of a sudden asking you out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, what do you think about this? And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily know if that's the right format. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of need to get into your head, I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume. I mean, I've got friends that a psychic,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of getting ahead of myself here. But

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<v Speaker 1>isn't hard for when? Is it hard for you when

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<v Speaker 1>people put you on the spot like that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's not difficult. The spirits and I have

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<v Speaker 2>built up respect where if the spirits know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to come and ask me something, they're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>come in if I give them permission to Otherwise, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not bombarding me. And it's totally okay. I completely understand

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<v Speaker 2>why people want to ask. I want them to ask

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<v Speaker 2>because it teaches them something that it may potentially heal

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<v Speaker 2>something that needs to be healed, or the spirit gets healing.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you speak up, you're more likely to receive knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can have a beautiful understanding of who you

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<v Speaker 2>are as a person. So I am all for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Always ask you know, I've been to a psychic. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to a couple of them, and they've got so

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<v Speaker 1>many things right that has blown my mind. They predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that I would win Big Brother when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, before I even was officially accepted to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, so it's very like wow. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to go back to Australia, take part in

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<v Speaker 1>a national competition and you're going to win. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like what, And then the fact that it came

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<v Speaker 1>out was really quite strange. But then every psychic I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen has also said they think I have an

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<v Speaker 1>ability that I haven't tapped.

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<v Speaker 2>Into, and that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, while i've been talking to you, I've been burping,

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<v Speaker 1>and so apparently one of my friends, who was a psychic,

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that that kind of reaction could be in

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<v Speaker 1>line with having an ability myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I've ever heard that I do burp, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a sign there's someone else in the room

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard birthing. I think things can have multiple meanings.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard birthing can be releasing, so energetic releasing something

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<v Speaker 2>groups someone saying something to your energetic releasing the response.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe you're a more EmPATH, show more empathy in

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<v Speaker 2>your body than you realize. But do you meditate?

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<v Speaker 1>No? But I feel like I should.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key, That's how you've got to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a year when I was twenty three meditating

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<v Speaker 2>nearly every single night, going into deep trance, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I came out of that year learning and understanding how

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<v Speaker 2>my mind worked, the thoughts, the images that appeared, the voices.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you can give yourself that year, you'll come

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<v Speaker 2>out communicating and it's a whole new world. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the light side. Then come in, come and join us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by people with psychic ability. When did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you had disability? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I used to watch Allison Dubois the TV show

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger. I was obsessed. She was solving

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<v Speaker 2>crimes using the spirits, and I just inside of me

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<v Speaker 2>knew that that was something that I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>and was going to do. Then I kind of grew up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, teenage years and it wasn't until I moved

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<v Speaker 2>to Queensland that I just fell into meditation. I just

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<v Speaker 2>it became a part of me. I never questioned it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never questioned the deep trans that I went into,

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<v Speaker 2>the messages that I was getting. And then I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that year I always saw this red dot in my

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<v Speaker 2>meditation and I reached it, and as I reached, this

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful white light filled my mind and my body. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the next day I walked out and I had

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<v Speaker 2>my first encounter with a spirit and a person, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I knew that that broke me into that frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was roughly twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Do you think that your ability would help you

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<v Speaker 1>or hinder you on a show like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah? Well, I definitely think it hindered me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but this is not what you expect though, right, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have thought going on this show that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to know certain things that it's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>me progress. But then it did look like it hindered you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you unpack that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? You can take it two ways. One I required

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<v Speaker 2>this knowledge, but secondly, because I had this ability, the

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<v Speaker 2>tactics of the other people were to assume make everyone

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<v Speaker 2>assume that I was wrong. So I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they strategized to who I am and my

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<v Speaker 2>profession was in fact what got me really out of

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<v Speaker 2>why I wanted to leave. And I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>I had gone in just as myself, without them having

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<v Speaker 2>the knowledge of this, and then keeping all of this

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<v Speaker 2>abilities to myself, probably would have done a brilliant job.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to show people that stand in your

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<v Speaker 2>power be unique.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was a lot of nosayers within the competitors

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<v Speaker 1>about your predictions, but this is not an accurate depiction

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<v Speaker 1>of how everyday people may treat you. I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>they find out that you are a psychic, Because I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine if I walked into a room of ten

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<v Speaker 1>people and I said I was a psychic, I reckon,

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<v Speaker 1>I get not eight or nine people that would be

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<v Speaker 1>already very skeptical, and two people would be on board.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of feel like, is this an accurate

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<v Speaker 1>depiction of how people are in real life when they

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<v Speaker 1>hear that you have psychic abilities?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Ben, I would love to answer this

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<v Speaker 2>question and say, no, it's not an accurate depiction, but sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>it one hundred percent is an accurate depiction of society

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<v Speaker 2>and what medium psychics go through whenever they put themselves

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<v Speaker 2>into a social environment. But it really teaches you to

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<v Speaker 2>have thick skin and to stand in your power. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the truth, you witness it every day in your reading.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always come back to that point. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I really learned that that from this show. Have thick

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<v Speaker 2>skin and let everyone have their own beliefs and world views.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you just need to go Google and

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<v Speaker 2>see the evidence. It's right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you get some stuff wrong on the show, though,

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<v Speaker 1>from what we saw, how do you explain that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine that that would happen in your everyday life,

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<v Speaker 1>as if this is your profession or just the way

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<v Speaker 1>in which you use this power. You know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen all the time. So you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you explain that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So the two are you talking about the two

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<v Speaker 2>Traders being wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just talking about sometimes when you get things wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you've sat down with someone and you've told them

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<v Speaker 1>these are the predictions, these are the emotions, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the feelings that you feel are accurate, and you tell

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<v Speaker 1>them and then when it doesn't work out, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>people will come over to you and say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of said this and it didn't happen. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in that I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever know that didn't really happen. That was the story

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<v Speaker 2>of what the players wanted everyone to believe as a

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<v Speaker 2>way to get me out. I did get wrong the

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<v Speaker 2>Two Traders. That was more personal Traders, and that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>from the spirit. Well, that was something that I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to look through body language and verbal communication. But yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I will one hundredcent say there's definitely times that I

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<v Speaker 2>get things wrong or I interpret the messages wrong. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important with the person that you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting with. If they say no, we say, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>break it down because there's something I'm missing and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you can help me because you understand your life more

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<v Speaker 2>so it's always good to go back over the know

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<v Speaker 2>then leave it as a no.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm always fascinated by that because I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>always think, you know, for people out there that don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily believe in a psychic they just think that person

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<v Speaker 1>reads people really well, that person's highly empathetic, or they

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<v Speaker 1>can pick up the nuances in a way in which

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<v Speaker 1>someone's you know, performing in front of them or reacting

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them, that allows you to dive a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit deeper. Look, we're going off on a tangent here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much twine, There's so much to one package, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask, though, why did you dramatically get

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<v Speaker 1>up and leave?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Oh my gosh, I didn't realize I was

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<v Speaker 2>so dramatic. I've really learned a little bit about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember sitting in the banishment and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really ever get nervous. So I was sitting there and

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<v Speaker 2>my whole body was riddled with nerves, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>remember thinking, these aren't my own. I'm not feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been like this. Why am I carrying everyone's nerves?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can continue carrying every single

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<v Speaker 2>person's nerves throughout the entire show. Really showed me how

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<v Speaker 2>much energy I take on and being consuming say twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two people's nervous energy is a lot for my body

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<v Speaker 2>to handle. So it was definitely a learning curve. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>should have got some crystals out or something to protect me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the producers had taken away your crystals at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Yeah, well, I mean you quickly said four

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<v Speaker 1>names and then walked out, and now you've watched it

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<v Speaker 1>back on television. Do you regret that decision?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't regret. I try not to regret anything

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<v Speaker 2>I do in life because it just causes you too

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<v Speaker 2>much head noise. You let it go, you move on.

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<v Speaker 2>If I need to compartmentalize, I do, And now I

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<v Speaker 2>just laugh. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very glad that you have a sense of humor

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<v Speaker 1>about it as well. I mean I thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>some of the I mean you are brilliant casting on

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show, and the dramatics that you probably look

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<v Speaker 1>at going oh, I don't know. That's what made you

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<v Speaker 1>good television. That's what made us, you know, engage.

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<v Speaker 2>So it definitely did it? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You so funny? I love it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you What do you think though? Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to win? Do you have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind? From using your ability? Have you got

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<v Speaker 1>any idea? What's your prediction? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like from like self assessment of everyone, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Nigel probably has the best chance at winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is incredibly smart. I hope that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>My fingers across. I am backing him all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's secretly why I didn't name him as a Trader,

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<v Speaker 2>because I want him to win, Nigel, I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it into the universe, you know. And they're also

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<v Speaker 1>winning bars of silver, you know, they're winning the money back.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how much money is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>left up for grabs at the end of the competition?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have no idea. I hope that they get

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<v Speaker 2>as much money as they can, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the best person who needs it wins it.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that I ask everyone who joins this podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>what is something from behind the scenes, something that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that we won't see, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes secret from your time on the Traders.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say when I was sitting in my room

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<v Speaker 2>and I was able to do my tarot cards, I

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<v Speaker 2>really loved that time that I could connect to myself

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<v Speaker 2>and and just the beautiful energy in the universe and

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<v Speaker 2>try and work. I think that was the funnest part

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<v Speaker 2>strategizing alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the beginning or the end of television? Few?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you'd like to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Ben this is the beginning. What do you mean, Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>You need your own shows. You can pack people's lives

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<v Speaker 1>and help them. Look, I'm on board. I'm on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a burb in agreeance.

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<v Speaker 1>The psychic ability my psychic ability of burping has said, yes, Chloe,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the beginning. Beautiful Chloe, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for so horrendous. Thank you so much for talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me today. You know, watching the first few episodes

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to Channel ten, they were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to want to talk to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these contestants. I was like, oh, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I saw you, I just knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I have to talk to Chloe. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk for about this show. So you're reading, well, anytime, anytime, anywhere, girlfriend, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down do it. Amazing. Well, thanks and thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>thank the guys there at Channel ten Emily for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. The podcast will be up in

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<v Speaker 1>the next three days. But well, how do I follow you?

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<v Speaker 1>How do people who are listening to this follow you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Absolutely so. I have an Instagram account. It's medium

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<v Speaker 2>dot Coco Blanche and that's coeo Ko and you can

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<v Speaker 2>see on my readings. Through there, you can look through there,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see my life. And yeah, keep following me.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have to have a look.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm in your audience, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, I shall be in your mind soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're already there, alridy, thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for your time. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful. Thank you, Ben, see you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Take Clode, good luck with it.