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Speaker 1: Last top headline Welcome back to TV Reload. My name
Speaker 1: is Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast I go behind
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Speaker 1: Today on the podcast, I have Chloe from The Traders,
Speaker 1: who well and truly left her mark on Channel ten's
Speaker 1: latest dramatic reality TV show. Chloe is a clairvoyant, and
Speaker 1: while her psychic ability left her fellow competitors a little skeptical,
Speaker 1: we as an audience loved the dramatics and her time
Speaker 1: on the show. If you are like me, you may
Speaker 1: have been dying to see a psychic medium on a
Speaker 1: format like this, and while she self evicted herself early,
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen more of her
Speaker 1: time on the show. If you haven't been watching The Traders,
Speaker 1: I suggest you jump on the train as it is
Speaker 1: something new and quite fascinating to watch. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit like Pluto the board game, mixed with Wink Murder.
Speaker 1: But it's the psychology behind the decisions contestants are making
Speaker 1: that makes this show one to watch. We will talk
Speaker 1: about her abilities, if she cares what the skeptics say,
Speaker 1: why she walked out, and if she regrets her decision
Speaker 1: to leave. However, let's get started with today's guest. I'd
Speaker 1: like to welcome Chloe from The Traders to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I was so dramatic.
Speaker 1: Previously on The Traders.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see what it would be like for
Speaker 2: me in an environment like that. We now have to
Speaker 2: be strategic. You have to think about every single thing
Speaker 2: you say. I don't regret. I try not to regret
Speaker 2: anything I do in life.
Speaker 1: All fun and games until she paints one of us
Speaker 1: as a trader.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's secretly why I didn't name in as a Trader,
Speaker 2: because I want him to win.
Speaker 1: Chloe, you need to leave now, or you're coming to
Speaker 1: I would like to live.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can continue carrying every single
Speaker 2: person's nerves throughout the entire show.
Speaker 1: Hi, Chloe, thank you for coming on and talking about
Speaker 1: the Traders. I'm a little bit obsessed after watching the
Speaker 1: first three episodes.
Speaker 2: Hello VN. I know I definitely dropped a few bombshells.
Speaker 1: I've been really appreciative of Channel ten taking a chance
Speaker 1: on some new ideas, new to Australian audiences so to speak.
Speaker 1: Were you nervous not really being familiar with this series
Speaker 1: as it's not really like being on Australian Survivor or
Speaker 1: a show that's been well and truly established.
Speaker 2: To be honest, that never really crossed my mind. I
Speaker 2: usually just go into things without really thinking twice and
Speaker 2: just putting my best foot forward. But definitely now if
Speaker 2: I think back one hundred percent, the show is so
Speaker 2: unique and different, and I knew when they I applied
Speaker 2: that because it was different, this was something that would say, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this.
Speaker 1: What made you want to apply? I mean, how did
Speaker 1: you get cast on a show like this? Yes?
Speaker 2: So when I saw the ad come up, I knew
Speaker 2: that I wanted to put myself into an environment that
Speaker 2: would test my abilities being a clairvoyant psychic side and
Speaker 2: you really form great human intelligence and understanding, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to see what it would be like for me
Speaker 2: in an environment like that, it's totally new and yeah,
Speaker 2: so I definitely learned what it was like.
Speaker 1: How do you feel after watching those first three episodes?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming you watched last night even though
Speaker 1: you weren't there. How do you feel after watching those
Speaker 1: first three episodes?
Speaker 2: Ah, there was a few emotions that came through. First shock,
Speaker 2: then yes, I knew people were saying that, and then
Speaker 2: the last episode, I was just laughing. I could not
Speaker 2: laughing at myself. I not so dramatic and I just
Speaker 2: really went in with the drama.
Speaker 1: Was it a fair portrayal of your time on the show?
Speaker 1: I mean, is that kind of how it played out
Speaker 1: while it was filming or were you watching it back
Speaker 1: going Wow, they've really taken a sight of me that
Speaker 1: I didn't expect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, when you're on the show,
Speaker 2: there's so much that goes on, and it's interesting to
Speaker 2: see the perceptions of what people say about you and
Speaker 2: you're not hearing them, and so seeing that on the
Speaker 2: TV show it was rather interesting. It made it clarified
Speaker 2: things for me.
Speaker 1: Do you think that being a clairvoyant was something producers
Speaker 1: were particularly interested and that's why they chose you to
Speaker 1: take part in the series.
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. They loved it. So I was
Speaker 2: doing readings left, right and center. It was they couldn't
Speaker 2: get enough.
Speaker 1: Isn't it? The worst thing about having a psychic ability
Speaker 1: is you get people all the time just off the
Speaker 1: you know, just all of a sudden asking you out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, what do you think about this? And I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know if that's the right format. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of need to get into your head, I
Speaker 1: would assume. I mean, I've got friends that a psychic,
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of getting ahead of myself here. But
Speaker 1: isn't hard for when? Is it hard for you when
Speaker 1: people put you on the spot like that?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not difficult. The spirits and I have
Speaker 2: built up respect where if the spirits know if you're
Speaker 2: going to come and ask me something, they're ready to
Speaker 2: come in if I give them permission to Otherwise, they're
Speaker 2: not bombarding me. And it's totally okay. I completely understand
Speaker 2: why people want to ask. I want them to ask
Speaker 2: because it teaches them something that it may potentially heal
Speaker 2: something that needs to be healed, or the spirit gets healing.
Speaker 2: So if you speak up, you're more likely to receive knowledge,
Speaker 2: and I can have a beautiful understanding of who you
Speaker 2: are as a person. So I am all for it.
Speaker 1: Always ask you know, I've been to a psychic. I've
Speaker 1: been to a couple of them, and they've got so
Speaker 1: many things right that has blown my mind. They predicted
Speaker 1: that I would win Big Brother when I was in
Speaker 1: New York, before I even was officially accepted to be
Speaker 1: on the show, so it's very like wow. They were like,
Speaker 1: You're going to go back to Australia, take part in
Speaker 1: a national competition and you're going to win. And I
Speaker 1: was like what, And then the fact that it came
Speaker 1: out was really quite strange. But then every psychic I've
Speaker 1: ever seen has also said they think I have an
Speaker 1: ability that I haven't tapped.
Speaker 2: Into, and that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, while i've been talking to you, I've been burping,
Speaker 1: and so apparently one of my friends, who was a psychic,
Speaker 1: was saying that that kind of reaction could be in
Speaker 1: line with having an ability myself.
Speaker 2: I can't say I've ever heard that I do burp, but.
Speaker 1: Is that a sign there's someone else in the room
Speaker 1: or I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard birthing. I think things can have multiple meanings.
Speaker 2: I've heard birthing can be releasing, so energetic releasing something
Speaker 2: groups someone saying something to your energetic releasing the response.
Speaker 2: So maybe you're a more EmPATH, show more empathy in
Speaker 2: your body than you realize. But do you meditate?
Speaker 1: No? But I feel like I should.
Speaker 2: That's the key, That's how you've got to get in.
Speaker 2: I spent a year when I was twenty three meditating
Speaker 2: nearly every single night, going into deep trance, and then
Speaker 2: I came out of that year learning and understanding how
Speaker 2: my mind worked, the thoughts, the images that appeared, the voices.
Speaker 2: So if you can give yourself that year, you'll come
Speaker 2: out communicating and it's a whole new world. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the light side. Then come in, come and join us.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by people with psychic ability. When did you
Speaker 1: know that you had disability? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I used to watch Allison Dubois the TV show
Speaker 2: when I was younger. I was obsessed. She was solving
Speaker 2: crimes using the spirits, and I just inside of me
Speaker 2: knew that that was something that I wanted to do
Speaker 2: and was going to do. Then I kind of grew up,
Speaker 2: you know, teenage years and it wasn't until I moved
Speaker 2: to Queensland that I just fell into meditation. I just
Speaker 2: it became a part of me. I never questioned it.
Speaker 2: I never questioned the deep trans that I went into,
Speaker 2: the messages that I was getting. And then I remember
Speaker 2: that year I always saw this red dot in my
Speaker 2: meditation and I reached it, and as I reached, this
Speaker 2: beautiful white light filled my mind and my body. And
Speaker 2: then the next day I walked out and I had
Speaker 2: my first encounter with a spirit and a person, and
Speaker 2: so I knew that that broke me into that frequency.
Speaker 2: So I was roughly twenty three.
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you think that your ability would help you
Speaker 1: or hinder you on a show like this?
Speaker 2: Ah? Well, I definitely think it hindered me.
Speaker 1: I know, but this is not what you expect though, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have thought going on this show that I'm
Speaker 1: going to know certain things that it's going to help
Speaker 1: me progress. But then it did look like it hindered you.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you unpack that?
Speaker 2: Well? You can take it two ways. One I required
Speaker 2: this knowledge, but secondly, because I had this ability, the
Speaker 2: tactics of the other people were to assume make everyone
Speaker 2: assume that I was wrong. So I think that the
Speaker 2: way that they strategized to who I am and my
Speaker 2: profession was in fact what got me really out of
Speaker 2: why I wanted to leave. And I think that if
Speaker 2: I had gone in just as myself, without them having
Speaker 2: the knowledge of this, and then keeping all of this
Speaker 2: abilities to myself, probably would have done a brilliant job.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to show people that stand in your
Speaker 2: power be unique.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a lot of nosayers within the competitors
Speaker 1: about your predictions, but this is not an accurate depiction
Speaker 1: of how everyday people may treat you. I mean when
Speaker 1: they find out that you are a psychic, Because I
Speaker 1: can imagine if I walked into a room of ten
Speaker 1: people and I said I was a psychic, I reckon,
Speaker 1: I get not eight or nine people that would be
Speaker 1: already very skeptical, and two people would be on board.
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like, is this an accurate
Speaker 1: depiction of how people are in real life when they
Speaker 1: hear that you have psychic abilities?
Speaker 2: You know what, Ben, I would love to answer this
Speaker 2: question and say, no, it's not an accurate depiction, but sadly,
Speaker 2: it one hundred percent is an accurate depiction of society
Speaker 2: and what medium psychics go through whenever they put themselves
Speaker 2: into a social environment. But it really teaches you to
Speaker 2: have thick skin and to stand in your power. You
Speaker 2: know the truth, you witness it every day in your reading.
Speaker 2: So I always come back to that point. I think
Speaker 2: I really learned that that from this show. Have thick
Speaker 2: skin and let everyone have their own beliefs and world views.
Speaker 2: And I know you just need to go Google and
Speaker 2: see the evidence. It's right there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you get some stuff wrong on the show, though,
Speaker 1: from what we saw, how do you explain that? Because
Speaker 1: I imagine that that would happen in your everyday life,
Speaker 1: as if this is your profession or just the way
Speaker 1: in which you use this power. You know, I guess
Speaker 1: that would happen all the time. So you know, how
Speaker 1: do you explain that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So the two are you talking about the two
Speaker 2: Traders being wrong?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just talking about sometimes when you get things wrong,
Speaker 1: Like you've sat down with someone and you've told them
Speaker 1: these are the predictions, these are the emotions, these are
Speaker 1: the feelings that you feel are accurate, and you tell
Speaker 1: them and then when it doesn't work out, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: people will come over to you and say, hey, you
Speaker 1: kind of said this and it didn't happen. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm interested in that I don't.
Speaker 2: Ever know that didn't really happen. That was the story
Speaker 2: of what the players wanted everyone to believe as a
Speaker 2: way to get me out. I did get wrong the
Speaker 2: Two Traders. That was more personal Traders, and that wasn't
Speaker 2: from the spirit. Well, that was something that I tried
Speaker 2: to look through body language and verbal communication. But yeah, look,
Speaker 2: I will one hundredcent say there's definitely times that I
Speaker 2: get things wrong or I interpret the messages wrong. So
Speaker 2: I think it's really important with the person that you're
Speaker 2: sitting with. If they say no, we say, okay, let's
Speaker 2: break it down because there's something I'm missing and maybe
Speaker 2: you can help me because you understand your life more
Speaker 2: so it's always good to go back over the know
Speaker 2: then leave it as a no.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm always fascinated by that because I mean I
Speaker 1: always think, you know, for people out there that don't
Speaker 1: necessarily believe in a psychic they just think that person
Speaker 1: reads people really well, that person's highly empathetic, or they
Speaker 1: can pick up the nuances in a way in which
Speaker 1: someone's you know, performing in front of them or reacting
Speaker 1: in front of them, that allows you to dive a
Speaker 1: little bit deeper. Look, we're going off on a tangent here.
Speaker 1: There's so much twine, There's so much to one package, right.
Speaker 1: I have to ask, though, why did you dramatically get
Speaker 1: up and leave?
Speaker 2: I know, Oh my gosh, I didn't realize I was
Speaker 2: so dramatic. I've really learned a little bit about myself.
Speaker 2: But I remember sitting in the banishment and I don't
Speaker 2: really ever get nervous. So I was sitting there and
Speaker 2: my whole body was riddled with nerves, and I just
Speaker 2: remember thinking, these aren't my own. I'm not feeling like
Speaker 2: I've never been like this. Why am I carrying everyone's nerves?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can continue carrying every single
Speaker 2: person's nerves throughout the entire show. Really showed me how
Speaker 2: much energy I take on and being consuming say twenty
Speaker 2: two people's nervous energy is a lot for my body
Speaker 2: to handle. So it was definitely a learning curve. Maybe
Speaker 2: should have got some crystals out or something to protect me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the producers had taken away your crystals at
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, well, I mean you quickly said four
Speaker 1: names and then walked out, and now you've watched it
Speaker 1: back on television. Do you regret that decision?
Speaker 2: No, I don't regret. I try not to regret anything
Speaker 2: I do in life because it just causes you too
Speaker 2: much head noise. You let it go, you move on.
Speaker 2: If I need to compartmentalize, I do, And now I
Speaker 2: just laugh. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I'm very glad that you have a sense of humor
Speaker 1: about it as well. I mean I thought you were
Speaker 1: some of the I mean you are brilliant casting on
Speaker 1: a reality show, and the dramatics that you probably look
Speaker 1: at going oh, I don't know. That's what made you
Speaker 1: good television. That's what made us, you know, engage.
Speaker 2: So it definitely did it? Definitely?
Speaker 1: Did you do?
Speaker 2: You so funny? I love it?
Speaker 1: Do you What do you think though? Who do you
Speaker 1: think is going to win? Do you have an idea
Speaker 1: in your mind? From using your ability? Have you got
Speaker 1: any idea? What's your prediction? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I feel like from like self assessment of everyone, I
Speaker 2: feel like Nigel probably has the best chance at winning.
Speaker 2: I think he is incredibly smart. I hope that he does.
Speaker 2: My fingers across. I am backing him all the way.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's secretly why I didn't name him as a Trader,
Speaker 2: because I want him to win, Nigel, I want you
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 1: Put it into the universe, you know. And they're also
Speaker 1: winning bars of silver, you know, they're winning the money back.
Speaker 1: Do you know how much money is going to be
Speaker 1: left up for grabs at the end of the competition?
Speaker 2: No, I have no idea. I hope that they get
Speaker 2: as much money as they can, and I hope that
Speaker 2: the you know, the best person who needs it wins it.
Speaker 1: Something that I ask everyone who joins this podcast is
Speaker 1: what is something from behind the scenes, something that we
Speaker 1: didn't see that we won't see, kind of like a
Speaker 1: behind the scenes secret from your time on the Traders.
Speaker 2: I would say when I was sitting in my room
Speaker 2: and I was able to do my tarot cards, I
Speaker 2: really loved that time that I could connect to myself
Speaker 2: and and just the beautiful energy in the universe and
Speaker 2: try and work. I think that was the funnest part
Speaker 2: strategizing alone.
Speaker 1: Is this the beginning or the end of television? Few?
Speaker 1: Do you think you'd like to do?
Speaker 2: Ben this is the beginning. What do you mean, Come on.
Speaker 1: You need your own shows. You can pack people's lives
Speaker 1: and help them. Look, I'm on board. I'm on board.
Speaker 2: Was that a burb in agreeance.
Speaker 1: The psychic ability my psychic ability of burping has said, yes, Chloe,
Speaker 1: this is just the beginning. Beautiful Chloe, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for so horrendous. Thank you so much for talking
Speaker 1: to me today. You know, watching the first few episodes
Speaker 1: and talking to Channel ten, they were like, you know,
Speaker 1: are you going to want to talk to some of
Speaker 1: these contestants. I was like, oh, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw you, I just knew it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to talk to Chloe. I
Speaker 1: have to talk for about this show. So you're reading, well, anytime, anytime, anywhere, girlfriend, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down do it. Amazing. Well, thanks and thanks to
Speaker 1: thank the guys there at Channel ten Emily for your time.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. The podcast will be up in
Speaker 1: the next three days. But well, how do I follow you?
Speaker 1: How do people who are listening to this follow you?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely so. I have an Instagram account. It's medium
Speaker 2: dot Coco Blanche and that's coeo Ko and you can
Speaker 2: see on my readings. Through there, you can look through there,
Speaker 2: you can see my life. And yeah, keep following me.
Speaker 2: You'll have to have a look.
Speaker 1: Well I'm in your audience, yes.
Speaker 2: Friend, I shall be in your mind soon.
Speaker 1: I think you're already there, alridy, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your time. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Thank you, Ben, see you later.
Speaker 1: Take Clode, good luck with it.