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Speaker 1: Put on your dance and shits, give me your best

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Speaker 1: shops it is.

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Speaker 2: That's entertainment. Emma Dillespie is here. Hello, good morning friends.

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Speaker 2: How we're going.

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Speaker 1: We're very well. We're talking about something. I saw the

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Speaker 1: title nepo babies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, neo baby babies now like a premature baby.

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Speaker 3: Yet we're not talking about neonatal care. We're talking about

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Speaker 3: nepotism babies. So this is a term that's even up

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Speaker 3: for mc quarry Dictionaries Term of the Year, and basically

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Speaker 3: it speaks to this idea that you know, for as

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Speaker 3: long as there have been celebrity couples, there have also

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Speaker 3: been celebrity kids and oftentimes they will enter into the

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Speaker 3: entertainment biers following the footsteps of their parents. But the

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Speaker 3: reason nepo babies is a term that's really floating around

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Speaker 3: a lot at the moment is because they've had enough

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Speaker 3: and they're speaking out against having to deal with the

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Speaker 3: pressures and privilege that come with being nepo babies.

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Speaker 1: What's some examples of neppo babies at the moment.

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Speaker 3: So some of the most famous ones the Kardashi the

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Speaker 3: entire Kardashian clan.

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Speaker 2: For Glynn Beckham that probably.

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Speaker 3: Original NEPO baby would be like Eliza Minelli, you know,

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Speaker 3: way back.

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Speaker 2: But it's all kicked off because Lily.

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Speaker 3: Rose Depp, who is the daughter of Johnny Depp and

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Speaker 3: Vanessa Parody, she has done an interview with Elle magazine

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Speaker 3: saying that.

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Speaker 2: She's sick of it. She doesn't want to be called it.

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Speaker 3: She said, it's weird to reduce somebody to the idea

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Speaker 3: that they're only there because it's generational. It doesn't make

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Speaker 3: any sense if somebody's mum or dad is a doctor

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Speaker 3: and then the kid becomes a doctor, You're not going

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Speaker 3: to be like, well, you're only a doctor because your

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Speaker 3: parent is a doctor.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I went to medical school and trained.

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Speaker 2: So she's sick of it.

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Speaker 4: And also she wasn't any good. That's different. You know,

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Speaker 4: you can get that opportunity, but if you're no good,

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Speaker 4: you don't stick around.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair that, you know, once your foot's

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Speaker 3: in the door, it's up to you to show them

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Speaker 3: what you've got. But you have to acknowledge that getting

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Speaker 3: your foot in the door in the first place, that

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Speaker 3: there's you know, miles and miles of talented people behind

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Speaker 3: you who will just never get to that spot because

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Speaker 3: they don't know.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? But what if you are a

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Speaker 1: child of famous active parents, So it's all you ever

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Speaker 1: want to do. Should you not be given that opportunity

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Speaker 1: because you know you'll be judged for it. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a double edged sword, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a bit of extra responsibility on them

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Speaker 3: to just show that self awareness and have that humility,

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Speaker 3: but also you've got to be good.

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Speaker 2: And I think the reason people.

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Speaker 3: Have jumped on Lily Rose's dep is she's done a

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Speaker 3: couple of movies, but she's not that interesting. One of

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Speaker 3: my friends, an entertainment writer, described her as having the

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Speaker 3: screen presence of a wet blanket, so that gives you

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Speaker 3: a bit of a sense she's a model, though she's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: She's a Chanelle ambassador. But Lily Collins as well, who's

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Speaker 3: the daughter of Phil Collins, has also spoken out in

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Speaker 3: the wake of Lily Rose's DEPP to defend her, saying

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Speaker 3: that you know, she's sick of people questioning if she

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Speaker 3: has a free pass and that she's proud of her dad,

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Speaker 3: but she wants to break through. So I think it

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Speaker 3: comes down to this sort of talent meets opportunity or

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Speaker 3: talent beats opportunity kind of litmus test. So, I you

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Speaker 3: famous and a little bit talented, but you've got all

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Speaker 3: this opportunity and you're not doing enough with it? Or

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Speaker 3: is your talent so profound that we're willing to kind

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Speaker 3: of look past the fact that you're a nepo baby,

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Speaker 3: like I think either Kate Hudson or a Ben still

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Speaker 3: A maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you look at the Douglas family, Michael Douglas,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Douglas.

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Speaker 2: Yep, there's another one in there is a Douglas Douglas,

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Speaker 2: Douglas Dougs.

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Speaker 1: They're at Bow or is it. The other family is

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Speaker 1: the Bridges family.

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Speaker 2: Bridges, and then there was the Baldwin family Stephen Boord.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Baldwin next generation are all very nepo baby.

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Speaker 2: Are they good too? They acting?

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Speaker 3: Are? They're very attractive. But one of them is married

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Speaker 3: to Justin Bieber. Yes, that's right, Yeah, she's nepo baby.

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Speaker 2: She's defended them. Just that's just good breeding, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where do you draw the line? That's fair enough?

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Speaker 4: I saw that Brooklyn Beckham got a bit of heat saying,

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Speaker 4: oh no, he's going to be a chef, the Paul Barker.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's a great chef because the manager he is

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Speaker 4: Johnny ice Pipe and he just sat there and got

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Speaker 4: on the ice all day, and then we'd be judging

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Speaker 4: him for that.

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Speaker 1: At least he's got a job.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I didn't know what we're going to

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Speaker 2: to ice.

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Speaker 3: I just think if you're going to be an EPO baby,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to follow in the footsteps of the

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Speaker 3: family business, you've just got to be good at it,

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Speaker 3: and you've really got to have that humility.

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Speaker 2: I think that's all people want, really.

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Speaker 3: If our kids, if my kids wanted to do this,

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Speaker 3: I'd be so proud of the experienced.

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Speaker 4: My youngest son, this would be his dream job. He

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Speaker 4: wants to work in the media. For him to have

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Speaker 4: a radio show, he would absolutely love it. And I

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Speaker 4: feel sorry. He's got all the talent in the world.

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Speaker 4: And but I mean, I'm the last of the dinosaurs.

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Speaker 4: This isn't how you make your way anymore, having it

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Speaker 4: like you've got to do all these other things. So

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Speaker 4: in no way can I help him in what.

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Speaker 2: You should do? A show called mother and Son, You

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Speaker 2: and Jack, I've.

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Speaker 1: Heart that's coming back.

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Speaker 4: And I know it is coming back, but you wonder

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Speaker 4: do you hinder or does it help?

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Speaker 2: I don't know until another time. Thank you, Emma, Thank

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Speaker 2: you my friend.

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Speaker 3: You will catch em mcglesi, Gilestie mom and me a

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Speaker 3: we'll catch you next Monday