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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the twentieth of July. I'm Sam Kazlowski, I'm Zara Saidler.

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Speaker 2: Today is the day. The FIFA Women's World Cup is

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Speaker 3: If we win the World Cup, that would just be everything.

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Speaker 2: The question is will they be paid fairly to do so?

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Speaker 1: Players from host country Australia have released a video demanding

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you what you need to know

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Speaker 2: to fully engage with the Women's World Cup in today's

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Speaker 2: deep dive. But first, Hora, another country has thrown their

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Speaker 4: Yes, Scotland has put its hand up as a possible

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Speaker 4: Humsi USAF confirmed he asks his team to explore the

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Speaker 4: That of course, comes after Victoria pulled out of hosting

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Speaker 4: due to concerns around budget constraints. If you want to

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Speaker 2: A federal parliamentary inquiry will investigate insurer's response to the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two floods. Flooding in southeast Queensland and New

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Speaker 2: The inquiry will investigate the preparedness of insurers to respond

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Speaker 4: Singaporeans have the best passport in the world. That is,

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Speaker 2: And today's good news. We're going to get into this

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Speaker 2: point four million tickets across games in host countries Australia

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Speaker 2: and New Zealand. As we all know, the tournament gets

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Speaker 2: underway tonight, Zara, fast forward to tonight and I will

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Speaker 4: I feel like you've been waiting years for this. Tampen.

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Speaker 4: Every time that we are like strategically planning ahead in

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Speaker 2: Here we are. It's going to be the moment of

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Speaker 4: I think that it is very clear that this is

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Speaker 2: Well, why don't we start with a bit of the

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Speaker 2: history of the tournament. This is the ninth Women's World Cup. Ninth, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that was sixty one years after the first Men's

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Speaker 2: And ticket sales have been insane. More than a million

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Speaker 4: And if they do, Sam, we might get a public holiday.

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Speaker 4: I feel like any discussion about women's sport is inevitably

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven was the first World Cup I

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Speaker 3: Now we're treated as serious professionals with fairness and respect

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Speaker 2: The overall prize pool for the twenty twenty three Women's

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