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Speaker 1: If you're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast. Tama

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Speaker 1: is the editor of The Daily Oh. She is our

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Speaker 1: entertainment pop culture guru. Hello Emma, Hello Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to you today. We've got some

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Speaker 2: very juicy unsealed court documents relating to the ongoing Blake

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Speaker 2: Lively Justin Baldoni It Ends with Us saga. We have

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Speaker 2: talked about this plenty of times before, but to bring

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Speaker 2: you up to speed real quick, remember that movie It

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Speaker 2: ends with Us. Well, anyway, no one cares about the movie.

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Speaker 2: All we care about is the fallout from the movie.

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Speaker 2: Because Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, it's two stars have

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Speaker 2: gone head to head in a series of legal battles.

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Speaker 2: But the big one is this suit that Blake Lively

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Speaker 2: has brought against Baldoni for harassment sexual harassment on set,

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Speaker 2: and she is alleging he orchestrated a smear campaign against her.

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Speaker 2: Those proceedings are ongoing, but as part of this action,

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Speaker 2: we've got unsealed court documents which have oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: emails and texts girl law from all these celebrities about

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Speaker 2: this case, including Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, everyone is talking

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Speaker 2: about the Taylor Swift ones, which I'll get to in

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Speaker 2: a second.

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Speaker 1: So when you say they've released messages from these people,

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Speaker 1: have these people been messaging Blake Lively? Is that what

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Speaker 1: we're reading.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's conversations between Blake Lively and a lot

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Speaker 2: of these celebrities about what was going on at the time.

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Speaker 2: And I suppose the reason that they're relevant to this case,

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Speaker 2: or that Blake Lively's team is arguing, is they paint

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Speaker 2: a picture of this timeline of kind of interference and

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Speaker 2: inappropriate conduct allegedly by Baldoni. The Damons clearly are on

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Speaker 2: team Blake Lively as well as team Ryan Reynolds, that's

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Speaker 2: her very famous husband. But the Taylor Swift messages have

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Speaker 2: painted a kind of sad picture about female friendship. I

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Speaker 2: think I want to read you some of them. So

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift besties with Blake Lively, or so we thought.

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Speaker 2: She's the godmother of some of her children. They have

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Speaker 2: this long standing friendship. But Lively addressed this kind of

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Speaker 2: shift in their friendship in some text messages that we

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Speaker 2: have now seen that were written in December twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Blake Lively wrote, Hey, just checking in I've got no

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Speaker 2: reason to ask, but I've been feeling like I should.

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Speaker 2: Is everything okay? I felt like a bad friend lately

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Speaker 2: because I was such a sad sack who only talked

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Speaker 2: about my own stuff for months, and you were generous

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Speaker 2: to not only be the key person there for me

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Speaker 2: during all of it. But I always want an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to be a better friend. Taylor Swift confirms that there

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Speaker 2: has been a change in their dynamic. Obviously, these very

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Speaker 2: private messages that we're now seeing that were never meant

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Speaker 2: to be for public consumption, but we're eating it up.

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Speaker 2: Swift said, no, you're not wrong. I think I'm just

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Speaker 2: exhausted in every avenue of my life. She was on

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Speaker 2: the Era Storre at this point, and in recent months,

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Speaker 2: I've been feeling a shift in the way you talk

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Speaker 2: to me. So she basically goes on to say that

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Speaker 2: Blake Lively has kind of spoken to her like she

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Speaker 2: is a business, like every message is from a PR firm,

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Speaker 2: you know, rather than just being the sort of cheeky,

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Speaker 2: fun loving friend that she knows and loves. They end

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Speaker 2: things on a kind of positive note, but it's not

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Speaker 2: really clear if they patch it up and There have

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Speaker 2: been rumors of a feud between Lively and Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: for almost as long as rumors of the chaos on

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Speaker 2: the set of this film have been around. So very interesting,

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Speaker 2: very strange. We don't really have any answers, but Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift could be subpoenaed and then we will learn her

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Speaker 2: version of events. Imagine it ends with us, but it

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Speaker 2: never ends.

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Speaker 1: And imagine if our private text to our friends, we

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Speaker 1: say a whole lot of things to support our friends,

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Speaker 1: whether they're factual or not. Imagine if all of that

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Speaker 1: was made public.

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Speaker 2: It's like Amanda being excluded from the galpal we Can, which.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't by the way. I did check with them.

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Speaker 1: It just happened to be a random exclusion, not because

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Speaker 1: they chose to exclude me.

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Speaker 2: I wish had ended right then and there. But it's

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Speaker 2: not going to end us, and it's not going to

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Speaker 2: end ever.

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