1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Malini's twenty twenty 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: one Autumn range. Mlini offers it all, from everyday boots 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: to urban style combat boots. You're sure to find something 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: that suits your personal style. This is Outspoken. The podcast 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. Our 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and issues facing women. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: That is so fatch. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's been a bit of a busy week 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: for you, Amy, because not only have you worked full time, 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: but you have also got the dreaded notification that you 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: were up for a rental inspection. Yes, oh my gosh, 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: my heart dropped because I remember back in the day 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: when Kate, Sophi and I used to live with each other. 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: We used to just be so upset when we got 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: these reminders. Because I suppose this is a bit of 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: a story time, but we used to have the worst 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: landlord and we used to have to spend probably i'd say, 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: well like twenty hours cleaning for a house inspection. It 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: was usually the whole weekend, and then we would be 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: cleaning right up into the night the day before and 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: then in the morning as well. And I mean, I 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: do think it was because we were hoarders and had 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I see, I was about to 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: point out that it's not because I was really really dirty. 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: It's because these people had incredibly high and ridiculous expectation. 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: And when you say high expectations, these people expected us 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: to use car polish on the tiles. They literally had 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: a manual and they explained how to clean everything. So 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: there was it was probably about two pages explaining how 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: to clean tiles and grout. Remember that time we had 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: that phone call from the landlord and he didn't realize 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: that we had two cats on the property. And let's 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: be honest, everybody lies about having pets. That's because you 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: just can't get a rental. Otherwise it's just a white lie. Yeah, exactly. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: And I remember he rung Kate and he's like, do 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: you own a cat? And Kate's like, of course, we 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: don't own a cat. And then he's like you own 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: a cat and Kate's like, we don't, and he's like 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: you do, and Kate's like, okay, yeah, we do, and 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: she left a photo up of her and our cat Bentley. 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh it could have been mum and Dad's cat, Like 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: they don't know that. I feel like they probably found 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: fur because our cats molt so much. It's actually ridiculous. 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: They're rag dolls and I've never known a cat to 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: have fur like they do. This real estate agent was 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: an absolute creep though. I remember we were there during 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: one of the inspections and we wanted to keep an 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: eye on him because basically they had this long running 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: issue about our carpet and it was the cheapest carpet 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: upstairs and on the staircase. So we were trying to 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. So he didn't know that 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: we could see, but he walked upstairs and he was 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: trying to kick this area of carpet up to make 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: it look like it had been ripped up. He then 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: went into Kate's bedroom and started rummaging through her nicker 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: draw I know, it was so funny because Amy saw 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: him and was like, I can see you doing that, 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, what what? They so fully open all 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: of our draws in the kitchen in the bathroom sage. 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: You guys, Remember this is going to make us sound bad, 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: but you guys used to share at on suite and 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you had that toilet seat and because you used to 66 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: fake tan so much, the toilet seat turned orange. And 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: they were saying that we'd have to replace the toilet seat. 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Were like, it's just fake tan, Like we can clean 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: it off. I think that's happened to a lot of people. 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: One of my friends said that her toilet seat turned orange. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Maybe in our Facebook community, people can let us know 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: if they've had the same experience. I think what you 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: have to do is I have because I'm aware of 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: it now. Anytime I've done a fake tan and sit down, 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I have to get the toilet paper and scrub around 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: it immediately. I more make a little cushioning of toilet 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: paper around the bowl, so you're sitting on the toilet paper. 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: You know how you do that you have a toilet 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: and then we get onto toilet talk again, this is disgusting. 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: If I'm in quite a common thing, well, this is 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: making me so happy to own my own house and 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: hopefully never have to go through this rental inspection process again. 83 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: But really, our experience with this landlord escalated to the 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: point where so they demanded that we had a reinspection 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: because the floor was streaky. Now, oh my god, we 86 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: have a friend that does is like a professional in 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: this area, and they said that there's no way that 88 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: you can say that the floor has streaks in it 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: like that is not a fence that you have to 90 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: have a reinspection. That's the thing. The whole idea behind 91 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: an inspection is so they can basically come in and 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: see if it's tidy, or if there's bloody holes in 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the wall, or if you've ruined something. Is not to 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: judge your cleaning anyway. So with this reinspection, we didn't 95 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: want to be there because we felt like this landlord 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: had harassed us, like opening up our draws and whatnot, 97 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: somm looking at your underpants or whatnot. So how mum 98 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: was a legend and decided that she would be at 99 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the house when this reinspection was going on. And you 100 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: know when your mum doesn't really know how to use 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: her mobile phone, so they started, I think opening something. 102 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: They tried to open the kitchen draws, which they're actually 103 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: not legally allowed intoth Australia. But we also had a 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: camera set up in one of the bedrooms if he 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: rummaged again. Anyway, Mum knew this that she decided that 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: she would start filming the person inspecting on her phone 107 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: and the person goes, are you filming me? Mom's like, 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: I think so, and so basically, this rental property inspector 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: then called the police on our mum because he said 110 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: that she filmed him without his consent. Now the police 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: rocked up. It gets that crazy and they came in 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: and they're like, what's going on, and Mum explained it 113 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: was a reinspection, and the police officer said, I have 114 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: a rental and if the girls want to live there, 115 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: they can because this place is absolutely spotless. For the 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: best part of that that was Mom actually had been 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: recording them, and she came home after and showed us 118 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: the video, and it was so funny because she's like, 119 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: they're like, are you filming us? She's like, I have 120 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: no idea what I'm doing on my phone. I don't 121 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: know if I'm filming, I don't know if I'm not 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: just a loving continue rolling. It's safe to say that 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: the woman whose house we were renting from had severe OCD. Yeah, exactly, right, So, yeah, 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: that sounds story. Fortunately we managed to rent after this 125 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: process because you have to list these people on your 126 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: bloody reference, so they were bagging us out a whole 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: bunch too respective houses. The best thing is, I have 128 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: been in my rental now for almost a year and 129 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: we have had no inspection. I would really love to 130 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: see if it's just us that have had this shitty experience, 131 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: or are other people dealing with landlords from hell? My 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: landlords are amazing right now, I think it's just this 133 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: particular landlord. But go into our group and tell us 134 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: if you've had a similar experience. No, I'm sick of yourself. 135 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: She's a one girl man. 136 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: We want to do our own shit. 137 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Kean own shit, kean own shit. 138 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: It's a fucking normal thing. Keen your own fucking shits. 139 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: On Wednesday night, A Current Affair led its national bulletin 140 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: with a story about notorious Instagram accounts celebs spellcheck. The 141 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: package teased would unveil the identity behind the account, but 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: it did nothing more than disappoint millennials and gen zetters 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: who tuned in. For those who didn't see it, what 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: was covered in this special report amy well to be honest, 145 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: I really wasn't much that was covered in this report. 146 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: It touted itself as a special investigation, but there really 147 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: wasn't much investigative journalist journalism going on. The story was 148 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: covered by journalist Seb Costello, and he basically interviewed mummy 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: blogger Olivia White, who she'd appeared on celeb Spellcheck after 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: she mistaken to Capsican for a cucumber, and the story 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: was basically her just pretending that she wasn't bothered by 152 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the page when she clearly was. Firstly, the choice of 153 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: journalists was very puzzling because it was quite clear Seb's 154 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Costello did not follow celeb Spelcheck nor knew much about it. 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: You would have thought they would have picked a younger, 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: potentially female member of the team to do the team investigation. 157 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: She is quite young. I would say he would be 158 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: one of the younger reporters. Really, yeah, but he's hardly 159 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: the key demographic of celeb Spelcheck, which I'm assuming is 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: ninety percent women. Yeah, exactly right. I did not see 161 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: him as a key demographic nor someone that was interested 162 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: in the page, and that was fairly obvious when you 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: watched the show, because literally it just presented some funny 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: gaffs that had been made, and it was very much 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: focused on what the name says in the title the 166 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: spelling errors. However, Celebt's Spellcheck has evolved into much more 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: than that. The page really took off when she started 168 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: holding influences to account and there was none of that. 169 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, Amy, they had Olivia White 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: on the show and there was no mention of the 171 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: fact that Celeb'spelcheck had called her out for the Ali 172 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: Barber glasses. And for anyone who doesn't know that story, 173 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: we did a whole podcast episode that will link in 174 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: the show notes about it. But essentially, Olivia created these 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: glasses that she said were modeled off her mother and 176 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: her grandmother's bodies. However, they actually were glasses that she 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: purchased from Ali Barber for like two dollars and she 178 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: was selling them for about fifty to seventy dollars. So 179 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it was very strange that a current affair didn't seem 180 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: to want to interview her about that, which is basically 181 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: the essence of why Celeb's Spellcheck's page is so popular. 182 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: They probably had no idea that she was even doing it. 183 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: It was clear they had not much of an idea 184 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: of what celeb' spellcheck was, even in the promo when 185 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: they're like and it pays out celebrities and sports stars, 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: it really doesn't. It's mainly influenced. This is when a 187 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day a sports star like. It's just ridiculous. The 188 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: other thing they seem to fail to capture is the 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: fact that during COVID people have revolted against the idea 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: of influencers and what they stand for. They could have 191 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: actually done a great investigative piece looking at why that's 192 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: the case and why so many people are actually enjoying 193 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: this context. So if you don't be silly, they did 194 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: interview an academic. My favorite part of the whole story 195 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: was when they spoke to doctor Brent Cocker from the 196 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: University of Melbourne and he said such basic information. He 197 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: said that influencers should expect to receive negative feedback. I mean, 198 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: isn't that groundbreaking? But what cracked me up was that 199 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Sophie and I used to work it Today Tonight, which 200 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: is of course the old rival of a current affair, 201 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: and whenever we wanted to do stories that were based 202 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: off Instagram, I remember the boss would say, you had 203 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: to go down and speak to someone at the university 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: to give the story credit. But the whole thing was 205 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: why didn't they speak to a lawyer like we did 206 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: in our interview about celeb Spellcheck? It made no sense 207 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: or a social commentator. Yeah, do you know what would 208 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: have just been basic journalism one oh one. Let's head 209 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: out to the streets and ask the public. Let's ask 210 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: some millennials or Jenzettas what they think of it, and 211 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: they might have actually captured what the feeling about Celeb's 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Spellcheck is. Yeah, exactly right, because it was. I mean, 213 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm very shocked that Olivia White allowed to be interviewed. 214 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: She did actually go onto her Instagram story after seeing 215 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the preview and said, oh God, like, this is not 216 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: what I thought it would be. And I'm thinking, well, 217 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: what did you think it would be? Well, it was 218 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: absolutely hilarious when the journal seb asked Olivia, oh, do 219 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: you know who Celebri's Spellcheck is? And she basically replied 220 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: that you know, no, she doesn't, and she's not too 221 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: bothered about it. Well, why are you being interviewed about it? 222 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: That was so funny. It was like, yeah, I'm not bothered, 223 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: but I've just given up my day to be on TV. 224 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: I did find it funny though, because when I saw 225 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: the preview, I thought that they might be putting forward 226 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: their guesses of who celeb spellcheck is, because we've seen 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: in other publications that a lot of people are pointing 228 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: their fingers towards a person that works in the media. 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that's from Melbourne. Like, they didn't even have a 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: list of the stats on what we know about celebs 231 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: spell and they didn't even speak about how many socialites 232 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: in Melbourne are actually trying to track her down and 233 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: a threatening legal action. Gest it was very strange. There 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: was no mention of the defamation, none of the drama 235 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: which a current affair is usually very much about. It 236 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: was very perplexing. Do you guys think it was a 237 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: good move for Olivia to appear on the program? No, 238 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't really think it was a very good idea 239 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: because for those who didn't know the backstory about what 240 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: celebspelcheck actually said about Olivia and thought it was just 241 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: a gaff over capsican and cucumber, it made her look 242 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: a bit pathetic. Yeah. Well, even looking at it from 243 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: a journalistic perspective, as of someone who has worked at 244 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: one of these shows before. When you develop story ideas, 245 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: we're always told to think of the lowest common denominator 246 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: because that is generally in a current Affair style programs audience. 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: So it's the battler's at home, it's you know, middle 248 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: aged people. So in gauging whether it was a good 249 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: idea for her to be there, she probably gained a 250 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: whole bunch of followers that probably do fall into her demographic. 251 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: That is a good point. I did notice that A 252 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Current Affair pitched a lot of their stories at the 253 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: gen Z Millennial Market, and I do feel like perhaps 254 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: this was an attempt to attract that audience, but I 255 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: feel like they failed miserably because the feedback in our 256 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: community and generally online was that the story was absolutely crap. 257 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: It did work pretty well for them. They won their 258 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: time slot and were the sixth most watched show on 259 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: TV last night with seven hundred and seventy four thousand viewers, 260 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: but if you compare those figures to the same time 261 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: last week, they only had three thousand extra viewers, And 262 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: even if they did get a whole bunch of new viewers, 263 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: I doubt that they would have retained any of them 264 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: moving forward. Not only did the report fall really short, 265 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: but people were really disappointed because originally it was advertised 266 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: that they were going to have the segment on on 267 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, so people sat through the whole Current Affair 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: program to be told then at the last minute, oh no, 269 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: that story will actually be appearing on Wednesday night. Do 270 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you guys think that was their intention to kind of 271 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: hook people over two episodes or do you think it 272 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: was because the Australia Post story had kind of just 273 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: broken Because when that went on, I was like recently 274 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: cover to the project and it was also on the project, 275 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: so I think it potentially could have been bumped out. Well, 276 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: are there are situations where I have seen that happen, 277 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, working at Today tonight before, so it could 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: well have happened. What a punishment for people though, who 279 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: were thinking, I'm going to watch his fun celeb's belcheck 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: story and what did they watch? I mean, I saw 281 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: a Current Affair the other night and there was a 282 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: complaint about somebody having an Australian flag up in their backyard. 283 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: It's hardly hard hitting stories there. No, Well, I was 284 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: actually pretty disappointed because I think the story has a 285 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: lot of legs and it could be a really great story. 286 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, as we said, they've really failed. We do 287 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: have to understand who's making these decisions in the newsrooms. 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: It's a lot of older men who probably don't understand 289 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: how important or interesting this story is to young people 290 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: and what do we expect from a current affair. At 291 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, levang is basically slang and 292 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: living our best life into one word. It's the new 293 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: that'sa We're taking a quick break from the episode to 294 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: tell you a little bit more about today's episode. 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It ll be like sisters 304 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and we should all have each other's backs. 305 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: But fuck, who knows these girls are have. 306 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Work, aren't they? As a big real Housewives of Melbourne 307 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: found I'm so disappointed the cast for the fifth series 308 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: has been revealed and there's no Gina and Lydia. I 309 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: was pretty surprised because they actually announced the season five 310 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: cast around this time last year, and the show went 311 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: into production with Gina and Lydia. However it had to 312 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: halt for COVID and now suddenly they're not on it 313 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: and they've got four new housewives. Do you think that 314 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: it could have been a decision that was made by 315 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Lydia and Gina? Yeah, definitely. I mean, Lydia's come out 316 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: on social media and basically said the break gave her 317 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: time to realize how important her family was in her life. 318 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: So it seems like maybe she's not doing Housewives this 319 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: year for family reasons. But Gina hasn't really said too much. 320 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: She just wished everybody luck and said that she'd miss everyone. Yeah. 321 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: I saw Gina's post and was very confused because I 322 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: actually saw that and then saw the announcement and I 323 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: was like, what, like, Gina Leano is Melbourne Housewives. I 324 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: wonder though, if Lydia is saving face because seeing her 325 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: character and persona on the show. I wouldn't think that 326 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: she would like being cut from the show, and she'd 327 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: want some sort of an excuse. There is no way 328 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: they would have asked Lydia and Gina, because that would 329 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: have meant they would have only had two long standing 330 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: cast members in Gamble Bro and Janet Roach left. I 331 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: am really excited though, because they are bringing Jackie back, 332 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: and I feel like that decision has come about because 333 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Gina and Lydia have gone, because I mean, I'm not 334 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: really that interested in the new people. All the new 335 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: people they've brought on haven't been very good and haven't 336 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: lasted very long. I'm also extra excited about Jackie returning 337 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: because she has been documenting her IVF process on Instagram 338 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: and I really hope that they showcase that on the 339 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: television show because I think it's a really important message 340 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: for women, and she's been very positive and open about 341 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well. People are also upset because they 342 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: thought that Petti Flour might come back after her appearance 343 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. I 344 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen Gamble and Petti Flair 345 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: team up together because we had Gamble on the podcast 346 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I think around this time last year. We'll have to 347 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: put a link to it in the show notes, and 348 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: she was saying that she's become quite good friends with Pettiflir, 349 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: but on the show they were enemies. Well, I've still 350 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: let listeners in on a little secret. We actually it's 351 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: not a secret, well not really secret, but we actually 352 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: appeared for a brief moment on Real Housewives of Melbourne 353 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: during Gamble's son's twenty first birthday. This was a real 354 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: flex moment. We were invited to Gambles Sun's birthday because 355 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Sof and Amy have done some pr work for her 356 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: and we well, I was gonna say we happened to 357 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: be in Melbourne, but we did drop everything all white 358 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: across So if you could blink and you would miss 359 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: us in the show, it's actually hilarious. We have to 360 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: find the screenshot somewhere. Well, let's see if anyone is 361 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: a real big fan of Melbourne Housewives. Let's see if 362 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: anyone can spot us, because it's pretty funny. Also, if 363 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: anyone's actually interested, I feel like we could do a 364 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: story time on our experience watching them film the show, 365 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: because it really did put things into perspective. I mean, 366 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I still think it's very real, but I just don't 367 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: know how much the producers really played into it. Yeah, 368 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: we saw a walkout. There was a massive walkout moment. 369 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: They stormed past us and we were kind of just 370 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: sitting eating food and we're like, God, I hope I'm 371 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: not in the background. Yeah. Anyway, if anyone does want 372 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: to hear about that, we can go into it on 373 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: another episode. 374 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna aware I'm the fucking queen fact. 375 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: In the next segment, we touch on matters involving mental 376 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: health and suicide. If you are struggling, please reach out 377 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: to Lifeline. On thirteen eleven fourteen. Now moving on to 378 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: some bachelor news and Colton Underwood, who was the former 379 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: US Bachelor and he was really known for being the 380 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: virgin Bachelor. He has come out as gay and I 381 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: thought this was so brave of him, particularly when you 382 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: hear more about his story. So so can you fill 383 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: us in well. Colton shared this news in an interview 384 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: he did with Good Morning America on Wednesday, and he 385 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: said that it was earlier this year that he actually 386 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: came to terms with his sexuality. Here's what he said, I've. 387 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: Ran from myself for a long time. I've hated myself 388 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: for a long time, and I'm gay and I came 389 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: to terms with that earlier this year and have been 390 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: processing it. And the next step in all of this 391 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: was sort of letting people know. Nervous, but yeah, it's 392 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: it's been a journey for sure. I got into a 393 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: place for me in my personal life that it was 394 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: dark and bad, and I can list a bunch of 395 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: different things, but they'd all be excuses. But I think 396 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: overall the reason why now is because I got to 397 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: a place where I didn't think I was ever going 398 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: to share this. I don't. I would have rather died 399 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: than say I'm gay. There was a moment in LA 400 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: that I woke up and I didn't think I was 401 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: going to wake up. I didn't have the intentions of 402 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: waking up, and I did. And I think for me 403 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: that was like my wake up call of like, this 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: is your life, take back control. Looking back even beyond 405 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: that is like even just suicidal thoughts and you know, 406 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: drive my car close to a cliff, like, oh, if 407 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: this goes off the cliff, it's not that big of 408 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 2: a deal. I don't feel that anymore. I literally remember 409 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: praying to God the morning I found out that I 410 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: was a bachelor and thanking him for making me straight. 411 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: I remember that vividly of saying like, finally you're letting 412 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: me be straight. Finally you're giving me a wife, a fiance, 413 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: and then I'm going to have the kids, and then 414 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to have the house, and then I'm going 415 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: to have all this. One thing about being labeled the 416 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 2: virgin bachelor is I fully was a virgin before that, 417 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: and I could never give anybody a good enough answer 418 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: of why I was a virgin. The truth is I 419 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: was a virgin bachelor because I was gay and I 420 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: didn't know how to handle it. 421 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: It really breaks my heart to hear his voice shaking 422 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: during this, And as you said, Kate, I think it 423 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: is so incredibly brave for him to come out and 424 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: be so open about his sexuality in this way, particularly 425 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: knowing that he was going to cop some flak for 426 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: putting himself out there as the Bachelor. Yeah, I feel 427 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: like there will be a lot of people out there 428 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: questioning his motives around going on the Bachelor. And for 429 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: those who didn't see the full interview, he explained that 430 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: because he grew up Catholic, he saw being invited onto 431 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: The Bachelor as a sign that he should really try 432 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: with women. So it's all very messy. I mean, he 433 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: really got a name for himself, as I said, for 434 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: being the virgin on The Bachelor, and then also for 435 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: his outlandish actions when he was chasing after Cassie Randolph. 436 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: And then again he was in the news for allegedly 437 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: stalking Cassie. So it's very much a sad story, and 438 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: I feel like when I heard this news, I wasn't 439 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: really surprised because I felt like the Coulton that we 440 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: saw on The Bachelor wasn't truly himself. Yeah, it's so 441 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: brave for him to come out as well, because I 442 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: feel like it's going to help so many people in 443 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: America and all around the world because he clearly thought 444 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: he couldn't come out because of his religion and or 445 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: also coming from a sports background. People don't realize he 446 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: was a professional athlete before appearing on The Bachelor, so hard. 447 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: The thing that's really sad as well is that he 448 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: shared the fact that since the age of six, he 449 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: has actually felt very different and knew that he was gay. 450 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: He said he used to wake up in the morning 451 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: and pray for God to take the gay away from him. 452 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: He said, I used to pray for him to change me. 453 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: I literally remember praying to God the morning I found 454 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: out I was on the Bachelor and thanking him for 455 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: making me straight. I remember that vividly, and saying, finally 456 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: you're letting me be straight. Finally you're giving me a wife, 457 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: a fiance. And despite the fact that he's now said 458 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: he's the happiest he's ever been, he did open up 459 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: that his sexuality got him into a really dark place 460 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: where he did have some suicidal thoughts. It's just so 461 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: sad in this day and age that people still feel 462 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: like they have to hide who they really are. My 463 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: heart really breaks for him, and I'm just so happy 464 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: that he is able to share his story with everyone because, 465 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: as Amy you said earlier, it's going to help so 466 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: many people. It also shows what a huge moment this 467 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: was for him, because he said that in the past 468 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: he would have rather die than say that he was gay. God, Well, 469 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: does this open the doors for a more diverse bachelor? 470 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean, last year America finally had their first black bachelor, 471 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: which was ridiculous. It took this long, But wouldn't it 472 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: be amazing to get Colton back on the show and 473 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: actually have him choose between men. I mean, that would 474 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: just be an amazing show to watch. Well, since the 475 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: interviewed actually aired, the executive producers of The Bachelor showed 476 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: their support for Colton and really praised him for coming 477 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: out and speaking what they called his truth. They said, 478 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: We're so inspired by Colton Underwood's courage to embrace and 479 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: pursue his authentic self. So I think it is great 480 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: that the show has come out and supported him in 481 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: this way. I would not be surprised if Colton appears 482 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: again as a Bachelor, but as a gay bachelor, and 483 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be amazing to watch. Well, Interestingly, he's deleted 484 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: all his posts on Instagram, so I do wonder how 485 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: if Cassie Randolph is going to come out and say something, 486 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: or whether he has spoken to her before having this interview. Well, 487 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: I really hope she doesn't come out and publicly speak 488 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: because this is clearly a very private matter and I 489 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: think Colton has done an excellent job at sharing his 490 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: truth and I don't think we need any more speculation 491 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: about what's been going on I think there is room 492 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: for her to come out and say something because it 493 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: is something that has impacted her life as well, and 494 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: it is something that a number of other women may 495 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: be able to relate to have found themselves in a 496 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: similar position. I think she has to be respectful, of course, 497 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: but people may want to see how she's feeling after 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: this has come out. I do think potentially if she 499 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: comes out as an ally to Colton. However, it seems 500 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: like it was a bit of a messy breakup and 501 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: there was a lot going on in terms of her 502 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: getting restraining ordersm that sort of thing against him. So 503 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: I just hope whatever is said is said in a positive, 504 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: supportive way. And that's all we have time for. Thank 505 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for today's episode. 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