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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Hello there, it is twenty past eight, fifty years ago.

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Speaker 3: The Australian rock scene changed forever. Cold Chisel came into

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Speaker 3: our lives and pretty much we all fell in love

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Speaker 3: collectively as a nation. Kai San has still played at

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Speaker 3: every party've ever been to. Jonesy still wants everyone to

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Speaker 3: explain the lyrics to Flame Trees.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't need anyone to explain my lyrics.

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Speaker 3: You and I disagree about what's going on there, but

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Speaker 3: how lucky we are to be standing on the outside

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Speaker 3: looking in at Jimmy Barnes and Ian Moss, who join

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Speaker 3: us now to chat about chisels anniversary tour. Gentlemen, Hello,

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Speaker 3: hello that morning.

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Speaker 1: Hi fifty years yestageous?

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Speaker 3: You know, like, how old were you?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 4: Let's count back fifteen when I first joined the band,

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Speaker 4: I was nearly seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen half and you Ian we about the same.

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Speaker 1: He's about twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: I'm a good thirteen months oldern Yeah, still junct the Burghers.

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Speaker 3: And what would you have pictured old? You know, Valdunican

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Speaker 3: rocking chairs and things?

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Speaker 1: No, you know what I literally for me?

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Speaker 4: You know, I remember joining the band at sixteen and

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Speaker 4: I didn't really care for me twenty one, you know,

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Speaker 4: And that's the way I sort of approached it. I

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Speaker 4: just went went hard and it was all I was

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Speaker 4: just I was I was fleeing my my life and

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Speaker 4: and and and sort of attaching to this new family.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I didn't know bands.

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Speaker 4: Lasted for fifty years, you know, for sure. You know,

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Speaker 4: we we expected sort of just to sort of come in.

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Speaker 1: And burn out eventually.

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Speaker 5: Well, but it was eighty three, is you know, we

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Speaker 5: did have that little hiatus of you.

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Speaker 1: That's when that's real plight where said we'd stopped talking

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Speaker 1: to each other.

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Speaker 2: And I guess in hindsight, do you look back at

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Speaker 2: those days and say, well, what what what went wrong there?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it age? As you get older and you go

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Speaker 2: through more stuff, you look back and you think, well,

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Speaker 2: what was the big deal?

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Speaker 4: And eighty three you mean, yeah, oh yeah, No, I

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Speaker 4: think eighty three was a really good thing because you know,

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Speaker 4: we got like like the same.

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Speaker 1: We were so young when we got together.

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Speaker 4: You know, all we did was was playing music, you know,

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Speaker 4: whereas Don sort of worked hard and thought about the image,

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Speaker 4: sort about the T shirt, sort about the posters wrote

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Speaker 4: the songs we did really very little. And I think

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Speaker 4: stepping away from the band from for those years really

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Speaker 4: made us all realize how much work it really takes

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Speaker 4: to make something great.

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Speaker 5: And and the rest of us said to pull their

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Speaker 5: finger out and for some good things came out of

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Speaker 5: that albums like Matchbook and Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you both had a successful solo careers as well.

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Speaker 2: But as you said, when Don all those years ago

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Speaker 2: said he was going to Armadale to go to university,

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Speaker 2: and you guys sort of went.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, we're going with you. We'll come along with

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Speaker 1: you where you're going, We'll come with you.

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Speaker 3: Are There's some songs that you play now that hit

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Speaker 3: differently because those songs were written when you were so

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Speaker 3: much younger. But do you do you think, God, I've

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Speaker 3: lived a life and now that song is just so powerful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, maybe Flame Trees like that for me.

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Speaker 4: You know, Flame Trees takes on a different meaning all

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Speaker 4: the time. Literally, you know that we're you know, we're

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Speaker 4: talking about off the air, but that that song every

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Speaker 4: night I get really emotional singing it. And a part

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Speaker 4: of that's to do with with passing of Steve, you know,

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Speaker 4: because we love Steve, you know, uh, and part.

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Speaker 1: Of us to do there's just such a great lyric.

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Speaker 4: And an emotional melody, you know, and and you you

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Speaker 4: who weren't around when when that song was recorded, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the front row and and and there there the

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Speaker 4: song takes on a whole new life. So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think most of the songs are like that, you know,

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Speaker 4: you you see them through different eyes as you get older.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that line in it, do

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Speaker 2: you remember nothing stopped us on the field in our day?

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Speaker 2: And this is what we were talking about before, But

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Speaker 2: it's two guys sitting at a bar and then he's

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Speaker 2: just having that beer and then he's making Do you

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Speaker 2: remember nothing stopped us on the field in our day?

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Speaker 1: We were legend we're invincible. Well we weren't.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, we're as as as young men and

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Speaker 4: young you know, young people were invincible, you know, and

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Speaker 4: you realize you know that, you know, maybe you went.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of which your recent health ups and downs, do

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Speaker 3: you hit the stage differently now? Meaning you've always been

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Speaker 3: a grateful person, but do you feel lucky to have

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Speaker 3: another crack like this?

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Speaker 1: Well? You know.

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Speaker 4: The thing was, you know, the last health scare I

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Speaker 4: had was one of those things where it just came

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Speaker 4: out of the blue, and you know, I was I

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Speaker 4: was literally really healthy, probably healthier than I had been

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Speaker 4: for thirty years. And I was swimming every day and

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Speaker 4: doing all this and it's and it just brought home

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Speaker 4: to me how how quickly things can change. And I

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Speaker 4: mean I got I got a staff infection, the blood infection,

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Speaker 4: and it nearly killed me. And that part of that

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Speaker 4: is why we're probably here today. And I'm part of that.

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Speaker 4: That that sort of you know that the fact that

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Speaker 4: and the fact that we lost Steve. We realized that

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Speaker 4: you're really not here for a long time, you know,

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Speaker 4: and and you really should enjoy it while you're here.

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Speaker 4: Any chance I get, no to play music with my

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Speaker 4: with my best friends, you know, and the best friends

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Speaker 4: you know, these are guys that I work with for

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Speaker 4: fifty years, I'm going to jump out seize the day.

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Speaker 1: Basically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mossie, you know because in your time playing

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Speaker 2: with Jim always my favorite song from you guys when

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Speaker 2: you do Saturday Night and when you know, you guys

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Speaker 2: just play that that duo between each other. You've got

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Speaker 2: such a well matched voice to get and when when.

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Speaker 1: You are opposite and.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's also like with bow River, when you

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Speaker 2: hear bow River. I put on the last stand quite regularly.

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Speaker 2: But I just like that bit where Mossy's doing the

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Speaker 2: bit and then you but your voice is like a kettle.

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Speaker 1: It's but it's it's it's down a bit, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean, It's just a real moment where

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Speaker 2: it still gives me chills when I just put it on.

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Speaker 4: Ian and I I think I think we were the

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Speaker 4: perfect war for each other.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Ian's voice is so beautiful. It's round and you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's you know, so much feel to it. And

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Speaker 4: but you know, like sort of you know, like Saturday

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Speaker 4: Night that that sort of you know, that sort of

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Speaker 4: explosion in the middle, you know, like the songs that

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Speaker 4: were literally written for us. Of course, you know, I

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Speaker 4: I think Ian and I are probably the best the

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Speaker 4: best we are as when we're together, and.

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Speaker 2: Wants to be the one that you said if you

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Speaker 2: don't like it, what do you mean standing there?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you say that in the first thing.

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Speaker 5: The other thing for Saturday Night is we've learned the

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Speaker 5: lyrics by now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's when we say we you mean you,

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Speaker 1: and I think that.

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Speaker 4: I think on the last stand, I think I forgot

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Speaker 4: and one of the shows, because there's multiple shows, I

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Speaker 4: forgot the worst of Case and which we've done every night,

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Speaker 4: you know, and and literally, you know it was I

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Speaker 4: was in before we came in. It's one of those

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Speaker 4: things where if you think about it just before you

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Speaker 4: sing it, they're gone.

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Speaker 1: They're gone. Man.

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Speaker 4: That that night, I remember I'd go to sing it

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Speaker 4: and I thought about the lyrics something it was going on.

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Speaker 4: Were whole ship panic, you know, And because we weren't

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Speaker 4: a band that sort of like, come on, you guys,

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Speaker 4: sing it and we'll yeah, we never did.

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Speaker 1: We never shut up.

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Speaker 4: So so I literally had to stand back and let

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Speaker 4: the audience sing the first line and it was like

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Speaker 4: they were all singing along in reading their lips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I know what it is now, Yeah I got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I tell you what the world The

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Speaker 2: pandemic started with Colach his last show, and now we're

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Speaker 2: truly out of it because you guys are getting back

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Speaker 2: together and going on the road, which is just fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm so looking forward to it. Our tickets go on

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Speaker 2: sal June four, follow the links through cultures dot com

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Speaker 2: to get them. Barnsie Mossie, thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 1: So nice to see you guys. Nice to been, nice

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Speaker 1: to be and I'm sing it here. You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Nice to see you