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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, some great news on the weekend with

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Speaker 1: on the line right now is the Chief Minister of

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, Natasha Files.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to your chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listener.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into it, chief Minister, some pretty well,

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Speaker 1: pretty ingenious and some real territory innovation. I think you'd

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Speaker 1: it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Get more territory in than an electric land cruiser breaking

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Speaker 3: two records underwater and coming out with some barre in

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Speaker 2: Katie, it really doesn't. It was quite a sight to behold.

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Speaker 1: And you know the interesting thing, a massive event, no

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Speaker 1: government sort of assistance, no counsel assistance. We're just talking

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Speaker 1: about territorians getting out there and getting it done. Katie.

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Speaker 3: It was supported to activate Darwin, but I think absolutely

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Speaker 3: them a little longer, but well done. What an achievement

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Now, Chief Finister, moving along and in what

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Speaker 1: common sense has prevailed in Parliament after public pressure has

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Speaker 1: forced the Public Accounts Committee to determine that a vote

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Speaker 1: petition Justice for Declan Lavity Action against Crime in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Now nearly twenty six thousand people have now

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Speaker 1: signed that petition and after being unable to get an

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Speaker 1: last Thursday, Well, we know that those that sit on

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Speaker 1: the Public Accounts Committee voted to bring Samara Lavity's petition

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Speaker 1: it comes to crime, Chief Minister, are you glad that

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Speaker 1: the Public Accounts Committee voted this way?

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, just before I respond to your question again,

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Speaker 3: young Jaclan Lavity, and there was a number of elements

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Speaker 1: Well, last time we spoke, you did outline those plans

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Speaker 1: so since last week, more than ten thousand additional people

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Speaker 1: have signed that petition calling for you to make further changes.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the traction or read the comments on

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Speaker 3: Yes, Katie, and and we hear the frustrations in the

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Speaker 1: Well, the last time a petition gained this kind of traction,

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Speaker 1: We know it was eventually sold under the COLP, but

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Speaker 1: Are you going to listen to what they're telling you

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Speaker 2: You can't ignore that, Katie.

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Speaker 3: We are and we will continue to listen. Yes, is

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Speaker 1: I mean many people though listening and thinking to themselves, well,

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, as I said, we have listened. We've made

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Speaker 1: So sitting down with those experts, or sitting down with

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Speaker 3: Katie, of course, will always listen to those people that

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Speaker 3: have been victims and impacted by crime. There's processes through

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Speaker 2: Reason you should invite her in for a meeting.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Katie, I mean, I don't particularly want to speak

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand that you are obviously listening to those experts,

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Speaker 2: How are you going to juggle.

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Speaker 1: Their expectations when they're clearly not in line with what

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Speaker 1: But since you made that announcement and I'm probably sounding

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Speaker 3: I understand the petition calls on a number of measures reforms.

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Speaker 1: Going to come of this debate around that petition in parliament.

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, that's part of our parliamentary process where petitions

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Speaker 1: All right now, Not only did the Public Accounts Committee

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Speaker 1: Why do you think this hasn't happened sooner?

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Speaker 3: The Katie committees and the committee structure is a matter

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Speaker 1: So you guys have got the majority. You guys have

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Speaker 3: Each committe there's been committees that have been changed the

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Speaker 1: Okay, over the weekend, there's still quite an enormous amount

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt though this issue with crime, and this

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Speaker 3: We know our challenges and that's why there's more police

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Speaker 1: What else can we expect in terms of what you

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, the Territory Government, along with the Dull and

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Speaker 1: Part of that is well is being able to get

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Speaker 2: Has this happened and where are things at, so Katie.

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Speaker 3: Since we announced the package working with the Airport Development

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Speaker 3: Group twenty million dollars to attract more flight, there has

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Speaker 3: been meetings. It is commercial and confidence, but that's exactly

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Speaker 3: why we announced that package, to get more flight, more

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Speaker 3: opportunities for territories and visitors to come to the territory

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Speaker 3: and equally, you know, to be able to visit family

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Speaker 3: and friends into state.

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Speaker 1: He did say that, you know that red tape and

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy would be the thing that held them back.

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Speaker 2: Has there been much discussion about.

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Speaker 3: That, so Katie, we've put this attraction fund in place.

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Speaker 3: We truly want to see accessible and affordable air services.

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Speaker 3: It's a key priority for us and that's why we're

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Speaker 3: not only at the negotiating table, but we've put some

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Speaker 3: serious dollars to get those airlines into the territory.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, we'll leave it there for this morning. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time.

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Speaker 2: As always, take care