WEBVTT - The Sit-Down with Brad Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to the sit down. I'm Viv Christi

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<v Speaker 1>of us joined Tennis Magazine and joined by Mattrolope of

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<v Speaker 1>ozopen dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Matt, Hey Viv, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm great. We had a really interesting chat this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to a man who has worn many hats

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<v Speaker 1>in tennis. Tell us a little bit more about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were lucky enough to get connected with Brad Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the consultant coach on the new Challenges movie,

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<v Speaker 2>and we spoke to him the morning after. He'd just

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<v Speaker 2>seen the film the night before for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the timing was brilliant, and yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very enjoyable chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear what he has to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Brad.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you and thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us on the sit down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my pleasure. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations on the upcoming release of Challenges. Yeah, we'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to chat to you about your experiences working on that

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<v Speaker 2>film because I know that you were pretty central to

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<v Speaker 2>getting the actors, you know, whipped up into shape and

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<v Speaker 2>getting their kind of tennis skills honed to appear on

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<v Speaker 2>the big screen.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a really unique experience, you know, it's coaching,

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<v Speaker 4>but in a different way.

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<v Speaker 3>Zendiah and Josh had very little tennis experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike had only played, you know a bit of high

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<v Speaker 4>school tennis, but his character.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to have a one handed back end, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he had a two ended back end and the unique

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<v Speaker 3>challenge that's different about something like this. In a tennis match,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times you don't know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It just kind of in this we had scripted points

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<v Speaker 3>and then you need to get ready to have that

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<v Speaker 3>ready to plete these scripted points.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard that Zendiah attended a college tournament and some

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<v Speaker 2>college matches with you and one of the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the actors studied me curiosis serve. I was wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 2>were ay your ideas being like, you should watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a great basis for kind of like learning

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<v Speaker 2>about the strokes and how tennis has played and how

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<v Speaker 2>it looks, or kind of yeah, how did that? How

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<v Speaker 2>was that kind of like extra research for the actor?

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<v Speaker 2>How did I arrive at that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my wife, who was involved in the project with me,

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<v Speaker 3>sent all.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them a lot of different videos, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we said a lot of different videos to z on

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<v Speaker 4>you know players to you know, the maybe that she

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to pattern you know, herself after Mike Feis's character. R.

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<v Speaker 3>Donaldson was a little more defined.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew it was patterned a little more after Roger Fetter,

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<v Speaker 4>after a Pete samples, Zandiah Tashi her character was a

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<v Speaker 4>little We knew she was a killer, but didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>know her game style, and Josh was a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>free wheely.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that when we went to the Pepperdine

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State men's match and then we went to a

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<v Speaker 3>Pepperdine UCLA women's match, which at the ton of both

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<v Speaker 3>those teams were top.

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<v Speaker 4>Five, I think it was a really good experience for

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<v Speaker 4>her that she could see it. It didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 4>there was matches on so many courts and the energy

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<v Speaker 4>and intensity. So I think that helped her, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>build some thoughts on what she wanted to try to

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<v Speaker 4>achieve for the character.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad, who were some of the players that at SENDEO

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<v Speaker 1>watched that You said that you sent some videos, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>We sent a lot of videos of taller players, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know she you know, he is about five ten and

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<v Speaker 4>a half, so it was more taller bass players and

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive bass players didn't want to send her small grinders,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because her character was supposed to be an

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive style player. So you know, we just sent videos

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<v Speaker 4>to all of them and then they could get an

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<v Speaker 4>idea to and then you know, like as a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch a lot of players, you kind of oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take a little bit of him. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>take a little of that, and that's what you do,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what we kind of did. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest thing was the writer had written a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the points, and he would just say, Okay, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>want this point to end on a winner, I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to end on an error, wanted to end on a tween,

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<v Speaker 4>or wanted to end on So I actually had to

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<v Speaker 4>write for each point, Okay, here's the nine ball route,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the sixth ball route, you know, like a play

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<v Speaker 4>by play person. And then we would start to rehearse

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<v Speaker 4>it a little bit in the practice, and then Luca

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of a visionary a little bit said I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see that this point be a little longer,

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<v Speaker 4>a little shorter, a little faster, a little more than

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<v Speaker 4>and so I would just do the outline of the

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<v Speaker 4>points and then I think the thing that helped the

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<v Speaker 4>most was practicing the points without the ball, learning the

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<v Speaker 4>movement and learning the stroke of the point without the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're where you don't miss and then you.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue on with the points.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that helped all three of them a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>learning the points without the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Was there anything that surprised you about the process

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<v Speaker 1>of filming and just the production arver role.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you realize until you start filming that

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<v Speaker 4>there's like one hundred and fifty people on set. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean there's a massive amount of people that are involved,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know there was a big CGI team and

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<v Speaker 4>you know Luke as a big team, the the cinematography team.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when you start to rehearse and start to film.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in Dennis and a match is in real time,

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<v Speaker 4>it could be one shot, twenty shots, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you're you're doing this type of work, Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say we're doing this six ball rally, it will be

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<v Speaker 4>the same six ball rally until they feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got that, We've got this, nine, We've got you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking for different Another thing that is unique in Dennis

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<v Speaker 3>when you're watching a manage you're seeing the players and

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<v Speaker 3>then the reaction is sometimes the crowd and the boxes afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>This sometimes literally you're looking at Zendaiah's eyes as she's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in the stands watching the action and watching it unfold.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a different way. And the movie itself is

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<v Speaker 3>like the narrator. It's the narration of these three players lives.

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<v Speaker 3>How do we get there? You know, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So it answers a lot of the questions for the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's how we get intertwined, going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>But the challenger of Tournament itself is the narration of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad, when did you see the final version of the

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<v Speaker 2>movie and when you saw it, what did you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I saw the final version last night at the

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<v Speaker 3>premiere Wow. But after the movie like in September of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, so we kind of thought the movie was

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<v Speaker 3>going to come out in twenty three. That's what was

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<v Speaker 3>going to come out during the open. But then we had.

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<v Speaker 4>The writer strike, the actors strike, so that pushed everything behind.

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<v Speaker 4>But we did, my wife, I mean, we did a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of editing work and seeing a ton of clips

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<v Speaker 4>of the tennis making sure that like.

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<v Speaker 3>The scoreboards were right from the open, the posters were right,

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<v Speaker 3>the points that we wanted were right, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So we but we would see a ton of the

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<v Speaker 4>tennis stuff, and we watched some of the acting. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I never saw the entire movie through, but

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<v Speaker 4>I always was seeing every day getting sent to me

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<v Speaker 4>was the tennis stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>How stressful was the process compared to say, catching a

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<v Speaker 1>player at a Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, probably the most ratifying experience was the three

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<v Speaker 4>of them, you know, didn't really know each other before.

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<v Speaker 4>Their chemistry, their camaraderie, and you know that you have

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<v Speaker 4>a short period of time to get them ready, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a little bit like you know, the off season

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<v Speaker 4>getting ready to get ready to go to Australia, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're hopeful that the work you put in, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can get them ready to be to you know, literally,

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<v Speaker 4>once we were in Boston, we had six weeks to

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<v Speaker 4>get ready and then they're going to be shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's got to know and do their part.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. While we've got you here, we'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you about Coco obviously. We'd love to know what

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<v Speaker 2>most impresses you, Who impresses you about her and what

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<v Speaker 2>it's been like working with her so far, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>been what about just over six months, almost nine months,

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<v Speaker 2>almost nine months.

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<v Speaker 3>Cocoa has a lot of resolve for a young player,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's learning how you know, what happened today doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean what it's going to happen tomorrow. And sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>she's not at her best, she finds a way to

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<v Speaker 3>grind through. And she's driven, you know, fiercely to be

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<v Speaker 3>to get better and keep improving and keep moving up.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a great kid.

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<v Speaker 4>She literally has no shortage of I call doing what

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<v Speaker 4>she needs to do to put in the hard yards

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<v Speaker 4>to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>I found it really interesting an interview she did on

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<v Speaker 2>Tennis Channel when she was asked about winning the US

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<v Speaker 2>Open and she said it was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>surprise because she thought when she won her first major

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<v Speaker 2>it would come at Roland Garross And I just wondered,

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<v Speaker 2>if you, like, would you have agreed with that. I

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<v Speaker 2>know obviously her first major was at the US Open,

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<v Speaker 2>but before she won a major, would you have thought

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<v Speaker 2>her first one would have been on clay? And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess what does that mean like for her clay court

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<v Speaker 2>season coming up?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good question. I mean, her movement is such

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<v Speaker 3>a good factor. But obviously Schiantek has kind of established

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<v Speaker 3>herself here at a young age is being dominant on clay.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, she made her first final of a

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<v Speaker 3>major on clay and.

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<v Speaker 4>Son then obviously that kind of makes you feel like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that should be my best surface.

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<v Speaker 3>Andre got to the finals, you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>times when.

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<v Speaker 4>He was really young of the French and you thought

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<v Speaker 4>he would win that, and then that became the last

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<v Speaker 4>one he can win. They're all difficult, this heck to win,

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<v Speaker 4>and wherever you get the first one, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like savor it and then start focusing on the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like at this point, hardcourts is probably her

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<v Speaker 4>best surface. I think ultimately that at the certain purpose,

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<v Speaker 4>I think she should We'll get the will improve the

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<v Speaker 4>most on his grass, because I think her game has

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of upsiding grass. So you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that there's no reason why she shouldn't be good on

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<v Speaker 4>any surface because of her movement and her willingness to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to grind on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it been like for you, Brad working with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's top women after you've worked with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the great ATP players in Agacy, Erotic and Andy Murray.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I told Zenzaia last night that, you know, somehow

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<v Speaker 3>she must prepared me in twenty twenty two, because I

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<v Speaker 3>spent like a couple months with her in LA before

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<v Speaker 3>we got to Boston. So I think she somehow must

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<v Speaker 3>have you know, art imitates life, so somehow she must

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<v Speaker 3>have got me prepared to get ready.

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<v Speaker 5>For Coco in twenty twenty three. But honestly, if I'm

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<v Speaker 5>working with a club player, I'm working with a girl, boy,

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<v Speaker 5>or whoever I am. Your old goal is trying to

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<v Speaker 5>help them get better. So I try to look through

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<v Speaker 5>their lens and see what we can do to help

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<v Speaker 5>them get better, and try not to think about it's

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<v Speaker 5>a male, it's a female, it's a boy, it's a girl.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a tennis player that you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we can help, you know, achieve their dreams and

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<v Speaker 3>get better.

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<v Speaker 1>What's pleased you the most about Coco's progressing your time together.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the thing that pleases me most about it, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, she comes from such a great family.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a great kid, She's unbelievably hard working, and she's humble,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's incredibly dedicated to wanting to get better.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like she's not satisfied or complacent, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with this result or that result.

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<v Speaker 3>She just wants to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at your career as a whole, You've been so

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<v Speaker 2>connected with tennis for so many years in so many ways. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you were a pro yourself, you made the top five,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've moved into coaching, You've written a book,

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<v Speaker 2>You're also an analyst and a commentator, so you've worn

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<v Speaker 2>lots of hats in tennis. Do you prefer one of

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<v Speaker 2>the hats?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, honestly, I've been blessed by a dire

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<v Speaker 3>adult life to be involved in something that I love

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<v Speaker 3>to do, you know, so I really haven't had to

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<v Speaker 3>have a job, but I've been able to do something

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm passionate about in all different facets.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I love to commentate, I love the coach

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, I never would have thought that I

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<v Speaker 4>would have enjoyed coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>More than maybe playing.

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<v Speaker 6>And but and then sometimes there's many times I got

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<v Speaker 6>to pinch myself that when I'm sitting courts up, like

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<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe for the two thousand and five Aussie

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<v Speaker 6>Open for FED and SAFF and I'm sitting courtside watching

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<v Speaker 6>that or the Rafa Verdasco match, and you're sitting there

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<v Speaker 6>watching an epic match, and you know it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 6>be a so called job, but like it's amazing to

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<v Speaker 6>be a part of such a great sport that I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like I still have a long ways to go.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the beauty of tennis. And you know, now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>back coaching, it's it. I feel like, honestly that it's

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<v Speaker 4>been a great ride, and now.

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<v Speaker 7>Doing this movie, so you know, who knows, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 7>be involved in another movie, you know, but they're all

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<v Speaker 7>unique and great experiences in something that I love to

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<v Speaker 7>do more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Atenus and Brad, we have to ask have you worked

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<v Speaker 1>with any other celebrities in guiding their tennis?

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<v Speaker 4>I once spent in the late nineties two weeks. Then

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<v Speaker 4>we became friends for you know, a long time after that.

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<v Speaker 4>I helped Robert Williams get ready for an event that

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<v Speaker 4>he was playing. He was playing with Andre and he

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<v Speaker 4>was playing against Billy Crystal and Pete Sanpris, and he

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<v Speaker 4>heard it that his friend Billy was really taking the

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<v Speaker 4>tennis serious, so and his people arranged for me to to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, spend a couple of weeks every day with

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<v Speaker 4>Robin and it was one of the great experiences of

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<v Speaker 4>my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was It's such a funny guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And it just fun to be on the court with

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<v Speaker 4>it and like and then to see him serious, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get ready for this tennis.

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<v Speaker 3>He had played high school tennis, but he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh my god, I I gotta be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>ready to go because he knew his friend was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And which led to a great friendship I had with

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<v Speaker 3>him for a long time after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing, and it's been so great just listening

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<v Speaker 2>to you today. Your passionate about the sport in all

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<v Speaker 2>those different ways you mentioned has really come through. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're thrilled that, you know, there's a movie that's getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>They're into the mainstream and putting tennis out there because

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<v Speaker 2>we're big tennis fans too, so it's always good when

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<v Speaker 2>tennis gets its time in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, appreciate it, and look forward to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five Osie Open. Yes, well, see so much, Brad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Brad, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved hearing all the details of, you know, Brad's experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think about things like having to teach a

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<v Speaker 1>player with a double handed backhand a one hander, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know how he checked the scoreboard and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that and made it a really authentic experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that quality control he got to do. And

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<v Speaker 2>in his point about you know, one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>people being on set, you know there's a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on that. So you did a great job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think one thing that's kind of underrated

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<v Speaker 2>in Brad Gilbert's story is the fact that every point

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<v Speaker 2>of his tennis journey he's absolutely excelled. Like he got

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<v Speaker 2>to world number four himself. He's written a book, winning

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<v Speaker 2>Ugly that we still talk about now. He's coached three

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<v Speaker 2>different players to Grand Slam titles, and yeah, just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of yeah, every step along his way in tennis, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just done such good job. And it was just yet

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<v Speaker 2>great to talk to someone so passionate about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair to say that he's valued every

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<v Speaker 1>one of those experiences equally. I loved hearing that he

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<v Speaker 1>says he's never had a job just because he loves what.

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<v Speaker 3>He does so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back again next Monday, and in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>you can listen to John and the team this Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>on the AO Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>Details for how to contact us are in the show notes,

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<v Speaker 2>you next week, Viv See you

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, Matt