1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: We are so looking forward to next February the twenty first, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Simple Minds and Ice House together in Kings Park. Tickets 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: are on sale now through Ticketmaster and joining us this 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: morning all around the world. We're going Jim Kerr from 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Frankfurt and Ivor Davies is in Sydney. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, my lad's good morning. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: Good morning to you. 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: So are you guys you met back in nineteen eighty one. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: This is not your first rodeo. What do you remember 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: of meeting each other back in eighty one? 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: Ah? Well, I was kind of four worn because I 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: had a friend who had sed me Vinyl, so I 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: knew about this band and it was actually between us 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: and our manager at the time. I think you always 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: had its eye ad on what was happening on the 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: other side of the world, and what was happening was 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: this young band from Scotland called Simple Minds, and that's 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: where we kind of picked up on that song Love Song. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: I think was the very first thing that Australing heard 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: of Simple. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Mind in data was and you, Jim, yeah, same thing. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean it was a mutual friend and result. It 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: was almost like in a student exchange where Eive and 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: the guys came close to ut and UH two with us, 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: and then we got the chance to come ashore with 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: the first team, which was such a big deal and 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: such a thrill and still in I mean especially for 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: me then back then, because I have to tell you 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: my my family was meant to be one of the 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: ten Bob poems. We were really yeah, yeah, yeah, and 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: something happened Mom's family and she cooled out at the 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: end of it and often thought, what if you know, 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: I had come then I could have been Ivor's guitar rodeo, 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: you know. But it's nice to be coming back. 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: And the connection with Australia, the fans, and you know, 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: even that connection early on with the help of Countdown 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: and Molly, it was it just felt like it was 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: meant to happen. And the love from the Australian fans 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 5: is still there after all these years. But back in 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 5: those days it was critical, wasn't it. 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the support was we had a brand new 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: national station with with Double J and I remember being 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: kind of in awe of the technology that Simple Minds 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: had going on, because we thought we were pretty smart. 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 4: We had we had a bunch of new new sympthesizers 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: and stuff that these guys were like in a different league. 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: And you know when I heard love song and I'm oh, man, 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: I want one of those things. 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the two bands have come together to record t 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: Rex's Get It On. 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Jim Well, why that song? Why that particular song? 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: I was laughing there. That's true. We did evolve the 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: new gear, but we couldn't really please I've n the guys. 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: In fact, all the Australian bands could play like Billy 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: or so. But coming to the track, which again is 56 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: such a pleasure because obviously Ivan and I are both 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: huge fans of Reps yes Mark Bolan, and when we 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: decided to do a song, just so happens that this 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: was the first record ever bought as a teenager. Well, 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: the album that the song comes from, Get It On 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: it as an album called Election Warrior. So all these 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 3: years later, you know, to get a chance of saying 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: one of our favorite songs and to do one of 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: our favorite bands. And thanks for Ivan. The guys they 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: do great well, they do great songs of their own, 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: but they do great cover them. 67 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I've had last time we caught up 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: when you met your love for David Bowie, but your 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: incredible love for Mike Bolan and the stuff he came 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: out with t Rex, and even the fact that you 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: had a song like Baby Also Strange, which was so 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: much influenced by that style. Mate, I didn't realize how 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: your depth of love for the man. 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: Well when we were we started out as a covers band, obviously, 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: and a lot of bands do. I think it's probably 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: the majority of bands to And I was trying to 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: think of how many songs of Tarannosaurus Rex and t 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: Rex that we used to play, and the list, you know, 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: I kind of got the seven songs, and then the 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: list kept going and I went, wow, you know, we 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: were playing really early stuff. And it's all thanks to 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: a girlfriend who had a massive record collection and she 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: dumped me, and thanks to her that I got introduced 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: to all that music very early on. And this is 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: such a classic song. We couldn't resist really, not. 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Just cover bands. 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: By the way, Iver, I saw us a set to 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: play on the steps at Sydney Opera. 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: House next month. 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Is it true that you first played there in the 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: seventies as part of an orchestra. 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: It's absolutely true. I think I turned eating by about 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: three weeks and as part of the Conservatorium of Music, 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: which was, you know, the leading institute of music in Australia. 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: I had just become a full time student. I was 96 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: in the senior orchestra and we were told to go 97 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: down the road to that new building that isn't finished 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: yet and we performed the very first two one act 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: Australian operas actually they were written by Australian composers in 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: the Opera House. This is months before the Queen actually 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: officially opened the Opera House, so you know I was 102 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: there in that orchestra pit well while I was still 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: building it around me. I'm always readible. 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I've always believed Eva that your classical training would have 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: to have been one of the things that really set 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: you apart as a great musician. Would you agree that 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: there is nothing like having that, you know, as broad 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: a background as that. 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: I would agree wholeheartedly, except that the massive liability that 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 4: came that was that Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistoles 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: had just announced to the world to qualify as a 112 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: proper punk band. You can't know actually what you're doing, 113 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 4: you can't play an instrument at all, and so I 114 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: kept that a very very very very big secret for 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: a very long time. I just want to know. 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: Jim has told us in the past that he's preserved 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 5: his voice, that beautiful voice, by not talking and going 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: to get drinking out the shows. So have you done 119 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: the right thing with you, good mate over the years 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: and gone out drinking with Charlie Birchall, the Simple Minds guitarist. 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: Well, we certainly did in that first tour. And I 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: remember we went out one night. Now I think we're 123 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: in a club in Manchester or something like that, and 124 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: I remember very specifically it was. It had a kind 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: of mezzanine level, so you look out over the dance 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: floor and you know, it was dark and incredibly loud. 127 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: I think Charlie probably had a couple couple of glasses 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: of lager by that point. And I don't know whether 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: you've ever spoken to a person with an incredibly thick 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: glass region his yep accent. I had a conversation with 131 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: Charlie that was about forty minutes long, and I reckon 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: I didn't understand about ninety five percent of everything that 133 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: he said. I just kind of nodded and yes, yes, 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: And it was a very interesting forty minutes the interpreter. 135 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: That's funny. 136 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: Charlie for forty years and ninety percent of the stuff, 137 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what he's saying about. 138 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: That's right, So you're not insane, Yes, as well, maybe. 139 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: That's what. 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: I can see. That's why, that's how it was. Whatever, 141 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: whatever he's seen, it sounds great. So that's Sae. 142 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 5: But haven't you too, You and Charlie nine each other 143 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: since you were in short pants? 144 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: Man? 145 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 5: Were you seven or eight or something? 146 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, we'll talking about interest. 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: Miss. 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: Was was a new housing scheme backing glass that was 149 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: still building it and literally, you know, moving in model 150 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: and we're going into the street. And because we're still 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: building it, there was you know, cements and sand castles 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: and that, and there's this kid sitting at the top 153 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: of the castle and it was Sharlie. And we've been 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 3: together ever since. 155 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: Now, Jim, if I just may be forgiven for falling 156 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: for one moment. I have been a huge Simple Minds 157 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: fan ever since Simple Minds came out. 158 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: I loved you know, I'm an eighties child. 159 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Someone Somewhere in Summertime is one of my all time 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: favorite songs. One thing I've always loved to watch is 161 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: the fluidity that you always had of motion when you're performing. 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: It was mesmerizing. 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: But how are your knees these days? 164 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: I still get away with that? 165 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: How did you get into that robbery thing? You know? 167 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: I said this, going the poms and glassgown avoiding the 168 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: vocals coming up in the dark. 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: Du so you were ducking and waving. 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: You got you got nothing? Yeah you. 171 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was a beautiful thing. 172 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 5: You gotta stay limba. Yes, hey, I know that. I 173 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: know that you had some health issues. Man, how are 174 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: you going? And now we were in you're actually in 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 5: Perth when a lot of stuff was going down earlier 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 5: in the year. But we were very concerned for you. 177 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: But you're you're all good. 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually if I can give 179 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: a shout to the wonderful people at the emergency room 180 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: of the per hospital there, which I spent three days. Yeah, 181 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: and yeah, it was a very interesting time. So you 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: have many, many, many kind of tests and stuff. Later. 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 4: We seem to be queer at beginning of complaining today 184 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: and doing another big show this weekend. Last week and 185 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: we played as well, and I think the stage we're 186 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: on tomorrow night is one of possibly one of the 187 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: biggest stages we've ever been on. I've got to the 188 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: manager and sent me a photograph yesterday. And last time 189 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: we played in Adelaide, the bass player ran into me 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: and decked himself. And I said, well, it doesn't matter 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 4: how big big stages, Larry, I recoon, the bass player's 192 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: still going to run into me. 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: Since the directions gone, players, what did you ask you both? 194 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Actually, there's been a lot of music documentaries made recently, 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: some very good ones, and are you fans of these? 196 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Would you consider doing. 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: That release of documentary? And if there was something we 198 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: agree in t reposition, but directors call everything obvious, thing 199 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: is possible? And yeah, I think it did a good 200 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: a good job. 201 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: I look forward to that. 202 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: How about yourself, ever, No, that's a very interesting year 203 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to this simple mind. Yeah, I 204 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: don't know. It's we have been asked, and I think 205 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: there were plans, but I'm not really good at coming 206 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: back over stuff. It's tricky. 207 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And have you seen being a Bowie fan, 208 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 5: have you seen Moonat's Daydream which was an incredible film. 209 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: Lister, When I said this, I mean that was next 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: level as a documentary. Wasn't it. 211 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, no, I haven't seen it, but I've seen 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 4: a number of things. And you know, my my big, 213 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: my big kind of passion with David Bowie was it 214 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: was actually his lead guitarist, Mick Ronson, who was from 215 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: the original band, and I kind of modeled my entire 216 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,119 Speaker 4: sound on Mick Ronson. And there is an incredibly, incredibly 217 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: interesting documentary on Mick Ronson called The Side Bowie, and 218 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: I can recommend that to people because yeah, he's always 219 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: been a massive hero of mine. 220 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: Well, I've put that. 221 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: On my list, dream on your list, and on that note, 222 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: we will look we will all look forward to Simple 223 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: mind documentary coming out in just weeks. 224 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: Jim Ducking and weaving forty plus. 225 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: Years, I'm gonna look at that in a whole new 226 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: way now, Jim Kerr and Iva Davies. We can't wait 227 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: to see Simple Minds and Ice House at Kingspark February twenty. 228 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: First tickets are through Ticketmaster. Thank you for joining us from. 229 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: Frankfurt, Sydney and beaming into Perth. 230 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Thank you boys, Thank you very much. 231 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Thank you see you in February. 232 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 4: So you're here