WEBVTT - Froomes’ Crazy Response To Guy Who Slid In Her DM’s

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kida.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the podcast. Everybody you're with Flexi and Fumina.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got this book here with me. Our producer Brook

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<v Speaker 3>keeps hanging extreme shit on me for wearing this outfit.

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<v Speaker 4>No is no, I can't even interpreting it. It's a compliment.

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<v Speaker 4>If someone says you look like a sexy librarian, that

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<v Speaker 4>means you are a vision of fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are nodding in the space. My

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<v Speaker 2>grandma was a librarian. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>AnyWho apple doesn't fall far from the true. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you a fact from this book, a fresh one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Why did women.

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<v Speaker 3>Shave their heads in ancient Egypt? You told me it

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<v Speaker 3>was a sign of feminine beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I feel like I need to get give me

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<v Speaker 4>some more, give me like a Do you think I

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<v Speaker 4>would look beautiful with a shaved head?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hinting at something? Have you ever shaved your head?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>If I have the head shaped for it, I've got

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<v Speaker 4>the face for it.

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<v Speaker 5>No out about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not out about it? Have you You've had it really short?

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<v Speaker 2>You've shared my head multiple times? Made you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah feeling. I want to be free.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the look of it esthetically on women. But

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<v Speaker 3>the longer that I get, the more I just would

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<v Speaker 3>never want to do it again. It's funny that it's

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<v Speaker 3>like Stockholm syndrome of short hair.

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<v Speaker 4>Reminds me of when I was on that reality show

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<v Speaker 4>that won't be named and I jumped off this seven

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<v Speaker 4>meter pole. On the first time, I did it fine.

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<v Speaker 4>The second time, I was like, never again.

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<v Speaker 2>You jumped off a seven meter pole? Yeah? Like was

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<v Speaker 2>the pole perpendicular?

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<v Speaker 4>It was like imagine a ladder with a very baby

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<v Speaker 4>platform that was like twenty centimeters seven meters into what

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<v Speaker 4>into the air? But like where did you know this harness?

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<v Speaker 4>But it was like a harness that like carries you

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<v Speaker 4>like a bungee. It just like it's like a one

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<v Speaker 4>and a half second drop. Never again fell.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk about a guy that DMed me a nag, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and how we responded.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never liked being negged. I've never responded to it. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people losers who do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I put a high price on my head, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you can't afford it, I can tell.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the price, what's the bare minimum you expect from

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<v Speaker 4>someone trying to like push to you, move to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It varies, but mostly plans. Give me plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, no open ended plans. You're saying we should catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a date.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, If you don't give me a date, then I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just going to assume that you don't want to and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only going to ask you one more time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>My tolerance is really low, Like I need a plan,

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<v Speaker 4>I need consistency, I need reliability, I need humor, I

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<v Speaker 4>need all of it. Because everyone can be on the fringe.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're really gonna like permeate, penetrate this outer layer,

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<v Speaker 4>then at least come through with something like of value.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be buddy buddies. If you're a

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<v Speaker 4>bum friend, I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about friends or dating or anything else. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a friend in order to date me.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I don't agree with that, So we're gonna leave

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<v Speaker 3>it at that. Enjoy the podcast, and yeah, leave you

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<v Speaker 3>on a cliffhanger here, FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Cada.

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<v Speaker 4>We find two things important, giving people unsolicited love, advice,

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<v Speaker 4>making fun of each other, and what comes in at

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<v Speaker 4>close second, but is ultimately a third is generating ways

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<v Speaker 4>to become rich. I'm probably gonna stop you there, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't make fun of you, not a nuss, And

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<v Speaker 4>that's a opportunity because I give you, I give you

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<v Speaker 4>the material to work.

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<v Speaker 2>With I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just nice. Don't let anything go, call it all out.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is content continued ol a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it was last week. Time is a myth we

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<v Speaker 4>discussed Belle Delphine, the twitch streamer adult content creator who

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<v Speaker 4>sold her bathworder for millions of dollars, inspired us.

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<v Speaker 2>We might do the same, we might not.

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<v Speaker 4>Time will only tell, And since then I've been on

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<v Speaker 4>a quest to find other potentially absurd ways to make

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<v Speaker 4>a quick buck. What I found out recently is there

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<v Speaker 4>is a thing called domain squatting. I've known about it

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<v Speaker 4>for a little while, I hadn't known where it originated from.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically, domain squatters are people who register potential domain

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<v Speaker 4>URLs and buy it for really low So for example,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody might buy the domain for TikTok dot com when

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<v Speaker 4>it's getting really popular, assuming it hasn't been bought yet,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe there's an underground rapper who's come to SoundCloud,

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<v Speaker 4>same buy their domain. Imagine buying Kanye West dot com

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<v Speaker 4>before Kanye did, Because what ends up happening is that

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<v Speaker 4>the person who rightfully so should own that domain is

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<v Speaker 4>going to want to buy it off you. What happened

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<v Speaker 4>in two thousand and eight, Well, in nineteen ninety four, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>the I was born. This guy called Chris Clark bought

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<v Speaker 4>the domain pizza dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Very simple, new to the Internet. See what it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like by domain? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Then in two thousand and eight, so what's that? Fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>years later he sold that domain name for two point

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<v Speaker 4>six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, could you imagine I, for one, do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a domain squatter myself. It's one thing you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about me.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>When I started making conversation card games with my business

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<v Speaker 4>flex Factory and evere Press, I was like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody has the domain name for conversation cards dot com,

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<v Speaker 4>Conversation cards dot com dot are you how to have

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<v Speaker 4>a conversation dot com?

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<v Speaker 2>I bought it.

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<v Speaker 4>All and I redirected it to my business. I also

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<v Speaker 4>made an Instagram page for sun Kiss. It used to

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<v Speaker 4>be my favorite orange soda in hopes that when they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted an Instagram presence, they would buy from me. So

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<v Speaker 4>you got sun Kissed Yeah, all sun kissed AU Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>a localized version.

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<v Speaker 2>Does anyone really shout for that? Not yet?

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<v Speaker 4>But I also don't know the password to that account.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the email I made with it. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just have it and it is mine. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's also calmer because contrary to what you might think,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't own at Flexmamy on Instagram. Some mother bro

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<v Speaker 4>does and it's rightfully his.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd love to know who he is. Maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 3>interview one day and we'll get my frooms tuos. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>got him in battle head to head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's fight them, hurt them, hex them. We can

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<v Speaker 4>do it well, no violence, We don't control violence theoretically,

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<v Speaker 4>figuratively annihilate them. Flex and it's Flex on Kit And

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<v Speaker 4>this week we are making dreams come true. I swear

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<v Speaker 4>to you we surprise Rooms my special co hosts one

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<v Speaker 4>of her favorite people in the whole white world, Gavin Rubin.

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<v Speaker 4>Scene from Lux Listing Sydney. We had in the studio

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<v Speaker 4>and when I tell you she squealed was.

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<v Speaker 2>In hysterics, huffing, puffing. It was really quite beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was chemistry all round, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>you want to pay attention and stay tuned so you

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<v Speaker 4>can hear exactly how it went down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, this is phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week threw me over here, probably gave us a

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<v Speaker 4>fifty minute monologue about how obsessed she is. Not just

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<v Speaker 4>lux listening. So it's not even about that, it's about you.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>She is freaking I actually am.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I don't even get nerves. I forgot what it's

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<v Speaker 5>like to be nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that I said that we both love Simon

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<v Speaker 3>and Gavin flex big fans appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm probably more of a Gavin.

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<v Speaker 5>You better not have said you prefer Simon.

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<v Speaker 6>I would never say that she's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wish we had the tape, Peter play it back?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we no?

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<v Speaker 3>When I finished the first season, I was lining up

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the rooftop, my first ever time. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a fish out of water and I was lining up,

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<v Speaker 3>and who did I see walking out of the venue.

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Gavin Rubinstein flunked by a bevy of women, and

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<v Speaker 3>other hanger honers of course, and he's getting out and

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<v Speaker 3>getting into a Bentley and I screamed.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, Gavin, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you really?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Something came over me. I've never done it before.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to be one of the most composed people

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever met in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>If there was anyone who would choose.

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<v Speaker 4>Professionalism tacked grace over being a bansheet, it is this

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<v Speaker 4>woman on this show Flex and Rooms. I would describe

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<v Speaker 4>us both as like professional friends you Simon and Dealen.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the relationship there?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a weird dynamic.

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<v Speaker 6>So like Deleene and I have no real friendship all

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<v Speaker 6>and that's true percent on a professional level. If we crossover,

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<v Speaker 6>we cross over, But we don't have much of a

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<v Speaker 6>professional relationship either. Simon and I have a good working relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got a good friendship. We don't always see eye

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<v Speaker 6>to eye. You've got to remember he's kind of representing

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<v Speaker 6>the buyer. I'm representing the seller. He's trying to buy low.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to sell high.

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<v Speaker 2>In Enemies Love Story, I know about love story, Yang.

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<v Speaker 4>These are direct quotes I'm getting from Gavin's math Mortal Enemies.

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<v Speaker 3>Love this last week, I opened my letterbox. I live

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<v Speaker 3>in Bondo Beach and what I got was a little

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<v Speaker 3>letter from TRG. You guys canvassed the area and put

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<v Speaker 3>a letter into my letterbox saying we have a buyer

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<v Speaker 3>that urgently needs to buy a two bedroom apartment in

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<v Speaker 3>Bondi in this exact location. I actually message you on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram and you liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to play something for you. We're getting

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<v Speaker 4>too far into home buying territory.

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<v Speaker 3>This is simply a short message for young Gavin. Big

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<v Speaker 3>fan of your work and would love to have you over.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the apartment is not mine to sell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's roughly one million dollars more expensive than I can

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<v Speaker 3>afford right now, but I'm happy to show you around.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing about miss Lucinda Firm's price her real name,

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<v Speaker 4>is that she will always take a bit too far. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>while we're here, I want to say thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>extending your time to us.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a pleasure, and even.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it if I have a full day. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>stopping for anyone. However, while you're here, a few rapid

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<v Speaker 2>fire questions. I want to get to know you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever used a property you were selling for

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<v Speaker 4>anything other than work purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't incriminate yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>But if it's a yeah, okay, that's all we need.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool Who do you think is dirtier people that sell

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<v Speaker 3>houses or people that sell cars?

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<v Speaker 5>Depends?

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<v Speaker 6>They're both pretty much on the same level, right, you know? Really,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the perception of used car salesmen and real

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<v Speaker 6>estate agents from a society perspective is they're pretty even.

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<v Speaker 6>I do what I can to change that perspective. One

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<v Speaker 6>guy is not going to change. I know there are

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of other good agents who do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Three Yeah, there's three or four out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got one last question? Do you have one?

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<v Speaker 4>You go and I'll see probably the most important question

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<v Speaker 4>I've asked as I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>What it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Burple far not at all, Banks, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm using this time properly. I'm planning for the future.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, just what were the kitchen?

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<v Speaker 3>Was there?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought i'd just answer it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, would you rather be the first or last person

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<v Speaker 4>to know about a zombie apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 5>And what? I want to be the first because I

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<v Speaker 5>want to plan.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you planning for?

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<v Speaker 5>Escape?

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<v Speaker 6>We're going I'll find a way, I'll find a place,

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<v Speaker 6>got resources, use them.

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<v Speaker 5>There's always a way. There's always a way. Man is overrun,

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<v Speaker 5>there is always a way.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you so much for coming on. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like this is probably the best I've ever done, and

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Take full credit for it.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Brooks this one, Thanks brook Shout out

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<v Speaker 4>to you Gavin for coming through and humoring us.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, and thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You for making rooms. I'd say at least for the

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<v Speaker 4>next three months you can really write.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal. Who's going to believe you? You

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<v Speaker 2>met the Gavin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 4>It is my duty to get at least a million

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<v Speaker 4>people interested in reading books more frequently than they already do.

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<v Speaker 4>As an avid reader of mostly vampires, smut, and self

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<v Speaker 4>development books your own room, including my own, yes, best

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<v Speaker 4>selling author that is me, I find it most favorable

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<v Speaker 4>to share the books I read, because even if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't end up reading it, you have some of the

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge and that might push you further down. Books are fantastic,

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<v Speaker 4>very underrated, so many, so much good stuff in them, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you think the internet came from? Babe.

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<v Speaker 3>A book, it's like breaking a hymen. Until you do it,

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<v Speaker 3>you are never going to see what's inside. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>a book is to me. It hurts when you first

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<v Speaker 3>start reading me, like how could does ever be good?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you break it and there's a whole other inside.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna take it back.

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<v Speaker 4>You are so much I think you need a time out.

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<v Speaker 4>Mostly corner corner, Yeah, just enough. The book I've been

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<v Speaker 4>reading is called Attached by Emir Levine and Rachel sf Hell.

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<v Speaker 4>The self development girlies are reading it, definitely, The Don't

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<v Speaker 4>Want to Be gas Lit by My Next Partner people

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<v Speaker 4>are reading it. The I've Broken one too many hearts

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<v Speaker 4>people are dabbling into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It essentially talks.

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<v Speaker 4>About attachment theory, which is the relationships between humans, how

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<v Speaker 4>humans speak to each other, deal with each other, perceive

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<v Speaker 4>each other. It's actually quite great, but the most important

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<v Speaker 4>core tenet in the book talks about how young kids

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<v Speaker 4>need to develop a relationship with at least one primary

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<v Speaker 4>caretaker for them to be well rounded people. So the

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<v Speaker 4>book talks about how the way we were raised and

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<v Speaker 4>our relationship to our primary caregiver, how that affects how

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<v Speaker 4>we attach to people in our adulthood. So there are

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<v Speaker 4>three ish attachment styles, secure avoidant, anxious, anxious avoidant, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of these types have kind of a clear approach

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<v Speaker 4>to how they deal with other people. For example, securely

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<v Speaker 4>attached people is what we all want to be, the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of people who can give and receive love freely,

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<v Speaker 4>who don't hold grudges, who can express what they want

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<v Speaker 4>when they want, who can set boundaries, who can be forgiving.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all really great and dandy. We're all orbiting

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<v Speaker 4>between anxious avoidant and somewhere in between. So as I

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<v Speaker 4>was reading this book, I said, you know what's coming

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<v Speaker 4>to mind. We're doing telepathy ah our relationship. No, I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to see what you say. Do you know

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<v Speaker 4>what your attachment style is, let's say, in dating.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, Actually, I think because I've seen a psychologist

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<v Speaker 3>for this her come on therapy girls seeing a therapist,

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, she sent me all the different types

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<v Speaker 3>and she told me you're anxious avoidant and she goes,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the hardest one to change.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went, cool, I'm gonna stop you there. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done your bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, essentially anxious avoidant. And she said to me

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much point blank, you need to get a partner.

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<v Speaker 3>You need said you need to have a boyfriend. And

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<v Speaker 3>at the time I left and called Mum and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what, why would she say that? She agreed?

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<v Speaker 3>But then a month later I got a boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 3>it actually unlocked something in me because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>very secure relationship until oh and this is where the

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<v Speaker 3>anxial avoidant comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this turning into a thriller with a relationships that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 3>It's to the year mark. Yeah, and suddenly I'm y

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<v Speaker 3>eating out of the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm eighteen month or two eighteen year. It gets

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<v Speaker 2>to a point and then I have to leave immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is? What's yours? What do you feel?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you were giving me a lot of agreeance there, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but what if I was just trying to mirror you

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<v Speaker 4>for your own safety and comfort.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's quite a vulnerable conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>That's giving anxious I think. Okay, So what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think I am? From what you've gathered?

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<v Speaker 3>From what I've gathered, I could say, hand on heart,

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<v Speaker 3>knowingly I put money on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Avoidance avoidance stand up, know your community, you know your people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think avoidance are the most sensible people of the

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch despite secure why because.

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<v Speaker 2>Avoidance it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>You come into this world on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to flex and frooms ONITA.

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<v Speaker 3>So last week I received a DM. Somebody slid in,

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<v Speaker 3>cheeky one, a cheeky DM from a man. Yes, very presumptuous,

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<v Speaker 3>but he slid in saying, oh, just give you a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of context.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't know who he was, but I clicked

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<v Speaker 3>on his profile because his little avatar was like quite attractive.

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<v Speaker 3>And it turns out that he is an ex survivor stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I've never watched the show, okay, but like we

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<v Speaker 4>get it. We get to watch the viver to know.

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<v Speaker 3>So he slides into my DMS saying, you're funny at times.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's worse than I thought. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>I thought?

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<v Speaker 4>You said you're kind of funny sometimes you're funny at times?

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pissed off. I'm feeling anger

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<v Speaker 2>in my loins at this.

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<v Speaker 4>Because now I want the I don't want the feedback,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, what's not clicking?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like what didn't hit, what didn't land? Which

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<v Speaker 2>bit fell fell dry?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the Shrek content. Is it a bit too weird?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we going more for the skits like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Need and also funny compared to what? What's your humor,

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<v Speaker 4>mister stranger, aside from what he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Come in with?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you feel about a cheeky DM slide? I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I don't respond well to compliments coming from

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<v Speaker 4>straight men because I worry about their taste sometimes. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know, like there's that meme that says that

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<v Speaker 4>if you ever give your opinion on the Internet and

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of straight guys agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>You, you've given the wrong one. You've given the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the correct one. You gotta read them, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what it feels like sometimes, And of course there

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<v Speaker 4>are exceptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my approach to getting dms can't say it's ever worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we'll say the ego boost, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop appreciated, keep sliding in because it could be your

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<v Speaker 4>turn next.

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<v Speaker 3>In this instance, let's call him James. We've decided that

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<v Speaker 3>there's only one way to reply to this slid in.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you're funny at times. Yeah, it's jog behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have suggested that we send him Barks.

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<v Speaker 4>A voice memory of us barking at him. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>is as sensical as.

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<v Speaker 2>What he said. All right, should I go first? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gona give him two tracks? Two tracks?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, any tips?

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<v Speaker 2>Just go with your heart.

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<v Speaker 7>Wait, go with your god baby? Yeah, yeah, right, not

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<v Speaker 7>too much.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to back yourself, babe. Okay, hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, earth O, Nah again it sounds let me do.

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<v Speaker 8>It all right, center, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna give.

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<v Speaker 3>Him ns, so carry on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 4>This is literally the grown up equivalent of sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>a circle at lunchtime in year eleven and getting all

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<v Speaker 4>your friends to co sign the text you send the

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<v Speaker 4>guy who literally wouldn't care if you lived or died,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, do I do one emoji? Two emojis? He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you exist? Okay, well we'll tune in. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you an update next week. You are you lost it?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what's gonna be really funny if he

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<v Speaker 4>turned out to be like such a nice guy and

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<v Speaker 4>we've gotten like the context wrong, like he said it

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<v Speaker 4>in like the most loving way possible, and we're like,

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<v Speaker 4>kill he's a dog. Let's back at him, and then

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<v Speaker 4>he comes up with something really earnest and genuine, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you fall in love and get married. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that's gonna happen either way. I'm happy with my contribution.

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<v Speaker 4>You did drop the ball. That's okay, Flick and I

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<v Speaker 4>make a conscious effort to orbit into spaces virtually that

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<v Speaker 4>are meant for men, like bro podcasts, bro tiktoks, bro

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<v Speaker 4>reddit forums. I'm just so curious as to what men

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<v Speaker 4>speak about. We need to do a series where we

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<v Speaker 4>ask men what's in their notes app because.

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<v Speaker 2>I, for one, so intrigued. I want to know. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw this TikTok the other day of this men's podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>They were doing an imagination exercise. They said, let's say

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<v Speaker 4>you're driving to a location with your mom and your girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>Who gets the front seat your mom or your girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what I said, that is complex. That

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<v Speaker 4>is ten points for the bros, because like, what are

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<v Speaker 4>you expecting? You are on a date with your boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 4>your boyfriend's mom, it's time to drive. What are you

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<v Speaker 4>doing instinctively? Oh, I'm judging your answer. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to sit in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Dah dah. But but yeah. When I'm sitting in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>A second, I'm thinking Oedipus complex. I'm thinking, do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to date your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just in the front?

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm in the back, but why is she

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<v Speaker 4>in the front?

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<v Speaker 2>Just say it? Just say it?

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<v Speaker 4>And then so what I found to be the most

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<v Speaker 4>fascinating is like watching these three guys argue about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>One guy's point was, you know, at one stage your

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<v Speaker 4>mum would have been the most important woman in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>That stage has passed when you get a girlfriend. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know this is how men thought. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>it was that regimented, like I have girlfriend, girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Priority, mum no priority.

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<v Speaker 4>But then another guy was saying, well, my girlfriend should

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<v Speaker 4>know her place, and that's below my mom, beneath my

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<v Speaker 4>mom either way, And I was like, WHOA. The way

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<v Speaker 4>I see it, I get that from the perspective of

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<v Speaker 4>the girlfriend, You're like, it's awkward anyway, figuring out who

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<v Speaker 4>against the front seat when there's more than two passengers, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a really fun thing to do. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're just sitting in the back to remove a layer

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<v Speaker 4>of awkwardness, not because you view yourself with inferior to

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<v Speaker 4>your boyfriend's mum. However, is that the vibe it's giving.

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<v Speaker 4>We need the moms to weigh in. What are you

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<v Speaker 4>thinking when the girlfriend takes the front seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to know. I think there is so

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<v Speaker 3>much politics with car sitting. I think about it with

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<v Speaker 3>my family always. Dad must drive, naturally, only time I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>A fatherless household, so it's mum must drive. But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's why I want to drive everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You're good at driving around And the only time when

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<v Speaker 3>the person in the front would switch between front and

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<v Speaker 3>back would be if I took mum's place, which reminds me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you've heard about this about how some women

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<v Speaker 3>like are mean to their mums. Yeah, to get in

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<v Speaker 3>with their dads because everyone's demeaning the woman. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was definitely in that camp. Brutal and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a real It's kind of like the passitive thing. You

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<v Speaker 3>hit it and you're realize and you're like, WHOA, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even thinking about.

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<v Speaker 4>It, but now we are thinking about it, and now

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<v Speaker 4>we can't stop thinking about it. So just be aware

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<v Speaker 4>of the optics. M you know, what does it look

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<v Speaker 4>like to get in the front seat?

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<v Speaker 2>What does the front seat even mean? Anyway, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>get into it now, what does.

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<v Speaker 3>The front seat Someone's in the car listening to this

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<v Speaker 3>with somebody in the front.

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<v Speaker 2>In the back.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna ask about it, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that anybody's thought about it consciously. But if we ask

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<v Speaker 4>them to think about it, they're going to have perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>a more certain view than we think.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>There's nothing but cordial politeness between us, respects. I have

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<v Speaker 4>been thinking about companionship, more specifically getting an animal of

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<v Speaker 4>some kind. I've never had a pet before. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I'm a pet person. All the signs are

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<v Speaker 4>saying no, and yet I'm still thinking about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>on cat TikTok now because my soulmate convinced me that

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<v Speaker 4>I should get a cat because her cat loves her.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've been looking at the way cats behave, and

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately I don't think they're my people. I need a

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<v Speaker 4>very small tea cup rabbit puppy.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, Yeah, what style?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that I want a Chihuahua, But I also

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<v Speaker 4>think that I want like a what do you call that?

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<v Speaker 4>Fluffy one like a pom Pomeranian or a papillon I love,

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<v Speaker 4>just like a law one with an attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>I get a papion if I are you, however, sorry

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<v Speaker 3>to interrupt you, no please.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want a chiuaha.

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<v Speaker 3>My whole for you page on Instagram is chiuhahas I

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<v Speaker 3>post about them frequently. I'm obsessed and if I know

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<v Speaker 3>my lifestyle does I don't think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. This could be a really terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us go with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What about if I we put in money for a chiuaha?

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<v Speaker 2>The money's not the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, half the time with you, half the time it's

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<v Speaker 3>with me, because our schedules don't align always.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. Could that work? That feels better to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Co parenting, and because I have.

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<v Speaker 3>An exit strategy which would not sit well for our

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<v Speaker 3>personal brands, but my parents could always take it. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if we got over it. Would you ever consider getting

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<v Speaker 3>a pet with somebody?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I'd really be on board for a

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<v Speaker 4>de facto pet, long term relationship, our pet, your pet,

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<v Speaker 4>my entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's a mood.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll buy the food, I'll go on walks. But in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of responsibility, you figure out what's happening. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is why I am reconsidering parenting anyway. I read a

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<v Speaker 4>fact and I read it from a fact Instagram page,

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<v Speaker 4>and as we've discussed, I don't think they are the

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<v Speaker 4>most credible places. There are no sources, no citations. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's not my business, all right. I read that cats

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<v Speaker 4>may have decided to live with humans because humans attract rodents,

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<v Speaker 4>making it convenient for them to stick around. It's possible

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<v Speaker 4>that cats domesticated themselves. If that is not the ultimate flex,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what is. They said, we're only here

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<v Speaker 4>because you people are gross, cherylbe and.

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<v Speaker 2>We need food. That makes a lot of sense, because

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<v Speaker 2>cats don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Even seem to like people that much, not enough for

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<v Speaker 4>them to be like the primary pet.

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<v Speaker 2>They They're anxious avoidant for sure, for sure. See, don't

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<v Speaker 2>think too hard about it. It could be fake news.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't let it change your self perception or the perception

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<v Speaker 4>of cats.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like cats as is, Okay, I don't hate them.

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<v Speaker 3>I just they I'm allergic to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounding prejudice.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't hate them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The point of this is that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>a chumaba time shared chiuaba time shared from puppy age onwards.

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<v Speaker 2>That's oh controversial.

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