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Speaker 1: Now, there was a lot happening last week with Parliament sitting,

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Speaker 1: so you might have missed a few things, and the

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Speaker 1: government did announce a new and improved bus tracker app

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Speaker 1: that's being rolled out now. The app provides what they

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Speaker 1: say is real time information about buses, initially for Darwin

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Speaker 1: and Palmerston Alice Springs to come online soon now. The

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Speaker 1: Minister for Logistics and Infrastructure, Bill Yan said the new

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Speaker 1: NTI Bus Tracker app is another step to give passengers

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Speaker 1: greater confidence to feel safe and informed when they get

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Speaker 1: on the bus network. Now, Minister Bill Yan joins me

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Speaker 1: on the line right now. Good morning to your minister.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning to everybody up there

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Speaker 2: on the top end.

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Speaker 3: Now, Minister, what exactly does this app do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we had the old app which was sort

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Speaker 2: of not working as it was supposed to, so the

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Speaker 2: department said, got to move on. I've got the new

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Speaker 2: bus tracker app online. So what this does, Katie, It

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Speaker 2: gives people the ability to see that bus real time,

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Speaker 2: so you can I think you can download it via

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Speaker 2: the Apple Store or via Google Play for other devices.

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Speaker 2: But this starts now to work into that bigger piece

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Speaker 2: on that whole network stuff Katie around the closure of

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Speaker 2: the Casuarina in a change, so there'll be different stops

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Speaker 2: we can grab a bus to go onto your different

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Speaker 2: locations around Casuarina now and the app plays a part

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Speaker 2: in that, so you can see real time where your

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Speaker 2: bus is at. Look at one hundred meters down right

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Speaker 2: long it's going to be before it's at your stop,

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Speaker 2: and then you can jump on the bus and then

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Speaker 2: move on to your next destination. So this will then

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Speaker 2: work into the bigger piece we're doing around the changes

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Speaker 2: to the actual dal and sitting in a change and

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Speaker 2: of course out to Parmo and I think us mob

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Speaker 2: Dan here and Alis. We'll get the app a little

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Speaker 2: bit later, but it's up and running now in Darham,

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Speaker 2: which is great to see.

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Speaker 1: It is it is good to see and particularly if

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Speaker 1: you're catching the bus every day. And as some of

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Speaker 1: those routes change with like you've touched on the closure

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Speaker 1: of the Casuarina and go and bus interchanges, where are

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Speaker 1: things at with those?

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that we're still on course for the

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Speaker 2: closure out at Casuarina by October so the work's being

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Speaker 2: done on that now and there's some consultation papers I

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Speaker 2: believe that are out from the department, So because questions

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Speaker 2: app helps with that of course. So that's on schedule

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Speaker 2: for October. The Darwin City one is not too far

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Speaker 2: away after that. I believe Parmesan is a little bit

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Speaker 2: probably be the last piece in that and that larger project.

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Speaker 2: So that work is being done, and we're doing a

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Speaker 2: review of the time network as well, timetables where bus

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Speaker 2: up to improve safety on the networks. Yeah, that's with

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Speaker 2: terratory families, Police DLI, the security officers and of course

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Speaker 2: that big important move of the transit safety officers across

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Speaker 2: to police auxiliary. So there's a lot happening at the

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Speaker 2: moment in the public Transport Network bill. Be exciting to

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Speaker 1: Those just after you'd raised it there with those transit

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Speaker 1: safety officers. The last time we spoke to the union,

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Speaker 1: across to those new PPSO positions. Is there any update there,

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't have the exact numbers off the top

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Speaker 3: Minister.

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Speaker 1: We've got lots of messages coming through on the text

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Speaker 1: line for you this morning.

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Speaker 3: I've got one, let's just come through.

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Speaker 1: When is the government going to get rid of the

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Speaker 1: bus stop at Woolworth's CBD.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that there's been a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: So you get to that one at Woolies and then

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Speaker 2: I think some of the buses had off down Garamune

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Speaker 2: So it's been raised with me. I'm having a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but it is something that is being looked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's been raised with me. And I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm having a little bit of look at it. It's

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Speaker 2: a really difficult one. We know that we know there's

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Speaker 2: issues on certain stops. That's part of this whole review

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Speaker 2: and it's how that we best address those.

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Speaker 1: Making and also though making sure people can still catch

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Speaker 1: Last week in Parliament you introduced the Transport Legislation Amendment Bill.

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Speaker 1: These reforms aim to give police stronger tools and courts

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Speaker 1: heavier penalties to keep territory and safe. Now they include

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Speaker 1: stronger penalties for a peed offenders that's when you're looking

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Speaker 3: Why are these changes required?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a couple of things there chaos. I'll

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Speaker 2: start with your bandoned vehicles. That was really an interesting

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Speaker 2: car parks. This change allows councils or authorized persons which

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Speaker 2: We've even seen, sadly, we've seen abandoned vehicles that are

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Speaker 2: So that this little change solves that problem. So so

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Speaker 2: it was really really difficult to get that move We've

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Speaker 1: On the seven days Is it Minister that like, after

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Speaker 1: seven days you can report it and hopefully get it

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Speaker 2: Now we've brought that back. It was previously seven days,

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Speaker 2: we've now reduced that to three. So we can make

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Speaker 2: and get some of those particularly some of those if

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Speaker 2: you get a car that's dumped somewhere and set on fire,

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Speaker 2: and previously, if it wasn't on the road or on

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Speaker 2: get it and move it. So these are good changes,

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Speaker 2: and it'll clean up some of these things that are

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Speaker 1: One of those things where it's like bureaucracy gone mad

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Speaker 1: in some ways with this kind of thing. If you've

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Speaker 1: how are we in a situation where it's not able

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what a lot of these changes are

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Speaker 2: Katie's common sense. And with the stuff for police who

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Speaker 2: this gives the power for the courts to do them cumultive,

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Speaker 2: so they can say, well, you'd get six months for

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Speaker 2: So the courts now had the ability to do them

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Speaker 2: that opportunity before. So it fixes up some loopholes and

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Speaker 1: Well, they sound like they're good. Changes minister, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about the Mandora upgrades. We know

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Speaker 1: that that obviously the construction of the eighty five million

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Speaker 1: be accessed or use. So until the sixteenth of this month.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us why not until the sixteenth and

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Speaker 1: really what these changes actually include.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this has been a bit of an ongoing saga, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I think for the people up in down twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I think this project was sort of spoken about in

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Speaker 2: and finally it's delivered. And look, there was a lot

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Speaker 2: EU and Woggi and of course of Mandora about access

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Speaker 2: to The initial plans didn't really didn't really meet those

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Speaker 2: disability access requirements, so there were some changes made there.

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Speaker 2: So the great thing now is like for disability people

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Speaker 2: and like mums and dads with prams and things, the

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Speaker 2: finishing off a few bits and pieces now for opening

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Speaker 2: on the sixteenth. So it's got a new big pontoon

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Speaker 2: and the two new big rock walls, so it'll hold

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Speaker 2: Some car park upgrades as well, and that is along

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Speaker 2: I was opposed to safeguard that facility long term. Now

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely standing. So the people over at Wagai

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Speaker 2: will certainly last a very very long time. We've got

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Speaker 2: those dredging pieces done over a Culum Bay. I've got

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Speaker 2: that done early a couple of weeks ago, so that

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely needed, you know.

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Speaker 2: And as you touch on top of that dredging now yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well and as you touched on though, you know that

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Speaker 1: disability access. But do you know what, even if you're

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's absolutely terrible to try and get in

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Speaker 1: lot of difficulties.

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Speaker 2: But Minister, those changes address that, which is great to see.

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Speaker 2: It makes it just makes life easy for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Minister.

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Speaker 1: We've got some avid fishermen obviously that listened to the show.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's messaged and said Katie. The Mandora Jetty is famous

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Speaker 1: as one of the best land based fishing spots in Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's very pop with locals and tourists. I know for

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Speaker 1: it says, can you please ask Minister jan about the

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Speaker 1: projected life of the Mandora Jetty now that it won't

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Speaker 1: be getting damaged by the mooring of the ferry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is something that's came up because for

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Speaker 2: Fishos too, they've been a bit of an avid fish

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Speaker 2: I think everybody knows that. It's spoken about in Parliament regularly.

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Speaker 2: We're doing some upgrades to the boat ramp over there

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Speaker 2: at Mandora as well. For Fishos The original jetty is

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Speaker 2: staying in place as a fishing platform, because I think

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Speaker 2: the original design was for a fishing platform as part

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Speaker 2: of the new jety facilities. But we're leaving the old

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Speaker 2: jetty in place, the old facility, the old structure in

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Speaker 2: place for fishing. We've got to assess it. Look, it

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Speaker 2: was always an issue for the fairies pulling up to

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Speaker 2: the course. Of course, that all important access. But we're

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Speaker 2: going to assess the structure and see what it looks

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Speaker 2: like and see if it needs any work, and if

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Speaker 2: it does, try and plan it into some future works

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Speaker 2: because okay, we want to leave the old structure there.

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Speaker 2: I hear fishers and fish. I'll do my absolute best

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Speaker 2: never to remove fishing infrastructure. I like to add it.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have a little bit of a look at it.

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Speaker 2: But it's staying in place there for land based fishing optionation.

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Speaker 2: So go and catch the ferry over and go and

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Speaker 2: sit the jetty and over fish.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a fantastic thing to do, Like I would

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Speaker 1: encourage anybody if you've never done it. It's beautiful to

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Speaker 1: go across there, and if you're early enough in the morning,

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Speaker 1: you catch the sunset like it's.

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Speaker 3: A beautiful, beautiful experience.

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Speaker 1: But so to those listening this morning that go and

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Speaker 1: fish there, that land based fishing, there is no plan

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Speaker 1: whatsoever to get rid of that Mandora jetty.

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Speaker 2: A lot of this stage, o k Now, we just

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Speaker 2: got to assess the structure, make sure it's safe. But

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Speaker 2: we've been using it for years now for the jetties

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Speaker 2: to pull up, so it's reasonably sound. We've just got

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Speaker 2: to make sure that whatever's there is going to be

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Speaker 2: there for the long term and if we will do

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Speaker 2: a little bit of work to it, we will so

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Speaker 2: we can keep those land based options Forfichows.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill Yan, the Minister for Various Portfolios also the

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Speaker 1: Treasurer of the Northern Territory, good to speak with you

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, you have a great day you too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,