1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Jump Mission with Jones and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: It's Chris Reasons season Channel seven Reporters season season Channel. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Seven seasoning on to you guys, anywhere I can hang 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: my flak jacket. Ten kilos of this thing I've been 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: wearing around for the last months in Ukraine. Much lighter 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: without it, much much happier to be home. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: I've got to tell it now, when you see those 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: guys wearing the flak jacket, is it just for show 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: or is it look? 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean I always thought so, and I looked dreadful 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: in a helmet. And there's all sorts of fashion and 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: style things to consider when you're in a war zone. 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: But that flat jacket, I just my cameraman used to 14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: sleep in his. It was. There were a few tense moments, yeah, Jonesy. 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: We were kind of in the middle of the capital 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: t Kiev, which was on the constant bombing through the 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: day and the night, and of all the times and 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: all the places I've been, that was the one time 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I kept that thing on. We kept so many security 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: protocols in place. We were always there with an exit plan, 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: always there with a carful of petrol and three Jerry 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: cans in the back. We wanted to be able to 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: get to any border at any time if the Russians 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: came and blocked us in. It was a really it 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: was a fascinating assignment on so many levels. But I 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: love those sort of stories that they're ten percent journalism 27 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: in ninety percent logistics and security, and you know, it's 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: boy scout journalism in a lot of ways. You've got 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: to stay safe, You've got to keep your crew safe. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: It's it is hairy stuff. You actually went viral eight 31 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: point two million views on Twitter with your interview with 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: the mayor of Kieth. Houghton says he's only targeting military targets. Bullshit. 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, where's Mute Duga is? 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: His building is Multo dug It. 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: I love how he talks. 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: That guy. He's so tough. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: That's the tal tough any amazing sure. 38 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Is about one hundred feet too. And don't forget he's 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: a former world boxing champion and I thought he was 40 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: about to try out some of his old punches on me. 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: When I asked that question, it was it was an 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: impertinent question, it was a relevant one. And when he's 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: because we were walking along doing an interview and he 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: stopped and he spun and he spat out those words bs. 45 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: And he pointed around the buildings that we were standing 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: in the rubble of and he said, does this look 47 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: like a military target? And it's summed up in just 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: that one SoundBite. I said, that's the end of the interview. 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't need anymore. I knew that was a SoundBite. 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: We walked away, We put that SoundBite online and off 51 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: it went viral, eight and a half million views. I've 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. Stephen Colbert used it in 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: the opening of his show CNN It's Going Everyone used 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: it because it's summed up what the Russian foreign policy 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: really came down to a bunch of bs. 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: Do you think being there, do you think that Ukraine 57 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: can do this? Or what it is? 58 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: This? 59 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: What is this? 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: What's get them out, get their country back, get their 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: lives back in order to get and start the process 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: of rebuilding, get the Russians out, and get Ukraine back 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: on track to where it wanted to go. You walk 64 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: out of a story like this, and usually it's full 65 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: of horror and heartbreak, and this one was there's no 66 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: doubt about that. Cities like Mario, Pole, Harkiv, and Kiev 67 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: itself smashed pieces, but a big butt here. I've never 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: walked out of a situation like this filled with so 69 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: much inspiration. It was everywhere. The heart and the soul 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: of the Ukrainian people is something to behold. I want 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: to We're driving down rod it stops off, stops up top. 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: I saw a young boy not with a gun in 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: his hand, but a shovel in his hand. He's digging 74 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: trenches and we go up and we talk to him 75 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: and his mum, what are you doing. He's fourteen years old, 76 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: same age as my son, and he's digging trenches and 77 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: his mom says to me, his grandfather did this for 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: World War II histories in a cycle. Here he's going 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to defend his country. I saw old women with koleshnikovs, 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a young young girl who was doing a biology master's 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: degree with the big buddy Holly sort of, you know, 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: daggy glasses and everything in these bought Amazon fatigues. They've 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: all gone on too Amazon and bought their fatigues where 84 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: they want to be part of the army, but they've 85 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: been given these free AK forty seven. And she's I said, 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: when did you get that? She's three days ago fired 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: it yet No, No, I want to not really will 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: you have to? Yeah, this is this is a twenty 89 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: two year old woman who's a university biology student, prepared 90 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to give it all to defend the country and that 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: sort of resolve is going to get them there. 92 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: But also putin I think he's quite surprised that the 93 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: resistance that he's seen and this campaign has is dragged 94 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: on longer than he would How does he exit exit? 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the hard part. What can what can Ukraine 96 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: give him? What can the West give him? What can 97 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: the negotiators give him to make him look like he 98 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: goes back to his country with a victory, because that's 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: he needs it. We know he's a dictator, we know 100 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: he's he's a proud man, his backs to the wall. 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: He wants to be able. He knows he's losing, he 102 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: knows this hasn't gone as you say, Jameson. You know 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: the way they plan, they thought they'd roll over this 104 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: country within days. We're now at thirty five, thirty six 105 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: days in and it's actually them being rolled out and 106 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: that but to get them out of the country and 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: to stop this becoming Europe's Afghanistan, to stop this becoming 108 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: a festering store saw in the east of Europe for 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: the next ten years. Is they need to hand him 110 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: something and so there you go. What will that be? 111 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Part of the country in the east, the don Bass 112 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: region they've been fighting over the last few years, Guarantees 113 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: that they don't join NATO, guarantees that they have no 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: security plant, whatever it is. They're going to have to 115 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: give him something or he won't stop. 116 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: Just give him that he wants that. Chris is so 117 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: good that you're back, and it's so good, and you've 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: got some papers through this. 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: At Mes, I walked in and said, make sure your 120 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: hand is to the guard you leave. 121 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Their orders from the front. It's going viral. Chris Reason, 122 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: thank you. 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: It's good to have you. 124 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. Jonesy and Amanda's genation