Speaker 1: Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands
Speaker 1: were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders
Speaker 1: past and present.
Speaker 2: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
Speaker 2: recorded on de rug Wallamata Land. Hi guys, and welcome
Speaker 2: back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: I'm Laura. I'm Frittney, and this feels a little bit weird.
Speaker 1: I feel like you swear to God, you have like
Speaker 1: three or four weeks off Matts and you feel like
Speaker 1: you've got your learning plates back on. Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason why we feel like that is
Speaker 2: because you're not in the fucking country. Britta and I
Speaker 2: are always in studio together. We can always touch each other.
Speaker 2: I can rub my feet on her.
Speaker 1: I can see you always put gangrenous toes all over me,
Speaker 1: and it's disgusting. That's why I had to move to
Speaker 1: the other side of the world temporarily, Laura, to get away
Speaker 1: from your rank feet is not the only reason gangrenes toes.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I fell in love to, but also your
Speaker 1: feet a bit of me.
Speaker 2: Britt is still in Scotland. She's staying over there for
Speaker 2: a couple more weeks. I think you're coming back on
Speaker 2: like the ninth of February, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got like two weeks left.
Speaker 2: I mean, are we in different hemispheres? I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Yes we are. Everyone's smiling because I'm an idiot. He
Speaker 2: should keep that in.
Speaker 1: Laura. Are we in different countries? What language do they
Speaker 1: speak over in Scotland?
Speaker 2: Would you believe that I didn't do very well in
Speaker 2: geography at school? Would you believe that?
Speaker 1: Shock? Horror? I no, no, I'm shocked. Do you know
Speaker 1: what's funny? My family came over to Scotland for Christmas,
Speaker 1: and Ben's family came and we all met. Was wonderful,
Speaker 1: is beautiful, But his family is Swiss. My family's obviously
Speaker 1: all Australian and everyone could understand everyone, except no one
Speaker 1: could understand my dad. Everyone thought my dad was speaking
Speaker 1: another language. Not even your own family can understand your dad.
Speaker 1: So I understand why that he gets really relaxed. He
Speaker 1: has a drink and he goes full like he's so
Speaker 1: aussy oka is that what you call it? Like a
Speaker 1: real because he's not bogan, that's not the word. He's
Speaker 1: not boging at all, but he's real. Ock us everyone
Speaker 1: was like, what language are you speaking. Dad's like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? It's English, It's Australian nothing.
Speaker 2: No, no, He's like, I'm talking Central Cops, Harbor. That's
Speaker 2: what this is what McCray, you're always so hurry? Yes,
Speaker 2: I told you geography not my strong point.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this now for four and a half years,
Speaker 1: five hundred episodes. We see each other every day, speak
Speaker 1: every day, and you always forget where I'm from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to try and defend myself because
Speaker 2: it's kind of true. This is our very first episode back.
Speaker 2: We've had four weeks off. If you haven't listened to them.
Speaker 2: Over the last couple of weeks, we were posting some
Speaker 2: of our live show conversations, so we had Michael King,
Speaker 2: we had lerd pull In, we had Flex Marmi Drop.
Speaker 2: All of that was new content from and recorded at
Speaker 2: the live shows that we did. These were some of
Speaker 2: our favorite ones, So if you haven't had a chance
Speaker 2: to go back and listen to those, please do. But
Speaker 2: we are back and resuming normal scheduling now.
Speaker 1: Well, we did try at the end last year. For
Speaker 1: a month we decided to try splitting up our episodes
Speaker 1: a little bit, so that Tuesday was now just to
Speaker 1: catch up. Wednesday was the interview, Thursday was UK gun cut,
Speaker 1: and then Sunday was out radio episode, And it was
Speaker 1: like a month long, two month long trial. See how
Speaker 1: we felt, see how you felt, and we've decided to
Speaker 1: keep it.
Speaker 2: We love it.
Speaker 1: We asked you for your feedback. You love it a
Speaker 1: lot as well. And I think it's easier to have
Speaker 1: the interview separated so that if you just feel like
Speaker 1: an interview one day, you can go to it. If
Speaker 1: you just feel like having a little laugh and some
Speaker 1: bands with us, you can go straight there. I'm really
Speaker 1: vibing the new setup.
Speaker 2: The thing that we were experiencing with having the Tuesday
Speaker 2: episodes being so big and doing like the life and
Speaker 2: the conversation and the whatever's happening in the world catched
Speaker 2: up at the start and then going into a topic.
Speaker 2: What that often meant is that if you guys were
Speaker 2: sharing an episode with your friends, because maybe we're talking
Speaker 2: about boundaries, maybe we were talking about cheating, whatever the
Speaker 2: conversation was in that episode, people had to listen to
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes first to try and get to that content.
Speaker 2: And we understand that that's not for everyone. So that
Speaker 2: was the main reason why we decided to break down
Speaker 2: these episodes. So Tuesday this is it, this is just us,
Speaker 2: and we'll unpack something that's happening in the world or
Speaker 2: something that has spiked interest for us. And it's just
Speaker 2: going to be Britt and Eye on these episodes, and
Speaker 2: then we're going to get into it with the Wednesdays
Speaker 2: being just the interviews. So that way, if there is
Speaker 2: something that you think you need to share with your friends,
Speaker 2: you don't have to and they don't have to listen
Speaker 2: to us kind of babalon for twenty five minutes at
Speaker 2: the start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also now on the Thursday, we've decided to
Speaker 1: keep Thursday pretty much purely asked uncut because you guys
Speaker 1: seem to really love that episode, and we're going to
Speaker 1: keep all the babble and the shit talk on the
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursdays. We're gonna add some more questions and
Speaker 1: make them a bit more juicy bit media. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, well, okay, bit of a catch up
Speaker 2: in terms of what has been happening over the past
Speaker 2: four weeks because Britt I well, I mean I spent
Speaker 2: most of my holiday in bed, but we'll get into
Speaker 2: that in a second. I feel like I have been
Speaker 2: kept up to speed with your life via social media,
Speaker 2: so I do feel like I know everything that has happened.
Speaker 2: And obviously we've spoken heaves, but as we do most recordings,
Speaker 2: we try and keep things a secret so that we
Speaker 2: can talk about it for the first time on the podcast.
Speaker 1: But you took that to the extreme. So Laura and
Speaker 1: I were texting. We follow each other on Socials, but
Speaker 1: I hadn't logged on for a little while too, Socials
Speaker 1: whilst I was on holiday. Anyway, long story short, Laura
Speaker 1: and I are texting and then I think I said
Speaker 1: to you, like have you been going out much? How
Speaker 1: is your Christmas? Blah blah blah blah, And you said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm dying of pneumonia. I've been in hospital. And I'm
Speaker 1: like what You're like, Oh, I'm almost on the mend.
Speaker 1: It's two weeks of like my deathbed. And I was like,
Speaker 1: how have you This is you keeping secrets to the extreme, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to pass away and I'm going to
Speaker 1: be left solo hosting this podcast, I.
Speaker 2: Probably need to be informed produce as is in the winds,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm here, don't worry. If someone dies,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go roll me out. She said, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that to you. You would, you absolutely would. I,
Speaker 2: to be fair, did not.
Speaker 1: Keep your funeral, Like, what's your podcast episode? While we bury?
Speaker 1: Laura would get good hits.
Speaker 2: Though if I died, that would be a pretty well
Speaker 2: downloaded episode.
Speaker 1: I reckon if one of us passes away, I give
Speaker 1: you permission to do an epod sewed at my funeral
Speaker 1: if you want. Do we do it before or do
Speaker 1: we do it after?
Speaker 2: Probably after, so that we can recap it before I die,
Speaker 2: before the funeral, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think a live stream.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we've established that the reason why I
Speaker 2: didn't tell you guys wasn't not because I was trying
Speaker 2: to keep content for the podcast. I was so so
Speaker 2: sick that I didn't get out of bed for about
Speaker 2: maybe twelve thirteen days. I just I didn't even really
Speaker 2: wake up. I just kind of stayed in bed. Matt
Speaker 2: Matt was given in a coma.
Speaker 1: I was self induced coma. Matt was incredible.
Speaker 2: He did everything, He took the kids, He just managed
Speaker 2: the house. He got them out of the house so
Speaker 2: that I didn't have to, like so that I could sleep,
Speaker 2: But it was just this unrelenting cough. And then it
Speaker 2: must have been maybe two weeks ago now, on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: I woke up this one and had been getting progressively
Speaker 2: worse every day, couldn't stop coughing. Thought I had really
Speaker 2: bad asthma, and like maybe the flu. And then I
Speaker 2: woke up this one day and I could not breathe,
Speaker 2: like I just couldn't get any air in my lungs,
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop coughing. Then I was feeling all panicky
Speaker 2: because I couldn't breathe, and I was like, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: having a panic attack. I ended up the hospital and
Speaker 2: had chest X ray, dared and all that, lots of stuff,
Speaker 2: and they gave me some hectic antibiotics. But also so
Speaker 2: I had this moment like when I say, Matt really
Speaker 2: stepped up to the plate, Like I think that when
Speaker 2: you're sick, it's a real indicator as to how good
Speaker 2: your partner is. Because some partners really step up, they
Speaker 2: care for you, they do the work. Other partners they
Speaker 2: start off good and then they trail off real quick.
Speaker 2: And I think it's an indicator of having a great partner.
Speaker 2: There was this one moment where I realized. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Matt as a keeper. This man loves me. And let
Speaker 2: me tell you, it wasn't getting married or having children
Speaker 2: that made me realize this. You would have thought I
Speaker 2: would have been there. But one day I was coughing
Speaker 2: and then I started throwing up, and then I threw
Speaker 2: up in the bathroom and I threw up in the sink.
Speaker 2: And if you've ever thrown up in the sink, it's
Speaker 2: kind of gross because then you've got a fish out all.
Speaker 1: The bits, and it like, like, is it the skinny drain?
Speaker 1: The big hole drain? We have?
Speaker 2: Like the tiny drain that's got like the plug over
Speaker 2: the top of it so only water goes down to
Speaker 2: protect the plumbing. And here it was a sink full
Speaker 2: of spaghetti arabiata. And he walked in and he looked
Speaker 2: at me, and you could see on his face he
Speaker 2: was like, why the sink. The toilet is right there,
Speaker 2: And he didn't say anything, and he went and he
Speaker 2: got a cup and he just patted my back and
Speaker 2: then he stood there with a cup in a bucket
Speaker 2: and he fished it out of the sink. And I
Speaker 2: know this is very graphic, and I'm very sorry if
Speaker 2: you're someone who is vomit squeamish. But I was on
Speaker 2: the floor of the bathroom that day and I was like,
Speaker 2: this man, he loves me.
Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent, without doubt love. But I
Speaker 1: also know that level of illness where you don't even care,
Speaker 1: like when you're laying on the ground, like, correct me
Speaker 1: if you've never done this, I have an eye that
Speaker 1: happened to a friend. When you're laying on the ground
Speaker 1: and you're just like when you have hectic gashtro when
Speaker 1: you're that sick, you don't care where it comes out.
Speaker 1: You're like, I could not careless, Like that's future me problem.
Speaker 1: I think you're on your own.
Speaker 2: I think I would care regardless. Actually, no, I take
Speaker 2: that back, because like ninety percent of women who have
Speaker 2: given birth have done a poo in front of their partner,
Speaker 2: and like, you don't care, you think you will. Every
Speaker 2: single person who goes into pregnancy and birthing thinks, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what if I pooh in front of my partner? God,
Speaker 2: that's embarrassing. And then as it's happening, you're like, whatever,
Speaker 2: deal with it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of I did try and keep up to date
Speaker 1: well with what was happening in your life, Like I
Speaker 1: did a few Google searches every now and again. See
Speaker 1: I there are any pap photos of you at the beach,
Speaker 1: just seeing like what you and the family were doing.
Speaker 1: I thought, you're cute. I'll just follow them from the baparazzi.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If you want to keep up to date
Speaker 2: with what's happening in my life, you don't have to
Speaker 2: look at the news, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I decided, look, the time difference was
Speaker 1: too hard. I wasn't gonna calling wake you up. It
Speaker 1: was just like a fleeting moment. I'll give you a
Speaker 1: Google And the first thing that comes up, which I'm
Speaker 1: so honored to know, was that you Laura Byrne did
Speaker 1: a four point five Q shit and told mad about it.
Speaker 1: That was the headline of the Daily Mail article. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck have I missed?
Speaker 2: Explain that Keisha's looking shocked as though she hasn't you
Speaker 2: didn't know this, So Matt and I created a skit video.
Speaker 2: The skit video was very much satire, but I think
Speaker 2: some people don't understand what satire is, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know geography. Some people don't know satire.
Speaker 2: The satirical skit was around how when you first get
Speaker 2: into a relationship and you're dating, you are on absolute
Speaker 2: best behavior, right, So if you need to go to
Speaker 2: the toilet, and you're only just in that initial stages
Speaker 2: of dating, you walk into the bathroom and you put
Speaker 2: music on, or you put the tap on so that
Speaker 2: they can't hear any toilet noises. You pad down the
Speaker 2: toilet like I once dated this guy who lived in
Speaker 2: a studio apartment, so his toilet was pretty much in
Speaker 2: the bedroom. There was nowhere to hide, there was nothing.
Speaker 2: I used to have to ask him to go out
Speaker 2: in the balcony and I would pad that toilet down.
Speaker 2: You go to the extreme length so that you don't
Speaker 2: let them hear your toilet noises, and then when you
Speaker 2: not for everyone, I appreciate this. There's two types of people.
Speaker 2: We've established that in the past. But for some of us,
Speaker 2: you get into a comfy relationship, things change. You let
Speaker 2: yourself go and no longer do you put music on
Speaker 2: or put the tap on or whatever. You'll walk out
Speaker 2: and you'll describe like what a cathartic experience it was. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that was the skit. It was very funny.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2: Also got like some crazy like five million views on Instagram,
Speaker 2: so it did really.
Speaker 1: Well, Laura, people movement.
Speaker 2: If there's one thing that we can all relate to,
Speaker 2: everybody shits. So we did this skit very funny. And
Speaker 2: then I wake up the next day to an article
Speaker 2: that my mom has sent me because my mom has
Speaker 2: not seen the skit yet, So my mom sends me
Speaker 2: an article and it says this. Laura Byrne shocks her
Speaker 2: fans as she reveals she did the biggest pooh of
Speaker 2: her entire life and lost four kilos. This entire article
Speaker 2: now once again, the publisher of this, this journalist who
Speaker 2: wrote this has done me dirty a few times. Her
Speaker 2: name's Marta j Marta j No, Marta Jari. She's written
Speaker 2: a couple of articles and it seems like she misses
Speaker 2: satire and humor a bit or she doesn't like me.
Speaker 1: It could be the second I know he gets it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's written a few articles that have truly done
Speaker 2: me dirty over the years. But anyway, this one, it
Speaker 2: was written as though The skit was completely truth and verbatim,
Speaker 2: so it outlined me coming out saying like, you know,
Speaker 2: do you want to come see it? Me talking about
Speaker 2: poo to mad and the whole article was written as
Speaker 2: though I had just gotten onto Instagram and done like
Speaker 2: stories and be like, hey everyone, I did a boo,
Speaker 2: which clearly didn't happen. But the Internet now thinks that
Speaker 2: that did happen, and that will live in perpetuity on
Speaker 2: the Daily Mail for the rest of my life. No,
Speaker 2: my mum sent it, and she sent this message and
Speaker 2: she said, Laura, I know that you're okay with sharing things,
Speaker 2: but something should be kept a secret.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you could print that out and put it on
Speaker 1: the wall right next to the urine shower. You've had some,
Speaker 1: you had some banger articles. To be fair, I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure Marta wrote that one too. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I think she did. I think she did to you. Hey,
Speaker 2: what did I do to you?
Speaker 1: You haven't done a four kilo shit? Come on with
Speaker 1: all dumbe no, no, no. I thought it was very funny.
Speaker 1: And Ben's bathroom, he's only got one, and it's one
Speaker 1: of those three way bathrooms you know where like the
Speaker 1: bedroom goes. It's an on suite, but it's not non sweet.
Speaker 1: It also services the rest of the house, like there's
Speaker 1: multile ways in. And it was really hard at the
Speaker 1: start because I was like, you know, new, I don't
Speaker 1: want to PuO in front of you. I want you here,
Speaker 1: but you can literally literally lay in bed and hear me.
Speaker 1: It's gotten a bit better now I will be like, yo,
Speaker 1: going to do a poop, hold the line, but I
Speaker 1: still don't far in front of him, right, Like I
Speaker 1: just refuse to do it. Anyway, last night, I was
Speaker 1: like I was just feeling unwell, and I was like,
Speaker 1: like I knew it was not going to be a
Speaker 1: good one. So I walked out of the bedroom into
Speaker 1: the kitchen and then my plan was to come back,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know Ben follow me. So Ben was
Speaker 1: following me to the kitchen to get a drink. And
Speaker 1: I walked to the fire end of the kitchen turned
Speaker 1: around and he was there and.
Speaker 2: I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I could it was a bomb like this is
Speaker 1: not good. I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Go back to bed.
Speaker 1: I can bring you what you want.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just gonna get a drink of water.
Speaker 1: Just hiding him, and he's like, what what's that smell?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't smell anything, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that? And I was like, oh, eh, what
Speaker 1: is that? And then I pretended to find chicken wing thing,
Speaker 1: like a leftover chickening. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's this leftover chicken wing, and then threw it out.
Speaker 1: And that's how I covered my fart. I'm still so
Speaker 1: far from tell him the truth. He'll probably listen to
Speaker 1: this now and he'll know. So anyway, it's out in
Speaker 1: the open. I dropped a bomb. Sorry, Ben.
Speaker 2: You guys just need to like live more liberally. You
Speaker 2: need to get to a point of comfort and relaxation
Speaker 2: with your partner. It's better for the relationship. It brings
Speaker 2: you closer, It makes you love each other more, you
Speaker 2: understand each other. I know, Matthew Johnson inside and out.
Speaker 2: I can say that outside and I know well, while you.
Speaker 1: Were in bed dying and writing your will and last testament,
Speaker 1: I had a very important meaning. So I was meeting
Speaker 1: Ben's family for the very first time, and my family
Speaker 1: had obviously flown over from Australia. They were meeting Ben's
Speaker 1: family for the first time, but it was the first
Speaker 1: time in person. I actually have unfortunately met Ben's family before.
Speaker 1: I told this at the live show, so some of
Speaker 1: you might have heard it, but I die a little
Speaker 1: inside every time I think about it. Ben and I
Speaker 1: are on different sides of the world. So every time
Speaker 1: we FaceTime, which is twice a day minimum, so morning
Speaker 1: and night for both of us. One about morning one
Speaker 1: of our night, and it's always when I'm get be
Speaker 1: ready in the morning, so I will put the iPad
Speaker 1: up and I'll go and have a shower, will breakfast,
Speaker 1: have coffee, we'll get ready for work, all of that,
Speaker 1: just like normal life while the other person's on the iPad. Anyway,
Speaker 1: one morning, I've stripped off and I'm just about to
Speaker 1: get into the shower, and the iPad starts reading and
Speaker 1: it's Ben. Some like perfect timing, like titties are out,
Speaker 1: they're looking full. It was probably that time of the month.
Speaker 1: I had great lighting. It wasn't too overhead. It was
Speaker 1: just like really choice, like for a newdi.
Speaker 2: FaceTime, so so descriptive. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So I put the iPad down on the bathroom sink
Speaker 1: and I lean out of the frame to turn the
Speaker 1: shower on as I've pressed pick up, so it's loading.
Speaker 1: As I'm out of frame, turning the shower on, and
Speaker 1: as I lean back into frame, just like really vibing myself,
Speaker 1: I look at the screen and there's Ben and he's
Speaker 1: staring back at me. And right next to Ben, he's
Speaker 1: Ben's mom and Ben's dad and Ben's sister and Ben
Speaker 1: have decided, without any prior acknowledgment, to do a family
Speaker 1: FaceTime at my shower time. So I'm standing looking them
Speaker 1: in the eyes. My titties are looking them in the eyes.
Speaker 1: They're looking me in the eyes. I panic rolled to
Speaker 1: the ground and I'm like, this is how I am
Speaker 1: like burying me right now. I'm completely dead. And I
Speaker 1: just sat there in silence, and I yelled out from
Speaker 1: the bottom and they were like, don't worry, Britt, we
Speaker 1: didn't see anything. And I'm like, oh please, Like, who
Speaker 1: says that? You only say that unless you saw something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like no, One's like, oh, you don't have anything.
Speaker 2: In your teeth.
Speaker 1: You know you have something in your teeth, do you know?
Speaker 2: The funny? Okay, the part about this that I think
Speaker 2: is great, the reason why they were in such confined
Speaker 2: space because it's not normal. No one's ever like huddling
Speaker 2: around the phone with their entire family being like, let's
Speaker 2: FaceTime Bread.
Speaker 1: They were in a car together.
Speaker 2: They were all driving, and so Ben had just like
Speaker 2: picked up and put up FaceTime and put the phone
Speaker 2: into the car holder. Yes, and then up Brit Pops
Speaker 2: and so do the rest of brit The reason they
Speaker 2: were all in the car together was because they were
Speaker 2: going to like his grandparents grave.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a grave visit.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel bad him and saying that
Speaker 2: bury me. Now I'm going to hell.
Speaker 1: Anyway. No, so do you know what? It was such
Speaker 1: a wholesome Christmas for us, like a wholesome family meet.
Speaker 1: So my family were here for two weeks and his
Speaker 1: family came over for about five days. We all just
Speaker 1: hung out, got along like a house on fire. It
Speaker 1: was really nice because you always hope that you like
Speaker 1: your in laws and that your families get along, and
Speaker 1: like that's the goal, right, Like there's nothing worse than
Speaker 1: if somebody doesn't want someone else in the family.
Speaker 2: When I was dying in bed, I was like looking
Speaker 2: at your Instagram, and normally I would look at it
Speaker 2: and be jealous. Look at this beautiful time you're having.
Speaker 2: But I was looking at it and living vicariously through
Speaker 2: the fact that you actually looked like you were enjoying yourself.
Speaker 2: You did then go to the mold Dives. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say it wrong, Maldives. Maldives. No one caress Okay.
Speaker 1: No, actually a lot of people care. I found that out.
Speaker 1: It's it is mold Eves, not Maldives, not mold Dives,
Speaker 1: mold Eves, Moldie to be sure. Yeah, and I know
Speaker 1: because I kicked up a big stink on Instagram. No,
Speaker 1: it was the Maldives. Oh see, I can't fuck it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it the Maldives because that's how Australians
Speaker 1: say it. The Maldives for me, were a place that
Speaker 1: have been on my bucket listens as long as I
Speaker 1: can remember, and I always wondered if things were photoshopped
Speaker 1: there or it almost seems too postcard and too good
Speaker 1: to be true. But hands down it has to be
Speaker 1: the most spectacular place I've ever seen. It was wildly beautiful.
Speaker 1: There is nowhere that you could look that was not
Speaker 1: like a postcard like a picture, like you could just
Speaker 1: pull your phone out, take a picture and it looks
Speaker 1: like someone has photoshoped the most magical island. So we
Speaker 1: had an incredible time, but it was just like the
Speaker 1: holiday of a lifetime. It's always the place you want
Speaker 1: to go with someone, like a romantic special friends, like,
Speaker 1: it's not the sort of place you want to go
Speaker 1: as a backpacker or with friends. For me, like, I
Speaker 1: always was like, I'm not going to go to the
Speaker 1: mal Dives until I'm gone with a lover. Like it
Speaker 1: was just on my it was on my checklist, it
Speaker 1: was on my mood board, my internal mood board. I've
Speaker 1: never had an actual mood board. So I waited all
Speaker 1: this time until I could go there with a lover.
Speaker 1: And it was the most romantic place you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there was something that I wanted to talk
Speaker 2: to you about because I think this is something that's
Speaker 2: very well one. I mean, obviously you've just experienced it,
Speaker 2: but it's very relatable because I think this is something
Speaker 2: that a lot of us do to our friends who
Speaker 2: have been in long term or seemingly happy relationships. Before
Speaker 2: you left, we had a bit of a conversation where
Speaker 2: I said, do you think potentially Ben could propose on
Speaker 2: this trip and you said, I don't think so, like maybe,
Speaker 2: who fucking knows, you know. So, there was this one
Speaker 2: evening you were going to an underwater restaurant. You were
Speaker 2: dressed in a little white dress, you had your nails
Speaker 2: perfectly done with white trim. I had this moment where
Speaker 2: I had excitement for you, like I genuinely felt like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, maybe Ben's going to propose. And I
Speaker 2: sent you a message at that time which was like
Speaker 2: ring ring emoji emoji like are you engaged yet?
Speaker 1: Question mark?
Speaker 2: And I sent it and then I very quickly after
Speaker 2: sending it, realized and had this moment where I was like,
Speaker 2: I should not have sent that, And we haven't really
Speaker 2: discussed this yet. I had a moment where I thought
Speaker 2: like that was not the right thing to do. And
Speaker 2: I would love to unpack this a little bit because
Speaker 2: I know you have some feelings about it, and I
Speaker 2: think that this is something that so many people have
Speaker 2: experienced in their long term happy relationships, where well meaning
Speaker 2: friends way in on when or if an engagement is
Speaker 2: going to happen, And then like, I'd love to talk
Speaker 2: about the impact that has on your ability to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's an interesting one because I got it so
Speaker 1: much right left front and center. I was getting it
Speaker 1: from just the comments from whomever. And the thing is
Speaker 1: it's not just that are you engaged yet? But it's
Speaker 1: that when are you going to get engaged? It's at
Speaker 1: Ben proposed already at Brittany, when is he going to propose?
Speaker 1: Is if I know that answer? And then the best
Speaker 1: friends like you, literally, while I'm in the white dress
Speaker 1: on the date, has he proposed yet? And I'm like, okay, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Now I'm on a date in the white dress. He
Speaker 1: hasn't yet proposed, than he's going to propose? Can I
Speaker 1: eat my second clam chowder meal that's about to come out?
Speaker 1: Or should I push it to the side. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have clam chowder breath If he's about to propose.
Speaker 1: Oh my god set me into a downward spiral.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for ruining my evening, Laura, is
Speaker 2: really what you wanted to relate back to me?
Speaker 1: No, and it it didn't ruin my evening, but it does.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting conversation because flat out I want to
Speaker 1: say to everybody listening right now, don't message your friend
Speaker 1: and say are you engaged yet or when you're gonna
Speaker 1: get engaged, just don't do it. The reason I say
Speaker 1: that is if it is about to happen, you don't
Speaker 1: want it spoiled, right, You know when someone messaging you that,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've got so much anxiety, now is
Speaker 1: it going to happen? Do they know something that I don't?
Speaker 1: It adds like this, it's really hard to describe. It
Speaker 1: adds this weird pressure to not only you like me,
Speaker 1: but to the relationship as well. Because Ben was reading
Speaker 1: all those messages and I was reading all those messages,
Speaker 1: and before we went away, Laura, you had said to me,
Speaker 1: do you think he's going to propose? And I had said, look,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think this is the
Speaker 1: time I'm going to say no. But we are going
Speaker 1: to be together for a while in some pretty romantic places,
Speaker 1: so I guess anything is possible. So I had had,
Speaker 1: like the whole time, I'd always had this one little
Speaker 1: that white dress. I was like, this will be my
Speaker 1: backup engagement if I feel like it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's going to happen, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to be prepared fail to prepare is preparing
Speaker 1: to fail.
Speaker 2: I love that. Put that on your twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: quote calendar. Everybody, that's what that is. Put that on
Speaker 2: your mood board.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And then what it does was because
Speaker 1: it wasn't just me and it was public and Ben
Speaker 1: was seeing it. And I'm lucky that Ben and I
Speaker 1: are very open with our communication. One thing we're very
Speaker 1: good at is being really honest. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was getting flooded with the questions and we had a
Speaker 1: really honest conversation about it. He had said, look, I've
Speaker 1: seen all the comments and I've seen your DMS, and
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, like I just brushed off as a joke.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like so many people ask you
Speaker 1: if I'm going to get engaged, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: I'm fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm like so silly, but everyone's saying it. And then
Speaker 1: he was just like, well do you feel like that?
Speaker 1: Like did you think that? And as soon as he
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, oh, it's definitely not happening
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't be bringing up the conversation and I
Speaker 1: was really honest and I said, look, no, but we're
Speaker 1: in the mal dives and it's the most romantic relation
Speaker 1: like trip we've ever been on, and we're having a blast,
Speaker 1: so like it wouldn't have shocked me if you didn't,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't expected. And we just had this conversation
Speaker 1: that he felt really bad. He felt like a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure put on him from everybody else, that maybe
Speaker 1: I had read these comments and dams and gotten my
Speaker 1: hopes up, and then he wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't planning on doing it, So then every day
Speaker 1: he felt like he was letting me down. It was
Speaker 1: a really weird feeling, and I tried to communicate that.
Speaker 1: I tried to say, look, you're not letting me down,
Speaker 1: Like we can't let other people's opinions pressure us into something,
Speaker 1: and also I don't want to let these other questions
Speaker 1: put a dampener on our holiday. But truth be told,
Speaker 1: you can't help but feel this added level of pressure.
Speaker 1: And it just makes me think about like we've only
Speaker 1: been together fourteen months, makes me think about my friends
Speaker 1: that have been to together, Like I have friends that
Speaker 1: were together seven years, and constantly everyone is asking her
Speaker 1: when he's going to propose. Why don't you guys just
Speaker 1: get married, and it's really the bane of her existence,
Speaker 1: right because she's like, I really want him to propose.
Speaker 1: I'm beside myself waiting, and it just gave her so
Speaker 1: much anxiety every time somebody said, why don't you just
Speaker 1: get married, as if like you know, she can just
Speaker 1: pull a rabbit out of a hat. And it made
Speaker 1: me think back to all these people in these like
Speaker 1: really long term relationships. It's not a it's not a
Speaker 1: positive thing to do to a friend, like you're you
Speaker 1: mean to be really good, willing, but it's not.
Speaker 2: Well I think, and that was my thought about this.
Speaker 2: It's almost like this conversation is like the precursor to
Speaker 2: the when are you having kids? Conversation? And we've spoken
Speaker 2: about this loads in the past. We all know now
Speaker 2: that that is not an okay thing to speak about
Speaker 2: or to talk to, you know, unless someone brings it up. Specifically,
Speaker 2: you don't ask someone when they're having children. I don't
Speaker 2: think that when are you're getting engaged is as bad
Speaker 2: because obviously there's many reasons why people can't and don't
Speaker 2: want to have children. But I do think this conversation
Speaker 2: around engagement, when you ask the question, all it does
Speaker 2: especially when your friends had gone away on a beautiful holiday.
Speaker 2: All it's going to do is either add pressure, it's
Speaker 2: going to change their ability to enjoy it. It's going
Speaker 2: to have them on the lookout. And I even say
Speaker 2: this from my own experience, because when Matt proposed, I
Speaker 2: was seven and a half months pregnant and we'd gone
Speaker 2: to Fiji on a holiday, like if there was ever
Speaker 2: going to be a time, it was probably then, and
Speaker 2: everybody had said the same to me, And I think
Speaker 2: I woke up every day on that holiday thinking is
Speaker 2: this the day?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And I guess I had definitely had expectations and had hopes.
Speaker 2: Had I left that holiday and Matt hadn't proposed, I
Speaker 2: would have felt really disappointed. And I guess that was
Speaker 2: what I reflected on when I asked you the question,
Speaker 2: brit because I realized that I was adding to the
Speaker 2: exact same thing that I felt when I was in
Speaker 2: that situation totally.
Speaker 1: One thing that was funny that I will say is
Speaker 1: that there was this one night, We're having this really
Speaker 1: romantic dinner, like it could have been the place of
Speaker 1: a proposal, right. It was just the two of us
Speaker 1: on a private beach with private chefs. It's like this
Speaker 1: it extra that you buy when I say private beach,
Speaker 1: like the resorts have sections, you know that a private
Speaker 1: but candles everywhere, like candles coming out of the It
Speaker 1: was insanely romantic. Right on the water. The water was
Speaker 1: lapping up and it was seafood and there was wine.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. And these people walked past us on
Speaker 1: the wharf and they started going whoa and clapping because
Speaker 1: Ben and I had started to cry and were hugging
Speaker 1: link and hugged each other. So from the outside you'd
Speaker 1: look at us like a few tears running down our face,
Speaker 1: hugging romantic. So they thought we got engaged, but we
Speaker 1: were talking about our dead grandparents. And it was so funny,
Speaker 1: like the moment couldn't have been any different or any
Speaker 1: funny because they thought we were getting engaged because they
Speaker 1: thought they were happy tears, but we were talking about
Speaker 1: our dead grandparents.
Speaker 2: The moral of the story is you never know. BRIT's
Speaker 2: something I I wanted to talk to you about that
Speaker 2: has happened. I mean, in the past couple of weeks
Speaker 2: plus we've been away. We all know the Golden Globes
Speaker 2: has had so much airtime Over the past few weeks,
Speaker 2: I feel like every time I open up Instagram, it's
Speaker 2: Golden Globes Chat.
Speaker 1: Does anyone actually still watching this year?
Speaker 2: People only watch it on recap through social media, and
Speaker 2: then they read the articles and then we look at
Speaker 2: like all the cool dresses.
Speaker 1: Yes, in worst dress, just like those stupid lists that
Speaker 1: you see pop up everywhere.
Speaker 2: My heart, He's not Golden Globes.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I say this?
Speaker 2: I would love to know if anyone actually sat down
Speaker 2: with a cup of tea and watched the whole thing, Like,
Speaker 2: I would love to know if those people still exist.
Speaker 2: But maybe they do. They must exist. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about the Golden Globes. I want
Speaker 2: to talk about the sequel to the Golden Globes, the
Speaker 2: thing that not enough people are talking about, and that
Speaker 2: is the Critics' Choice Awards. Now. The reason for this
Speaker 2: is because if you've seen this, so, Chelsea Handler was
Speaker 2: the presenter. She was the main.
Speaker 1: Host for the Critics Choice Awards.
Speaker 2: And what you might not know is that Chelsea Handler
Speaker 2: is actually the X of Joe Coy.
Speaker 1: Now, Joe Koy is the guy who was hosting the
Speaker 1: Golden Globes, the one who flopped so sensationally, who made
Speaker 1: terrible jokes about Barbie, about Oppenheimer from the minute he
Speaker 1: stepped on stage to eleven minutes when his terrible monologue finished.
Speaker 1: It was a flop, and Chelsea Handler did the exact
Speaker 1: opposite and also kind of threw her Rex under the
Speaker 1: bus at the same time. It hard to watch, wasn't it? Wait?
Speaker 2: Which one? Joe?
Speaker 1: I feel awkward thinking about it, like thinking about the
Speaker 1: silence and the flop, and how offensive he was on
Speaker 1: the stage and how much he would have wanted to
Speaker 1: crawl into a hole. Like when I think back, I
Speaker 1: feel gross.
Speaker 2: So I mean to give you guys a little bit
Speaker 2: of recap if you haven't and you aren't across his
Speaker 2: speech from the Golden Globes, Basically it started off and
Speaker 2: it was very gender stereotyped. He really took aim at Barbie,
Speaker 2: and this was one of the things he said.
Speaker 4: Oppenheimer and Barbie are competing for cinematic box office achievement.
Speaker 4: Oppenheimer is based on a seven hundred and twenty one
Speaker 4: page pull it to winning book about the Manhattan Project,
Speaker 4: and Barbie is on a plastic doll with big boobies.
Speaker 2: Any grown man using the word boobies is an instant IgG.
Speaker 2: But also what's an even bigger ick is the fact
Speaker 2: that Barbie was such an incredible, as we all know,
Speaker 2: a huge blockbuster. It revolutionized the movie industry last year,
Speaker 2: and it also elevated beyond the movie. It was like
Speaker 2: a social experiment. People were having Barbie parties. Mattel sales
Speaker 2: absolutely boomed. It completely reinvented this empowerment of women around
Speaker 2: a doll that, once upon a time was the stereotype
Speaker 2: of women. And I think that his speech so undervalued that,
Speaker 2: and it was so disregarding of everything that was achieved
Speaker 2: last year. The thing that I wanted to talk about
Speaker 2: with the Critics' Choice Award, and the reason why I
Speaker 2: think it should be getting more airtime is because of
Speaker 2: all the things that Chelsea Handler did that were in
Speaker 2: the complete opposite to the way that Joe handled his speech. Now,
Speaker 2: from the moment that she stepped on Stay, she spoke
Speaker 2: about the incredible successes of women throughout twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: within the industry. She spoke about Greta Gowig being one
Speaker 2: of the most successful directors of all time, and also
Speaker 2: around the achievements of people like Oprah of Taylor Swift,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three was the year of women, is how
Speaker 2: she framed it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The thing that really also stood out in this is
Speaker 2: you guys might remember there was this one part where
Speaker 2: when Joe was on stage, he was absolutely flailing with
Speaker 2: his jokes. They weren't landing, and instead of being self
Speaker 2: deprecating when you're a comedian, I feel like that that's
Speaker 2: the way to best handle a situation where maybe jokes
Speaker 2: aren't landing well. Instead of him doing that, he threw
Speaker 2: his writers under the bus.
Speaker 4: Some I wrote. Some other people wrote, yo, I got
Speaker 4: the gig ten days ago. You want a perfect monologue? Yo,
Speaker 4: shut up, you got You're kidding me right, slow down?
Speaker 4: I wrote somebodys and they're the ones you're laughing at.
Speaker 2: Chelsea, on the other hand, when her jokes woreding and
Speaker 2: she was getting such a laugh from her audience, instead
Speaker 2: of throwing her writers under a bus, what she did
Speaker 2: was she thanked her writers, thank you for.
Speaker 1: Laughing at that. My writers wrote it. Now.
Speaker 2: I think the reason why this is so pointed, and
Speaker 2: I truly loved it so much, and there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of chatter about this on TikTok at the moment too,
Speaker 2: is simply because the fact that they once upon a
Speaker 2: time dated, so Joe and Chelsea they dated for only
Speaker 2: one year, but prior to that they were friends for
Speaker 2: twenty years. It does make you question, like is it
Speaker 2: okay to throw your X under the bus and to
Speaker 2: use them in a way that makes them the butt
Speaker 2: of the joke when you have seen that they have
Speaker 2: failed so monumentally at something within a public space.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no more of a public space and
Speaker 1: I'll like a throw down for your ex than if
Speaker 1: you're hosting the Critics Choice and a week before they
Speaker 1: flopped to the Golden Globes, Like, it doesn't get bigger
Speaker 1: and better and more of a slam down than that.
Speaker 1: I think the difference is Joe, whether it was hum or,
Speaker 1: his writers, he was just punching down and a lot
Speaker 1: at really low hanging fruit. And I feel like Chelsea
Speaker 1: still took her swings at people, but I think she
Speaker 1: did it quite cleverly. Like one thing I love that
Speaker 1: she said was this is the year of women. Barbie
Speaker 1: at the box office, Taylor Swift and Beyonce with their
Speaker 1: tours Gwyneth Paltrow and her Ski trial, and I just
Speaker 1: thought that was so fun I thought that was so
Speaker 1: funny because Gwyneth Poulter had a real moment at her
Speaker 1: Ski trial. But I don't think she'd be offended by
Speaker 1: that by what Chelsea said. I think it was clever, funny,
Speaker 1: and a bit more top line. But there were some
Speaker 1: people on TikTok, and it does make you question. There
Speaker 1: are people on TikTok saying what happens if a man
Speaker 1: was saying some of the things that Chelsea was saying.
Speaker 1: And I say that because she was talking about how
Speaker 1: good looking the older men in the room were. She
Speaker 1: was talking about Harris and Ford and how much of
Speaker 1: a smoke show he was. She was talking about wanting
Speaker 1: to roll men around like little meat balls because they
Speaker 1: were delicious. Like it's funny. You sit there and you laugh,
Speaker 1: and it's not until you think about, okay, what if
Speaker 1: a man did say that, well, Ivans that land still
Speaker 1: as funny? Is it okay? Because it's in the context
Speaker 1: of throwing all this stuff back in another man's face
Speaker 1: from his speech a week ago, Like there are so
Speaker 1: many moving parts to this.
Speaker 2: Just for some context, if you haven't listened to the speech,
Speaker 2: We'll link it in the show notes so that you
Speaker 2: can listen to the whole thing. But there was one
Speaker 2: part where she made a joke about Leonardo and his
Speaker 2: tendency to date very young women. And what she said was,
Speaker 2: and this is where most comedians would make a joke
Speaker 2: about Leonardo's dating preferences. But I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: that because I have the same affliction as Leo does,
Speaker 2: but in the opposite direction. I prefer my men old
Speaker 2: and hot men who have been around since the railways
Speaker 2: were invented, speaking of which Robert de Niro and Harrison
Speaker 2: Ford are here in the room. And then she went
Speaker 2: to town on Robert de Niro and Harrison Ford about
Speaker 2: how hot they are for very very old men. And look,
Speaker 2: the question has been asked, what if a man was
Speaker 2: to say the things and objectify in the way that
Speaker 2: Chelsea Hander has objectifying Robert de Niro and Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2: And to that, I say, boohoo. I do not feel
Speaker 2: that sorry for incredibly successful middle aged white men. Are
Speaker 2: they middle aged? Are they beyond middle aged? I think
Speaker 2: that they're like in their sixties now, who knows, I think,
Speaker 2: But I don't feel sorry for them. And the reason
Speaker 2: why is because everyone's like, imagine if a man sees
Speaker 2: these things, we don't need to imagine. That's why she's
Speaker 2: flipping the script, because these things have been said in
Speaker 2: many ways about women for so many years.
Speaker 1: But then does that make it right? Two runs don't
Speaker 1: make a right. I don't care if we are fighting
Speaker 1: for people not to say this. Do you think the
Speaker 1: right thing is to be saying this? And I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was funny. I laughed at
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But when someone pointed out that if
Speaker 1: a man did say that, I was like, do you
Speaker 1: know what. Imagine if a man was up there and said, oh,
Speaker 1: I would love to throw Margo Robbie around like a meatball.
Speaker 1: She's so hot, it would be up enough.
Speaker 2: I guess the reason why I disagree with it so deeply,
Speaker 2: and I know that there will be people who feel
Speaker 2: the same, who go, oh, well, a woman shouldn't be
Speaker 2: making sexist jokes in the same way that a man can't.
Speaker 2: The reason why I don't care as much is because
Speaker 2: it comes down to this idea of punching up or
Speaker 2: punching down in a joke and We've spoken about this
Speaker 2: loads in the podcast in the past, but someone like
Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler making a joke at Harrison Ford or Robert
Speaker 2: de Niro's expense is not her punching down on them.
Speaker 2: She is still punching up because I think arguably they
Speaker 2: are very very I mean not even ugly. It's a
Speaker 2: fact they are very successful, well established men within an
Speaker 2: industry that has always favored men and women are still
Speaker 2: working for the same equality. That exact sentiment was reflected
Speaker 2: in Chelsea Handler's speech where she talked about Greta Gerwig.
Speaker 3: With Barby, Greta became the highest grossing female director of all.
Speaker 2: Time, pulling in over one point.
Speaker 3: Four billion dollars at the box office. So while David
Speaker 3: Zaslov was wearing a zip up vest and sailing off
Speaker 3: to Sanchope, one very talented.
Speaker 1: Woman swooped in with a movie about.
Speaker 3: Female empowerment and saved the entire movie industry, which can
Speaker 3: only mean one thing. Hollywood executives are currently debating whether
Speaker 3: Greta's worth taking a second chance on.
Speaker 1: I think that was very funny from Chelsea Handler, and
Speaker 1: it was pans down my favorite line of for not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess that it comes back to this
Speaker 2: idea that it's flipping the script. It was a moment
Speaker 2: of really celebrating what women have achieved, but it was
Speaker 2: flipping the script and the narrative on men within the
Speaker 2: room as well, and I think it was done in
Speaker 2: a very tongue in cheek way. I don't think that
Speaker 2: anyone has fallen victim to Chelsea Handles's speech, and I
Speaker 2: know that it has caused a little bit of debate
Speaker 2: around what isn't isn't acceptable, But there's been many conversations
Speaker 2: around women attending awards ceremonies and only being asked about
Speaker 2: what they're wearing or who they're wearing, instead of being
Speaker 2: asked about anything to do with their accolades from the
Speaker 2: actual shows in which they've been a part of. And
Speaker 2: this just I think really unpacks the issues of the industry,
Speaker 2: and she's making fun of that throughout her entire speech.
Speaker 1: I mean, it does come back to the question you
Speaker 1: asked at the beginning, Laura, if you had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to take such a public swipe at your ex, would
Speaker 1: you take it? Because I mean, we have those opportunities
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like we've ever taken a public swipe.
Speaker 2: Are you living in fantasy land? I think all I
Speaker 2: reckon this whole entire podcast was a swipe at our
Speaker 2: exes to start with. I mean, we did, we grew
Speaker 2: as people, and we evolved. I'm pretty sure Episode three
Speaker 2: was so I dated a sociopath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no one knows who he is, what job
Speaker 1: he did, or anything. That's not a public swipe. Chelsea Handler,
Speaker 1: the whole world was fortune like it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Care more fol That is true. That is true. I
Speaker 2: do feel like I've taken quite a few public swipes
Speaker 2: of my ex. But you know what, I don't feel
Speaker 2: bad because I do sometimes feel like he deserved it.
Speaker 2: But I have grown as a person. We've been doing
Speaker 2: this podcast for a very long time now, and I'm
Speaker 2: much more sort of sensitive.
Speaker 1: In how I go about it.
Speaker 2: But look, I think when it comes to that sort
Speaker 2: of industry, when you work in entertainment, when you work
Speaker 2: in comedy especially, you have to be as good at
Speaker 2: taking it as what you are giving it. So if
Speaker 2: you are going to host the Golden Globes on such
Speaker 2: a public scale and your ex is gonna host the Critics'
Speaker 2: Choice a week later, if you flop, I don't think
Speaker 2: that you were off the table for fair game. I
Speaker 2: think that it's almost like it is such good comedy material,
Speaker 2: it is such comedy gold that of course she's going
Speaker 2: to go there, and of course she's going to take
Speaker 2: the opportunity. And the thing that I keep coming back
Speaker 2: to about Chelsea Handler and the reason why I enjoyed
Speaker 2: the speech so much, was because of the ways in
Speaker 2: which she created the comedy. She didn't punch down on anyone.
Speaker 2: Even the times where she yes made people feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: it was still like, I mean, look at this guy,
Speaker 2: he's a hottie. And she was still punching down on
Speaker 2: herself because she was talking about how she finds an
Speaker 2: old man really attractive. Not a nice thing to say
Speaker 2: to the old man in the room, but she still
Speaker 2: was at the butt of that joke at the same time.
Speaker 2: And I guess I would be so interested to know
Speaker 2: how everybody else feels about it, and whether sexist jokes
Speaker 2: in the flip like in the reverse, when her female
Speaker 2: is being sexist about a male, whether it is less bad,
Speaker 2: whether it is a little bit more okay than when
Speaker 2: it happens in the stereotype, which is men being sexist
Speaker 2: towards women because that is how I feel, and sometimes
Speaker 2: I struggle to articulate the reason why. And I know
Speaker 2: that there shouldn't be two different sets of standards, but
Speaker 2: I do think it comes down to this punching up
Speaker 2: punching down. I also think it comes down to the
Speaker 2: very real victimization like women have been victims of as
Speaker 2: we know, sexual violence, sexual assault, physical assault, women at
Speaker 2: the hands of male violence is a very very real issue,
Speaker 2: and so any type of sexist joke kind of leans
Speaker 2: in and perpetuates that, whereas men are not the victim
Speaker 2: of women, and so when women make jokes, it sits
Speaker 2: within the world of being a joke because it's not real,
Speaker 2: because it doesn't happen on a day to day. So
Speaker 2: I guess that's why I feel differently about the two.
Speaker 2: But I'd love to know how everyone else feels, So
Speaker 2: feel free to jump on socials because I know that
Speaker 2: this will probably stir up some mixed feelings for some people.
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Speaker 2: the fact that you're embarrassed. The first thing you're thinking
Speaker 2: is I need to send this to Laura and Britt.
Speaker 2: I want real time embarrassing shit people like I've locked
Speaker 2: myself in the bathroom right now. This is happening every
Speaker 2: we speak like they're live streaming it to us, which
Speaker 2: is what I'm here for. This is what I want.
Speaker 2: This is the point and the relationship that we have
Speaker 2: with you guys that we want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you are having sex and quefin, we want
Speaker 1: you to be thinking about us. That's the moment. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was lying in my bed, my butt hanging out
Speaker 1: because I had been wearing a dress, so it had
Speaker 1: sort of flipped up my back, you know, were you're
Speaker 1: just kicking your legs, enjoying your day. My partner walks
Speaker 1: past and goes, oh, you have some fluff. Hang on
Speaker 1: a minute, I'll get it leans down and proceeds to
Speaker 1: yank my tampon string out of my undies. How do
Speaker 1: we live in a day and age where a man
Speaker 1: sees a string coming out of a pair of unies
Speaker 1: and thinks it is a bit of fluff. Now it's
Speaker 1: twenty three people.
Speaker 2: I've told this story many years ago, and I think
Speaker 2: you've forgotten it. When we very very first started this podcast,
Speaker 2: when I was seventeen. My first boyfriend, he was so lovely,
Speaker 2: he was so nice, genuinely. I think I peaked with
Speaker 2: niceness in my relationships at seventeen. Then I went rapidly downhill.
Speaker 2: And then I got Matt and he was nice again.
Speaker 2: But he was nice, but he was so unaware about
Speaker 2: the female body, and that was because he'd never been
Speaker 2: exposed to one prior to me. And there was this
Speaker 2: one day we were at the beach. I was wearing
Speaker 2: a black bikini. Black bikini didn't have white stitching. There
Speaker 2: was nothing white on the bikini at all. But I
Speaker 2: got out of the water after going for a swim,
Speaker 2: and he was sitting down and I was standing up
Speaker 2: with there with a group of friends, and I walked
Speaker 2: up to him, and I had my tower wrapped around
Speaker 2: my shoulders and my bikini bottoms and my legs were
Speaker 2: like hanging out the bottom of this little tower. And
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, baby, you've got a string, reaches between
Speaker 2: my legs and yanks it and pulls out my tampon,
Speaker 2: but into my swimmers. So it didn't come out, thank God,
Speaker 2: because I think I would have had to have died.
Speaker 2: We would have been doing the podcast from the cemetery.
Speaker 2: But honestly, it was just floating in my swimmers. And
Speaker 2: he knew what he had done, and I knew what
Speaker 2: he had done, and we resist and oh yeah, he
Speaker 2: felt that tug. He felt that book, but also been
Speaker 2: in water for a long time, so it was quite
Speaker 2: quite buoyant. Slipped out a bit easier than it should have.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: I just remember having intense eye contact with him because
Speaker 2: I didn't want to make a deal, and I was
Speaker 2: like in my eyes, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck have you done?
Speaker 2: And then I I went to the bathroom, fixed myself up,
Speaker 2: came back, and we pretended like it never happened. We
Speaker 2: never spoke about it, because that's what you do when
Speaker 2: you're seventeen. You ignore anything that's uncomfortable forever.
Speaker 1: I would have had to break up at seventeen, Like
Speaker 1: that's that relationship be at that age?
Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, anyway, fucking humiliating, you know.
Speaker 1: I reckon. Well, I reckon. That happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I reckon. There are so many people listening to this
Speaker 1: podcast right now that have had someone try and pull
Speaker 1: a thread out of their vagina.
Speaker 2: I would like to say, I think that this is
Speaker 2: an uncommon and uncommon circumstance. If you, guys, do have
Speaker 2: an accial unfiltered, if you do have an embarrassing story,
Speaker 2: if something wild has happened to you in your life,
Speaker 2: slide on into the DMS. Put accidentally unfiltered at the top,
Speaker 2: and maybe we will read it out next week. But
Speaker 2: we are coming to the end of the episode, and
Speaker 2: before we do, we wanted to tell you what is
Speaker 2: happening on tomorrow's ep So, like we said, Wednesday is
Speaker 2: going to be our interview Epps moving forward, and we
Speaker 2: have such a freaking awesome guess on tomorrow's episode. It's
Speaker 2: someone who we've interviewed in the past and at the
Speaker 2: time it was one of our most downloaded episodes over
Speaker 2: the year. So Mark Manson. He is the author of
Speaker 2: the subtle Art of not Giving a Fuck. It has
Speaker 2: been maybe three years since we last spoke to him,
Speaker 2: and on this week's episode, he is making a comeback
Speaker 2: and we are unpacking all the things that are life related,
Speaker 2: relationship related, cheating related. We cover so much in this episode.
Speaker 2: But the thing I love the most about Mark is
Speaker 2: I would describe him as a bit of a modern
Speaker 2: day philosopher. He is the self help guru for people
Speaker 2: who absolutely hate self help, and the way in which
Speaker 2: he speaks, the way in which he gives life advice,
Speaker 2: it's very relatable and it's not condescending, and I think
Speaker 2: it's in a way that really takes into account the
Speaker 2: fact that we all have our own junk and we
Speaker 2: all show up to the world and to life very differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think he also calls a spade of spade,
Speaker 1: and I like the fact that Mark doesn't just say
Speaker 1: things that are expected. I just find it so refreshing.
Speaker 1: I find him so insightful. And I absolutely love this chat.
Speaker 1: I love this chat more than your original chat. So
Speaker 1: that is dropping in your ears tomorrow. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into secon now. We never finished a Tuesday episode
Speaker 1: without our sucking us week, our highlight and our low
Speaker 1: light of the week that's passed. It's been four and
Speaker 1: a half weeks since we've seen you guys, or heard
Speaker 1: you guys, or been inside your ears. So I feel
Speaker 1: like there's been lots that's been happening. For me, not
Speaker 1: so much, because my suck is that I spend all
Speaker 1: day every day in bed. Actually, I would say my
Speaker 1: biggest suck would have been I've actually do you know what.
Speaker 2: I've got two because it happens simultaneously. It's the sickness,
Speaker 2: which you guys already know, but it's also, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it is stiff wish that would suck.
Speaker 1: This sucks.
Speaker 2: But my other suck for the week is now, if
Speaker 2: you guys listened pre break, you might remember that I
Speaker 2: took Lola off the dummy the whole plan was, and
Speaker 2: I remember saying, I am going to break her like
Speaker 2: a BRUMBI that were my words. So I took her
Speaker 2: off the dummy. The plan was, she was gonna come
Speaker 2: off the dummy. We're going to like go through that period.
Speaker 2: We're going to move her into her sister's room, and
Speaker 2: then Marley and Lala were going to share a bedroom.
Speaker 2: And that was my grand plan because I have these
Speaker 2: I have these beautiful ideas that my two daughters are
Speaker 2: gonna wake up in the morning and play with each
Speaker 2: other and love each other and love sharing a room. Anyway,
Speaker 2: so we took her off the dummy. That was a
Speaker 2: bit hairy for a while, but we kind of things
Speaker 2: kind of panned out okay, and we thought that we
Speaker 2: were at a point where we could move her into
Speaker 2: the same room. So we did it. The first week,
Speaker 2: it was fine. The last two weeks, however, shits really
Speaker 2: hit the fan. So they are in the same room now,
Speaker 2: but they're also in the same bed.
Speaker 1: Are the size of like a football.
Speaker 2: They are, but they kick each other. They're kicking football,
Speaker 2: so they wake each other up all through the night.
Speaker 1: Put one in the kennel.
Speaker 2: So my suck is is that I thought I was
Speaker 2: gonna break my child like a Brumbie, but she broke me.
Speaker 2: And that's how it always works with parenting.
Speaker 1: And so now they're just sleep in your bed and
Speaker 1: the absolutely give it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, am I sweet for the week. Firstly, my
Speaker 2: biggest sweet is that we are back. I have enjoyed
Speaker 2: having time off, but I have missed you guys.
Speaker 1: I have missed the pod.
Speaker 2: I have missed you brit even though I'm only seeing
Speaker 2: you through a screen. I can't fucking wait for you
Speaker 2: to get back here. I'm so happy that we're back
Speaker 2: and that we're back to normal programming. And let's see
Speaker 2: what twenty twenty four has in store. Well, wow, that
Speaker 2: was like a speech you've signed off on, Martin Luther King.
Speaker 1: Let's see what twenty four because let me tell you,
Speaker 1: it is Mark like the King.
Speaker 2: This is not the year of health. That's what I've established.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is not the year of health.
Speaker 1: Low start. It is the year of health, because I mean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this on another episode, but I
Speaker 1: have dedicated this year to the year of health. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it maybe on Thursday. My suck would be
Speaker 1: I guess this is the stuff right when people post
Speaker 1: only the highlights on their social media. My migraines have
Speaker 1: been next level. They've never been so bad in my life,
Speaker 1: and you know in the Maldives that are actually really bad.
Speaker 1: And there was one night one night, I was up
Speaker 1: the whole night vomiting my feet in the hot bath.
Speaker 1: I was trying to do everything. I'd taken painkillers and
Speaker 1: Ben stayed up the whole night with me, keeping my
Speaker 1: hair out of the toilet and like rubbing my neck
Speaker 1: while I was in the bath, and he was really great.
Speaker 1: But my migraines have been out of controlling. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's hormonal with like aging or post all my egg freezing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but my suck has been my migraine
Speaker 1: and I'm going to get that sorted as soon as
Speaker 1: they get back to Australia. My sweet probably the same, Laura, like,
Speaker 1: I'm just frothing being back with you guys. I think
Speaker 1: that this has been our life for so long, three
Speaker 1: times a week for four years, that when you go
Speaker 1: on holiday and you have a little break, you miss
Speaker 1: your routine and you miss every day and you miss
Speaker 1: speaking to each other, like miss seeing you Laura and Keisha,
Speaker 1: and I miss talking to you guys, so it's really
Speaker 1: nice to be back and seeing you and having a
Speaker 1: laugh again. And I feel like I haven't seen friends
Speaker 1: in a long time because I've been over here just
Speaker 1: with Ben and the neighbors, like the psychic neighbors next
Speaker 1: door I like in Eugene. They're my only friends here.
Speaker 1: Obviously Sheridan's in Edinburgh, an hour away, but it's nice
Speaker 1: to have that connection again, even though it's through the screen.
Speaker 1: So I'm just pumped me back. And also I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see what twenty twenty four bricks the Year of health.
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