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Speaker 1: On today's episode, I have one of my favorite Australian
Speaker 1: TV personalities.
Speaker 2: It is Julia Zamiro.
Speaker 1: Julia is a French born Australian television presenter, radio host, actress, singer,
Speaker 1: writer and comedian Wow Resume. She is best known as
Speaker 1: the host of the music quiz and live performance show
Speaker 1: Rock Quiz, which has just been rebooted and given a
Speaker 1: new home on Foxtel. Rock Quiz airs Fridays at seven
Speaker 1: thirty pm on Foxtel and if you want to catch
Speaker 1: up on those episodes, you can do that on demand.
Speaker 1: If you've never seen the show before, make sure you
Speaker 1: check it out. Julia is phenomenally entertaining and a joy
Speaker 1: to watch, and if you're a music fan, there really
Speaker 1: is something in this for you as well. We will
Speaker 1: discuss her influences and find out who particularly she looked
Speaker 1: up to in her early days. I will ask how
Speaker 1: Rock Quiz got rebooted for Foxtel. Julia explains how the
Speaker 1: role came about and how her relationship with co host
Speaker 1: Brian Nankervis has evolved over time. Plus, we will get
Speaker 1: some exclusives on the new series Rockquiz, which includes some
Speaker 1: tidbits regarding the guests like Ben Ley, Tina Arena and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Barnes. What a list of music legends. However, let's
Speaker 1: bring Julia into the podcast as I'm sure you're gonna
Speaker 1: love this chat. Hi, Julia, thanks for coming on podcast.
Speaker 3: It's my pleasure. Ben how are you I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing very well.
Speaker 1: You know, you are actually someone who is often on
Speaker 1: my mind, and that is because you know, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for you as you know who
Speaker 1: you are as a comedian, presenter, actor and all rounder
Speaker 1: and always have done like I've always looked up to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Look you know you. Look when you graduate
Speaker 3: from acting school like I did years ago, you have
Speaker 3: no idea where your career is going to take you
Speaker 3: if you even had the you know, the wherewithal to
Speaker 3: use the word career back then about it? You just
Speaker 3: think am I ever going to get paid for a job?
Speaker 3: And then when you do, it's really exciting and you
Speaker 3: start to think, oh, maybe this can work. So I've
Speaker 3: been around a long time. So Ben, if I've been
Speaker 3: an influence or a guiding light in the darkness of
Speaker 3: our times, I'm delighted.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I've had friends in the industry say at times, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure who I am or where do
Speaker 1: I fit in, and I always use you as an example.
Speaker 1: I think what's quite amazing about you is that you
Speaker 1: kind of know who you are and you don't really
Speaker 1: apologize for that.
Speaker 3: Look, Ben, do you want to get married that's such
Speaker 3: a lovely thing to say.
Speaker 2: You're still with Carton. Am I going to get in
Speaker 2: trouble with you?
Speaker 3: No? I am still with Carston absolutely. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to just tell you something that last night,
Speaker 1: as I was going to sleep, I put on a
Speaker 1: podcast of you being interviewed. It started off with one
Speaker 1: and then I didn't realize that they would roll into others.
Speaker 1: So I've literally listened to every podcast that you have
Speaker 1: ever done whilst I've been asleep, So I know facts
Speaker 1: about you that I probably don't even really I wasn't
Speaker 1: even awake for.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is like some subliminal level stuff
Speaker 3: right there. Oh god, I think too though, in terms
Speaker 3: of playing your natural game. You know, any industry, and
Speaker 3: it's a shame that we have to call the arts
Speaker 3: in industry anyway. But whatever world you're working in artistically,
Speaker 3: you can tell the people who want to do you
Speaker 3: wrong or have your worst interest at heart, or you know,
Speaker 3: aren't going to take you in the right direction, and
Speaker 3: you can just say no, I'm not saying that you've
Speaker 3: got to do anything for work or you sometimes you
Speaker 3: can't turn down work because you need the money or whatever.
Speaker 3: But there are times when you can say that doesn't
Speaker 3: suit me, and I won't do it, And I think,
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of have to have some kind
Speaker 3: of say in what you do in your career.
Speaker 2: But were you always like that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean people get like that in their
Speaker 1: career later on and they can then pick and choose.
Speaker 1: But were you always in control and thinking, I'm going
Speaker 1: to say no to the things that just didn't suit you.
Speaker 3: So for example, you know, I came out of acting
Speaker 3: school and I did Shakespeare in high schools with Bell Shakespeare,
Speaker 3: where you got a regular paycheck every week. I could
Speaker 3: not believe what was going on. And then I auditioned
Speaker 3: for an AD for a sanitary pad AD and it's
Speaker 3: probably one of the better ads about sanitary pads that
Speaker 3: you'll ever see, sure in natural ultra thin MAXI shields.
Speaker 3: And I'd never got an AD before or gone for
Speaker 3: an AD, and it was unbelievable to get it and
Speaker 3: get that kind of money at that time, and couldn't
Speaker 3: believe it. And over the next few years, I did
Speaker 3: seem to do an add a year and I got
Speaker 3: offered things like McDonald's and said no, I did do
Speaker 3: pizza hut. I mean, you know, one monologue as as
Speaker 3: bad as the other. But you know, I've been offered
Speaker 3: gambling ads, I've been offered racing. I don't do Melbourne
Speaker 3: Cup events. You know, they're all things that you can
Speaker 3: actually say no to. Had a woman once come to
Speaker 3: me in an event saying, every year we asked for
Speaker 3: you and your agent, I'm sure she doesn't even put
Speaker 3: offer through. And I'm like, well, no, she shows me everything,
Speaker 3: so no, no. I just think she decided and I
Speaker 3: just said, okay, what's the gig. What do you ask
Speaker 3: me every year to do? She said Melbourne Cup? And
Speaker 3: she went on this whole thing about Melbourn Cup and
Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm just going to stop you there.
Speaker 3: Don't believe in it, so that's why it never comes back. Yes,
Speaker 3: And she looked at me like I slapped her in
Speaker 3: the face and said it's not personal, not saying I
Speaker 3: don't like you. I just will not do that event.
Speaker 3: So you know, and it might not sound like much
Speaker 3: to say no to her. You know. At one point
Speaker 3: I stopped am seeing austraighted events. You know, I was
Speaker 3: really I was really ignorant about indigenous issues in my
Speaker 3: twenties and I'm ashamed of that. And when I started
Speaker 3: to understand what was going on, I went, well, that's
Speaker 3: a no brainer. I'm just not going to do anything anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to see anything on Australia Day anymore.
Speaker 3: And I might be involved at all. So you can
Speaker 3: make those kinds of decisions just to make you feel
Speaker 3: like you have agency in the work that you're doing.
Speaker 1: And no, I think we're always evolving as well. And
Speaker 1: you're the sort of person who is absorbing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like when you say I might have
Speaker 1: been ignorant, you know, I think a lot of people were,
Speaker 1: and then once you found out that information, you stopped
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, And I think.
Speaker 2: A lot of who you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love you because I think you have
Speaker 1: a great understanding of social commentary, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what your humor is. Like, I think you understand people well.
Speaker 3: You know, I think too. You know, I did a
Speaker 3: lot of training as an improviser and in improv. The
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the cliche is that you always
Speaker 3: say yes and and you don't block and all of that.
Speaker 3: But the best thing I ever heard about training in
Speaker 3: improv when you're in a scene with someone. All you
Speaker 3: need is who's in front of you. So there's no
Speaker 3: point trying to invent something that's out there. You don't
Speaker 3: need to make the scene interesting by pretending there's a
Speaker 3: planet coming to hit the earth, or you know, dog's
Speaker 3: just walked in or whatever. All you need is the
Speaker 3: person in front of you. And I would say that
Speaker 3: works in relationships. It works on home delivery when I'm
Speaker 3: interviewing people and taking them back to their childhood home
Speaker 3: to a rock with contestant who has been dying to
Speaker 3: be on the show for years finally gets through, and
Speaker 3: my job is to kind of go okay. In my head,
Speaker 3: I'm always like, you need to have people laugh at
Speaker 3: something you say and make you feel warm inside before
Speaker 3: we get going. So that little warm up we do
Speaker 3: where I say, first album, first concert, When they hear
Speaker 3: the audience clap them or go or laugh straight away,
Speaker 3: they relax. Why is that good? Because I'll get the
Speaker 3: best out of them for the next half hour, you know.
Speaker 3: It's so whoever's right in front of you is what
Speaker 3: you need to kind of concentrate on and just listen
Speaker 3: and take in what you're getting back.
Speaker 1: But I think that's I think that's the importance of
Speaker 1: going to drama. Like, I don't think everyone needs to
Speaker 1: be a drama student, but I think the things.
Speaker 2: That you learn in that is powerful.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've got a lot of friends who
Speaker 1: have anxiety now, and there's a lot of social anxiety
Speaker 1: coming out of COVID and I and they get really
Speaker 1: stressed about going out and I'm like, well, who.
Speaker 2: Are you going to see?
Speaker 1: And they're like, I'm going to see my friend Carla
Speaker 1: or you know whoever. And I'm like, you don't need
Speaker 1: to worry about, you know, everything else, you know, just
Speaker 1: you're going to see that person, and you don't even
Speaker 1: need to worry about what you're going to say.
Speaker 2: You just need to sit down and ask how are they?
Speaker 2: You know? And it helps me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny how that happens. And I think, look,
Speaker 3: I grew up in a different time with a different
Speaker 3: set of circumstances, no social media, you know, I was
Speaker 3: well known before you know, Instagram, Twitter, so I've never
Speaker 3: had to use it to get where I need to go.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I've grown up in a world
Speaker 3: that was a bit more I don't know, you could
Speaker 3: kind of understand it more or something you kind of
Speaker 3: knew where you stood. Things didn't go as fast, so
Speaker 3: that anxiety. I don't have that kind of anxiety. But
Speaker 3: I think you're right if you just say breathe, go
Speaker 3: in there, have no expectations, you know, then the world
Speaker 3: is tricky, so you've got to be ready for the
Speaker 3: trickiness around it. I mean, it's it's been a tough time.
Speaker 3: I still don't think people are really I really processed
Speaker 3: that weird COVID downtime, where on the one hand you thought, Wow,
Speaker 3: what a great holiday, and on the other hand thinking
Speaker 3: the world is ending.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're out the other side of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still see the little signs in people
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that has to be those Melbourne lockdowns,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that has to be this.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't anti any of that. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the government told me to do. It was fine
Speaker 1: and I rolled with it. But then I probably wasn't
Speaker 1: aware of how much it was going to affect people anyway.
Speaker 1: This is a completely different conversation.
Speaker 3: I mean, we could be doing the whole of the
Speaker 3: world's problems.
Speaker 1: Then I really could, and I could unpack this with you,
Speaker 1: but people will want to know things like, you know,
Speaker 1: who are your influencers?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And that's what I I would love to know, because
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you were born overseas, you know.
Speaker 2: But I guess you moved here when you were two?
Speaker 2: Is that? I think that's right?
Speaker 1: But you would have absorbed a lot of I guess
Speaker 1: as you know the Australian entertainment industry, who was it
Speaker 1: that influenced you?
Speaker 3: Look? For me, the first person comes to mind is
Speaker 3: Noline Brown, okay, because she was in the Naked Vicar
Speaker 3: Show and I would turn that would come on at
Speaker 3: night on the TV and you'd see this brilliant, glamorous
Speaker 3: woman sitting between two men being hilarious and then next
Speaker 3: minute she'd be in a beanie being a hilarious character
Speaker 3: or playing a man. And I just thought she was gold.
Speaker 3: And when my dad first came to Australia, my mum's Australian,
Speaker 3: so of course she spoke English, but dad didn't. He
Speaker 3: was French. And in the kitchen that he used to
Speaker 3: work in in his restaurant, when he was getting stuff
Speaker 3: ready for the evening, he would listen to the Naked
Speaker 3: Vicar Show on the radio to understand jargon, slang, Australian sayings,
Speaker 3: get used to the accent because it was tricky, and
Speaker 3: when we Noline for home delivery, it was just a
Speaker 3: beautiful circle of a moment to be able to say
Speaker 3: to her. You probably thought you were making comedy and
Speaker 3: just TV, but for some people were learning English offer
Speaker 3: and learning all these different things from it. So she
Speaker 3: was a real model. But then in my teens it
Speaker 3: was French and Saunders, those two women. I'm a big
Speaker 3: English humor fan, and those two women just he just
Speaker 3: felt like they could do anything and it was all
Speaker 3: character based, which I loved. And look at the careers
Speaker 3: they've had since then. They're women who just did what
Speaker 3: they wanted to do, is all. And I'm sure they'd
Speaker 3: probably say it wasn't always like that.
Speaker 1: But I see those stories though from you know, even
Speaker 1: Jane Turner and Gena Riley, you know, they really believed
Speaker 1: in the Kath and Kim characters and they kept trying
Speaker 1: to take it to the networks and the networks kept
Speaker 1: dropping it. But they believed in those characters and that
Speaker 1: their influences are from England. And then I was talking
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Reese the other day on the podcast, and
Speaker 1: his dad was into English humor, and so you grew
Speaker 1: up watching all of it. It's kind of like a
Speaker 1: masterclass growing up. If you understood English humor, then you
Speaker 1: got it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: The ABC was on in our house all the time,
Speaker 3: so of course you got the two Ronnies, and you've
Speaker 3: got Dave Allen at large, and you've got Morcam and
Speaker 3: Wise and you know, I mean a lot of blokes.
Speaker 3: So that's a but I got what I understood and
Speaker 3: loved that sort of sense of humor more than the
Speaker 3: Americans definitely. And then with French and Saunders, it was
Speaker 3: just the friendship of them, the sweetness of them. They're
Speaker 3: doing a caricature, not really doing it, but sometimes doing it,
Speaker 3: Jennifer actually really nailing it sometimes and going wow, I
Speaker 3: mean you've almost been a serious actress, but Dawn always
Speaker 3: undermining it. I mean, yeah, it's so playful, playful, you know,
Speaker 3: And that's what improv is. It's about being playful and
Speaker 3: that's what that was my background too.
Speaker 1: What a gig Rockuiz has been for you? And hasn't
Speaker 1: this show been on an amazing journey.
Speaker 3: It's opened every door. I was thirty seven living in Melbourne,
Speaker 3: having a nice enough but poor life and going, okay,
Speaker 3: you've done lots of things in your life, but if
Speaker 3: by the time you're forty you haven't got that gig,
Speaker 3: then that's going to sort of pay rent in a
Speaker 3: more serious way. And not that I got paid a
Speaker 3: lot of money for Rock was the first series, but
Speaker 3: when we got renewed and renewed and then we went
Speaker 3: on tour, and then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 3: SBS went, oh, Julia, right, well this is a bit
Speaker 3: we're going to be doing eu Vision. Do you want
Speaker 3: to do the commentary on that? It was like, what, yes,
Speaker 3: I do? It opened that door. And then you know,
Speaker 3: when I was interviewing people backstage at Eurovision, which was
Speaker 3: such a popular part of the show because Sampang and
Speaker 3: I would always kind of do research on the people
Speaker 3: and try and find things that people didn't know about them. So, like,
Speaker 3: you know, Robin from Sweden was a wrestler, and so
Speaker 3: when Sam went in with those wrestling questions, it really
Speaker 3: took him by surprise and he loved it and he
Speaker 3: ended up flipping Sam in. I mean, it was gold.
Speaker 3: You know, So these moments that were golden. The home
Speaker 3: Delivery people saw those interviews and said, you really can
Speaker 3: talk to anyone even when you don't have the language.
Speaker 3: Would you like to do an interview show? And they
Speaker 3: came up with the concept of Julie Zimiro's I'm Delivery.
Speaker 3: Then I did radio with beautiful John o'cleman as well,
Speaker 3: and things just kind of they started to roll. So
Speaker 3: I really feel that Rock was an SBS opened every
Speaker 3: door in that way.
Speaker 1: How did the show come along to you? Because the
Speaker 1: question I have with this is, you know, did you
Speaker 1: work with a production team on how you wanted to
Speaker 1: be included in this show?
Speaker 2: Because you know, I just rewatched an old episode before
Speaker 2: interviewing you. This morning.
Speaker 1: I got up and was watching old episodes and I
Speaker 1: just was thinking, really just suits you, you know, the improvisation,
Speaker 1: the comedy, the relatability with people, the music, you know,
Speaker 1: your passion for music, all of it just culminated. You know,
Speaker 1: did you work with them before the show rolled on
Speaker 1: the first episode with how you wanted to be included
Speaker 1: or did they just had someone been watching you.
Speaker 3: I've been auditioning for a lot of hosting jobs for
Speaker 3: really shit things like dating shows. Dog shows before dogs
Speaker 3: were you know popular now shore, but they were kind
Speaker 3: of demeaning shows with the dogs being dressed as things.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, And I remember going every audition's experience.
Speaker 3: It's always good to do them. But anyway, my age
Speaker 3: rings goes, I've got another audition for you. I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: what is it now? Shit's music? I went, oh, great, okay,
Speaker 3: can do so go to the audition and Brian and
Speaker 3: Kervis is there, and two other producers are there, and
Speaker 3: I do all the kind of auto Q stuff and
Speaker 3: then they seek we give you a quiz. So they
Speaker 3: gave me the quiz. I got seventy five percent. I
Speaker 3: think they were pretty delighted. I got a callback and
Speaker 3: at the callback there were two teams of professional comedians.
Speaker 3: Colin Lane was there, Ross Daniels the band was their camera,
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, right, it's now and ever. What
Speaker 3: the Rock Quiz production team did though, is they never
Speaker 3: got in my way. Now, if you're a real creative,
Speaker 3: if you understand how things work and you get the
Speaker 3: right people, when you do that callback with someone, you say,
Speaker 3: be free, go for it. And in fact, they didn't
Speaker 3: need an expert on music. I mean, I love music,
Speaker 3: but they didn't need an expert. They needed someone who
Speaker 3: could improvise, who could control two teams of people, who
Speaker 3: could turn on a dime, who could think on a
Speaker 3: feet all that, and when they saw me really take
Speaker 3: control of the space, that's when I think they thought,
Speaker 3: we've got our person. And they have never given me
Speaker 3: any direction to change.
Speaker 2: What I do.
Speaker 3: The only thing that was said to me the only
Speaker 3: real nighte they've ever even and it's ironic because you
Speaker 3: trained active for three years, you get notes all the time.
Speaker 3: It's fine, give me notes, it's fine. Was because we
Speaker 3: filmed at the SB Hotel in the Gershwin Room, which
Speaker 3: is a real pub, and there were three hundred people
Speaker 3: in that pub and the camera. I would sometimes play
Speaker 3: too much for the crowd and yell instead of just
Speaker 3: doing it for camera. So they would just say can
Speaker 3: you not yell? And I used to stick it on
Speaker 3: my lectern, little handwritten notes saying don't yell, don't yell.
Speaker 2: It's hard to.
Speaker 1: Do that with a live audience, though, And I remember
Speaker 1: once thinking with Rove, someone needed to tell that to
Speaker 1: Rove because Rove, I felt, with these monologues he would
Speaker 1: always be, you know, just yelling it at you. And
Speaker 1: then I remember meeting him and talking to him about
Speaker 1: it and he just was like, I just was so
Speaker 1: excited to do this show. He'd start every episode with
Speaker 1: that passion and he was like just you know, and
Speaker 1: the audience was there. So it's a hard footnote to learn,
Speaker 1: I think when you are a television slash live entertainer.
Speaker 3: And when people said it was you know, oh, rockquiz,
Speaker 3: you're going on the road, God, how will you do that?
Speaker 3: Do you all know how to do theater? And we're like,
Speaker 3: we all started in theater, like none of us started
Speaker 3: in TV. The band didn't start on TV. Brian died
Speaker 3: that we were all doing improv or stand up or gigs.
Speaker 3: So in fact, we all had to learn how to
Speaker 3: bring it to television when we go out on the road.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got this huge stage where you can
Speaker 3: be as big as bold as you like and take
Speaker 3: up all the space you like. So TV is a
Speaker 3: very it's you're right, it's a tricky. It's a whole
Speaker 3: other kind of skill. And that's why you know, some
Speaker 3: people are it's really their forte and that's why CRUs
Speaker 3: certain crews that work together well, and we've basically almost
Speaker 3: brought back most of the crew that were at SBS.
Speaker 1: That says something about the people that are in the
Speaker 1: show that make the show. You know, you read about that,
Speaker 1: you see that all the time behind the scenes. You
Speaker 1: know crews being turned over on popular shows, and you go,
Speaker 1: something's not right here where with you and Brian. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone still wants to come back and work with the
Speaker 1: two of you.
Speaker 3: But also two I think all of us, everybody that
Speaker 3: turned up, seventy percent of the people shooting on that
Speaker 3: day know the show, They know the vocabulary, they know
Speaker 3: everything about it. And it's just such a smart move
Speaker 3: because it means there's so much already knowledge in the
Speaker 3: room about the thing, so that when we were readapting
Speaker 3: it to a new space because we weren't any longer
Speaker 3: in the pub. We're in the studio. That's exciting for
Speaker 3: them because they know how they can make it better.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this for free. Then I'll tell
Speaker 3: you this for free. The nice thing about being in
Speaker 3: the studio was the lighting. Ah, real, lovely, beautiful, soft,
Speaker 3: delicious lighting for all of us, which we all appreciated
Speaker 3: because the hub, I mean we really had to rig
Speaker 3: not great stuff.
Speaker 1: If anyone's ever gone to the SB and played a
Speaker 1: game of pool, even you'll notice that their conditioning's never
Speaker 1: been there.
Speaker 2: Fourteen.
Speaker 1: So when you guys were doing rock was there and
Speaker 1: you'd watch it and the episode I was watching earlier before,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you can understand why you'd be
Speaker 1: a little bit clamming, you know, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. I remember wonderful, brilliant Renee Gayer, who
Speaker 3: I had the privilege of having on the show Varlet
Speaker 3: beautiful woman. She was really sweating as well, and she's like, God,
Speaker 3: it's hot up here. I said, mate, I know, so
Speaker 3: you just get dabbed down in between, you know shows.
Speaker 3: When we filmed in winter, it was lovely, but it
Speaker 3: was freezing backstage. On stage was great. I mean, we
Speaker 3: had one time when all the equipment kind of died
Speaker 3: and we literally got ice from the front bar and
Speaker 3: had it there near the equipment with a fan blowing
Speaker 3: it so it would cool down. I mean, but they're
Speaker 3: the great stories, you know. That's what made it feel
Speaker 3: really rock and roll and gave it that real kind
Speaker 3: of feel, and it made it a place where musicians
Speaker 3: felt relaxed to come and do the show because they
Speaker 3: knew the sp for them. They weren't walking into a
Speaker 3: cold television studio. They were walking to somewhere that they
Speaker 3: kind of knew a little bit, which was nice with
Speaker 3: the Foxtel studio. It was great too because we actually
Speaker 3: did ask back a few people that we worked with
Speaker 3: before who are a bit older now and get the
Speaker 3: world of it as well, and some new people like
Speaker 3: Jimmy Barnes paired up with Wilson. Wilson's a fairly new performer,
Speaker 3: and so that's that thing we've always loved to do
Speaker 3: where you're sometimes giving a person their first time on
Speaker 3: TV playing. When Meg Washington did Rock Quiz years ago,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I can say it was the
Speaker 3: first time she sang on TV on television, but she
Speaker 3: was still pretty young, and we get her back for
Speaker 3: this series and her solo she does a duet. I'm
Speaker 3: not to say he does a duet with, but her solo,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a work of art. She's just
Speaker 3: such an artist, and I just feel so proud to
Speaker 3: know that she was with us at the beginning and
Speaker 3: went on tour with us as well. When we toured
Speaker 3: around the country.
Speaker 1: Part of the magic of this show, though for me,
Speaker 1: has always been there are a little bit of rough erends,
Speaker 1: the edges in the production of this show, and I
Speaker 1: wonder whether or not we have become too word perfect
Speaker 1: in other formats where this show, I mean, it has
Speaker 1: an unbelievable cult following. People love this show. You know,
Speaker 1: if people have watched it once, they're still watching it,
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years later. And I think it has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with a relatability of feeling like
Speaker 1: it's real, do you know what I mean? And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of shows these days are missing that
Speaker 1: element that engages audience. It makes them feel seen and
Speaker 1: makes them feel included.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and well I guess too. You know. With me,
Speaker 3: I've got bits on AUTOQ that stop the top and
Speaker 3: tail each section, of course, and then in between I
Speaker 3: can do what I want. But also it's about the contestants,
Speaker 3: these amazing people who I've just met five minutes ago,
Speaker 3: who I meet backstage, and I say them, right, you
Speaker 3: are no longer contestants. You are actually part of the show.
Speaker 3: You're cast now and together we're going to put on
Speaker 3: this amazing show. So give have some fun. It's going
Speaker 3: to go fast, enjoy it, breathe, sing along, give me
Speaker 3: the wrong answer. Sometimes if you don't know the answer,
Speaker 3: just buzz in and say anything. The audience will love it.
Speaker 3: You've got to give them permission to have a good time,
Speaker 3: and then when they come and sit down, whatever I
Speaker 3: get from them makes the show different every time. And
Speaker 3: that's what I love. And we've been doing it a
Speaker 3: long time, you know. We started this in the mid
Speaker 3: two thousands or late two thousands, and you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like we created it almost a little template, you know,
Speaker 3: of going well, if you've got a good enough host
Speaker 3: who can improvise, you can be in the moment, muck
Speaker 3: around and then get back to what you've got to do.
Speaker 3: And it's what live TV is like too, you know,
Speaker 3: when you've got to do any kind of life stuff,
Speaker 3: you'd know about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just I remember once I got booked
Speaker 1: to do a trivia in Yupoon in Queensland and I
Speaker 1: had to do it by myself and I actually watched
Speaker 1: you because I knew, so I watched clips of you
Speaker 1: before I went out and did it. And the one
Speaker 1: thing which I don't even know if that is something
Speaker 1: conscious of you but even when you're doing the stuff
Speaker 1: that you need to do, you're reading the teleprompter, but
Speaker 1: when you interact with people, you always gave them affirmation
Speaker 1: of things that they said, Like, even if it's like
Speaker 1: it's little sentence before you'd roll, you keep the show going.
Speaker 1: It was very much flowing, but you did always make
Speaker 1: sure that that person felt heard. You never let someone
Speaker 1: say something without acknowledging it. And that's what I've taken
Speaker 1: from you and borrowed it, and I think is very
Speaker 1: important for the audience as much as it is for
Speaker 1: the person that's taking part in the show.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Ben, that's lovely to say. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, the thing is, I know there's a lot
Speaker 3: of TV that's about being you know, nasty or being
Speaker 3: gotcha or whatever, but that's never worked for us, and
Speaker 3: it's never been that. It doesn't mean you can't be cheeky,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean you can't have fun, it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: you can't kind of skirt around the edges of it.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I need them,
Speaker 3: I need them to be in a good place to
Speaker 3: have some fun. And look, I can count on one hand,
Speaker 3: really the times we've had troubles with contestants, and it's
Speaker 3: and it's usually been you know, they've tried to be
Speaker 3: too cool or something, or they won't remove their sunglasses
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, you're gonna miss half the show
Speaker 3: if you do that kind of stuff. But they're nervous too.
Speaker 3: You know, this is assumption that everybody wants to be
Speaker 3: on television. They don't. But when they get through and
Speaker 3: they get the high score and we have them on,
Speaker 3: you can see them going is it today? And yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's hot and it's new and there's lights, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Jimmy Barnes are sitting next
Speaker 3: to you, I mean all of a sudden, Tina Arenas
Speaker 3: next to you, all of a sudden, Meg Max next
Speaker 3: to you. It's like, but those performers, when they bring
Speaker 3: that team together, the team feels included. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think it's also saying fame is great, blah blah,
Speaker 3: but you're still a human being. How do you kind
Speaker 3: of work with people and still come in and kind
Speaker 3: of be a cohesive team, a cohesive whole. And yeah,
Speaker 3: when it works, it's beautiful. And you know, we rarely
Speaker 3: had problems, so it's been a beautiful.
Speaker 2: Ride, I think as well.
Speaker 1: When people ask me they're going to be on a
Speaker 1: quiz show, I get that a lot from people who
Speaker 1: will hit me up on my social media. I've been
Speaker 1: picked to be on hard Quiz or whatever, and they
Speaker 1: then start talking about curating their appearance or curating what
Speaker 1: they're going to say, or preparing like lines that they
Speaker 1: have thought that they will say because they've seen the
Speaker 1: show so much. I'm like, no, I'm like, the moment
Speaker 1: that you start to curate this performance, it actually makes
Speaker 1: you look affected on screen and people disconnect. You know,
Speaker 1: you really have to just turn up, be happy with
Speaker 1: what you've picked to wear, and just relax, you know,
Speaker 1: relax and enjoy it and watch what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Because the moment you try and control the narrative you
Speaker 1: come across badly on screen, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when we were filming at the pub or
Speaker 3: even when we out live on tour, you know, when
Speaker 3: people come to the show, they don't know they might
Speaker 3: end up on stage. So sometimes that's why it's always
Speaker 3: had that rough kind of look, as people are just
Speaker 3: in a T shirt or a daggy cartigan because it's
Speaker 3: cold outside and there they are being a rock star
Speaker 3: because they know all the information and they can answer
Speaker 3: the quiz with the Foxtel version. Brian actually went and
Speaker 3: found we did exactly the same audition process of selecting
Speaker 3: and getting them, because you want to get the best ones,
Speaker 3: you want to get people who kind of know stuff.
Speaker 3: He did that off campus and did a couple of
Speaker 3: nights and we got out to our contestants together and
Speaker 3: had them ready to come on the show. So they
Speaker 3: did have a chance to dress up a bit, which
Speaker 3: they really loved. You could tell they looked incredible. They
Speaker 3: got to be in the makeup chair, they got to
Speaker 3: have that kind of treatment. And also, you know, on
Speaker 3: a couple of nights of shooting a couple of them
Speaker 3: who you know, we had to get everyone to test
Speaker 3: for COVID et cetera. On the day tested positive. So
Speaker 3: luckily we had some standby guests and all a sudden
Speaker 3: they were like, oh my god, I get the geek.
Speaker 3: So it was lovely, It was really lovely. It had
Speaker 3: a good vibe.
Speaker 1: How did the show come back around for Foxtel because
Speaker 1: you know, were you shopping this around? I mean you
Speaker 1: really were owning the brand of rock Wiz. You know,
Speaker 1: in its time off television, were you shopping it around
Speaker 1: to different networks and trying to look for a new home,
Speaker 1: Like how did it come about to be back where
Speaker 1: we are now?
Speaker 3: Well, the producers really do the shopping around. So back
Speaker 3: to what you quit your question before about how did
Speaker 3: you get involved? I never went in going this is
Speaker 3: my idea or this how I want to do it.
Speaker 3: I was like a jobbing actor, going, you need a host,
Speaker 3: and then they let me be who I wanted to be.
Speaker 3: But as the show's kind of grown on, and then
Speaker 3: when we finished at SBS, and I mean shows finished, right,
Speaker 3: you know, home delivery finished, there comes a time where
Speaker 3: it ends. And I think we kept shopping it around
Speaker 3: and no one really wanted it. And as you know, Ben,
Speaker 3: that could be because you know, if there's too much
Speaker 3: music on TV, I don't think so it all right?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Because there? I mean reality TV has really kind of
Speaker 3: nudged its way in and people get people get excited
Speaker 3: by that what are you going to do? And then
Speaker 3: and because we kept doing the show live, we didn't
Speaker 3: we kind of didn't miss it being on TV. And
Speaker 3: plus the repeats were happening on Viceland, and we knew
Speaker 3: that if we were going to do it again, we'd
Speaker 3: have to kind of do it in a slightly different way.
Speaker 3: We pretty much thought we would like to go into
Speaker 3: a studio and see what that would be like to
Speaker 3: do almost feel like is it a tonight show? Is
Speaker 3: this what it could be? It's not that still the
Speaker 3: show that it is, and just to have the space
Speaker 3: and like I say, the lighting and the time. So
Speaker 3: you know, when Foxtel said we're interested, we were really
Speaker 3: excited because it was that sense of this will probably
Speaker 3: be the only time and the second time is the
Speaker 3: last time we'll go to TV. I mean, because we're
Speaker 3: all getting old and that's fine, but how am I
Speaker 3: going to fit into pants that much longer? On?
Speaker 2: You look pretty good, my friend.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now, this is just for people
Speaker 1: who are listening to this podcast we're recording in the morning.
Speaker 1: I'll probably be like, you're five hundredth interview this morning
Speaker 1: from where you are, But you look pretty good, my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you. No children, lots of sleep, don't really take drugs.
Speaker 3: So let's everyone you're after and just you saw Belene.
Speaker 3: Don't be ridiculous save your money, go overseas. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The funniest thing that you just said, you know that
Speaker 1: I got asked years ago what moisture is. I'm forty
Speaker 1: three and people are like, oh, you look so young.
Speaker 1: What's your secret? And ill people by just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: stupid shit that people say. I have an egg and
Speaker 1: a piece of bacon every morning, which is crap. But
Speaker 1: the one thing about my routine is that I use
Speaker 1: Sorbelean as moisturizer.
Speaker 2: We got off on a.
Speaker 3: Ta you have the hot tips we're giving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people listening to this now we've changed their lives.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, you know, the format
Speaker 1: was so well oiled, and I love that there are
Speaker 1: some differences that are coming to the series, and there's
Speaker 1: some familiarity that's obviously there. Just for the record, Pearl
Speaker 1: Jam was my first concert and Michael Jackson Black or
Speaker 1: White was my first album. However, I did get to
Speaker 1: see that album in concert then afterwards. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: Pearl Jam and Michael Jackson's pretty I think.
Speaker 3: You would get claps. You get a little Wimbledon clap
Speaker 3: for that if you were at the show. Then they
Speaker 3: go ooh. People make sounds like pitty be clicking. Hey Ben, question,
Speaker 3: Pearl Jam, how old were you?
Speaker 2: I was fourteen?
Speaker 3: And were you a bit scared?
Speaker 1: Fucking terrified? I can swear on this podcast just so
Speaker 1: you know. Now we know, but fucking terrified. And I
Speaker 1: remember I was told at school and I was in
Speaker 1: year nine and my brother came over and shook me and.
Speaker 2: Said, we're going to see Pearl Jam. Anyway, I didn't
Speaker 2: know the music at all. I didn't even know what
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam was.
Speaker 1: So I thought I had something to do with jam,
Speaker 1: you know, like fungus in your toes or something. And
Speaker 1: so I was explained what it was, and I listened
Speaker 1: to a couple of the tracks with Eddie Vedder. But
Speaker 1: it was when Vitology was coming out, and Vitology was
Speaker 1: a very loud album, and it scared the Bejesus out
Speaker 1: of me. But I love Pearl Jam's music now, like
Speaker 1: that whole experience, the fear, the whole excitement.
Speaker 2: You know, I nearly was going to spew all.
Speaker 1: Of that is my love of concerts, and I still
Speaker 1: go see concerts all the time because I think they're
Speaker 1: so important to the soul. Like I think people who
Speaker 1: pay and go and see concerts live longer.
Speaker 3: Hey, the last time I saw Pearl Jam. They're all
Speaker 3: very well behaved. They were had wine, they had drinks.
Speaker 3: They were drinking red wine on stage. They all had
Speaker 3: sense of sexy designer glasses on and in between songs
Speaker 3: they just stood there quietly waiting for Eddie to introduce
Speaker 3: the next song. I was like, what it's going on?
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: I will have to say though I got asked. This
Speaker 1: is in twenty twelve. I got asked to go to
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast and he go to like a it
Speaker 1: was like a festival, like a what was it called
Speaker 1: the Big Day Out and I think twenty thirteen Big
Speaker 1: Day Out? And I was told I get to interview
Speaker 1: some of the bands. I got to interview Eddie Vedder
Speaker 1: and I got taken to where he was to interview him.
Speaker 1: And the thing was my partner at the time was
Speaker 1: acting as my manager. Word otherwise for people, get a
Speaker 1: real manager, not your partner. That's fuck it.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: And Ben didn't tell me.
Speaker 1: My partner's Ben. I'm Bennet's very weird. Ben didn't tell
Speaker 1: me that they booked me to pretend that I was
Speaker 1: at the Big gay out and that everyone I interviewed
Speaker 1: I had to seem like I was confused, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I went, I mean I went rang
Speaker 1: my partner and yelled at him in the toilet and
Speaker 1: cried and said I can't do this, and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: they're paying you good money, you know, just do it.
Speaker 1: So I interviewed Eddievedder and the first thing I said
Speaker 1: to him, as I held a nine inch microphone to
Speaker 1: him while I was interviewing, I said, you know, just.
Speaker 2: Welcome to be gay out. I said, does this feel
Speaker 2: very strange? I had to lean into it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, it just feel very uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with me holding my nine inch microphone. You're like, anyway,
Speaker 1: this Phallix joke and I thought, he's either going to
Speaker 1: punch me or the gods of music are going to
Speaker 1: strike me down for this person who is.
Speaker 2: A legend in my world.
Speaker 1: And he could see through all of it, and he
Speaker 1: laughed and he gave me good He gave me good chat.
Speaker 3: You know, Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: But how you know that's where the universe and you've
Speaker 1: mentioned this before, it's it's you know, the industry, when
Speaker 1: the when you work in the industry and things like
Speaker 1: that come back around. It feels almost too serendipitous. It
Speaker 1: feels quite like this was always supposed to happen, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, take it. You know, there's
Speaker 3: so few great moments sometimes you know, you just go
Speaker 3: take it. And I hope, like I finally got to
Speaker 3: interview Abbat on the pink carpet at the abb of
Speaker 3: the museum opening now and Yetta wasn't there, but Beyond
Speaker 3: and Benny and Freda were, and I mean Freda was
Speaker 3: the one I really wanted to interview because she was
Speaker 3: my girl when I was little, watching ever and Abba
Speaker 3: was my first concert Sydney Creakert Ground on the Friday night,
Speaker 3: not the Thursday when she slipped over.
Speaker 2: Did your mom take was it? Your mom took me?
Speaker 2: She did?
Speaker 3: My mum bless her, she took me. I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean she'd like them too. And that's the thing. They
Speaker 3: cut through everyone in those days. Everyone. I drawed them.
Speaker 3: And when I finished that interview, I remember turning to
Speaker 3: a beautiful Swedish camera and going, what do you do
Speaker 3: when you've done it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: And he said, just take it, enjoy it, and I
Speaker 3: went bloody HELLK, you're right, and it was great to
Speaker 3: go back to the team and say we got them
Speaker 3: and yeah, she was beautiful. She was just beautiful.
Speaker 1: I always say to people that because the industry can
Speaker 1: be so rough at times and people don't know that
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, those moments are the parts that make
Speaker 1: you realize this is what I should be doing. You know,
Speaker 1: they're the reward. Anyway, people be like, we're supposed to
Speaker 1: be talking about Rock, Well, we guess we are's.
Speaker 3: Performing in general, you know, like everything feeds into everything else.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can talk about one job in isolation.
Speaker 3: Often it is related to other things. Everything you do
Speaker 3: in your career will feed into the confidence that you
Speaker 3: have the knowledge about the industry, that you have the
Speaker 3: knowledge about yourself going eh, I'm not enjoying this, or
Speaker 3: I know what I need to do to kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, connect a bit better. So it's all, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a body of living in a body of work.
Speaker 1: Well, your chemistry between you and Brian and Curvis, which
Speaker 1: is just absolutely amazing. It feels very iconic. I'm very
Speaker 1: old school television and so I see like the relationship
Speaker 1: of you know, the TV relationship with like Ernie and
Speaker 1: Denise or Darryl and Jackie McDonald, like it's very it
Speaker 1: feels very real, and it feels like real people that
Speaker 1: get along. You know, how does that? How did that
Speaker 1: chemistry work? I mean, did that just click straight away?
Speaker 2: Was that it.
Speaker 3: Didn't click straight away because we were still strangers to
Speaker 3: each other, and I reckon by series three you can
Speaker 3: start to see that there's there's a connection. And then
Speaker 3: when we went on tour, I have to say, going
Speaker 3: on tour, traveling, sharing buses, sharing backstage, not knowing how
Speaker 3: the show would work live because we've never done it before.
Speaker 3: Would we feel Darwin, would we fill Canberra, would we
Speaker 3: fill blues Fest?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden you really saw people's true selves.
Speaker 3: You know, we were around each other the whole time,
Speaker 3: the whole man. And I really think that twenty ten
Speaker 3: first tour where we went everywhere, really solidified our friendship
Speaker 3: and our working relationship. And now I mean now Brian
Speaker 3: and the other two producers, I mean they are like
Speaker 3: older brothers. There's no doubt he's a brother from another mother, definitely,
Speaker 3: and I think we're quite similar in style in some ways. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't sort of see it until a few years in,
Speaker 3: but I think we are. We're both very generous, I
Speaker 3: think with the audience. And also, you know, he's someone
Speaker 3: whenever I think to myself, whenever I'm somewhere that I'm
Speaker 3: annoyed or a bit shitty with someone, or you're in public,
Speaker 3: can you thinking? I always think, what would Brian do?
Speaker 3: He'd just be patient a little bit longer, wouldn't he
Speaker 3: He'd just have a little bit more of a chat
Speaker 3: and he'd diffused the situation, and he'd get the selfie
Speaker 3: and he'd go. And I think that stuff is right,
Speaker 3: you know. And he trained as a school teacher, so
Speaker 3: that's where his patients comes from.
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch him on Let the Blood Run Free?
Speaker 1: Because I remember that was like absolutely, I was so obsessed.
Speaker 2: With that show.
Speaker 1: But I would have been like eight, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't I think, oh, maybe I was ten. I
Speaker 1: think it's ninety ninety that show was out. But I
Speaker 1: just remember being so obsessed and asking Mum to let
Speaker 1: me stay up and watch it. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of reality before it's time because people could
Speaker 1: vote on what could happen.
Speaker 2: You know, it was the Tuesday your own adventure.
Speaker 3: It also reminded me slightly of I don't know why,
Speaker 3: maybe because it was surgical masks and it was over
Speaker 3: the top and it was nuts. It reminded me of
Speaker 3: rocky Horror. Yeah, the music.
Speaker 1: Actually, I was going to say as well, I think
Speaker 1: your guests that have been picked this year, so whoever's
Speaker 1: done the booking for the guests phenomenal because I love
Speaker 1: Tina Arena and they don't mind having a bold opinion
Speaker 1: of themselves, and I think that suits this show. You know,
Speaker 1: like think quite often you could be like, who are
Speaker 1: we going to get to do? Who's our special guests?
Speaker 1: And they don't fit, you know what I mean? Where
Speaker 1: these people all fit the rock Quiz brand very well.
Speaker 3: And then you've got some like Jimmy Barnes, who you know,
Speaker 3: has been in a band like Cold Chisel that I mean,
Speaker 3: even though they were a huge band, I always feel
Speaker 3: like they're a bit indie as well in their own
Speaker 3: way because their music was so I mean, the songwriting
Speaker 3: so good in that you know, it's such great work
Speaker 3: from that whole band. And then his own big career,
Speaker 3: he's quite mainstream in some ways, and yet he fits
Speaker 3: in the show completely as well. And then he got
Speaker 3: Meg Mack, who is a pretty quiet person but she
Speaker 3: fits into the show as well. And also it's about
Speaker 3: who you pair them up with and about again making
Speaker 3: that guest feel feel comfortable as well. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: were and of course, you know, you always have a
Speaker 3: wish list, and we really wanted Ella the Hooper on
Speaker 3: the show because Ella was in the beginning almost not
Speaker 3: the first episode, she was in the pilot and she's
Speaker 3: been a lifelong friend of the show, so we couldn't
Speaker 3: have done that season without her. We adore her.
Speaker 2: I could talk to you absolutely forever.
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully one day we'll talk about you know,
Speaker 1: Fisk and all the other other amazing things in your life.
Speaker 1: But before you go, everyone who joins the podcast, I
Speaker 1: ask people, what's something from behind the scenes, something that
Speaker 1: we as an audience will never know, kind of like
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes secret of your time making rockquiz.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes. Oh look, you know we used to
Speaker 3: shoot two shows in a row. There were big days,
Speaker 3: two half hour shows and in the one night, so
Speaker 3: costume change. You know, you're sweating, you're getting cooled down
Speaker 3: so that you're getting padded down. Getting to the other thing.
Speaker 3: You're all kind of Nancy gamsd up, trying to fit
Speaker 3: into everything. And I had this tiny little change room.
Speaker 3: My wardrobe mistress is there, and the first show I
Speaker 3: camera who we had on. But the second show, Susi
Speaker 3: Ktro was going to be on the show and I'm
Speaker 3: literally in my underwear and she burst the door, burst
Speaker 3: up and comes and he goes, where are we starting?
Speaker 3: When's the show out?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 3: Come on? Come on? Where do you go?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm literally only the host, I'm not produced
Speaker 3: im and my rather undattractive Nancy business. Do you want
Speaker 3: to come on? I mean I'm ready. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: sure you are, lady, but would you just make your
Speaker 3: way out and you will be seen to now she
Speaker 3: was a bit jet lagged, et cetera. And look she
Speaker 3: gave a great show. And she was on with Chris
Speaker 3: Chaney from Living End, who will also be on this
Speaker 3: new season of Foxtown. So it's a beautiful round mate.
Speaker 3: But yeah, to have Susi Quatcho, who you you know,
Speaker 3: used to love Leather Trespadero on The Happy Days with
Speaker 3: contin bloody hell lady naked.
Speaker 1: All right, joyat This has been a highlight for me,
Speaker 1: like I have looked over and looked off the screen,
Speaker 1: and I've had to pinch myself a number of times
Speaker 1: because the sisters been so Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your generosity with your time, and you know I'll always
Speaker 1: be in your audience.
Speaker 3: Oh and i will always be in your sight lines.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ben