1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka nian Ar gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: In Nimbina yakarum jar dominyamiga Umagahawakaman damon imlan Wumba bang 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghana on yakraum jar Watnadaa. Hello, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: We thank I acknowledge and respect the Aberiginal people's land 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: that we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: land and respect all that you see. She's on the 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 13 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 14 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: that makes personal finance fun, especially on Fridays. It is 15 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: our favorite day of the week because I get to 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: get my team together and celebrate you our incredible She's 17 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: on the Money. Community is Jess Garricky's That sounds weird. 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: I can't say it that way. 19 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 3: That's how you say it when you're just normally talking. 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: That's how the people want me to say it. I 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: can't do that enough. Just Reach is going to be 22 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: sharing our favorite money wins. Miss beck Sayeed is back 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: and she's going to be sharing her broke tips, and 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: we're going to be helping to answer a juicy money 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: dilemma about whether you should be salary sacrificing into your 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: super or focusing on other goals. And something that you 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: slid into our DMS about a spicy sibling drama about 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: your sister getting money that isn't being given to you. Oh, 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: I just have thoughts and feelings. I believe values about 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: that one. 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: I do. 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: I do, and I can't wait to get there. But 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: before we get there, my friend's team question from the community. Yeah, 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: I got to ask you a question, but they have 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: been rolling in hot and heavy. Apparently the community have 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: a lot of questions for you guys, And if you 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: didn't listen to last week's show, I've started a new 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: segment and instead of saying to my team, how are you, 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: I say, hey, here's a question from our community, and 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't give them any warning. Yes, it's my favorite 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: part about it. So I've been putting out a call 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: for all your burning questions for jess and Beck and 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: I might even get involved sometimes, and they've been rolling in. 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: So this week's question is from our friend Grace, and 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: Grace wants to know what is your best second hand 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: slash op shop slash marketplace find that you have found 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: in the last twelve months and how much money did 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: it cost. I just thought this was a good one, 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: because good one, Beck, the Queen of Marketplace, is actually 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: Miss Jessica Rich. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: Marketplace. 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Fine, I'm trying. 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: I've had some good like fun this year, but I 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: still think my best find it has not been in 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: the last twelve months. I when to say, anyway, it 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 5: was my I've got a full dinner set from in 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: the Roundhouse, like pieces, sixteen pieces, how many pieces it is, 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: And I wanted this specific that they do these beautiful 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: scollop plates for anyone who doesn't know. And there were 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: two colors that I really wanted. I still want the 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: pink and then there's like a white with a red trim. 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: And I found the exact set that I wanted for 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty dollars. When I think full price 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 5: they retail for about two hundred and fifty. 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Oh in the box, every single piece. 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 5: The original listing said that it was missing the platter, 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, that's fine, I don't need 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: the platter. And then when I got it, the platter 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: was in there. So I don't know what happened, but 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: literally just thought it was a large plate. Maybe maybe 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: lucky gal energy was with me because I've been hunting 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: for that thing. 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Goes, how about you? 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 6: Well, this is the thing is that I really am 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 6: into metal at the moment, like functional metal, not TACKI metal. 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 6: That's like because metals kind of in for like decor 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 6: I'm talking about. 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of in right imagining, like yes, you are 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: so cute. 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 5: What do you do that? 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: It's like okay, you've never been to. 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 6: And that's okay, but no, like you know, like a 83 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 6: metal teapot or something that like, yes, I see, yeah 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 6: it was made that way to begin with, like years ago, 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 6: because that's kind of the only resource we had, and 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: like I'm really into that stuff, and so like finding 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 6: that now from like older people who don't realize how 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 6: cool it is. And so I found this like fruit 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 6: bowl that is it's not gonna make sense right now, 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 6: but it's like metal, and it like it goes upward 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 6: and it just it's almost like a palm. 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: It's almost like fingers are holding It's just it was 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: ten dollars because no one knows that this stuff is 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: so cool. 95 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 6: I shouldn't be saying it on here because if it's 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: like old, you've barely used it. It's from like the 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 6: nineteen seventies. It's like a metal fruit bowl that is 98 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: so cool and I really want to get my hands 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: it anyway. 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: That I just found that the other day. 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 6: But the greatest thing about the stories that I realized 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 6: that we have a suburb called Dallas in Melbourne and 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 6: where I picked it up from, and that's my favorite buy. 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: That's so good. It was really cool. So metal. 105 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so this is really niche and you're going to 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: be like, what the hell, Victoria, I'm really excited about it. 107 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: So maybe like three or four months ago, I just 108 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: had this flashback memory of an egg maker that I 109 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: had when I still lived at home. I haven't lived 110 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: at home for like ages now, like I moved out 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: when I was eighteen, and I remember being like I 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: had this it was a Sunbeam egg cooker. The bottom 113 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: was white, the top was like a yellow, kind of 114 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: like completely like transparent yellow. It has little chicken feet. 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: And it was by Sunbeam and it was like a 116 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: snack series thing, so it was like novel tea right, 117 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: And inside it it had these cups and you could 118 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: poach three eggs without any like you would fill the 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: base with water, poached the three eggs. If people are listening, 120 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: and this triggers a memory, oh my god, it was 121 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: so good anyway, So it was this egg poacher thing, right, 122 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: and when the eggs are ready, the little egg chirps, 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, that would be 124 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: so helpful nowadays, because like my son eats a lot 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: of eggs. I also low key loved that. I ate 126 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot of eggs. And I was like, I wonder 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: if you can still buy it. I Google, you cannot 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: buy that. You can buy egg poaches. They are a 129 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: lot more fancy, They're a lot more durable. This thing 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: is like quite little, right, like smaller than a football. 131 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: Good for storage, good yeah, good for the covered. So 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I need to find this, 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: and so I looked on marketplace. Absolutely not like this 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: thing is more than fifteen years old, like not a thing. 135 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 136 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: And then because I'd searched it Marketplace recommended, when one 137 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: popped up, said you might like you know, it's like 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: it sends you like listings. Anyway, Robert in New South 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: Wales was selling one for fifteen dollars new in box. 140 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: He'd pulled it out when he moved house. He had 141 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: never used it. It came with the novelty egg cups. 142 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: And I messaged him so quick. I was like, Hi, Robert, 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: miss me. It's me. I'll buy this from you, but 144 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: I'm happy to pay whatever in shipping you're in New 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: South Wales And he was like, oh, I'll just go 146 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: to the post office. Ten dollars eighty later it was 147 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: shipped to my house by Robert, who looked like he 148 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: joined Facebook before it existed. And I've got my egg poacher. 149 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Ah, that is real. 150 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: That is my favorite thing. And I think it cost 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: me about thirty dollars in total. That's so cool, vintch 152 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: find that's so fun. I'll post a picture of it 153 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: online because it's actually like the cutest thing ever. But 154 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: it was like in this series that had the egg Poacher, 155 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: there was like a fairy floss machine was a I 156 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: think I had the fairy popcorn maker. 157 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sounds familiar. 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, And don't sleep on gum tree because a lot 159 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 6: of those things are probably on gum tree because people 160 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: who don't realize marketplaces a thing are the same type 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 6: of people selling these old school things. 162 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: True. 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: What a fun confo So yeah, anyway, I'm glad that 164 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: Grace's burning question because I got to tell you guys 165 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: about my egg poacher. You are welcome. I want to 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: get further into the show, though. Before we get there, 167 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: it is time for a five star review? Amazing Are 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: you ready ready? This one says just lots of love 169 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: five stars from Chloe jan long term listener here, smiley face. 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: It just wanted to write a review to show my 171 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: appreciation for your hard work and really solid financial advice. 172 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: I've taken on many of your strategies over the years. 173 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: A special mention to Beck sayed though the more I 174 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: listen to the podcast to the more my love for 175 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: her gross. She's so genuine, so vulnerable about her own finances. 176 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: Thank you for being so giving with your experience. It 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: ensures that everyone listening feels heard and seen. No matter 178 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: where they are on their financial journey. It also sounds 179 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: just like a really cool person. Smiley face. 180 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: So yes, thank you, thank you so much. Da, It's 181 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: so nice. Oh my god, you actually read my heart reach. 182 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: I love the addition of you actually sound like a 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: really cool person. She is, I'll ever be Ever, that's 184 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: not true. 185 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: That's you're true. 186 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: That are just inherently cool. I've got to try to 187 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: be cool. And even then my sister's like, sit. 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: That's not true, Victoria. I would, I would say, you're 189 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: call to the core. 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: But moving on, tell me more about the community, miss Jessegarich. 191 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: When it comes to community, money, wins and confessions, what 192 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: are you bringing to the table? 193 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: All right? First of this week, Amanda has the money 194 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: when she went out for dinner and found a pub 195 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: where kids eat free. 196 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: Okay, that is a good deal. In twenty twenty four, thirty. 197 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: Two dollars in kids meals, which included a drink and 198 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: ice cream. 199 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: What sign me up for that? 200 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: Yes, here's a point. Can you go? Oh just gives 201 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: me all thanks. 202 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 5: I'm really young, amoside. I promise I am not yet mature. Next, 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: I've got a money win from Anya, he said, money win. 204 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: I hit ten thousand dollars invested between Chersias and Vanguard, 205 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: She's hit five. I know she would have imagined that 206 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: she could do that with savings aside too. 207 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: That's going to be soon. I know you're a huge progress. 208 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Beck has just hit more than one thousand dollars. 209 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 210 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: Energy. 211 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, who was. 212 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: Going to say, oh, miss Beck sayed has more than 213 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: a thousand dollars invested in less than twelve months. Crazy, 214 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: but she's rich now, I guess you could say that, yeah, 215 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. 216 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: Well done. 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Ballot, who said 218 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 5: she hit her emergency savings goal this week. She's been 219 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 5: pouring every extra dollar she has in since January and 220 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 5: finally reached three months of her earnings set aside. 221 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Incredible, people are. 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: Kicking goals towards the into the year. 223 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Well done, totally. 224 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Renee who said 225 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: she invested in three bee hives and now she has 226 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 5: a side hustle selling honey. 227 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: And she provided us a video of said honey. 228 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: It looks very beautiful. 229 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 3: Very that is so wholesome. I know, last week we 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: were talking about cows. This week we're talking about getting 231 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: bees sleeping. I just do you guys want to get farm? 232 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: I was loved nothing more. 233 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. 234 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah chickens. Can we get duck? 235 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 236 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I really want a pet duck. 237 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 2: We can get ducks. 238 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: You are really cool. 239 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 5: Last of this week, I've got a money winter from Tests, 240 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: who said she was looking at new light fittings last 241 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: week on Temple and Webster. They were ninety nine dollars each. 242 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: She looked again this morning after putting a bit of 243 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 5: time between her and her spending, and they were reduced 244 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 5: to seventy nine dollars. She said she'll be saving approximately 245 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: sixty dollars across all of the lights that she has 246 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: to buy, which is proof that resisting impulse buying is 247 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: a good thing. 248 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 6: Gorgeous, well done, Tests, Yes, good twenty four hour trick. 249 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: It always works, that's it. 250 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: Which will be very. 251 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: Very proud of you one thousand percent. But you know 252 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: what else I want, Miss becsay Ed's broke tips, and 253 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 3: I give those to you. 254 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: I give it to you right now. 255 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: Oh, look at her coming up. 256 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So this. 257 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: First one comes from Francis, who says the way I 258 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 6: save money on growthries is by having a three week 259 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 6: roster on a white board in my kitchen with twenty 260 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: one dinners Blue week, Red week, Green week, then we 261 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 6: cycle back to the start. This means I have my 262 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: shopping list prepped ahead of time, and I always know 263 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 6: what I need to buy, so I can get extra 264 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 6: when things are on special, being confident that it will 265 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 6: get used and there is not going to be any wasted. 266 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 3: That's actually so smart. 267 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 6: And the next one comes from Ness who says, I 268 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 6: take my tod the Taikia for a fun morning out. 269 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 6: A lot of the rooms are set up for pretend 270 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: play for kids. Also meals half priced on Fridays and 271 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 6: already so cheap anyway, there was also a free place 272 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: center for kids at the front of the store with little. 273 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: Play kitchens and soft toys. 274 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: That's a great I know. That's actually wish that she'd 275 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: reminded me of that, not in November, but more like 276 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: in June when it started raining and I didn't know 277 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: what to do with my crazy eighteen months off. 278 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, but free. 279 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: Totally occupy your home, loving thirty one year old friend. 280 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: Did I care for many hours on the weekend. 281 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: I'll be swinging past Jess's place picking her up, and 282 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: her and Harvey are having a play date and I 283 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: care he's going to crawl around and she's a cart. 284 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 6: Just a really quick mantion. Nessays that she did end 285 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: up buying the Gigantic Bear, which I always always you 286 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: guys know that big brown bear. It is so hard 287 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 6: to walk away from it. Yeah, one thousand percent. And 288 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 6: anytime you go, I think Jess is on the same 289 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: page as me. 290 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: But anytime you go to Ikea, you must take home 291 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: a bag of frozen meat balls. Yes, they're mashed potato, 292 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: they're like sauce, and they're gravy. Because nothing hits different 293 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: than Ikea Swedish meat balls. They're actually really budget friendly 294 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: as well. And sorry, quick meal from the freezer, we 295 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: love it. Gorgeous Ikea meal prepping sligh. 296 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get some of those today. So this next 297 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: one comes from me. 298 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,479 Speaker 6: When you book a holiday, you have flights in accommodation 299 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 6: and you have to change your plans at the last minute, 300 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 6: and there's like, you know, you can't get refund YadA, YadA, YadA, 301 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 6: you lose your money. 302 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: So bad deal. 303 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Money is bad. That's bad. It's bad. That's like losing 304 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: money in this house. 305 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 6: But there's actually a website like Transferred Travel, spare Fare, 306 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 6: and cancelo that are basically secondhand marketplaces for travel. 307 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: So if you're someone looking for like a cheap travel situation, 308 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: or you're someone. 309 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 6: Who needs to sell the travel plan, yeah, then it's 310 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 6: like you just get to buy someone else's holiday for 311 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 6: a lot cheaper. So you can list your unwanted holidays 312 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 6: and recoup some of the costs, or you can buy 313 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 6: other people's holidays and its counting. 314 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: That is very clever, so genius. 315 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: How do you. 316 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: Transfer things into somebody else's name? 317 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: I actually don't know. 318 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: I think you had to. 319 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: Pay to teach you. 320 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but accommodation or something. Yeah, it's fine. 321 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how it works, but do you know 322 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: what it reminds me of. This was actually a trip 323 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: that Jess and I were meant to go on to 324 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: Sydney a while ago, just for work, and then something 325 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: came up really last minute, and we were like, we 326 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: have to cancel that because we've got to do this 327 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: other thing. And I was reading the terms and conditions 328 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: of the hotel that we were going to stay at 329 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: and it said no cancelations. With less than forty eight 330 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: hours notice. And I was like, ah, like you would 331 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: like fourfeit all of it, and this is probably going 332 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: to make me look like a really dodgy human being. 333 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: But I mean, if it helps you and it helped me, 334 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: does that really mean that I'm dodgy? So I didn't 335 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: cancel it. I called them up and then I picked 336 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: a random day, like two months in advance, and say, hey, 337 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: can I just move my booking? And then they said yes, 338 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: and they were really nice about it. And then I 339 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: called back the next day and I canceled the book here. 340 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: That's genius, and they gave me a full refund with 341 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: no questions lasked. I just had my fingers crossed that 342 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: it was a different girl on reception perfect. 343 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: That's genius. 344 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, that worked. So if it says like less 345 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: than forty eight hours notice no cancelations, well I'm not canceling. 346 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: I'm just like changing my thing. And I was like, hey, 347 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: can you just change it to like, you know, the 348 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: end of November and she was like yeah, no worries, 349 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: like rebooked, you're in on the thirtieth or whatever, and 350 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: I was like yep, thanks so much. And then the 351 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: next thing, I said, Hey, so I made a booking 352 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: for the thirtieth and I actually don't need it anymore. 353 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you've got heaps of notice, no worries. 354 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: We'll just cancel that and you'll get a full refund. 355 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, thanks so much. That's really 356 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: cool for you to do that for me. 357 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: That's so smart. 358 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: So that's like a little like a sprinkle on the 359 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: top for your broke tips. 360 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: Totally don't d don't be dodgy, but like B like VD, 361 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 6: yeah seriously, Oh that's gorgeous. 362 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's me. 363 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I feel like that's really good. Let's go 364 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: to a really quick break because I'm very excited to 365 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: help you guys answer money dilemma about whether you should 366 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: be salary sacrificing into your super or you should be 367 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: focusing on your other goals and something you're leading to 368 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: our dms about which or I just have thoughts, feelings, 369 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: and opinions. A spicy sibling drama about your sister getting 370 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: money that isn't being given to you. Guys, don't go anywhere. 371 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's 372 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: money dilemma. 373 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 7: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just 374 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 7: can't solve. The Sheese on the Money team is here 375 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: to help. 376 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: Every week, we. 377 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: Tackle your dilemmas, both big and small, to answer your 378 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 7: most burning money, career and life questions. To get involved, 379 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 7: simply head to our website and leave us a short 380 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 7: voice recording and you might just find yourself on the show. 381 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: Now, let's take a listen to this week's money dilemma. 382 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 8: Hi guys, my question is around whether it is better 383 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 8: to salary sacrifice into SUPER or put that money towards 384 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 8: home deposit. At the moment, I'm in a position within 385 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 8: my career where I earn enough to comfortably afford to 386 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 8: salary sacrifice into my SUPER and max it out every year. 387 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 8: At the same time, I'm currently saving for a home deposit, 388 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 8: and if I don't salary sacrifice into my SUPER, I 389 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 8: expect to have decent to posit together within a year 390 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 8: and could borrow a decent amount for decent enough property. 391 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 8: So my question is would it be better in the 392 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 8: long run to max out SUPER knowing that it could 393 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 8: potentially affect my borrowing power and delay my savings goal, 394 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 8: or wait until I have purchased a property and then 395 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 8: salary sacrifice into my super thank you. 396 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 6: Oh, I would say property first because you never know 397 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 6: if the property prices will rise. 398 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: But the other thing I'm thinking you could do that. 399 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: First home the first time statistame. 400 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: Per save scheme. You've got to really quick scheme. Yeah, 401 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: that's really good, Cob. 402 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: They came out so you know how many times a 403 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: week I say that, It's actually like I should have canceled. 404 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's all You're so good at it. No, no, 405 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: So this is my question. Can you do the first 406 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: serves scheme? 407 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 6: If you pay super before tags, which is sealary sacrifice 408 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 6: or after it was either all well. 409 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: It's either all so it just can't be your your 410 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: workplace contributions, so your like mandated twelve percent doesn't count. 411 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: Does any type of additional contribution You could go back 412 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: and be like, hey, could I please access that? So, 413 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: whether it was you setting up an additional salary sacrifice 414 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: with your employer and saying hey, could you do an 415 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: additional two percent or could you do fifty bucks a 416 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: week or whatever, that looks like that can be leaned 417 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: on for first time Super Savis game. But then on 418 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: the flip side, you could also be like, oh my gosh, 419 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: I have some extra cash and I want to chuck 420 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: that into my super to make the most of the 421 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: first time Super Savis scheme or the FHSS, which feels 422 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: a little bit less aggressive. 423 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: But that's what you did, Jess. You had your house. 424 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: Savings and then hypothetically you got some very legitimate financial 425 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: advice not from your friend, and then you made lump 426 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: some deposits into that. Because what would happen then is, yes, 427 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: it's after tax, but come tax time, Jess would have 428 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: put it on her tax return that she'd done that, 429 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: and then she would have got the difference of that 430 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 3: base fifteen percent tax rate inside super back on her 431 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: tax return based on what she earns and her MARGINALU tix. 432 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: I understand. So it actually doesn't matter how it gets 433 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: in as long as it was like a voluntary contribution. 434 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 6: And is the only benefit to this the tax element, 435 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: or is it because I'm thinking limorary benefits. 436 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: The primary benefit is taxed. 437 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: So the first time super Savor scheme exists to put you, 438 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: as a first home buyer in a better financial position. 439 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: So the way that it works is it allows you 440 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: to use your superranuation environment as a savings tool for 441 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: your first home, so you can contra fifteen thousand dollars 442 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: each and every single year up to fifty thousand dollars total, 443 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: and then instead of paying like, let's pretend, or not 444 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 3: even pretend, I know that most people in our community 445 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: have a thirty percent tax rate. So by taking your 446 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: savings and putting them inside superannuation and then pulling them 447 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: back out later for your first home, you're going to 448 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: get fifteen percent immediately back on that money. Because supernuation 449 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: tax rate fifteen percent your actual tax rate thirty percent, 450 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: you get a refund and so you end up coming 451 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: out of the wash with more cash for your first home. 452 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: I'd say one of the government's ways of getting first 453 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: home buys into their homes a little bit quicker. That's clever, 454 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: that's very It is capped. But like if you're buying 455 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: with a partner, yes, you only have access to fifty 456 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in your super but like, let's pretend you 457 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: and Jess were doing it. Actually you couldn't do it 458 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: because your partner, Jess already owns an apartment. Are hypothetically 459 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: if she didn't, you could then have one hundred thousand 460 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: dollars a cross both of your circumstances, and on fifty 461 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: thousand dollars each, in the long run, you actually end 462 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: up I believe, about nine and a half thousand dollars 463 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: better off individually. So you'd be in like, what nineteen 464 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: thousand dollars better off as a couple. 465 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 6: And do you get the gains on that money as 466 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 6: well as that you do it two thousand or you do? 467 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 6: Do you get your returns interest returns? It just depends 468 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: how long it's been in there. Yes, sure, Yeah, it's 469 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 6: taxed on my house, but still free money. Sorry, sorry, 470 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 6: money is money. Yeah, Like we're not complaining. So when 471 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 6: we pay tax, it's because we made money. Yes, they're 472 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 6: not going to tax you on money you didn't make exactly. 473 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: You can't come back in the native tax me. 474 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: It's very sexy. 475 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: Love it, love it, love. 476 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: Itess Like I want my tax to be really high. 477 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: Like I want to tell you, I don't want to 478 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: brag about my tax return because I'd be like, look. 479 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 6: What I did well in this case, because I guess 480 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: like in the long run, it doesn't really affect your 481 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 6: super as much. But I think you should prioritize property, 482 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 6: but you can still do it in this way that 483 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 6: doesn't actually like boost your super at the. 484 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: End of it all, I'm assuming no, but you could. 485 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: Like split it. You could split it so you can 486 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: contribute up to fifteen thousand dollars a year to the 487 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: first home Super Savor scheme, and hypothetically if you had more, 488 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: which are unrelatable, but whatever, if you had more, that 489 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: additional amount could still be going towards your Super. But 490 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: don't forget you have a thirty thousand dollar cap each 491 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: year of what you can contribute to super in total. 492 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: There's lots of rules and regulations around that. You and 493 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: I just recorded the second part of our Subranuation series 494 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: and that's coming out in a couple of weeks, So 495 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: I'll make sure that our first part is linked in 496 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: the show notes and the second part you can keep 497 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: your eyes peeled for. But your employer's contributions make up 498 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: part of that thirty percent. So let's say like you 499 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: go to work every day and your Superanuation contributions from 500 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: your employer nine and a half thousand dollars per year. 501 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 3: That takes up part of your thirty thousand contributions, then 502 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: maybe your fifteen thousand in home savings, you don't actually 503 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: have a lot of more wiggle room before you incur 504 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: more tax Is that unrelatable because most of us can't 505 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: contribute that. Yes, But like those are the rules and 506 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: reg relations. What I would say is the important thing 507 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: about the first time Super Savor scheme is that once 508 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: you put it in, if it's not being withdrawn for property, 509 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: it does get taxed on the way out and you're 510 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: not going to end up in a better position. So 511 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: if you're planning on pulling it out, haha, you can't 512 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: unless it's for property. So if it's other goals that 513 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: aren't property related, I would be considering seriously not using 514 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: Super as a vehicle for that. And I will tell 515 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: you on our second part of this Super episode. Personally, 516 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: I don't make additional contributions to Super to top up 517 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: my retirement because I have very grand plans of retiring 518 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: before the age of sixty five. So like you guys, 519 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: take that however you wish, or just just any additionals no, 520 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: nothing for me. 521 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: I think. 522 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: Can you just say, first time Super, I have a 523 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: game really. 524 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: Quick, I'd forget it. 525 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 526 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: It's car so quick. 527 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: All right, guys, I'm excited for this one because I 528 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: am opinionated, and I think you guys are going to 529 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: be too. So are you ready for the DM we 530 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: got this week? Ready? 531 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 7: Hi? 532 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: She's on the money team. I have a little bit 533 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: of a money dilemma for you. My younger sister is 534 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: engaged and currently making wedding preparations. I found out recently 535 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: that my parents are paying for the entire wedding. My 536 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: long term partner and I decided long ago that we 537 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: will not be getting married or having kids, as that's 538 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: just not what feels right for us. My parents are 539 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: fully aware of this. It is unlikely that I would 540 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: bother broaching the subject with them, as I know their 541 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: response would be just something along the lines of, well, 542 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: if you get married to will pay for your wedding too. 543 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: I would love to know y'all's thoughts on whether or 544 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: not it would be fair for my parents to financially 545 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: assist me in other ways, considering I don't have any 546 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: plans to get married. 547 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: Big yes, personally, and I understand that like no one 548 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 6: actually owes anyone money, So if they paid for your 549 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 6: sister's wedding. It still feels unfair, but it's like I 550 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: think that it's different if it's like, oh, my assistant 551 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 6: needed surgery and they paid for a surgery and then 552 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: and then I'd be like, oh, they. 553 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: Don't know anything. 554 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: But like there's something that always gets to me about 555 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 6: like this tradition that is just like it is really cool, 556 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: really beautiful, Like weddings have just been around since as 557 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 6: long as I can remember. But I don't I don't 558 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: think we need to get married. I think it was 559 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 6: like something that was just like kind of you know, 560 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: maybe it. 561 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: Was religious, maybe it was born out of religion. 562 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure transfer the ownership of a woman from her 563 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: father to he house. 564 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: But thank you Jess exactly. And that's what I try 565 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: and say, and that I don't want to like sound 566 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: my heart. 567 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: My husband didn't even get a dowry when he married me. 568 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. 569 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: And it's like and so the dad walks the doughter 570 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 6: down like here's this is your property now, and like 571 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 6: that's the thing. It's like a transfer of ownership and 572 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, we're way beyond that now, which is great, 573 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 6: but it's like you know, but we still get married, 574 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 6: and I think that's that's really beautiful. 575 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: But we don't need to. 576 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 6: So I feel like, like I have friends I probably 577 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 6: won't get married. I have a lot of friends who 578 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: probably won't get married. One of my friends is like, 579 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 6: I'm not having children, but I still don't have a party. 580 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 6: So I'm going to have a non children party and 581 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 6: a non marriage party because we deserve. 582 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: Gifts just as much as ever anyone else. 583 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: But I understand that if you're spending a lot of 584 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 6: money on a ceremony, then you know, it's really nice 585 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 6: if people kind of like contribute to your life moving forward, 586 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 6: which is lovely. But I don't think it's an essential thing. 587 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 6: Some people want it to be. Some people are quite religious, 588 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 6: and it is an essential thing. But because it's so 589 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 6: like it's so you don't have to do it, you 590 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 6: don't want to be not that you're directly being like 591 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 6: punished for not doing it, but to see that something 592 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: that your sister doesn't need to do is it's being 593 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: funded and like this is a big party to celebrate 594 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 6: her and her love and all this kind of stuff, 595 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 6: and you don't want to do that because you were like, 596 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 6: what does it actually mean for me. It doesn't mean 597 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 6: anything for me, so why would I do it? And 598 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 6: then you know, so I think that like having this 599 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: conversation with your parents and be like what is marriage? 600 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: Like why marriage? What the hell does it mean? Why 601 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: we are doing it? 602 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 6: And why do you just like give money so much 603 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 6: money away without even thinking about what it is and 604 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 6: why it's happening. So I think like if your parents 605 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 6: could understand that you've kind of like seen through all 606 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 6: of that and you're like, oh, it's not really for me. 607 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: It's just a waste of money or whatever it is. 608 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: Whatever that looks like it's not really important for you. 609 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 6: But you are still doing things that should be valued 610 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 6: as highly as a wedding because you love someone so much. 611 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: But maybe you're maybe you want to open a studio 612 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 6: and have like a creative art space, maybe you want 613 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 6: to start your own business, maybe you want to go 614 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 6: on a trip. All these things should be This is 615 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 6: what really annoys me is that like all these things 616 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: that we do for ourselves and for the people we love, 617 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 6: just like no one places any value on it. But 618 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 6: it's you get married and everyone's like, oh my god, 619 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 6: it's such an achievement, but it's also an achievement to 620 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 6: do all these other little things, not little things. I 621 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 6: shouldn't say little, they're all big. But I think if 622 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 6: you explain that to your parents, like I did this 623 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 6: thing which was really cool, I did that by myself. 624 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: I did this thing that was really cool. No one 625 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 6: helped me funder that. It's like if you kind of 626 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: explain that, they don't know it to you, but it 627 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 6: will build resentment within you. And we're just trying to 628 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 6: avoid the resentment. It's all I trying to say. But 629 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 6: everything that we all do is valuable, including getting married, 630 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 6: including not getting married. 631 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: I think it's also a different tangent than like do 632 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: they owe you that, because it's all about well, you know, 633 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: the way you're seeing marriage and the way that your 634 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: views are on that, because like, as someone who is married, 635 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: like I look at it and go, oh my god, 636 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: Like I did not get married because I want to 637 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: submit to my husband and all of that, and like, 638 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: if you know my relationship, well enough, unlucky guy, I 639 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: refuse to take his name. I made sure that our 640 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 3: kids had our name. Sorry, mate, you want to be 641 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: a divine, well, if you want to marry me, that's 642 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: the rules. 643 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 6: It's weird that it's just like, by default the opposite, 644 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: and it's like cooled if it's not. 645 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's like, yeah, no, it 646 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: should just be. 647 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: It can be anything on your terms. It doesn't mean 648 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: you have to get married. You don't have to. Lots 649 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: of people I know don't. But it's more like, I 650 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: guess the underlying question here is not whether your choices 651 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: are valid, but like, should your parents be funding your life? Jess, 652 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: what would you do? 653 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something I've been reflected on a lot, exactly 654 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: if you're kind of touching I'm bet as someone who 655 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: is not really following that traditional pathway. I don't know 656 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: that i'll have kids, I don't know that I'll care 657 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: to get married, you know where a lot of my 658 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: friends have ticked those more traditional quote unquote accomplishments. And 659 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: there's something just in reflecting I think on the fact that, 660 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: as you said, we celebrate these milestones, but not everybody 661 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: will will want to pursue those. 662 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only recently. 663 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 5: That same sex couples were able to get married. To 664 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 5: a very long time that wasn't even an option for people, 665 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 5: you know, and I think that there's something to be said, 666 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: not that celebration or the things that come with that, 667 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: like the gifting, the money, etc. Not that it has 668 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: to be reciprocal or equal. That's not what I'm getting at. 669 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: But I do think that for people who choose less 670 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: traditional pathways, it can be really hard to feel like 671 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: you're not being celebrated or not achieving things that people 672 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 5: view as valuable. I think it's great that you're choosing 673 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: your own path, and I think that you're totally right. 674 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: My only. 675 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: Qualm I suppose is that, as you you said, you're 676 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 5: not owed something, and like I think it's really generous 677 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: and it is somewhat traditional that the parents want to 678 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: pay for or contribute to the wedding. It's hard because 679 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 5: I don't think you can necessarily turn around and say, well, 680 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 5: you've paid for something for one person you have to pay. 681 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: In an ideal world, yes, it would all be fair, 682 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: but at the same time, you know, I've also said 683 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 5: on this show before, like nobody owes anybody anything, like 684 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: you shouldn't expect your parents to pay for a wedding, 685 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: a house deposit. 686 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: Or anything else. 687 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 5: Do I think that you know there's something to be 688 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: said about I do think you should definitely have a 689 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 5: conversation explain the perspective to them of well, I'm never 690 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 5: planning on being married, But does that mean that my 691 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: other things that I hope to do, purchasing a house 692 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: or traveling or doing whatever, are less valuable and don't 693 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: deserve to be You know, I think there is a 694 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: lot of gray to play in here, because on one hand, 695 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: I very much don't think they owe anything. But on 696 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: the other hand, I do also think that there's something 697 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: to be said for providing, equally valuing, equally respecting decisions 698 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 5: that your children might make. And I don't really know 699 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: that I have a good answer for that, but I 700 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: guess my reflection is just very much echoing what you 701 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: said back that more and more people are choosing non 702 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: traditional pathways, and I think that should be celebrated. Like 703 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: I think, just because you don't want to follow the 704 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 5: path that has been laid out for us, particularly as 705 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: women for so many generations, you might disagree with marriages 706 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: and an institution because of, like you know, the history 707 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: of what it means. Yeah, you might want to have 708 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 5: a huge, beautiful wedding because that's fun and exciting, and 709 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: both of those things are okay, but like whatever path 710 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: you choose should be equally valued by the people around you, 711 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 5: is how I feel. 712 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: Totally. 713 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: I am so glad that both of you were like 714 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: so kind in your responses, and I echo all of that, 715 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: like I agree and would like to cut and paste 716 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: what you've said into my response, But then I'm also 717 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: going to say something that could get me canceled. And 718 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: that's perfectly okay, because like I sometimes see myself as 719 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: like your big sister when it comes to money, and 720 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: like you don't always want to hear what you big 721 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: sisters got to say, but sometimes it's really helpful, and 722 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: I think that's really entitled. I just look at it 723 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: and I go, your parents are choosing to do something 724 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: with their money. It is their choice. I can completely 725 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: see that you might go, oh, well, that's unfair because 726 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: I didn't get what they got. Why no, no care 727 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: about your own financial security, build your own financial future. 728 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't mention it. And that's why I'm saying, 729 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: like I could get ganceled, you can do whatever you want. 730 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 3: It can feel unfair, but also the spending that your 731 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: parents make is in line with their values, and if 732 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: they made the choice to help you with something big, 733 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure they would broach that. I don't think you 734 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: need to jump up and down and say, hey, please 735 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: value my life as much as this. I also think 736 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: that sometimes we forget how much they might have contributed 737 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: to other things growing up. Like there's this really good 738 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a quote, but it's all 739 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: about how even in the same household, children don't experience 740 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: the same parents. So like when one day I have 741 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: more children, like the parenting that my next child gets 742 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: in comparison to Harvey is not going to be the same. 743 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: Their experiences are coming from different lenses. They are different people. 744 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: They will be treated differently, not because it's not fair, 745 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: but just because one might have a learning difficulty and 746 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: I need to invest more in their tutoring than the other. 747 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: Or one might really love football and I invest in, 748 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: you know, making sure they go through that, and the 749 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: other ones to stay home play video game. Like you 750 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: are going to have different experiences and equal doesn't mean 751 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: a dollar amount from my perspective, like I think I 752 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: would be you know, if I extrapolate this out even 753 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: just to a work sense, right, like if I go 754 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: down to the cafe with Jess at lunchtime and I 755 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: buy her coffee and then she comes up to goes, 756 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: oh my god, money, when V brought me coffee? Would 757 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: you turn around and go, well, why did she get coffee? 758 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: I want a coffee? Like it just is that sense 759 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: of entitlement that it's like I do feel like overtime, 760 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: these things ebb and flow, and like, you know what, 761 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: we hear it in the community all the time. And 762 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: you know what, the most stereotypical thing is when the 763 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: older sister is complaining about the younger brother, They're like, 764 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, Like I had to work for bloody 765 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: everything I got, Like I got my first job, I 766 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: did this, I saved up for my first car, I 767 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: bought it. And then for my brother's eighteenth birthday, he 768 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: just got gifted a car. 769 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 6: What the heck? 770 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: Like, I'm not saying that any of these things are right, 771 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: but I think we need to kind of stay in 772 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: our own lane. And the most healthy approach to this 773 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: is like work on your own financial confidence and your 774 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: own financial independence and like celebrate the choices that you've 775 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: made because they were the right ones for you. Like 776 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: you're not going to get married, and I know that 777 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: your parents are saying they would come back and be like, well, 778 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: Jess Curry, if you got married, would pay for your bidding. 779 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: Don't worry. That is not a reflection of how much 780 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: they care about you. That is a reflection of their values. 781 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: And maybe they're really outdated stereotypes based on weddings that 782 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: your dad should be paying for your wedding, do you 783 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I just don't think it's 784 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: a reflection of your parents not caring or loving for you. 785 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: And if you distill that down to finances, I kind 786 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: of go, what the heck, that's not what life's about. Sure, 787 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like it's there's so 788 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: many ways that you could look at it so exactly. 789 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that I don't agree with the 790 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: two of you who had much kinder responses, but I 791 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 3: was like, can we just talk about this entitlement piece, 792 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: because like, I do know someone like that and they're like, oh, well, 793 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 3: my parents spent X and they literally go and ask 794 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: their parents for the same similar cash amount and I go, 795 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: that's because I benefited the parents. Yeah, Like that's it 796 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: just gives me the ick, Like I just really don't 797 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: like it. And maybe that's just because again I'm so 798 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: black and white that I'm like, there's right and there's Well, 799 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I can't live in the gray and 800 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: give you context, but I also think does that resonate? 801 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: If so, maybe take that with a grain of salt 802 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 3: as well. 803 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: What did everybody else think? I feel like there's gonna 804 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: be lots of There was, and there was. 805 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 3: It was a little bit spicy. So the first question 806 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: I asked was, guys, how would you handle this situation. 807 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: Forty four percent of you said, let it go, it's 808 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: their choice, twenty seven percent said have a conversation about fairness, 809 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: twenty one percent of you would ask for the same 810 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: amount for another milestone, and nine percent said I'd be 811 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 3: quietly resentful. Next question I asked was should the money 812 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: a parent gives for a wedding be matched with the 813 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: same amount for siblings who choose not to marry? And 814 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: this is pretty fifty to fifty fifty one percent of 815 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: you said yep, it's only fair. Forty nine percent of 816 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: you said, no, weddings are different interesting, And then I said, 817 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: what's your two cents? And you, guys, let it rip? 818 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: So first person said, my parents raised us on the 819 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: basis of what they do for one child, they will 820 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: always do for all Cool. But that's where the argument 821 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: of like your parents go, will beck, if you want 822 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: to get married, we'd pay for your wedding. 823 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'd do that for you too. I'd be like, 824 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 6: here's a chunk of money. You can use it for 825 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 6: a wedding, you can use that for a business, you 826 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 6: can use that for a travel Yeah. 827 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: I quite like that idea, do you know? 828 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 5: I think there's something having a conversation with them and 829 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 5: just asking why is the wedding the thing that you 830 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 5: think is worth fun? Is it that outdated? You feel 831 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 5: like it's your responsibility to pay. Like, our parents are 832 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 5: of an age where they do come from a different time, 833 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 5: and I think there's something in just having the conversation 834 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 5: to understand their perspective, not necessarily to change it. 835 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true for me. 836 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: I just look at it and go, oh, okay, So 837 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: your parents are probably spending their money in line with 838 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: their values, and like that's a good thing. Next person said, 839 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 3: parents are emotionally driven when investing in a wedding. There 840 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: is a very big social aspect to that. Not money. 841 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 4: Ah, that does make sense. Yeah, that's a great point. 842 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: Next person, Financial help should be provided if and when 843 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: it's needed. It doesn't need to be dollar for dollar equal. 844 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: Sure, that's fair. 845 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 3: Next person said, weddings should not be the only thing 846 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: that is celebrated in our lives, and our parents should 847 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: learn to match. 848 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Yes. 849 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 3: Another person said, who's to say you won't get married 850 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: in twenty years? Things could absolutely change. It's also a 851 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 3: fat take. Then I've got a little too parter. Often 852 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 3: parents want their kids to get married, so they're happy 853 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 3: to put that bill. Some want kids to buy homes, 854 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: so they gift a house deposit. Everybody is different. And 855 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: then I have three more for you. I have one 856 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: more two parter. Someone said, so, before becoming a parent, 857 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: I would have totally thought it was unfair and that 858 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 3: they should be compensated in another way. But now as 859 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: a parent, I know that I don't owe my kids 860 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: any money at all. And then the last one is 861 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: equality versus equity. If you're not having a wedding or 862 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: a baby, then you actually don't need help with that expense. 863 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: Why are you asking? Oh that makes sense to actually yeah, 864 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 3: so yeah, but that's why it's so nuanced. Yeah, but 865 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: like I actually kind of like that. Your parents have said, 866 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: our values are if you choose to get married, we 867 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 3: are happy to put that bill. Yes, Like we're not gifting. 868 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: Like I think in the flip side, your parents could 869 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: turn around and say, well, Jessica's getting married. If she 870 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: asked us for twenty thousand dollars, we'd say no. But 871 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: if she's getting married, we will put that bill because 872 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 3: that's aligned to our values and our goals and what 873 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 3: we want to be spending our money on. But if 874 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 3: she chooses not to get marrible, we're not funding it. 875 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's true. And I guess it's like, are you 876 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: gonna have a birthday party this year? Yes, well I 877 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 2: pay for it. If you don't, then. 878 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm not paying for your birthday listen movie not getting 879 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: cash instead? 880 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, And. 881 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 6: After the wedding, they're not going to have cash to show, 882 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 6: but they're not going to be better off they just 883 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 6: paid for the wedding. 884 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: I guess it okay, but again it's. 885 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: Just about like, let's really thinking this through. And I 886 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 3: think that's where you know, when I distell it down, 887 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: maybe it's because I've had so many conversations, and maybe 888 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: I have been privy to a lot of entitlement throughout 889 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 3: my career, and that's because I worked in the ultra 890 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: high net wealth space, And like, I cannot tell you 891 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 3: how many times I've wanted to fly across a table 892 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 3: and fly kick someone because I'm like, can you not 893 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: see the privilege that you have? And you're still complaining? Like, 894 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just maybe that's coming out of 895 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: me in a little bit of a spicy way today. 896 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: So maybe I need to go to McDonald's and get 897 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 3: a really crispy coking cold. 898 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: All right, Well that's the end of the show. 899 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: Then, guys, thank you so much for sticking around for 900 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 3: another Friday episode, and we'll see you bright and early 901 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 3: on Monday day morning for a money diary, Bye Buys. 902 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 7: The advice shared on She's on the Money is general 903 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 7: in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. 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