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Speaker 1: update on the situation is the Health Minister Natasha Files.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Minister, Good.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Katie, Good morning Katie. Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now Filesy give us the latest on this COVID update

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Speaker 1: the hot spots.

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Speaker 2: What is the latest advice to territorians.

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Speaker 3: So presently we have a hot spot declaration for the

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Speaker 3: Greatest Sydney Metropolitan Area which also includes the Illawarra and

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Speaker 3: the Central Coast, and this is based off the Northern

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Speaker 3: Beaches cluster and we saw those numbers this time last

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Speaker 3: week we barely had any cases and they rose sharply

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. We did have to make that tough

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Speaker 3: decision on Sunday afternoon to declare the broader hot spot,

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Speaker 3: which we know impacted people and has ruined some people's

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Speaker 3: Christmas plans. But we must take steps to keep territory

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Speaker 3: in space. This morning, how Chief Health Office will participate

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Speaker 3: will reconvene to decide what next steps. Do we need

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Speaker 1: Do we have any idea in Sydney today if the

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Speaker 3: Soon, Katie. I think those numbers would just be getting

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Speaker 3: released now. I understand that they provide them at eleven

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Speaker 3: which is right now. I haven't seen those statistics, but

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Speaker 3: I'll wait for the advice to come through those formal channels.

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Speaker 3: very low case numbers. But it's also the information behind

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Speaker 3: these statistics, Katie. So far we've seen it very much

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Speaker 3: linked to the Avalon cluster. But if we start to

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Speaker 1: Okay, by the look of things, I am just reading

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: It's an ever evolving situation, Minister, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: How long do you think we're going to have this

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Speaker 3: Katie it's too early. I'm sorry that I can't answer

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Speaker 3: But we have done an amazing job. And when i't

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Speaker 1: Minister, how many people have been tested here in the

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, I haven't received the figures today, but I

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, we have these questions and the information needs

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Speaker 1: Available still, Okay, because it was being reported yesterday that

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Speaker 1: three thousand to eight hundred Territorians or people here in

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Speaker 1: Okay, Minister, can I just get a bit of an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, So for some people it won't quite be

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Speaker 4: How many have got COVID At the moment, Katie, we've

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Speaker 1: It says, Hi, Katie, could you please ask the Health

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Speaker 3: Katie, I would have to look into that. So our

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Speaker 3: Star that's from Christmas Day, so I think the eighth

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Speaker 3: have to make. We are in contact with the Quantious Group,

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Speaker 3: which was a part of I'm not sure how it

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Speaker 3: which of course is disappointing for travelers from non hot

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Speaker 3: seen throughout the year of twenty twenty massive disruption to

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Speaker 1: It's had an impact, yeah, no doubt about it, and

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Speaker 1: particularly on tourism. Minister, we are going to have to

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Speaker 1: get ready to wrap up, but we do want to

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Speaker 1: say a big thank you for all of the time

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Speaker 1: that you give up to be on this show. You

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Speaker 1: join us weekly to talk about some of the issues

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Speaker 1: that are really tough ones to talk about. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think most in the media have probably nicknamed you

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Speaker 1: the Minister for bad news, but you always front up

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Speaker 1: and for that we're very appreciative. I hope you have

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Speaker 1: a lovely Christmas with your family. I know it will

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Speaker 1: be a busy one, but we hope you have a

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Speaker 1: lovely Christmas. And thank you again for all the time

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Speaker 1: that you give to us on three point sixty Oh.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, and thanks to all your listeners. I certainly

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Speaker 3: get feedback after I've been on your show, good, bad,

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Speaker 3: or indifference, and so to everyone listening, wishing them as

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Speaker 3: faith and merry Christmas. I'm out in the community today.

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Speaker 3: I'm dropping off some goodies to some of the oldies

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Speaker 3: and people in public housing and some of the businesses. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I hope twenty twenty, you know, it can

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Speaker 3: just become a distant memory. In twenty twenty one is

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Speaker 3: filled with the lots up, brighter hope, and we certainly

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Speaker 3: want to move on from this pandemic, but we still

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Speaker 3: are in the midst of it right now, and we're

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Speaker 3: reminded of that with the decisions we had to make

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Speaker 1: Good on your Fasie. Thanks so much for your time,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: In the new year.

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Speaker 3: Take care, Wolfe.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,