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Speaker 1: Welcome to the BTS the hardcore BTS fans.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Got another If you've got a question for us, please

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Speaker 1: get us up. But we were just saying that the

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Speaker 1: question box is running a little low.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if that's because the questions aren't coming

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Speaker 4: in or if Back of House is not updated back

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Speaker 4: I haven't done it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I've got a bunch, but I just have a.

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Speaker 1: Back of House has beens Like, isn't it that about that?

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Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it?

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Speaker 2: Kb Andy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, b it's the middle name Beatrice and.

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Speaker 2: Performance reviewer coming for you.

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Speaker 5: KB.

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Speaker 2: You should know she.

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Speaker 3: Owned up to it and I like that.

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Speaker 2: That's their first step.

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Speaker 3: That's the first first step for you.

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Speaker 1: Now we answer your questions in this podcast. So we've

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Speaker 1: got first question out of the box. That's the deal.

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Speaker 1: We've got to answer the first one. What is your

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Speaker 1: least favorite emotion?

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Speaker 2: This is easy for me, This is very easy, very topical. Actually, yes.

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Speaker 1: For the Shamo merch chat, absolutely, Kyle on Share my

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Speaker 1: Mood with Jackie O.

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Speaker 4: If you haven't heard, we've got like a new podcast

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Speaker 4: called Shamo where we're literally talking about the fact that

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Speaker 4: at some point.

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Speaker 3: You have to feel all your.

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Speaker 4: Feelings, even if you're scared of them, and we talked

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Speaker 4: to all these people about how they do it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: fascinating that this question has popped up. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 4: this is a share my mood fan who's popping this

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Speaker 4: question in?

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Speaker 6: Well, potentially it woulds and also inside out too is

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Speaker 3: Did you know that I didn't know that. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know that I loved the first one? Yeah, I loved it.

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Speaker 2: We just we just answered a big brief for Disney

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Speaker 2: about that. So was I that meeting anyway?

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Speaker 1: Least favorite emotion mine comfortably because I know what feeling

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Speaker 1: this feels like, huh, and it I think the times

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Speaker 1: that I've felt it most strongly in my life at

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Speaker 1: the times that I've hated myself the most, And they

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Speaker 1: are the times where I've felt the most helpless to

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Speaker 1: this emotion as well. And that's jealous A Jealousy is

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Speaker 1: a shocking, shocking, shocking, shocking, ugly emotion.

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Speaker 2: I actually got so.

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Speaker 1: One time I broke up with a girl and unfairly

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Speaker 1: got very jealous afterwards. I was at twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with jealousy because I just was

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Speaker 1: it made me feel so yuck about myself. That did

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of research into it.

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Speaker 2: But isn't that so interesting?

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Speaker 4: Twenty one year old you was like, I don't want

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Speaker 4: that was to do research.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a testosterone field kid has come straight

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Speaker 2: Right there. I know what I'll do. I'll hit it

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Speaker 1: So basically what I discovered was it's a shame that

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Speaker 1: because when somebody is jealous, it's so ugly. They call

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Speaker 1: it mean, they call it the green eyed monster. It's

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Speaker 1: so ugly that we often we reject them, we disparage them.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like, I don't be jealous. I don't get jealous.

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Speaker 1: And it's almost like they had a choice in the jealousy.

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Speaker 1: the reason they call it the green eyed monster is

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Speaker 1: because in Elizabethan times, so like when Shakespeare was writing

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Speaker 1: all of his greatest gears, You've learned from your research,

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Speaker 1: to if someone got really sick, you describe someone as green.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're a car turn Yeah, someone goes green.

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Speaker 1: Your emoji is sick.

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Speaker 3: That's spiling.

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Speaker 4: You're about to spear, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And that's why they call jealousy the green eyed monster

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Speaker 1: is because that Shakespeare used to describe someone as being

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Speaker 1: Green with envy is his expression. And you're green with

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Speaker 3: What is the cure?

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Speaker 1: I think, to try and find a way to be

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Speaker 1: live a great life, right, And then you can kind

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Speaker 1: of step that out to maybe someone that you don't

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: You just really try and reprogram how because then you

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Speaker 2: And that might not work the first time. You might

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Speaker 1: The first time you might go now, fuck them, I'm

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Speaker 1: I kind of eventually got around it. Yeah you actually, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is a disgusting feeling to be jealous of someone.

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Speaker 3: Are you jealous of anyone?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Jeez?

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Speaker 3: Should we go to those sponsors?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I'm jealous of anyone? Now?

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Speaker 4: All right, we're back, Will I'm gonna be honest, he

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Speaker 4: had his head in his hands through that entire amazing advertisement.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to purchase all of what they're offering.

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Speaker 4: But you absolutely do not have to share this, by

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you are jealous of anyone right now?

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Speaker 1: Right now, do I feel jealous of anyone?

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Speaker 1: It's funny like these days, if I feel jealousy, maybe

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Speaker 1: Jealousy like I see someone doing something that I aspire

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Speaker 2: With you working anything, I'm sure you have exactly the

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Speaker 1: And I think the good thing is that in the

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Speaker 1: that we probably should have got that job, that's right,

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Speaker 1: And I think it wasn't helped for the fact that

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Speaker 2: That we should have got that job. And I remember

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Speaker 1: and I just I was definitely jealous, and I mean

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Speaker 2: I don't think he might not even noticed.

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Speaker 1: like what the antidote to it is like catching you

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Speaker 1: that scene in willon Rouge, you know, when you and

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Speaker 1: about the duke sleeping with Setine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, his lips upon your hand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great song. That sort of jealousy,

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Speaker 4: But so you could send them love, that's definitely one

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Speaker 4: way to do it, or just imagine them taking a pooh.

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Speaker 2: I once been on Reddit.

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Speaker 3: That's all that is so awesome, so good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: More than you, right, more than you right?

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Speaker 1: Franklin Roosevelt said that Frankie.

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Speaker 4: D had a lot of good ones.

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Speaker 1: Said, comparison is the thief of joy. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: So if you find yourself comparing yourself for getting jealous

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Speaker 4: Comparison is it might be in the opposite of being grateful.

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Speaker 4: Being grateful for what you have or what you are doing.

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Speaker 4: If you are constantly comparing. What's the difference then between

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Speaker 4: Because there is a difference, But I think there is

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Speaker 4: a similarity there, the difference between being jealous of and

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Speaker 4: being inspired by.

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Speaker 1: Because I think that that again, it comes from that

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Speaker 1: place of comparison. I don't think you're I feel like

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Speaker 1: that I'm inspired by. It's egoless in a way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a aspiration is a lack of clinging to something.

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Speaker 2: Then I think there's a sense.

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Speaker 2: To love something is to be unattached from it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not detached from it, unattached from it, to live

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Speaker 4: Because she's doing something right energy?

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Speaker 3: That's exciting. How far do you reckon it is from

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Speaker 4: She'd have a big bedroom, huge bedroom, but she's got

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Speaker 3: Need to get a closer, We need to get a

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Speaker 4: A toilet in the room for the midnight waves, having.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen no kangnes is like you just walk

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