Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's flexing Rooms on the catch up podcast. Hey girls,
Speaker 2: today we're talking about Flex's privacy. If you're a follow
Speaker 2: up of Flex, which I'm sure you are, you would
Speaker 2: have seen her rant and her rave on her story
Speaker 2: give little examples screenshops of people messages which as a
Speaker 2: viewer of your Instagram for many years, nothing tickles my
Speaker 2: fancy more than you roasting people in the story. But
Speaker 2: I must say, if I was that used.
Speaker 3: To be my go to now I'm Hanny subtle and
Speaker 3: sweet on the internet.
Speaker 2: If I was in the roast, if I was in
Speaker 2: the roast from you, like, that's got to hit different.
Speaker 2: I want to just apologize. I can't apologize on your behalf.
Speaker 2: But you know, don't have a panic attack over this.
Speaker 2: I get panic attacks when people even have a whisper
Speaker 2: of our criticism on me. So if you've found yourself
Speaker 2: in the firing line, no, it comes from a place
Speaker 2: of love or just do better.
Speaker 3: I mean, I often feel as though people just lose
Speaker 3: their sense when they're interacting, not just with me, like
Speaker 3: look at a TikTok comment, look at some of the
Speaker 3: rogue stuff that just happens eventually you kind of get
Speaker 3: met with the energy you're bringing into the into the room.
Speaker 3: It's just what the consequence of that action. And also
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know how when you see a
Speaker 3: video on any kind of platform, there's an obvious thing
Speaker 3: that happens and everybody points it out. It's like dog piling,
Speaker 3: so like maybe they've misspelled a word in the headline.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, it's you know, colors with you, not without
Speaker 3: you or something, But every single comment saying it, that's
Speaker 3: the issue. Like I had already posted about this window situation,
Speaker 3: and everybody after it, I'm like, it's fair game. I'm
Speaker 3: coming for you in particular because what is bring back
Speaker 3: violence is where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's how I'm gonna stop. That's definitely a joke
Speaker 2: for the legal team here at TITA and AAR and
Speaker 2: more broadly, let's get to it.
Speaker 3: And you know we've talked about quiet quitting before, right,
Speaker 3: It's this craze all over the internet at the moment.
Speaker 3: Contrary to what the name suggests, it's not when you
Speaker 3: actually quietly quit your job. It's when you mentally kind
Speaker 3: of check out, you start doing bare minimum. You don't
Speaker 3: break your back at your workplace because you've experienced mental
Speaker 3: health issues or burnout, or just realize that the amount
Speaker 3: of hours you're putting in is not really realistic or
Speaker 3: fair for the amount of money you're getting in return. Right,
Speaker 3: And so I guess it started around COVID where people
Speaker 3: were recognizing work life balance and also seeing that they
Speaker 3: maybe aren't being treated so fairly by their employers and
Speaker 3: have to take matters into their own hand. If my
Speaker 3: employer isn't going to be mindful of what I need
Speaker 3: to be mentally healthy and sound, I gotta do it.
Speaker 3: It's giving bright, I gotta step down. So when I
Speaker 3: first heard of this term, I was like, this feels
Speaker 3: like a nice concept, right, this idea that you can
Speaker 3: just pull back away from your duties and that nobody
Speaker 3: will notice and that'll be your almost like rebellion against
Speaker 3: the man, against the big dog, against the boss. Right,
Speaker 3: But realistically I'm thinking, will that just get you fired?
Speaker 2: H But FLEXI, it's so hard to fire someone in Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is hard. I mean, you have to manage
Speaker 3: somebody out, but it is possible. Like, realistically speaking, if
Speaker 3: I worked at a workplace I started checking out, I'm
Speaker 3: not working to the standard I was before, maybe not
Speaker 3: submitting things on time, maybe not staying late taking my
Speaker 3: full lunch hour. If for some reason that was going
Speaker 3: to be flagged as irresponsible behavior at the workplace, somebody
Speaker 3: can and would manage you out, like you're not going
Speaker 3: to get fired off the dome, but you could be jobless.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just get something straight. And this is going
Speaker 2: to sound perhaps a little bit ill informed. Oh, but
Speaker 2: it has to be said. Okay, Number one, don't stay
Speaker 2: past five thirty.
Speaker 3: You needed to finish work at nine point thirty. Now
Speaker 3: we're talking about hoste o'clock and off at five.
Speaker 2: Said I'm gonna go do that. Don't come in early
Speaker 2: if they say you need to coming early. Once I
Speaker 2: did a job and I was and they said you
Speaker 2: have to come in before nine am. That's when I started.
Speaker 2: Come in at eight. Get across the news. You have
Speaker 2: to come in already, knowing what's going on the news.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I'll do it. Little did I know? No,
Speaker 2: you start at nine for a reason. There's morning editors.
Speaker 2: You don't need to come in an hour early. Go
Speaker 2: back in your box. Third of all, take the hour.
Speaker 2: What you need to do when you start in a
Speaker 2: workplace is set boundaries very early on. You don't want
Speaker 2: to be the person that's working really hard. If you
Speaker 2: come in and you're kind of like a little bit behind,
Speaker 2: a little bit slow, people are going to assume that's
Speaker 2: your role and work around you. Yes, I don't want
Speaker 2: my colleagues to work more than me, like I don't
Speaker 2: want them to have to shoulder the load. No, But
Speaker 2: at the same time, if I'm working for another person
Speaker 2: that's not myself, these things need to be considered.
Speaker 3: But what about people who are currently in jobs and
Speaker 3: roles though, Like I think people who experience burnout usually
Speaker 3: are in the role for a couple of years, maybe
Speaker 3: a couple of months. You're settled, and they're like, Okay, whoa,
Speaker 3: this is a lot more than I bargained for. I'm
Speaker 3: having to really extend myself just to scrape by.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I remember working office and feeling like I could never
Speaker 3: get ahead of my schedule, like every single day. It
Speaker 3: wasn't that I wanted to stay back, but I had
Speaker 3: to do this amount of work and because I couldn't,
Speaker 3: like what am I meant to do? Because tomorrow there's
Speaker 3: a new batch work that comes and a new batch.
Speaker 3: I could not help but think, like my issue at
Speaker 3: the time wasn't that my mentality was wrong, that I
Speaker 3: physically did not have the support I needed to do
Speaker 3: the job properly when I was breaking my back and
Speaker 3: going to put in less effort. I feel like in
Speaker 3: the short term it only ruins your day a little
Speaker 3: bit because anyone's like, what's happening, You're changing, Your boss
Speaker 3: is calling in for one on ones. We've noticed that
Speaker 3: so and so and so on. I don't. I guess
Speaker 3: the concept of quite quitting would make more sense to
Speaker 3: me if it was like, Hey, look at your work
Speaker 3: more rationally. Are you overcompensating, have you asked for support?
Speaker 3: Are you acting your wage? You know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 3: is the effort you're putting in conducive to what you're
Speaker 3: getting out for it? And if not, maybe get a
Speaker 3: new job. Because this idea of like how much can
Speaker 3: you withstand bloody behavior in a job that has expectations
Speaker 3: of you? A person couldn't do it. But that's why
Speaker 3: I'm capitalism handmaid and I'm built different.
Speaker 2: Also, if your boss is mean to you, yeah, this
Speaker 2: isn't this is not normal. If you're in your first
Speaker 2: job or your second job, when you're like managers always
Speaker 2: mean reassess. I promise you it doesn't always have to
Speaker 2: be like that. Get the union in literally, don't make
Speaker 2: me say it twice. I've gotta be careful with my
Speaker 2: union chat because one day I might have employees and
Speaker 2: I'm like, do not join the union.
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I've got employees. Ask for what
Speaker 3: you need, Bob.
Speaker 2: It's very nice of you, Flex and Frooms, Flexi. I
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a dilemma for you. It's
Speaker 2: not personal.
Speaker 3: It never is.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you save my personal things for my own financial
Speaker 2: gain of course, of course, but this one is from
Speaker 2: a woman who is going to a different UNI to
Speaker 2: her partner. So it's a high schooler. I love that
Speaker 2: we have gen Z high schooler.
Speaker 3: Human eye.
Speaker 2: It's like a dog. I'm not saying it's a boy
Speaker 2: or a girl. It's a it. I want to get
Speaker 2: straight into it. This is what she's written in. My
Speaker 2: boyfriend and I are going to different unis after high school,
Speaker 2: and I'm worried it will break us up. You're not wrong,
Speaker 2: con Flex and Firms, please help me. My boyfriend and
Speaker 2: I are about to graduate year twelve. We've been together
Speaker 2: for a year and a half and we're going to
Speaker 2: UNI's on the other side of the city. I know
Speaker 2: we can see each other outside of this, but I've
Speaker 2: been doing research, and only two percent of high school
Speaker 2: relationships work out sight the study.
Speaker 5: Babe.
Speaker 2: I'm also a really jealous person, and I'm worried about
Speaker 2: him making friends with girls and becoming interested in them instead.
Speaker 2: What should I do? Before you answer that, I'll just
Speaker 2: ask you, do you have a boyfriend in high school? No?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: My initial opinion is hun, You're not wrong. Two percent like.
Speaker 3: Thought to be much lower, to be honest, but you
Speaker 3: could be the exception to the rule. Your love might
Speaker 3: stand the test of time.
Speaker 2: We found love in a hopeless place, just the school bathrooms.
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?
Speaker 2: It's a yes from me, dog, It's a yes from me, brev.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. When you're in high school,
Speaker 2: you haven't even finished growing. Like I know that when
Speaker 2: you're twenty five, your frontal cortex or whatever is like
Speaker 2: it's completed.
Speaker 3: The Sarah bellum.
Speaker 2: It's fully loaded. And so until then, you're changing, You're
Speaker 2: going through puberty, you're going through other changes, body changes,
Speaker 2: mind changes, friendship changes. I mean I think you should
Speaker 2: part ways while you're still into each other and then
Speaker 2: do it ben affleck Jennifer Jennifer Lopez and arrive back
Speaker 2: when you're thirty.
Speaker 3: It's you're not the whole thing, Like they're not thirty.
Speaker 2: If we haven't no, no, when they get thirty.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Like you know when you're like, oh, if we don't
Speaker 2: find anyone by the time we're thirty, we can walk
Speaker 2: up and a desperation tactics.
Speaker 3: You have that consolation prize. Yeah. Look, I say write
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: Till it really hurts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? How obviously she's done her research. She's
Speaker 3: letting fear and scarcity dictate whether or not they should
Speaker 3: stay together. Just let it run its natural course. When
Speaker 3: it's too difficult for you to be together, to preck up.
Speaker 3: But for now you're doing enjoyment.
Speaker 2: So enjoy Oh that's quite nice advice.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, right, like maybe like maybe eight more months
Speaker 3: left in you enjoy them. Yeah, crank it knowing that
Speaker 3: it's going to come to an end eventually, but for
Speaker 3: now it hasn't.
Speaker 2: And just know perhaps it's your first sexual partner. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we're gonna leave there. But of course his chat is
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Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on kDa.
Speaker 2: Have you been to a wedding recently?
Speaker 3: I have not. The last wedding I went to was
Speaker 3: my brothers and that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 3: And before then I was a child at weddings, which
Speaker 3: is very annoying. It definitely was not invited the plus
Speaker 3: four for my mum. She's ICOP for one and the
Speaker 3: whole family's rocked out.
Speaker 2: Liz, you know that's not good wedding hygiene. But also,
Speaker 2: hell yeah, you guys a little cutie, so bring along.
Speaker 2: My friend sent me this voice note completely out of
Speaker 2: the blue the other day, so I'm just going to play.
Speaker 2: It involves a wedding in Chile. I love that people
Speaker 2: know what I'd.
Speaker 3: Like literally contact curation off the dough boy, mate.
Speaker 4: I was at this word the other day in San
Speaker 4: fran and I heard a story that I thought you'd love.
Speaker 4: So a friend of mine went to this wedding in
Speaker 4: Chile recently and it was a boring, normal chiant wedding,
Speaker 4: you know, nothing to write about.
Speaker 5: She was kind of like, you know, a bit bored
Speaker 5: of the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Anyway, at about eleven, the music almost cuts and the.
Speaker 5: Shrek theme song comes on right blasts out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: A lady dressed as Fiona comes out with his big
Speaker 4: sign above her head that says shots.
Speaker 5: And starts handing out shots to everyone.
Speaker 4: And there's a dude in like a Shrek costume like
Speaker 4: coming in handing out like those balloons and make balloon
Speaker 4: animals out of and gives like one hundred of them out,
Speaker 4: and everyone goes, it's crazy. Everyone's dancing anyway, and then
Speaker 4: it's almost like as soon as it starts, it stops
Speaker 4: like an hour later, and it just goes back to
Speaker 4: the boring wedding.
Speaker 5: And my friend was just stunned. She was like, what
Speaker 5: just happened?
Speaker 4: And she's asking for people and people go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's crazier she's what's crazier, and like at weddings,
Speaker 4: it's a thing where they kind of inject a bit
Speaker 4: of fun and just.
Speaker 5: Do something insane for an hour. It's live and up
Speaker 5: the party.
Speaker 4: Genius idea and thought you'd absolutely love it.
Speaker 3: A bit of a performance art, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Literally? And I'm seeing photos and the Shrek is so uncanny.
Speaker 2: It's like a first amen.
Speaker 3: There are those balloons. Honestly, it's genius. It would make
Speaker 3: the biggest difference because I don't think the average person
Speaker 3: could sustain and entertaining wedding the whole time.
Speaker 2: You gotta have budget ebb and flow.
Speaker 3: Like maybe the speeches are a little bit funny and
Speaker 3: then it gets sentimental for the first dance. But if
Speaker 3: it's funny, funny, funny, funny, we taken the piss. We're
Speaker 3: just gagging there. That is hilarious. Would you do it
Speaker 3: one hundred percent my wedding to be a garden wedding
Speaker 3: for the ceremony, then go to a small space.
Speaker 2: Always want it to be smaller and more cramped and larger, larger,
Speaker 2: And you look and they're all on that dance floor
Speaker 2: in like a brand new building. I'm so righthn small, intimate,
Speaker 2: crazy music. We're giving eighties music, early two thousand's music.
Speaker 2: David Wedder. Yeah, so that's a vibe.
Speaker 3: I love that so much. Look, there's so much I
Speaker 3: can go wrong in a wedding. I feel like most
Speaker 3: weddings are doomed to be terrible because you get people
Speaker 3: who've never planned an event in their life trying to
Speaker 3: plan the one of a century. You don't have, You
Speaker 3: don't have the skills. Shade though, no shade.
Speaker 2: Also, things that you don't budget for are very like
Speaker 2: technical things, not just flowers, but other things. I'm personally
Speaker 2: going to be getting my friend Jordiana Johnson to be
Speaker 2: doing my wedding. She's a producer and a director. If
Speaker 2: you want to use her for an event, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3: I won't be caught spending you know, a bag on flowers.
Speaker 2: So I don't get it.
Speaker 3: People need to be you know what I love. There's
Speaker 3: this florus that does like fruit and vegetable installation displays
Speaker 3: like real spooky that is better to me than a
Speaker 3: bunch of roses that are going to die in six hours.
Speaker 2: Like super pero. I don't know what that is. If
Speaker 2: you get it, you get.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, okay, this is flex and frumes.
Speaker 3: According to the Journal of Motivation and Emotion.
Speaker 1: Hmmm mmm checked.
Speaker 3: I'd never to be reviewed. Falling in love makes you
Speaker 3: less productive. When you are consumed by thoughts of your beloved,
Speaker 3: your ability to concentrate and perform the tasks is likely
Speaker 3: to diminish.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean, don't fall in love?
Speaker 3: Po Yeah, if you want to be a capitalist queen,
Speaker 3: you know what to do.
Speaker 2: Interesting I mean, I'm I'm of the opinion that productivity
Speaker 2: should be banished, that it's actually a con and I'd
Speaker 2: rather not be productive. So I'm personally waiting to fall
Speaker 2: in love because right now I'm not very produc but
Speaker 2: I have no excuse.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, get it. So if anybody wants to send
Speaker 3: in any application for Frumi's reason for lack of productivity,
Speaker 3: send it to frooms with three zero's no three ho's
Speaker 3: on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Have you experienced that though?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of course would you like that right now in the
Speaker 2: time of your career? Are you looking for lovelighter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about to fall eleven o'clock off, like I
Speaker 3: can't do two things at once. I'm so sorry. So
Speaker 3: we've got six more months of the show.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kita.
Speaker 3: Miss Rumini. You know I moved into a new apartment
Speaker 3: a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Ago, Now I sure do. I've been loving seeing you
Speaker 2: get in there.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely gorgeous. I'm spending a bag on it. It
Speaker 3: feels good. I've elevated in the world. But with this
Speaker 3: elevation has come maybe a new mentality for how I
Speaker 3: posted the internet now. Four hourss ago, I was that
Speaker 3: influencer who was doing house tours room tours showing a
Speaker 3: layout of my home, showing identifiable areas, because I was like,
Speaker 3: who would even care to know who I am or
Speaker 3: where I go? What would anybody do with this information?
Speaker 3: Then what started happening is that people would know exactly
Speaker 3: where I lived, or would be able to guess it
Speaker 3: quite quite well based on landmarks or just the type
Speaker 3: of trees or the streets or the bins or whatever
Speaker 3: it might be. And so with the next house I
Speaker 3: moved into, I didn't do any kind of like house
Speaker 3: related room to a type of content. I kept it
Speaker 3: to diys and general day course stuff. But I was
Speaker 3: very mindful not to disclose anything, not where the suburb
Speaker 3: was not how many bedrooms it had nothing. Yes, next house,
Speaker 3: I got even more stringent with it. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not even risking it because what happened
Speaker 3: is I was selling things on Facebook marketplace and people
Speaker 3: get coming into my house because I knew who I
Speaker 3: was and just wanted to like come and have a
Speaker 3: look basically, and then would be like, oh, gonna went
Speaker 3: to Flex's house. It was like this, Or I would
Speaker 3: order Uber Eats and then the drive would recognize me
Speaker 3: and be like hey, like I'm a big fan. I'd
Speaker 3: be like, you're in my house, please leave. And so
Speaker 3: with this new apartment, I've gone the next step, like
Speaker 3: I do not try. I don't film in the day.
Speaker 3: I try and film only in closed rooms or on
Speaker 3: blank walls where it's just not identifiable at all. And
Speaker 3: recently people have been sending me messages like this, I'm
Speaker 3: convinced you live underground or something because I have not
Speaker 3: seen sunlight in your new home, or someone else said, oh,
Speaker 3: I've also wanted about this. I assumed it was so
Speaker 3: people on the internet can't directly identify your location. But
Speaker 3: do you mean like you just want privacy? Like why
Speaker 3: are you hiding it, and I think it's really strange
Speaker 3: that people are even clocking this number one, this whole idea, like,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen sunlight, I haven't seen windows, I haven't
Speaker 3: seen anything that would give me any identification on where
Speaker 3: you live, because I didn't realize that me being more
Speaker 3: private was clockable to a general audience. Right, and then
Speaker 3: somebody sent me the most bizarre message. And this is
Speaker 3: after receiving maybe ten messages in a row in the
Speaker 3: same day about this window thing. I posted a bit
Speaker 3: of content from my house and hobite that's getting renovated,
Speaker 3: and somebody responded and said, hey, flex, speaking of lights,
Speaker 3: what's the matter with windows in your new space? I
Speaker 3: haven't seen any daylight yet. Don't you have any sad face?
Speaker 2: I'm this sad face just for context, is the one
Speaker 2: that like you put your two index I sad face?
Speaker 3: And then I was like, I have had it, you idiots.
Speaker 3: I'm so shut up, you bloody dummies. Anyway, I said,
Speaker 3: wouldn't you sooner believe that I just haven't filmed in
Speaker 3: the day and that I don't have windows. Why would
Speaker 3: this exposed be premium marble everywhere house not have windows?
Speaker 2: You bit back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I don't understand the logic or
Speaker 3: the question faintest concern, and then I was like, stop
Speaker 3: asking me dumb questions. I crop that one out because
Speaker 3: that was just swap. That was for her, that wasn't
Speaker 3: for but it's just dumb. I remember when I used
Speaker 3: to complain about getting silly messages. People would be like,
Speaker 3: people just want to connect with you, like they just
Speaker 3: want to like chat to you and have their experience.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, come correct or don't come at all
Speaker 3: because you kissing me. But it doesn't stop there. I
Speaker 3: ended up doing, you know, customarily a whole rant about
Speaker 3: the situation with receipts following that message. Naturally, I just
Speaker 3: come from a little lunch. From that point, I made
Speaker 3: an Instagram story and I said something to the effect
Speaker 3: of it would be condescending for me to say, use
Speaker 3: your critical thinking skills like it would. I don't want
Speaker 3: to be that person on the internet, right However, However,
Speaker 3: I just don't understand, Like it's one thing to you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen any windows, That's all good. I'm like,
Speaker 3: but follow that thought, like you haven't seen any windows
Speaker 3: because you want to what and then you want to
Speaker 3: do what with that information? And you want to do
Speaker 3: what with it? And I was just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Ashton Kutch's kitchen, but I assume he
Speaker 3: has one. You know, I haven't seen Dojakat's bathroom, but
Speaker 3: I assume she has one. This idea that you like
Speaker 3: your curiosity for more information to pay a clear picture,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it, like it's all good. And also
Speaker 3: I don't think people have been quite mindful of the
Speaker 3: implications of like, you know, having a public profile and
Speaker 3: being so accessible, like not just virtually accessible, but like
Speaker 3: the fact that people like You've even had instances of
Speaker 3: people have asked you like where does flex live?
Speaker 2: Like what somebod does she live in?
Speaker 3: It's like there's natural curiosity, and then there's extending outside
Speaker 3: of what is a natural curiosity for an unnatural one.
Speaker 3: If we had added an interaction before and we'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've just come from home. Oh cool, where do you live?
Speaker 3: Great or good? But random people on the internet being like, well,
Speaker 3: I would never do anything crazy with that information. I
Speaker 3: would never say anything. I'm just curious, like why wouldn't
Speaker 3: you show me where you live? Why would I, you know,
Speaker 3: what's so spooky? I also had to have a big
Speaker 3: I would say it was a scolding to pr agencies
Speaker 3: in particular. So I'm not sure if everybody's across this,
Speaker 3: but a lot of influencers, content creators, public figures will
Speaker 3: get sent free stuff, which is amazing. We love a freebie.
Speaker 3: But in order for you to get this free stuff,
Speaker 3: somebody has to know your address right and send it
Speaker 3: to you, and so often you might have a PO
Speaker 3: box instead. But a lot of these PR companies won't
Speaker 3: send PR boxes because they want to, you know, get
Speaker 3: a courier, make it nice or whatever. And so you'll
Speaker 3: give an agency your address for this one thing, you know,
Speaker 3: like oh for this one lip gloss, you can have
Speaker 3: my address. But then what these agencies will do is
Speaker 3: that they'll just pass it to anybody in the agency
Speaker 3: because they want to send you this thing or this thing.
Speaker 3: And then before you know it, random people just have
Speaker 3: access to your address. And the issue is they're not random,
Speaker 3: they're industry contacts. So now people who have context for
Speaker 3: you know, your lifestyle, have your address and also no
Speaker 3: privacy around that. The way they're holding that information, it's insane.
Speaker 3: Remember this instance where I sold something on Facebook marketplace
Speaker 3: and it was this chair. This person was like, can
Speaker 3: I unassemble the chair before I take it out the house?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh yeah, cool, like whatever. So
Speaker 3: I was like, I just need to take a call,
Speaker 3: like really really badly though, So can I just leave
Speaker 3: you in this front area or like outside in like
Speaker 3: the corridor kind of because like I wasn't expecting you
Speaker 3: to be doing like disassemblies, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool.
Speaker 3: So I'm closed the door. I'm having this conversation. It
Speaker 3: was like a really important meeting. So I was like
Speaker 3: I couldn't not take it, but they couldn't actually get
Speaker 3: the chair out of the door, so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you deal with it anyway. I get a message from
Speaker 3: this person a couple months later, Oh you know when
Speaker 3: you're having the call, like you know, you sounded really xyz,
Speaker 3: like really assertive, like a business person. And then I
Speaker 3: was like looking around your house and I realized I recognized,
Speaker 3: like you're inside. I saw like something with your name
Speaker 3: on it, So I googled you and realized I recognized
Speaker 3: you and the Internet and all this whole thing about
Speaker 3: how like from literally being in my house and like
Speaker 3: essentially snooping. They were like oh, and then I was
Speaker 3: like overhearing what you were saying about social media, and
Speaker 3: I just get so crazy and like, now I've followed
Speaker 3: you for ages. Now I'm a fan, very foul so
Speaker 3: in the time since they started following you, and then yes,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you don't. You don't hear yourself. You
Speaker 3: don't hear yourself.
Speaker 2: The PR company is a very interesting thing. I've had
Speaker 2: similar things, like when I started getting stuff sent to
Speaker 2: me years ago, my manager was like, no, you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to give your address out, like she would like
Speaker 2: actually get angry at me if I did. And also
Speaker 2: with my phone number, like she won't let me give
Speaker 2: my phone number out, like because she does some work
Speaker 2: with you as well, like don't give our phone numbers out.
Speaker 2: And it's a very interesting thing. But then yeah, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like you have one experience that really rocks you,
Speaker 2: Like for example, when my car got broken into and
Speaker 2: was burnt, you have to think, like, is this a
Speaker 2: targeted attack? And I know that sounds paranoid, but we
Speaker 2: have friends in the industry that have been stalked, Like
Speaker 2: people get stalked, and it's very hard to like think
Speaker 2: about when you're not when you can't imagine.
Speaker 3: It, or to assume of the exception to the rule,
Speaker 3: Like yes, I live a public life and post everything
Speaker 3: on the intept, but nobody ever stalk me. I'm different.
Speaker 2: No babes and even like paparazzi's like people that get
Speaker 2: peparazzi near their house. I'm like, if you're in the
Speaker 2: BONDI are Bronti Surry Hill's Paddington area. I know the
Speaker 2: exact straight you're on. I know we live now, Like,
Speaker 2: surely there's got to be some legalities around that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's praying for you. Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope it doesn't escalate. But don't worry. I'm
Speaker 3: in the front lines fighting. Oh yeah, everyone get some
Speaker 3: of this mouth. Feel free to unfollow a block because
Speaker 3: it's game over, not with my personal safety, with.
Speaker 2: My proud of you pulled up your boundaries, hunt Per.
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