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Speaker 1: This morning, we're bringing you the breaking news that way

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Speaker 1: and the entire country has been waiting for little Cleo

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Speaker 1: Smith has been found and she's alive.

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Speaker 2: It's my privilege to announce that in the early hours

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Speaker 2: of this morning, the Western Australian Police Force rescued Cleo Smith.

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Speaker 2: Cleo is alive and well. One of the officers picked

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Speaker 2: her up into his arms and asked her, what's your name?

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Speaker 2: She said, my name is Cleo. This is the outcome

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Speaker 2: we all hoped and prayed for.

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Speaker 3: Before we start the podcast this morning, can we just

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Speaker 3: have a huge round of applause, a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a celebration for the West Australian Police and the fact

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Speaker 3: that Cleo Smith.

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Speaker 4: Has been found reunited with her family.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine being reunited after not knowing for more

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Speaker 3: than two weeks, nearly three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think I have the capacity of allowing

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Speaker 1: myself to feel what that would feel like. No, it

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Speaker 1: just it's a parent's worst nightmare.

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Speaker 3: So all day yesterday I was getting phone calls, especially

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Speaker 3: after I mean we did the Stranger Day and a

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Speaker 3: social media was blowing up in terms of how we

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Speaker 3: I love this quote from one of the police officers

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Speaker 3: amazing moment. Suddenly after hearing that, we were on such

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Speaker 3: a high. It was fantastic. When I say hearing that,

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Speaker 3: I mean when they said what is your name and

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Speaker 3: she said, my name is clear, my name is Cleo.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine and all the reports say unharmed.

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Speaker 4: Wow wow, So.

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Speaker 1: I feel good story after what could have been absolutely tragic.

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Speaker 3: What a wonderful blessing. Now let's get on with the podcast.

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Speaker 5: It's that Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

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Speaker 5: time poor parent who just once answers.

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Speaker 3: Now, but the most disciplined people, the people who are

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Speaker 3: most efficient, most effective, most productive, the ones who get

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Speaker 5: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

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Speaker 5: and Dad.

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Speaker 3: I am just hooked. I know that I'm in the show.

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Speaker 3: I know that I was part of the whole filming thing.

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Speaker 3: I know how it all happens, and yet watching Parental

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Speaker 3: Guidance on Channel nine has just been I'm absolutely hawked.

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Speaker 3: How good was last night?

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Speaker 6: I wasn't really sure whether the children would eat the

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Speaker 1: When you came home, you showed me tiny little snippets

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Speaker 1: of things.

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't even supposed to show you them. Sorry

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Speaker 1: You're listening, but honestly, you and I we've been sitting

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Speaker 3: We mute the ads, and the kids just don't stop

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Speaker 3: talking to us about parenting. It's amazing, so much fun.

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Speaker 3: My name is doctor Justin Colson. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 3: the host or co host, I should say i'm parenting expert.

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Speaker 3: I I nearly took Ali Langdon's job. I'm not the host,

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Speaker 3: nine's Parental guidance another couple of weeks of action there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm here with Kylie, my wife of more than

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Speaker 1: My husband before you were ever a co host. Just

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Speaker 3: out of home and living life as adults. We need

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Speaker 3: to talk about last night's show, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: There was so much in last night.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying the show, because if you're not,

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Speaker 3: do better. So, well, let's start with the beach tent.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start with the beach tent.

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Speaker 5: Dam just don't but I was mom going good Nah.

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Speaker 7: Seriously, the only thing I can do is sit here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how funny was it that the family that live

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Speaker 8: Family photos are generally quite hard work to get them

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Speaker 3: Yep. This morning our take on the marshmallow challenge. We

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Speaker 7: We'll be back soon to decorate, so everybody will just

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Speaker 7: We've always tried to encourage discussion with her.

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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 9: Imagine a home where discipline got results without anyone having

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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast, The podcast for the time

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Speaker 1: Today we've been talking about self control, splash our.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, you promised you've got seven tips.

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Speaker 3: It's the first one. We're going to go through them quickly.

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Speaker 3: The first one is out of sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 3: I will on your own. What we're saying about self

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Speaker 1: want to help our children learn self control.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Our example, that was actually the last one, the seventh

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Speaker 3: of seven things on my list, thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: was Yeah, being a model, because if we fly off

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Speaker 3: the handle, guess what we teach.

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Speaker 4: The kids that it's okay to fly off the handle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: And what about if your cupboards full of chocolate?

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Speaker 3: My cupbod's not full of chocolate. You can go over

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Speaker 3: there and have a look. I promise you there's no

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Speaker 3: You ate it all ages ago when I decided that

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Speaker 3: I was going to have more control and not buy

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Speaker 3: it and put it in the cupboard. I promise you

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Speaker 3: there's no chocolate in the cupboard.

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Speaker 4: That's because you buy it and eat it before you

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Speaker 4: come home. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I promise you. I don't even like chocolate much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's wrap up. We've got a couple

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Speaker 1: of nights where we can go to bed early. Parental

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Speaker 1: Guidance isn't airing again until next Monday.

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Speaker 3: Wait for next Monday night.

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Speaker 4: Look at our kids?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, no chocolate, by the way, too much

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Speaker 3: chocolate this week around the Parental Guidance television set.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully this has given you a bunch of ideas

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Speaker 1: on how you can help your kids develop self control.

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Speaker 3: Maybe even you, Oh thank you for that. I was

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