1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: This is gem nation with Okay as Australians or as 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: people who live in Australia. We know we're coming into 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: magpie season, Magpie time. You get the magpies out in 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: the morning. Actually they have the most beautiful song, Ryan 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: j Am, I right, crack the window and what have 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: you done? 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: A little magpie? That's enough? 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Do magpies live overseas? Are they just Australian Brendan, you'll 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: get me strangely, I'm thinking about that. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Will you please google that for me? Right? So do 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: magpies look after overseas? Look overseas, live overseas? Yeah? I 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: wonder if they're native to Australia. There seems to be 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: an intrinsically Australian problem of being swooped every year. The 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: Japanese ambassador, he's got a nice sense of humor. He's 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: posted a picture of himself wearing a bike helmet. You know, 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: he's riding his bike outside and he's got chopsticks jammed 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: into it to fend off the magpies. But as he says, 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: he's scented the jet the chopsticks with sushi and wago 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: beef so that they associate him with the smell of 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: food and might like him. Did that work for him, well, 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: he said, Dear magpies, how about we call it a 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: truce this swooping season. I'm even trying to blend in. 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: If the urge to go after my helmet proves too tempting, 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: have a complimentary chopstick. They're centered with sushi and wagoo beef. 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Interesting the bird wild the bird life. Australian National Public 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Affairs Manager Sean Dooley has said that really the best 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: way to keep one on side is to feed it. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Whether you agree or not, the only foolproof method is 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: to make sure the magpie knows that you're a friend, 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: and the only foolproof method of doing that is to feed. 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: That's someone you're gonna put food all over your helmet. Well, 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the magpie that the magpie that people have fed almost 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: never swoops on the person who feeds them, and Chris 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Brown has said magpies have incredible brains. They remember the 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: faces of hundreds of people and remember whether they're friends 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: or foes. So rather than running hiding, hitting them with 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: a stick or an umbrella, you're just inflaming the situation. 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: He has said take a positive step towards peace. This 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: is hard, he said, and do it maybe with sunglasses on. 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Stand your ground, take off your hat, show them your 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: friendly face before moving on. Smile at the magpie. This 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: simple act should take you off their swoop list for 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: years to come. 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so you get them in New Guinea as well, 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: and then apparently we introduce them to New Zealand and 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: they're now like a pest. Work here is done. Kaitler's 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: joined us. 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: Hello Caitlin, good morning Josie and Amda how are you 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: very well? 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: How do you deal with it all? 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: So disclaimer, I am not a researcher into magpies, but 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: one thing that does need to be said is feed 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: them insects. Do not give them human food human food 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: because magpies are really susceptible to brittle bone syndrome. Oh 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: really yeah. They if they eat human food because it 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have all the nutrients and especially the calcium that 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: they need, which they get from like the insects exoskeletons, 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: they don't have enough calcium to build up their bones 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: and they get very sick and worse their chicks because 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: their chicks are getting a lot of you know, at 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: this time of year, most of the adults food is 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: going into you know, trying to get the chicks fully grown. 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: The chicks don't have the nutrients to actually build up 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: their bones, so they end up with horrible disfigurement in 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: their limbs. Their beaks literally will snap off. The only 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: kind thing to do is take them to the bat 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: and send them to the big sky in the sky. 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: So don't give them human food, don't give them bread, 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: and don't give them meat. 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: No. There are actually some things you can do though. 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: If you have a backyard and you haven't been spraying pesticide, 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: dig a hole and find some worms, right. 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: So you're gonna walk around with worms in your pocket, Kaitlin, 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: sacrifice your worms. Yeah. 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Another thing you can do is that the pet shop 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: you can buy mealworms. You can get one hundred grams 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: for what is it. It was about sixteen dollars last 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: time I had a look, but it's probably gone up 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: a bit since then. And you chuck them in the 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: fridge and they can live for a cup for a 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: month or two in the cold, and then you see 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: your magpies and then give them. 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: The hard thing is this way we make the magpies 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: dependent on us for food, which isn't either. You walk around, 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: what have you got in your bag? 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: You've got all sorts of food. 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: You've got a lady bar. I'm not going to give 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: control for the magpie. Lady bar. No, I think mealworms 91 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: is the way to guard. What do you got to 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: walk around with mealworms? 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: No? 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: You do it at home. You don't have them in 95 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: your pocket. Well, when you get sweep by the magpieger 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: off from something, and then what happens when you don't 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: have anything? Then but then they remember you. This is 98 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: the point is do it a couple of times, then 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: they remember you. Go you're birds flying around you flows 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: here as well. 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: Hello flow. 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: A cloth, Hello flo, Hello. 103 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: He clo, Hi my peer. Well, first of all, this 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: is a lovely surprise. Reak to your books. Nor my 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: period is much less scientific. I'm Irish, and we were 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: always told to salute them, so acknowledge them, show them respect, 107 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: and so you know the saying one for sorrow or 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: two for joy, So if you see one, it's not 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: going to be sour. You saluted them. And I've done 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: it all my life, and I've read it in Irish books. 111 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm not the only mad person that does it. My 112 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: children used to laugh at me all the time, but 113 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: now they are adults and none of us have been 114 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: have been swooped. 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think that goes with the idea. Of course, 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: you turn to face it and you eyeball it and 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: acknowledge it and croile. You're saluting, and that's what's doing 118 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the trick. That's thank you, that's a good one in 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: the morning, Thank you very much.