1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Now, unfortunately art in Palmerston issues continue around crime and 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: alcohol fueled violence. So I know that there's been growing 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: complaints in Gray and it's prompted the Member for Drysdale, 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Clinton Howe, to formally approach the NT Liquor Commission. Last week, 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: he confirmed on social media that the Independent Liquor Commission 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: has formally received the community's request for a review of 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: the Gray liquor license and he's been invited to speak 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: directly with the Commission as part of that process. Now 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: joining me on the line is the COLP Member for Drysdale, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Clinton how Good morning. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Clinton, Good morning Katie. How you doing. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, Good to have you on the show. Now, 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: tell me what are some of the issues that are 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: being experienced in Gray at the moment. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, We've got quite a few issues happening in Gray. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of alcohol fueled violence, a lot 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: of violence in general. We've got youth crime and a 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: lot of public drunkenness as well, which we see throughout 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: the suburbs and locals have just had enough and we've 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: had enough for quite a long time. This is we've 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: got a real legacy issue here and it ties into 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: there's quite a few factors that are leading into this. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Alcohol is obviously a big driver, which is why I've 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: written to the Liquor Commission. But the other thing we 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: deal with is Gray. In my eyes, is kind of 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: an example of how policy, poor policy can really damage 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: a community long term and wet. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Why what do you mean? 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: So we carry about we carry over seventy percent of 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: public housing in the electric of in my electricive Drivesdale, 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: and we've got a super density in the Gray area 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: and also in southern driver as well. And so we 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: have this super dense housing, we've got long term problem 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: tenancies which are causing massive disruption to the community. Couple 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: that with ease of access to alcohol and we have 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: kind of the perfect storm. And there's also with that 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: super density of housing, we then get a lot of 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: visitors to the electorate. So in the elector to drives 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: day you would have at any given time easily probably 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: over one thousand visitors that have come in from communities 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: who are staying in there as well. And that with 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: then the alcohol, we just get massive problems. And so 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: I've been very clear from day one, you know, it's 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: kind of it's why I put my hand up to run. 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: You know, I don't apologize for the mess I've inherited, 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: but I'm here to fix it. 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: So what are the next steps? From your perspective? I mean, 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: by the sounds of it, the alcohol issue is a 49 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: huge one. Are locals calling for that license to be reviewed? 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: Do they want it gotten rid of? 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been caused. There's calls for that, and as 52 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: I put in my submission, there's also calls for it 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: not to be removed. And so I've presented both sides 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: of the argument. What I've asked for the commission is 55 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: to go and investigate. I want to know pretty much. 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: I want an independent process to look at and give 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: us the facts and some recommendations as well as to 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: I need to know where the liquor is coming from. 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: What is our main supply, because there's no point getting 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: rid of a liquor license, but then only to find 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: out ninety percent of the liquors coming in from other areas. 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: So the Liquor Commission, I'm hoping, is just to deliver 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: us some facts and facts for everyone in the community 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: as well, and that gives us a starting point. But 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: that's only one aspect of it. The other aspect is 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: the housing situation, and I've been very clear. I've said 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: in Parliament that you know, we need to do a 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: sell off. There needs to be a sell down at 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: the density because we've just created a ghetto and some 70 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: of the old some of the old flat style just 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: needs to be removed. I said in parliament this year 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: it'll be a good day for Gray when I reckon 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: ball goes through sin City and if everyone in Green 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: knows which flats that is, and it's just it's just 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: a place of suffering. 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: And mate, I reckon, we'll like we always get listeners 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: contact us who live out that way who tell us 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 1: of you know, the different things going on out there. 79 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: So I mean that's longer term of course, trying to 80 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: make some changes to public housing. And like you said, 81 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: that high density. I mean that's been a push for 82 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: quite some time to get rid of that high density 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: public housing and we've seen it in different locations. I mean, 84 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: we've still got a massive block of public housing here 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: in the city that causes issues. We know out in 86 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Palmerston that's the case too, So I do reckon that's 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: something that needs to be further looked into. In terms 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: of this issue. Though with the license. What's the process 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: now and can locals living in your electorate still sort 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: of have their say on this process? Are you going 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: to be speaking with the commission? 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely? So, I believe it's the twenty seventh of May. 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: I will speak personally with the Commission and I'll give 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: them kind of more detail as to what the community 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: is looking for. They will then go to if they decide, 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: so it's an independent process. If they take on the inquiry, 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: they will then go to public hearings in which everyone 98 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: and anyone in the community can have their say. And 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 2: that's a really important aspect and I'll make sure that's 100 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: publicized and spread throughout the community so they can all 101 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 2: have their say. 102 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: Well, make sure your message us and let us know 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: when that is happening, Clinton, because I know that people 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: are be keen to make sure that they can have 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: their say on that one. 106 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also you know, it's difficult for everyone. 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: This is behind that life is also a family business 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: who you know are doing their best as well, and 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: so there's you know the idea of this is to 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: get answers and to clean up Gray. You know, I 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: have a vision for Grey, Katie, and it's got everything. 112 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Gray has everything a great suburb needs. We've got big, 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: beautiful blocks, beautiful open parks, grade school. And it's social. 114 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: It's social issues that are that have created this and 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: that's what I'm here to fix. 116 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it has to be fixed. I mean, I 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: don't live out in Palmerston, but I was driving around 118 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: that area a couple of weeks ago, about three o'clock 119 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: in the afternoon to get my son to soccer, and 120 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: they're like, it was like the public intoxication was just 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: so evident, and I thought to myself, Gee, if you 122 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: had a house it was just there, you'd be you'd 123 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: be seriously struggling with having to deal with that on 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: a daily basis. 125 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: It's the the suffering flows onto everybody. Yes, And as 126 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: you said, like the people that live there, we now 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: people that want to leave that house. Prices have been 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: so crossed by the social behavior, and so I know 129 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: by fixing all these things, you know, I've got to 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: systematically go through it, and that's what we're doing. So 131 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: with the violence, we've implemented the tough laws and it's 132 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: quite simple. We'll find a bed. Forew if you're committing 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: violent crime, you know, we've done the Law and Order 134 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: package one point three four billion. We've also committed to 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: sixteen million more for mental health services at the hospital 136 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: and the housing reforms. I'm working very closely with Minister Edgington, 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: along with I will say, Brian who's got Karama and 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: Matt out in Blaine, because we also our electorates stuff 139 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: a similar things. And so those housing reform package, which 140 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: we'll deliver later in the year is going to be 141 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: very targeted a problem tenants. And the idea of this 142 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: is to if you're causing problems in your public housing tendency, 143 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: will replease you with someone who's going to look after 144 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: it and look after the community. 145 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, and Clinton, we are going to have to wrap up, mate, 146 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very 147 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: much for joining us on the show, and we will 148 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: talk to you again as well. We'll find out a 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: little bit more, I mean, keep us up to date 150 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: if you can about what goes on with the Liquor 151 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Commission and those those discussions that you have. 152 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: I will thanks Betty, thank you very 153 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Much, appreciate your time.