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Speaker 1: Well, if you recognize that voice, it is the deputy

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Speaker 1: chief Beniston and Cole Madison in the studio with us

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, and I apologize an advance of ice slur.

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Speaker 3: I've been up since two o'clock in the morning with

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Speaker 2: As long as you don't e spread your germs will

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Speaker 2: be right.

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Speaker 3: Shell.

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Speaker 2: LOOKI gezy I furic. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: I Thinkaty was nineteen in the ruler.

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Speaker 5: In my place.

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Speaker 2: So nice this morning?

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Speaker 4: You didn't want to get out of bed?

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Speaker 2: No, I bet they did fit.

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Speaker 4: Stuck to the purchase was so cold. How about the goats,

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Speaker 4: Oh they're still tucked up to.

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Speaker 2: God from the NTUS. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced such a cool day in Darwin

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Speaker 1: Top not this cold?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jos, I don't have anything.

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Speaker 1: Marie Claire Boothby, Good morning to you. You and I

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Speaker 1: have whipped out Jacobson were once a year Katie.

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Speaker 7: Good morning everyone, And I was just thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Everyone I hear is like, all okay, and you and I.

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Speaker 8: A rugged up.

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Speaker 1: Well, it always gets cold in this office, so I've

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Speaker 2: That's right now.

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Speaker 1: It's been an interesting week. There's been a bit going on,

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Speaker 1: just very quickly though. To give people a bit of

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Speaker 1: an update, we do know that overnight investigations are underway

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Speaker 1: to determine the cause of a structure fire that's affected

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Speaker 1: in Wilna. The fire was reported to triple zero about

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Speaker 1: seven twenty last night, with firefighters from Darwin, Marra and

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Speaker 1: it was pretty serious overnight and you know, not something

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Speaker 3: No. I mean over the last sort of fire five years,

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Speaker 5: We see the Asian emporiums coming back up again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a big thanks to the fieries do a

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Speaker 3: great job and fortunately couldn't have got any closer to

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, it must have been devastating for that business.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's been a really tough time anyway, and

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Speaker 7: then of course to have that happen, it's absolutely devastating.

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Speaker 1: All of us, no doubt about it. Now, yesterday some

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Speaker 1: good news for business. We know that the Northern Territories

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Speaker 1: so obviously the Chief Minister in attached to files making

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Speaker 2: But it is certainly welcome.

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Speaker 1: Or news which has been welcomed by the likes of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a huge day yesterday. We sat in Simpsy and

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Speaker 1: Estheteritory wild, isn't it When you think about what we've

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Speaker 2: It has been a ride.

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Speaker 1: You know. I was thinking to myself yesterday here at

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Speaker 1: Was there was times where businesses were shut you know,

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Speaker 4: To normal operation of their business. I mean, yes, it's

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Speaker 4: obviously hit lots of businesses, including the hospitality, but there's

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Speaker 4: And it meant for I know a lot of businesses

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Speaker 6: And someone was telling me yesterday that the mandate coming

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Speaker 4: Tom Maybe the glenty can come back on why issue,

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Speaker 5: But I just want to be very clear that there is.

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Speaker 3: A national worker shortage across this nation right now, and

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Speaker 6: Government, and industry is aware of that that there isn't

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Speaker 6: international Absolutely cracking again. You know, someone said to me

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Speaker 3: In the hospitality industry, feedback from industry, backpackers and just

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Speaker 7: Of things in there that everyone has touched on. But

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Speaker 7: I guess one of the things from some of the

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Speaker 7: course it's welcomed that this has happened, but there is

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Speaker 2: Done well that worker shortage.

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Speaker 1: I think that it is like it's something that we've

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Speaker 3: That there's a there's a raft different work happening some

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Speaker 3: we've got Paul Kirby who's working around getting more employees in.

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Speaker 3: We've got a three million dollar fund that's looking at

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Speaker 5: But I met with Don Farrell, the new Minister for Trade.

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Speaker 3: But give us more. Yeah, if you give us the spaces.

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Speaker 5: We've got about fourteen hundred spaces every year, give us.

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Speaker 3: More, we will fill them and we will fill them

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Speaker 1: Sing you know, I think what it's shown is over

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Speaker 1: for everybody to say, oh, we've got to employ locals

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Speaker 5: But that's right.

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Speaker 3: I think we've got a system in Australia now where

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Speaker 3: will simply not take the jobs to pick mangoes, to

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course we'd love to employ locals, but if

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Speaker 1: But I guess what is quite surprising is how high

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Speaker 1: So the CPI for housing including utilities increase by fifteen

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Speaker 2: You don't have to go far to sort of see it.

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Speaker 1: But even yeah, that's exactly right, exactly so you haven't

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Speaker 4: Substitute it completely. As I understand, they're going to mix it.

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Speaker 2: You think it a spinach or something else that's worse.

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Speaker 5: Katie? What what?

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Speaker 4: What concerns me? When you get this high cost of

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Speaker 4: Things that intangible, things you can't see. And sometimes I

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Speaker 2: And you look on top of that as well.

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Speaker 1: We saw the racee rise earlier in the week all side,

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Speaker 6: And Darwin doesn't have the luxury of other big capital

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Speaker 7: St they did, and that's recommendations about that, and it

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Speaker 1: Which a bit earlier in the week we spoke to

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Speaker 9: We know that the A Triple C in a report

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Speaker 3: Look, if it was something that was workable, we would

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Speaker 5: But again it's it's it's we need.

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Speaker 3: The bodies like the AH we'll see keeping a close

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Speaker 3: So our policy is that you know fuel, sorry, that

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Speaker 2: Honestly, if it went off now, people would be like

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Speaker 3: So basically that's why we've kept We're keeping power prices

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Speaker 5: I just got to get that price, Thomas.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 8: This is a symptom.

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Speaker 7: years of just poor economic mismanagement, and you know, we've

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Speaker 7: seen no major projects come out of the ground. We've

446
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Speaker 7: got so much work to do in that space, and

447
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,719
Speaker 7: now we're seeing this and we don't even know what

448
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Speaker 7: labor are doing in this space. To get the economy

449
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Speaker 7: going again, to just loosen the rains.

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Speaker 5: Goodness, I'm looking forward. They're responding to this.

451
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Speaker 7: We need to loosen the rain. It's like every turn

452
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Speaker 7: a business has it just makes it harder and harder

453
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Speaker 7: to do business.

454
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Speaker 5: What have you been doing for the last few years

455
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Speaker 5: in that house? Have you been listening.

456
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Speaker 3: A lot of retoric A lot all Seriously, go look,

457
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Speaker 3: we look a core lithium project that is happening. Look

458
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Speaker 3: at the Barossa FID, look at the work that has been.

459
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Speaker 2: Real jobs, deer reckon have been created.

460
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Speaker 3: Goodness, we've been absolutely cranking it out on the civil

461
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Speaker 3: contracting side with roads investment, like real new jobs. Yes,

462
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Speaker 3: these are real jobs that happen here in the Northern Territory.

463
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Speaker 3: So we've had open data centers. There is a huge

464
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Speaker 3: amount of work happening in mining exploration.

465
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Speaker 5: There's a massive work happening in gas exploration.

466
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Speaker 1: Like you have to admit, a lot of it is

467
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Speaker 1: very early days. Like a lot of those projects up

468
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Speaker 1: very early days. They're not sort of not even sun so,

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Speaker 1: like I take the point that you're making. I take

470
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Speaker 1: the point that both of you are making. I think

471
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Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, we all want

472
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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory to succeed, and we certainly want those

473
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Speaker 1: major projects to get off the ground, you know. But

474
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Speaker 1: the point that's being made is it's so bloody expensive

475
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Speaker 1: to live here.

476
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Speaker 2: But also we actually don't have housing.

477
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Speaker 3: For people to move some of those table as well,

478
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Speaker 3: and there is a lot to be excited about in

479
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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. But you guys have seen the budget

480
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Speaker 3: that was just handed down, and we have got housing

481
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Speaker 3: pressures in the Darwin, Catherine Tennant Creek Alla Springs. That's

482
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Speaker 3: why we are doing more land release, That's why we're

483
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Speaker 3: looking at fast tracking more housing supply because you want

484
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Speaker 3: to make sure it is affordable for people to be

485
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Speaker 3: able to live here.

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Speaker 5: We saw what happened in impects.

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Speaker 3: We saw that very large cost of living pressures went

488
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Speaker 3: up quite rapidly, and you've got to make sure that

489
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Speaker 3: when we all benefit from economic growth, that it is

490
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Speaker 3: the poorest people that do not get left behind.

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Speaker 6: And housing is a huge issue that you have friends

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Speaker 6: who you know were looking to move homes because their

493
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Speaker 6: rents too high or whatever. They did a pick search

494
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Speaker 6: and they could barely find anything, so that it's an

495
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Speaker 6: issue now.

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Speaker 7: And if they were doing such a good job, like

497
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Speaker 7: why are we lagging in all economic indicators?

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Speaker 6: Where are the construction Craand again, do you.

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Speaker 5: Actually read economic indicators?

500
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Speaker 1: We do?

501
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Speaker 5: We all see.

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Speaker 1: To your own deloite one that came out not too

503
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Speaker 1: long ago also showed that there.

504
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Speaker 2: Are areas that were a struggling.

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Speaker 3: So I think that it's one budget peaks and go

506
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Speaker 3: have a look again and it's very strong.

507
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Speaker 1: I get that you obviously are feeling excited that these

508
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Speaker 1: projects are the very a long time now, there's still

509
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Speaker 1: a way off som some cable is literally for you

510
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Speaker 1: to say some cable fantastic, there's no job.

511
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Speaker 2: It's not actually happening.

512
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Speaker 5: For years, and we're discussions previously where you've.

513
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Speaker 3: Sitt here going you know, oh my gosh, there are

514
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Speaker 3: a vacancy is everywhere, and guess what, it's a good

515
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Speaker 3: sign of economic health when you've got issues with housing pressures.

516
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Speaker 6: But I don't see the construction of cranes.

517
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Speaker 8: That's right. There's only one crain in the sky right now, one.

518
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Speaker 4: I think.

519
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Speaker 1: But the thing is, I don't actually get the point

520
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Speaker 1: that you're making them matter because there are there are

521
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Speaker 1: still vacancy rates, and there are vacancy rates at the moment.

522
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Speaker 1: Like with the houses, there's not but do you know

523
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Speaker 1: how bloody expensive it is for people to rent there.

524
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Speaker 1: You actually need to have that foresight as well in

525
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Speaker 1: terms of planning for that housing to come online.

526
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Speaker 2: And that land release.

527
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Speaker 1: I know that that's happening now, but we've been talking

528
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Speaker 1: about this for years, Like you just pointed.

529
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Speaker 3: Out, we've been housing that's been coming out of the ground.

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Speaker 3: There's been further releases that as Marie Claire would know

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Speaker 3: very well. Out in Palmerston, you have got what's happening

532
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Speaker 3: out at your Head North and Lee Point. We're seeing

533
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Speaker 3: further development that is happening. We're doing further residential planning.

534
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Speaker 2: But also.

535
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Speaker 3: Do you know what you also see when this happens,

536
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Speaker 3: is that we have got several new developments that do

537
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Speaker 3: have planning approval unit developments, those residential developments four years ago.

538
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Speaker 3: We're having issues with banks lending money. We met with

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Speaker 3: the na B Board the other day. We're not going

540
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Speaker 3: to see those same issues. We're going to see money

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Speaker 3: flowing through to get to those developers and that those

542
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Speaker 3: projects coming out of the ground.

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Speaker 7: What about the labor of scrapping the first homeowners? I

544
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Speaker 7: mean that alone is something that should be looked at again.

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Speaker 7: Is it being looked at again?

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Speaker 1: There is about that, But there's always there's always a

547
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Speaker 1: lag of time delayed.

548
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Speaker 4: No, no, not a time.

549
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Speaker 8: There's always a.

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Speaker 4: Lag from when projects talked about to when it actually

551
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Speaker 4: is developed and operational. And now, my as you know

552
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Speaker 4: and listeners would know my background in the mining industry,

553
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Speaker 4: we don't have made world class projects coming online or

554
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Speaker 4: even think thought about.

555
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Speaker 3: Now.

556
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Speaker 4: I don't take anything away from Pull Lithium and their project.

557
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Speaker 4: That's a ten to thirteen year sus so yeah, very close,

558
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Speaker 4: I'll get to a refere So I take nothing away

559
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Speaker 4: from coul Lithium because that is a very nice project

560
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Speaker 4: for thirteen years and hopefully we'll go on longer than

561
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Speaker 4: thirteen years. And yes we've got a few resources with

562
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Speaker 4: their rare earth project outside other springs, but that's being

563
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Speaker 4: in the pipeline for the best part of twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: It's a complicated metallogy that project. You know, it's separating

566
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Speaker 4: all the rares from each other such that you can

567
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Speaker 4: get them to the market. Now, that's not only going

568
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Speaker 4: to the financial investment decision, They've also then got to

569
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Speaker 4: construct not only the MIND, the processing plant. Now that

570
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Speaker 4: processing plant will be a big project. That will be

571
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Speaker 4: a big project, and that's probably one of the few

572
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Speaker 4: KLG nice project. But when I talk about world class projects,

573
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Speaker 4: we're talking about a MIND that's going to operate for

574
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Speaker 4: twenty plus years, and it's got a massive rich deposit

575
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Speaker 4: like gem Code, like the granite like.

576
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Speaker 3: Here.

577
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Speaker 2: A matter of sharing a microphone that's quiet at the moment.

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Speaker 4: We have lost Range and that was a world class

579
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Speaker 4: deposit that has closed. We've got gem Co that's possibly

580
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Speaker 4: got about trus years on known reserves they still might find.

581
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Speaker 4: We've got Macarthurriver and we've got the granites. Show me

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Speaker 4: another world class deposit, world class apart from Arafura that

583
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Speaker 4: we've got. I think all these nice minds around Pine

584
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Speaker 4: Creek are great. The Pine Creek Go Syncline is hugely

585
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Speaker 4: huge potential. Even the iron ore potential projects out the

586
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Speaker 4: rope Away, they're all great. But we've got to have

587
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Speaker 4: big minds and big projects which give us downstream processing.

588
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Speaker 2: So ask as well, what's happened.

589
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Speaker 4: It takes years, it takes that takes long.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone understands that it is going to take.

591
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Speaker 1: It will take an awful long time for some of

592
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Speaker 1: those really large projects. Madam, you able to clear up

593
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Speaker 1: for us once and for all. What's happening with the

594
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Speaker 1: praun FA. What's happening with.

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Speaker 3: So clearly they're doing a bit of work. There's been

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Speaker 3: a bit of restructure.

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Speaker 5: In turn.

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Speaker 3: I'm still confident that you will see activity and you

599
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Speaker 3: will see aquaculture steaming ahead there, but they've had to

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Speaker 3: do a bit of restructuring there at a company level.

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Speaker 2: But there is you're I'm still going to go ahead.

602
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it will, but it's not going to

603
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Speaker 3: happen clearly immediately.

604
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Speaker 5: They're doing a bit of restructuring work.

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Speaker 3: I think by the time we get to next year's

606
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Speaker 3: dry season we'll have a clearer understanding of what the

607
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Speaker 3: pathway forward.

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Speaker 7: It's been years and I'm making Can I just go

609
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Speaker 7: back to those building approvals because I've found the Northern

610
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Speaker 7: Territory government document which talks about an annual change in

611
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Speaker 7: residential building approvals for Australia it's down thirty four percent,

612
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Speaker 7: but in the Territory it's down seventy one percent. Like,

613
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Speaker 7: what is labor doing about that? This is your own report.

614
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Speaker 3: So again I'd say, Marie Claire, go have a look

615
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Speaker 3: at how lumpy figures can be in that regard. I

616
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Speaker 3: don't know what exactly the figures you're looking at if

617
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Speaker 3: you're looking at monthly, if you're looking at quarterlack looking

618
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Speaker 3: annually or year or year, but they can be very

619
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Speaker 3: lumpy in a very small economy like this.

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Speaker 2: But so what do you do then?

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Speaker 1: If you don't sort of trust the figures, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't trust reports, what do you.

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Speaker 8: Look to be the treasurer so you would know this report.

624
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Speaker 8: I mean it's a Treasury report.

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Speaker 6: Aimed to get away from this lumpiness to spoom bus

626
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Speaker 6: cycle as well, to try and smooth that out.

627
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Speaker 8: So they talk about it, but we haven't seen any

628
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Speaker 8: evidence of that.

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Speaker 6: Actually been coming to pruisient housing approval. Shouldn't you have

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Speaker 6: policies in.

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Speaker 3: Place, Thomas the trying the whole plan of the government

632
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Speaker 3: about economic diversity implementations. Look at all the new industry

633
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Speaker 3: that is coming on board, all the different projects that

634
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Speaker 3: we've got coming on board, but anything.

635
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Speaker 8: Always don't come and nothing ever comes to fruitionial Look.

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Speaker 1: And if we saw some changes to the mining royalties,

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Speaker 1: that we see more in terms of mining projects get

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Speaker 1: off the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do that the current system of a hybrid

640
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Speaker 4: mining royalty, some avalorrem and some based on profit is

641
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Speaker 4: a disincentive to the industry to come and explore geologically. Yes,

642
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: we're blessed with all sorts of minerals and lots of them,

643
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Speaker 4: and potentially there's more out there. We know that. You

644
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: know the geologists will tell you that every second day

645
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Speaker 4: if you give them the time. Very strong, but what

646
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Speaker 4: people need to look at it.

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Speaker 8: Sorry.

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Speaker 4: There is a Fraser Institute report that comes out every

649
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Speaker 4: year from Canada now the latest report which came out

650
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Speaker 4: about two months ago. From the last year. They survey

651
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Speaker 4: people all around the world what's the best place to go?

652
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Speaker 4: It's not US, it's West Let me finish, it's Western Australia.

653
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Speaker 4: And why is it West Australia. Not only are they

654
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Speaker 4: blessed geologically, they have a good structure when it comes

655
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Speaker 4: to their legislation center. You can get a mine up

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Speaker 4: and running from expiration to an operating mind within about

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Speaker 4: four years. In WA It'll take at least ten in

658
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Speaker 4: the Northern Techxture four years to approval in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 3: Which baseally got done within that time. So we do

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Speaker 3: have the Minerals Industry Development Task Force. We have got

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Speaker 3: some nation leading people in the mining sector. We've also

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Speaker 3: got Aboriginal representation to work with the land councils because

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Speaker 3: they'ren important part of development too.

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Speaker 5: We've got some West Australian senior bureaucrats.

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Speaker 3: There is too, because I've made it clear that my

666
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Speaker 3: vision is that we do have a really highly competitive.

667
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Speaker 5: In investment.

668
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: Investment framework and system when it comes to mining, and

669
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Speaker 3: I'm chasing down w A and so that task for

670
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Speaker 3: is coming rather its conclusion at the end of the day, just.

671
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Speaker 1: Before we move along on the on that topic though

672
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Speaker 1: that you know that I'd raised right at the star,

673
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Speaker 1: which is that cost of living. Are there different things

674
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: that we could be doing in the Northern Territory right

675
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: now to try to you know, to to lower the

676
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: cost of living for territorians or to at least you know,

677
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: what can be done in this space, do you think.

678
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 6: Well, I was a bit surprised when they released the

679
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 6: budget last month and there was nothing in there for

680
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 6: the cost of living, considering there was a lot of

681
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 6: talk at the time about how bad things were getting.

682
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: There was in fact, you know, some households were worse

683
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Speaker 6: off because they took away the solar tariff that that was.

684
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 6: It is a bit of a shock, it.

685
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: Is, and that was a shock to a lot of

686
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: households and they're still complaining to meet my office. But

687
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: there's some things that are just going to be out

688
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: of our control, Katie, out of the government's control. And

689
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: that's for example, the cost of steel, you know, that

690
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: is just out of our control. Probably as in Northern Territory.

691
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how much we'd like to have that

692
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: kind of product more reasonable. It's not and it's not

693
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: going to get reasonable anytime soon that I've read about

694
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: son what you're asking, but it's it's a it's a

695
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: tricky situation for me. It is there's the incentives I

696
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: think should be directed more at businesses, particularly small medium

697
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: sized businesses. I'm not sure what, but will hybrid rawty

698
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: for the expressions is there are lots of.

699
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 8: Leavers that can be pulled.

700
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Speaker 7: And in the fact that Nicole has paid off the

701
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 7: aple C recommendations to bring legislation into make fuel prices fair,

702
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's one thing, It's one tiny little thing

703
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 7: that you could do to actually make a big impact

704
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: on a lot of people, a lot of businesses, a

705
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 7: lot of territorians, whether you're in dahen or remotely. And

706
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 7: why wouldn't we look at that, Why wouldn't we just

707
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 7: go straight into Parliamentary Council and say let's make it happen.

708
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 7: And I know Leah during the week said that she

709
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 7: was putting out the call to labor to do that,

710
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 7: to beat her to the post. And that's exactly what

711
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 7: we're doing. We are finding ways so we can bring

712
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 7: the cost of living down.

713
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 6: For territory incentives of business. Though there is a problem

714
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 6: right now that a lot of businesses do want to

715
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: spend more, they do want to expand they can't find working.

716
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: It's still.

717
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: And there are work shortages.

718
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: I just want to trus is that the cost of

719
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: living pressures is always something that this government tackles.

720
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Speaker 5: We put in one hundred and twenty million dollars a

721
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: year to tackle the price of power.

722
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: We've got our back to school vouchers, we've got sports vouchers,

723
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: we've got one of the most generous seniors and concession

724
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: schemes in the nation.

725
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, we do speak, you know stuff back to school.

726
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, but honestly, you know, when it's costing your

727
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: bloody three hundred and fifty bucks a week to buy

728
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: your food, it's tough.

729
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: You know, like, no matter.

730
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 6: How I don't know how back to school.

731
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: If we took it away, imagine it does have a

732
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: got to be really careful, hey, that you don't sound

733
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: condescending to.

734
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Speaker 2: People out there listening that are really struggling. They're seriously struggling.

735
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 5: Completely get it.

736
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Speaker 3: We hear the stories about what people are paying in

737
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: rent and some of those rent hikes. You know, my

738
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: message to the landlords out there too would be, you know,

739
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: take care of good people that take care of your

740
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: property because you know you will get that return.

741
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Speaker 1: All right, it is twenty minutes away from ten o'clock.

742
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: We're going to take a very short break. You are

743
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: listening to Mix one oh four nine.

744
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: It is the week that was.

745
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: It is the week that was, and we are going

746
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more all about lots of

747
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: different things.

748
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: But I do want to just raise as well.

749
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: We know that the Prime Minister was obviously in town

750
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the week for one of those industries well

751
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: that is off the ground, the space industry. But he

752
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: also accused the Coalition of deliberately restricting the rights of

753
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: remote voters after voter turn out in an electro covering

754
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: some of the most disadvantage parts of Australia dropped to

755
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: a new low. So we know that the AEC figures

756
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: showed that just two out of three people in the

757
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: set of Lingiari, which as we know blankets pretty much

758
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: everywhere aside from Darwin cast at the federal election. So

759
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: Albow labeled the figure and outrage and blamed it directly

760
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: on cuts to commission resources under the former coalition government.

761
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I don't know exactly what's

762
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: happened to you.

763
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Speaker 6: I know you're going to disagree with me, but well

764
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 6: there was there was someone who was talking to me

765
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Speaker 6: that previously the AEC had like twelve people stationed in

766
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 6: dohin full time who worked up, they did vote and

767
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 6: the office was cut down. Now that probably has had

768
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Speaker 6: a huge impact because instead of being out there, but

769
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 6: instead of being out there for three years getting people

770
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 6: in the electoral role as they turn eighteen or turn

771
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 6: sixteen when they can legally, and instead they're just doing

772
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Speaker 6: it in the lead up to the federal election, last

773
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Speaker 6: for a few months before.

774
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Speaker 4: So this is not excuse the pun, this is not

775
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: rocket science. We have this every anti election, every federal election.

776
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: The voter turnout and mostly in the rural seats a

777
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Speaker 4: remote and rule but not exclusively, and it's excuse and it'slingary,

778
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: which yes, and you know the voter turnout was not

779
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: as good as what they wanted, But you have to

780
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Speaker 4: look at underlying causes and underlying reasons. I just look

781
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: at what I for example, that had massive upheaval. A

782
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 4: lot of people had gone bush, gone to homelands, whatever

783
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: in their family with them, so that vote was probably down,

784
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, yun the mood might have been down because

785
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: of the historical aspects associated with that community. So I

786
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: don't think we should lay the blame at the Astralian

787
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: Electoral Commission office at all. I think we have to

788
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: look at it more carefully as to the contributing factors

789
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: as to why the voter turnout was like even Sulon apparently,

790
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 4: you know, which is all urban white sort of people voting.

791
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: So let's look at what people are voting. Is there

792
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: disenchantment with the voting system. We know there's disenchantment with

793
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: the two major parties indicated on what happened down South.

794
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: So I don't think I agree that it should perhaps

795
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: be funded better the Electoral Commission, as perhaps the Northern

796
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: Territory Election Commission should be funded more appropriately. But but

797
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: I don't think it was fair. I mean, it was

798
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 4: a cheap political shot by alban easy and that's that's

799
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: part of his job. But I think we should look

800
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Speaker 4: at more seriously if want to really engage with people

801
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: and getting them to vote, you know, because after all,

802
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: that's fundamental to our Democrats.

803
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: So what I would say is that I think the

804
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: Prime Minister was correct that we do not put enough

805
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: resources into the Northern Territory when it comes to enrolling

806
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: people and helping people get out to vote and giving

807
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: them the time to be able to vote. If you

808
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: have a look at the example of the daily by

809
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: election a time where they opened up, so what one

810
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: of the.

811
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: Biggest local one of the biggest remote communities we have

812
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 5: in the Northern Territory.

813
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: Rather than cruising in there and doing a couple of

814
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 3: hours polling, a one day of polling, they actually gave

815
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: them five days of polling. I think it was a

816
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: good voter. They had the best vote to turn out.

817
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: You know, why should Aboriginal people in remote communities sometimes

818
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: the size some of the biggest places that we've got

819
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory, we still treat them like a

820
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: small remote can unity and we don't give people enough

821
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: of a chance to go vote.

822
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: And when you're Managretera and what air and places like that.

823
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: The the the new Prime Minister, I'm hoping we'll go

824
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: have a serious look at the AEC will look to

825
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: return resources to the Northern Territory to.

826
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: Help more Aboriginal people have a voice.

827
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: Who actually wonder though whether it comes down to people

828
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: not rocking up to vote because they sort of go.

829
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't really know that either of these people underestimate.

830
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: You can the.

831
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: City can underestimate the work that the AEC does when

832
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: it comes to enrollment, education, but most importantly opening the

833
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: bloody boost to give people a chance.

834
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: To turn up to voteating that didn't happen. Think it

835
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: is equitable out in.

836
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: In the remote communities, and I think that, you know,

837
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: if the federal government is fair thinking about having a

838
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: look at how they engage Aboriginal people in the Australian democracy.

839
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 5: There needs to be more time looked.

840
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 10: At this issue, more resources to go to have spent

841
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 10: more time in what at the last schedule election, if

842
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 10: there wasn't thirty seven houses destroyed and the whole town

843
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 10: rioting as well.

844
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 6: Though that's we just.

845
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 7: Said that what Air is one of the biggest communities

846
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 7: we have, So that's the example we use.

847
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: The really interested as well though, look houses safe.

848
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 8: For the ac to go out there, so you're.

849
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: Really taking a cheap political shot here, Al.

850
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Speaker 1: I'd be interested to find out then how we go

851
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: in some of our other remote indigenous communities around the nation,

852
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: because let's be honest, we're not the only place in

853
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: the that's exactly right. It is a massive one, yeah,

854
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: but I'd be interested to see how it was like

855
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: in the lights of North Queensland and some of those

856
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, some of those areas in wa as well,

857
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: whether they have the same volume of resources thrown.

858
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: At them or at The other aspect is the early voting,

859
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: like I think the booths are opened two weeks before

860
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: the actual voting day. I mean, we know that's proven

861
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: to be really successful and for a variety of reasons.

862
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: And I think it's because just they want to vote,

863
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: or they believe they have to vote one or the other,

864
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: and they don't want to do it on the particular day.

865
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: Some people embrace all that sort of high drama loco

866
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: on the next day sometimes, but they still want to vote,

867
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 4: and they still believe that that's one of their basic

868
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: human rights. I think vote in this country. So I

869
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: think it's it's a whole lot of things are changing

870
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: in our landscape when it comes to voting and parties.

871
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: So yes, resourting, yes, more education, yes, better education, et cetera.

872
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: Perhaps perhaps they need to be opened longer, whatever, But

873
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that. Yeah, I think that the calling

874
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: it was Morrison's fault because he didn't resource the office

875
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: was just it was just flippant, you know, and it

876
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: doesn't help anyone. And like you said, we haven't said

877
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 4: it just there. If you're going to be serious about

878
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: trying to engage with people in the bush wherever they are,

879
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: and don't forget all our soldiers and sailors and air

880
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: and air ladies over in various places of the country,

881
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: make sure their vote gets in. Because one of the

882
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: federal elections, maybe the last one of the one before that,

883
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: most didn't even get counted properly in time.

884
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 8: And sometimes I don't get counted from the hospitals either.

885
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well hospitals jail. So it looks they really need.

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Speaker 8: To have a good Sita.

887
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Speaker 2: You can't blame We'll have a very short break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine's

889
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Speaker 1: three sixty. It is the week that was and before

890
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Speaker 1: we wrap up for the morning, I do want to

891
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: have a bit of a discussion about a topic that

892
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: was raised yesterday by a number of our listeners, and

893
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: it is actually parking out at the hospital now, not

894
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: just at Royal Darwin Hospital but also at the private

895
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Speaker 1: hospital as well, and the concerns that people who are

896
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: quite well going out there, obviously needing to get out

897
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: there for appointments, not.

898
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Speaker 2: Being able to get a car park.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know, you know, what the solution is,

900
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: aside from constructing another car park or or you know,

901
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: doing something when it comes to parking.

902
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: But it's tough for people.

903
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: No one goes there for fun, do they unless having

904
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Speaker 1: a baby, and even that's not that fun, you know.

905
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: Memory so stop it. You really feel for people, especially

906
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Speaker 3: if you're a bit stressed and someone's going through a

907
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: tough time in hospital. That's why we went about building

908
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: the new multi story free car park at the hospital there.

909
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Speaker 3: Prior to that, we'd seen the former CLP government tried

910
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: to introduce a disastrous paid parking.

911
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: Scheme and that was we went in and we sorted

912
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Speaker 5: it out.

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Speaker 3: We built the multi story car park, but we get

914
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Speaker 3: it if there are further issues.

915
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Speaker 5: We've got master play that happens the private hospital.

916
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Speaker 3: I've got to say it's always a real challenge to

917
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Speaker 3: find a car park there if you're not there at

918
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Speaker 3: the very start of the day or late in the afternoon,

919
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Speaker 3: it is challenging.

920
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: So is there capacity for there to be further like

921
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: another car park out there.

922
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Speaker 3: So I haven't got the details of the master plan,

923
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Speaker 3: but I know our Chief Minister, who is the most

924
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Speaker 3: passionate health minister you'll ever come across, has been doing

925
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Speaker 3: a lot of master planning work out there. That car

926
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Speaker 3: park that we built, the multi story made a big

927
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Speaker 3: impact that I think we've completed that about four years ago,

928
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Speaker 3: if my memory serves me right.

929
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Speaker 5: It's been serving the community world.

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Speaker 3: But clearly the private hospital still has a lot of

931
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: parking pressures there and something further conversation.

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Speaker 1: Spoke to one of our listeners yesterday. I think it

933
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Speaker 1: was Andrea who was in a situation. You know, she's

934
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: out there for cancer treatment and ended up having a

935
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Speaker 1: park sort of five hundred meters away and not everybody.

936
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Speaker 1: You know, we all probably understand in this room if

937
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: you have had a loved one who's gone through that

938
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Speaker 1: cancer journey that in some cases you can't drive them

939
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: out there when they've got appointments. Sometimes there's four appointments

940
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: a week, and you know, if you're juggling a full

941
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: time job, you can't actually take that loved one to

942
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: their appointments each and every time, so they're trying to

943
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: transport themselves, which then if you're having to walk that distance,

944
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: it can actually have such a monumental impact on you,

945
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: not just for the day, but it can send.

946
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Speaker 2: You into a pain crisis if you're not careful physically.

947
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: And I think the question has to be asked is

948
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Speaker 4: why do we have so many cars at the hospital,

949
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Speaker 4: which means we've got a lot of unwell people and

950
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: or we've got a lot of waiting, a lot of

951
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: people waiting for treatment well whatever it may be. And

952
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 4: don't forget there's the main X ray clinic or whatever

953
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: you call it. At the private hospital. A lot of

954
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: people go to the specialist clinics. So we obviously got

955
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: a lot of it's a healthcare issue rather than a

956
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: parking issue. But clearly that parking has to be sorted

957
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 4: out because or some access you know, some shuttle bus

958
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: that can move people around.

959
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 6: To say could get creative and do a shuttle bus

960
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 6: for patients just parking. But you know a shuttle bus

961
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 6: with six people inside it that takes six cars out of.

962
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 7: The clubs, right, and when people when people their staff

963
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 7: shortages out there and those different bed blockages, I mean

964
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 7: that delays appointments as well. So cars are in those

965
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 7: car parks for a lot longer as well than they

966
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 7: need to be. But I do want to say, Katie,

967
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 7: and this isn't going to help everybody, but out at Palmerston,

968
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Speaker 7: the Parmesanowichfield Seniors.

969
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 8: Club, they actually have a driver program which.

970
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 7: I run through my office, so people can join that

971
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 7: club and then they can get transport to and from appointments,

972
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 7: so like either at the hospital or elsewhere for a

973
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 7: very small costs like it's it's minimal can compared to what.

974
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Speaker 8: A public trend.

975
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 7: Someone takes them in, they take them in and they

976
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 7: bring them back again, they wait around for them. It's

977
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: a really great service and it doesn't get used a

978
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 7: lot because it's probably not widely known. And of course

979
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 7: there are volunteers that do the driving, and so we're

980
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 7: always looking for other volunteers to assist people. But it

981
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 7: is a bit like what Tom said, there are other

982
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 7: solutions like a shuttle bus or something else, and it

983
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 7: just needs to be investigated.

984
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 4: To talk to you late about that.

985
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, it a little program people.

986
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: I remember one couple have to catch buses in it

987
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: to go to the hospital for various treatment or appointments.

988
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: It was a whole day by the time they left.

989
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: Time at HUMPT you do buses, interchange so transports.

990
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it just feels it feels to me like

991
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: it's something that we can try to really sort out

992
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: as a community, you know, I know that, Like I

993
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: know that sometimes when it comes to those longer term

994
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: planning for car parks and things like that, that is

995
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: something that we want to see in the long run.

996
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: But are are there other things that can be done.

997
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: In the short term, because fundamentally, yeah, and fundamentally, none

998
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: of us want to see a situation where you've got

999
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: territorians who are unwell, who was sick, who are going

1000
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: through treatment, having to battle something that seems like such

1001
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: a bloody small thing that you know, I hopefully you

1002
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: can get sorted.

1003
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: And let's be clear, no matter where you are in

1004
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: the nation, including the territory, the biggest area of growth

1005
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: that every government is health his health. Health expenditure grows

1006
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: at a far larger rate than anything else, and it's

1007
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: going to continue to.

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00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: I've got a message from our old mate, Jerry Wood.

1009
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: Jerry said, is the high rise car park used by

1010
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: stuff because it is nearly always full?

1011
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: Well, I had a relative I used to work at

1012
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: the IDH and she used to ride her bike every

1013
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: day because she could find a park. So I don't

1014
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 6: even think stuff can find a park.

1015
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's it. And it's hard for them too.

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00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: If you're doing a night shift and then if you're

1017
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: trying to walk back to your car, it can get Yeah, she.

1018
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: Did ride home back to I think it was nightcliff

1019
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 6: at this time in the darks.

1020
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.

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00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: Apart from health being an you never can really budget

1022
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: for it accurately. Is we have an aging population. We

1023
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: know that in territory, so government and private hospital industry

1024
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: will call it. So government industry has to work smarter

1025
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 4: because we're going to have more old people and when

1026
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: with age you get ailments. You know, that's just the

1027
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: fact of life. So this issue is not going to

1028
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: go away. So it has to be addressed now because

1029
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: another ten years I reckon we'd still be discussing the

1030
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: problem with parking at hospitals.

1031
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: Well that is it for us this morning.

1032
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Speaker 1: For the week that was, Mary Claire Boothby, always great

1033
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: to have you in the studio, Thanks so much for

1034
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: your time.

1035
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 7: Thanks Katie, and can I just give a quick shout

1036
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 7: out because the Parmesan Golf Club are hosting variety and

1037
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 7: tea on Sunday from sometime.

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00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 8: It's a family fun day, so get out there and

1039
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 8: have a.

1040
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Little fantastic stuff. Tom Morgan from the NT and News,

1041
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: thank you for your time this morning.

1042
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 6: Thanks Katie, and can I give a shout out to

1043
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 6: my mum who's listening.

1044
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: All the way from Tom's mom.

1045
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: We'll have to get it so yeah, absolutely easier.

1046
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to one of your favorite fans out

1047
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: there and have.

1048
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 5: To do Beryl.

1049
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: Hello, what a great name.

1050
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: That was my nana's name, the go Berrel it was

1051
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: her nana's name.

1052
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Beautifulk you Nicole Madison, thank you.

1053
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: Have a lovely weekend everyone.

1054
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: You too well. Still plenty more coming your.

1055
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Speaker 1: Way this morning after ten o'clock you

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Speaker 2: Are listening to Mix one O four nine