1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now on Friday, you'll recall we caught up with a 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Cyclone Tracy survivor and admin from the Cyclone Tracy Survivors Group, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Robin Cooper rad King. Now Robin joins me on the 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: line again this morning. Good morning to you, Robin. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you today? 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: Not too bad now, Robin? How are you? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: And what's been the reaction from the Cyclone Tracy Survivors 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Group Following on from the interview on the show yesterday 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: with the Lord Mayor convat Scalas. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: Okay, well, as you can imagine, Steady rolled up yesterday, 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: as was everybody. Look, I don't any have words to 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: describe what he said. You know, it was basically a 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: personal attack on any Scotland Tracy survivor the way he spoke, 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: just with fact, you name it. There's been a lot 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: of comic tree since, but it's very mindful commic tree. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: It's not the log a tree. People are very upset 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: where now no people who were planning to come back 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: and out stating that they don't want to come back 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: for the fifty years. So this is having a major 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: whipple effect. I personally felt very attacked by his response 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: yesterday and I'd just like to clear up one allegation, 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: did they, which was being him being targeted personally on 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: social media. I very heavily moderated all posts and comments 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: within such fun Tracy Survivors, and he was not in 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: any way shaff for personally attacked. There was another Facebook page, 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: so I read those comments were pretty bad, but not 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: within sight front Tracy Survivors. Everybody has teps of pretty 28 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, mindfully polite, and. 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: From my understanding, you guys try to keep that group 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: to Tracy Survivors as well. 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Even myself. 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I'd thought, oh, I might try and join so I 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: can get a better understanding of how you guys are feeling, 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: But you know, respectfully so, and I'm totally fine with it. 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: You actually do really try to keep it just to 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: cyclone Tracy Survivors, which I think is absolutely fair enough 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: that you guys are able to get on there and 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: share your experiences in what you feel is a safe place. 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very important and a lot to Godfrey who 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: originally started this group, as he explained in the lead 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: up to the fiftieth we've now got a lot of 42 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: other people that are very interested in the group being 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: they may have served in the forces, they helped with 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: the Builder rebuilt. Sorry, so you know we've allowed those 45 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: to now come in. And also we've got families of 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: survivors who have since passed away. They want to come 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: in and learn more about it. 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Robin, he was, Yeah, but you go. 49 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: I know that he was removed from my group, Yester. 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: I removed him purely for the sense that I did 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: not want any further allegations being brought against Cyproon Tracy survivors. 52 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair enough. I think that's fair enough. 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Now, Robin, tell me in terms of you know, what 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: he had said about the Connecticut work at Bundela Beach 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: not being linked to Cyclone Tracy. We've received quite a 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: bit of feedback from this. We've been sent by numerous 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Cyclone Tracy survivors the press release that have gone out 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: from the Prime Minister's office earlier this year in conjunction 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: with the Chief Minister, Eva Lawler. 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: A lot of people just not buying that at this point. 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: No, and after he spoke yesterday, he has obviously clearly 62 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: removed himself from any link on Tracy. It doesn't resonated 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: in any way shape or form now was startling Tracy, 64 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: as he has explained, so a lot of people are 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: now questioning as to what He's or balancity councils received 66 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: single grant foots. 67 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Robin, I reckon probably, and correct me if I'm wrong, 68 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: But I feel like probably the biggest question being asked 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: now by survivors, by all territory ends who actually really 70 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: respectfully want to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary this year, where 71 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: to from here? 72 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: How can we find a common ground? 73 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that that money that's been earmarked for 74 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Bundela Beach for the public artwork realistically needs to be 75 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: invested in the memorial at East Point? 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I do, and I'll give it an examples. One 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: person commented yesterday, if the funding was available, each point 78 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: could look at planting sixty six trees because the actual 79 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: official death toll of sixty six or seventy one, right, 80 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: sixty six trees would be planned it up therefore you 81 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: remember it, so it would be beautiful. So yeah, I 82 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: think nobody's going to associate until the beach with such 83 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: on Tracy. Now it's pretty tarnished, and all survivors, people 84 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 2: who are involved with Tracy help us rebuild the Australian public. 85 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: There's a nice place to be able to go and remember, 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: and it needs to said the other day needs to 87 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: be peaceful, tranquil, someone where we can collaborate and we 88 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: can gory the least point would be perfect. 89 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Look, I really hope that you know that the Council 90 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: is listening. I hope that the government's listening because from 91 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: what I read from that pressure base as well is 92 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that this is federal funding. It's then been passed on 93 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: to the Northern Territory government to administer. So I think 94 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: that the reality of this is that you know, surely 95 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: there's some common sense that can be found. 96 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: I was acting the other date. One of my favorite 97 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: things is common sense doesn't row in the garden, but 98 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: it's out there now. It's a problem that's not going 99 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: to go away. And look, if I make a mistake 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: in my life, I'll stand up in the mid it. 101 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: I'll own it, and then I will rectify. I'll fix it. 102 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: You know. But Kelener listened to the man yesterday, be 103 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: little and come up. What he said was just a farsticle. 104 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, Robin, look, I appreciate you having another chat with 105 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: us this morning. 106 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: We are going to catch up. 107 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: With another cyclone Tracy survivor in just a moment as well. 108 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Please keep me up to date, keep me in the 109 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: loop with what he going on, and and I appreciate 110 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: your time this morning. 111 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: No worries, Katie, thanks to meat Day. 112 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: Any time here. Well, well, it's beautiful weather here at 113 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: the moment. We've got some glorious weather today, Robin. 114 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh, well, I've been looking forward to that in December, 115 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: but raying the sun's just come out. Oh good, good, good. 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: I hope it is a good sign. Robin. Thank you. 117 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: Good to talk to you. I appreciate it. Thanks so much.