1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, welcome back. I am 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: so excited because tonight we are finally having a long 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: overdue girls night and it's a chance for us to 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: eat whatever we want to eat binge on YouTube videos, 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and also to start entering some of the fast food competitions. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm super excited because I've already decided I'm getting myself 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Nutchos and hot Chips. There was debate about whether we 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: should go and get Hungry Jacks because they're doing that 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: UNO competition. It's so funny because I actually really don't 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: like Hungry Jacks. McDonald's is my choice, like my preferred choice. 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: But every Friday night, Brandon's like, oh, let's go to 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Hungry Jack because they've got that UNO competition on. And 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: we got it the other night and it was a 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: very subpart meal, but anyway, we got it the other night, 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: and it's not as much fun as the McDonald's monopoly, 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: because you know how you pick off a few of 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: the different tokens, this one you just pull off the 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: whole lot and it's just over, like there's no anticipation. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about the Zambreros one million dollar burrito, 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: because I have probably entered that i'd say six times already, 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and it's sort of like it's a digital thing. So 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: you scan the code and it comes up with a 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: digital scratchy and there's just I don't know, I'd prefer 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: an actual scratchy. Well, the other night, I won free guacamole, 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: and I was a bit disappointed. I was like, really, 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I get this anyway with my vegetarian Zumbreros yea about 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: being said, it does actually entice me to go and 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: buy their stuff. Though. It's funny because when all the 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: competitions come out, I'm like, surely people aren't going to 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: get sacked into it. And every year Kate, Sophie and 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: I and our cousins we get sucked right into the 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: McDonald's monopoly. Well, it's always around summertime when you're kind 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: of thinking, oh yeah, I want to, you know, be 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: before summer, so right before summer. And it's so funny 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: because we have been known in the final weeks of 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: the monopoly competition to actually dine in. So we will 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: dine in and we'll have a few different meals and 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: you feel like this absolute king sitting there with all 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: of your tickets. But we have never won anything from 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: there except you know, the food prizes. It's really funny 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: because I was watching Anastasia kings North YouTube this week 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: and she did that old craze where you order what 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: the other person has in front of you, or you 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: get what they've ordered, and she went to mc donald's, 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: she went to KFC, she went to Crispy Kreme, and 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: it was really funny because it was quite reminiscent of 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: when you do order up big during the mac Donald's 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: monopoly because at the start, you know, you're all giggly 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: and laughing. By the end you're just like I cannot 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, just absolutely filled with regret. You feel ill. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: And it was so funny. Their faces went so greasy 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: from eating so much fast food. The girl who just 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: boys sings like she's on top of things, that girl 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: who just like walks into the. 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Room and you're just like, she's that girl's going for today? 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, do you guys know that girl who always seems 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: to have her life together on Instagram? I think I 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of people who pretend to 64 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: have their life together on Instagram, specifically influences. Yeah, well 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: there's a name for that person. It's that girl. So 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: for the last couple of months, TikTok videos about people 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: who aspire to be that girl have been popping up. 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: So what is it exactly that makes you that girl? 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: Because I haven't seen any of this on TikTok Okay, Well, 70 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: that girl is the girl who does all of those 71 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: things that we know that we're supposed to do but don't. 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of jealousy built into the 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: term of that girl. So you basically want to be her, 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and you know you should be more like her, But really, 75 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: who actually has the time to be doing all of 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: those things? So is it kind of like a bitchy job, 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: like I'm being that girl? Or is it kind of 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: like a goal? No, it's like an aspirational that girl. Yeah, 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: it's like a glow up And it's also about romanticizing 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: mundane things you do, like making a coffee or exercising 81 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: or watering the plants. So okay, So basically, that girl 82 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: gets up early, She makes her bed, works out, has 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: a bowl of fruit all before you've even woken up. 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: So that gat that girl. That girl is not me. 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: She also fills out gratitude journals, reads every day, studies hard, 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: and you better believe she's manifesting stuff. I feel like 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: she's literally a walking Pinterest board. I feel like that's 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: that good to be fair, Like everybody wants to be 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: that girl, don't you? Like I always when I get up, 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I regret that I haven't gone to the gym or 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: gone for a walk. You look at that girl's Instagram 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: account and she's been up for like three hours before 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: you Oh my god. Does anyone do that in the 94 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: morning where they wake up and they look it on 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: their Instagram story and you're like, this person has had 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: a whole life before I've even gotten up. I know 97 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: that is literally Brandon's sister because she runs either five 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: or ten k's every day and I'm literally crawling out 99 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: of bed, you know, three hours before she's completed it. 100 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: I mean after yeah, three hours after so three hours 101 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: after and you're just like that girl. What's funny is 102 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: this trend is kind of like the wellness version of 103 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: hot Girl Summer. So the difference is that you're not 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: getting drunk and living your best single life. You're essentially 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: being self fulfilled and achieving your goals. So it is basically, 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: as you said, the opposite of a hot girl summer, 107 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: because when you're in doing a hot girl summer, you 108 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: are not writing your journal? Are you you were? You were? 109 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: You're not getting up at bloody at five am. This 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: is the really fucked thing because I feel like when 111 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: we were twenty one, no one did any of these things, 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Like no one wrote in a gratitude journal, Like we'd 113 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: be laughing at someone for doing that. You were just 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: literally staying up late, rolling out of bed, finishing off 115 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: your UNI work. Yeah. Well, do you guys want to 116 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: know how to become that girl because some TikTokers have 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: provided some tips. Well, I actually do. I actually would 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: like to become that girl. Because so if you're saying 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: about back in the day that no one would do that, 120 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: I actually would like to do that. I feel like 121 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: people have their shit together when they are manifesting when 122 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: they are writing their goal. Well you personally, I don't 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: want to be that girl. I think that girl is 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: a fake girl. Sorry, I've already got my own board, 125 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: my manifestation board I did. I did draw a on 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: it that I wanted. Unfortunately we missed out on that house. 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: So maybe you need to invest some more time. And 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm currently manifesting one of those home lottery houses that's 129 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: at Brighton on the Esplanade at the moment. But I'd 130 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: let you know how I go with that one. Well, 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: let's see how many boxes you tick for that girl. 132 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: So basically, if you're that girl, you go on a 133 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: walk every day. We do that, Amy, We did that. 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: You also eat more fruit and veg. I have an 135 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: apple a day with more fruit and veg than what 136 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: like the average person. Yeah, we just says eat more. 137 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: You've got to eat more fruit and veg to be 138 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: really essentially, you have to find a signature scent. Mo. Yeah, 139 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: does that mean like with candles or is that your 140 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: own person? So my signature scent back in the day 141 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: would have been with love from Hillary Deeth So I 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like that's a lot of our listener's signature centers. Well, 143 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: how can you tell what someone's signature scent is online? 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just something wanky. I feel like 145 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: they tell you about what it is. All right, let's 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: get through a few more of it. Sorry, just on 147 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the signature scent? Did do you guys? Notice that back 148 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: in the day, it used to be a thing for 149 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: influences to show up how many bottles they had, and 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: that'd be like all in a row on their on 151 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: their bathroom counter. Okay, I'll quickly list a few more. 152 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: So you've got to find your music, taste, cut or 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: dye your hair. Try even harder in class. Go on 154 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Pinterest and fire and close you Like, I find that 155 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: interesting because I've been trying to do that. So I 156 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: don't buy a crap really on Pinterests. Yeah, I go 157 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: have a look at like what's in fashion? I mean 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I did. This was a while ago, and I didn't 159 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: buy anything. I didn't even if that was a thing. Yeah, 160 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: save your money up to buy your dream wardrobe. If 161 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: someone is hurting you, leave them. Read more books. God, 162 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that at all. Make a sad playlist 163 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: so you're prepared for anything. So you have to be 164 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: so organized that you've got your sad songs filed. Be 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: nice to everyone, buy a bikini, leave a toxic relationship, 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: stop eating junk food, be direct, never desperate. That's an 167 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: interesting one. Actually heard about women desperate? Yeah, I actually 168 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: heard Alex Cooper from Call Her Daddy talking about this, 169 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: But we're going to go into that a little bit later. 170 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: Stay out of drama, compliment other girls, forget about boys, 171 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: you don't need them. Led lights are the best for 172 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: your room. So I'm guessing that girl is somebody in 173 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: the early twenties. I don't think it's aimed at the 174 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: early thirties market. No, definitely not. Well jokes aside, there 175 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: is a bit of a problematic side to that girl 176 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: trend because when you flick through TikTok, it becomes quite 177 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: apparent that to be that girl you have to be white, 178 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: thin and able bodied. So what if you don't look 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: like that trend because a lot of people are like No, 180 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: I find it so motivating, but I feel like it 181 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: would be very upsetting because there's some people that a 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: lot will not some a lot of people that don't 183 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: fit that moch but all the things that they're saying, 184 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: lots of people can be that way that's gone a wook. 185 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Every day you can do the things, but the way 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: it's being presented online is that you have to do 187 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: those things, but they have to be esthetic whilst that 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: you're doing and not to look a certain way. But 189 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: what I also don't like is I feel like we're 190 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: trying to move away of this perfection thing on Instagram 191 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: where everyone's fake about their lives, but I feel like 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: this just perpetuates it further. It really does. Can you 193 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: imagine if there was a that boy thing? Oh my god, 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: oh this that boy he writes in a gratitude journal 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: and that boy he eats more fruit in bevet? Can 196 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: you actually imagine boys buying into that? But the thing is, 197 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: I get that it's promoting something like a healthy thing 198 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and it's motivating, but I find that quite like, I mean, 199 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: what if I'm not like that and I don't enjoy 200 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: doing that thing, because that mean I'm not going to 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: have a great, successful life. There's probably a lot of 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: people who are posting that girl content as a bit 203 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: of a joke online, but if you look at it, 204 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: it does actually make people feel like shit if you're 205 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: not that girl. Because there's the online it's kind of saying, well, 206 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: if you're that girl, you're amazing. You've got your life 207 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: in check, and a lot of people don't like doing 208 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. As you just said, it's kind of like 209 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: tricking people that you've got your life in check and 210 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: you're having to document and prove to everyone. It's kind 211 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: of like that term hustle pawn that's been thrown around 212 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: at the moment, because a lot of people are trying 213 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: to prove to everyone that they've accomplished everything, that their 214 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: life is so perfect. What I found quite funny is 215 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: I only came across that girl trend because Sophie Jane Miller, 216 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: one of my favorite YouTubers. She was doing a video 217 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: trying to be that girl. But for me, I've watched 218 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: her videos in the past and I already thought she 219 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: was that girl. So I found it quite ironic that 220 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: she was trying to be that girl. Yeah, because the 221 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: people who are actually that girl don't even realize they 222 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: are that girl. In our Facebook community, let's make a 223 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: trend that other girl, and they're in all things that 224 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: normal people do or you know, you're regular Joe, Okay, 225 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: what's one of the things. So what's on the top 226 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: of your head to be that other girl, staying up late, 227 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: scrolling in your phone all night and then getting up 228 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: a little bit late in the morning and rushing to work, 229 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: not packing your lunch and buying lunch every day, having greasy, 230 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: dirty hair. I suppose maybe exercising in like unesthetic active way. 231 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, just what about not exercising at all? Daddy, 232 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: goog it is your founding father. Cut it on. Alex 233 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Cooper has become one of the highest earning podcasters in 234 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: the world after signing a reported sixty million dollar deal 235 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: with Spotify. The host of popular American podcasts Call Her 236 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Daddy announced the deal via her Instagram, which will see 237 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: the show air exclusively on Spotify from July twenty first. 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: The three year deal is a huge win for Spotify, 239 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: who has recently stamped its dominance on the market with 240 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: some big name signings. Amy. For those who don't know, 241 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: can you tell us about Alex Cooper and the show 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: Caller Daddy? Yeah? Well, Call Her Daddy is a sex 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: positive podcast which was created by best friends Alex Cooper 244 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: and Sophia Franklin. What's Really Crazy is just after one 245 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: month of doing the podcast Barstool Sports, which is, a 246 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: US digital media company, picked up the podcast, which is 247 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: really really rare, so Barstool were reportedly looking for a 248 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: female led podcast as the podcast they currently had were 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: all aimed at men and they wanted to get female 250 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: sponsorship on board. So it turned out to be an 251 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: amazing move on the behalf of Barstool because in the 252 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: span of just two months, the podcast quickly grew from 253 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: twelve thousand downloads to two million. So the reason Call 254 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: Her Daddy is so popular with fans is because the 255 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: show literally doesn't hold back. Arguably, the most famous episode 256 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: of the show is called the Gluck Gluck nine thousand, 257 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: which is basically a step by step instructional guide by 258 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: Alex Cooper on how to give a good blow job. 259 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: When I first listened to Call Her Daddy, I was 260 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: so shocked and taken aback because I'd never heard anything 261 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: like it. But I feel like I'm really desensitized to 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: it now. Yeah, I remember the first episode I listened to, 263 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the girls were talking about that. Someone wrote in a 264 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: question saying, Hey, I've got an STD because I cheated 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: on my partner and I don't want him to know, 266 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: and their advice was, well, you should set up a 267 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: threesome and make the guy think that he's got the 268 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: STD from the other girl. I remember listening to this 269 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I've never heard 270 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: anything like this ever being discussed, and it's definitely not 271 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: a podcast that you'd want to recommend to your mum 272 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: to listen. So all the thing that's so great about 273 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: it is that it is so sex positive and it's 274 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: actually putting women at the forefront of that conversation. Well, 275 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what helped them grow such a loyal following, 276 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: and their listeners are of course dubbed the Daddy Gang. 277 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: But in April twenty twenty, the Daddy Gang were rocked 278 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: when it became clear there was a feud bubbling between 279 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Barstool and Alex and Sophia and this was all down 280 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: to contract negotiations. This was the first time I'd even 281 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: heard about the Caller Daddy podcast, and I think this 282 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: is what kind of really made it go even bigger 283 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: than it was before and international. Well, Sophia Franklin actually 284 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: said that in a recent interview. She said that call 285 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Her Daddy was big while the pair were recording, but 286 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: it blew up when this feud became public. So in 287 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, the women signed a contract which reportedly stated 288 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: that they each made seventy five thousand dollars annually as 289 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: a base salary, which would go up to one hundred 290 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars after three years, with additional compensation for downloads. 291 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: When you first hear seventy five thousand dollars as an 292 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: annual salary for a first time podcast, you're like, wow, 293 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: that's really good. But to put it into perspective, their 294 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: audience grew so much that the salary was far beneath 295 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: what they were actually giving to the network, And you 296 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: think about how much money they were drawing in through 297 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: all of that advertising exactly, Well, they actually discovered that 298 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: they were earning below the industry standard, and they had 299 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: become the laughing stock of the media and podcast world 300 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: in the US. So their initial attempts at renegotiating the 301 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: contract were first turned down by barstools Dave Portenoy, but 302 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: he later renegged and he offered the women a new deal. 303 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: He said they would be paid an annual salary of 304 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars plus bonuses, six months off their 305 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: initial three year contract, and the right for them to 306 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: reclaim the all important IP for Call Her Dad. Now, 307 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: that sounds like a pretty good deal. I think I'd 308 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: be signing up to that, Yeah, but I mean in 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: light of what Spotify is offering them five hundred thousand 310 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: dollars versus sixty million, it doesn't really seem like that 311 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: good of a deal. Well, I think you've hit the 312 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: nail on the head mentioning Spotify, because I think the 313 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: fact that Dave Portenoy said that they could have the 314 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: IP Call Her Daddy is the real lynchpin in all 315 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: of this. Well, that wasn't very smart of them to 316 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: then give it back to them, was it. Well, it 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: wasn't smart, but they knew that the girls could just 318 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: leave up and start their own podcast anyway. So sadly, 319 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Alex and Sophia had a falling out. So this all 320 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: happened because Alex was wanting to sign on to the 321 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: Barstool contract, but Sophia wasn't happy, and Alex described the 322 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: deal Sophia wanted to strike as insanity and explain she 323 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: wanted to renegotiate her own deal, which she did. So 324 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: it seems like Alex's decision to renegotiate stay with Barstool 325 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: for that extra year and then to own the IP 326 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: has really paid out. Well, it's been a massive payday 327 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: for her because she has earned herself sixty million dollars 328 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: on this three year deal. I mean, you would be 329 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: absolutely kicking yourself if you were Sophia turning down Barstool's offer, well, 330 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: particularly for the fact that they were allowing them to 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: get their IP back, because now Sophia has lost any 332 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: ownership of Call Her Daddy. So, so can you run 333 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: us through what the actual details are surrounding Alex's deal 334 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: with Spotify. Yeah, Well, Alex went into it on the 335 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: latest episode of Call Her Daddy, and she told listeners 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: that there was no feud or backstabbing with Barstool. She 337 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: said that they had allowed her for the past three 338 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: months to take meetings with heads of some of the 339 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: biggest podcast networks, So obviously Spotify and also other podcast 340 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: networks would have been really wanting to talk to Alex definitely. 341 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: So this exclusive deal between Spotify and Call Her Daddy 342 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: begins on July twenty first, meaning that you can only 343 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: listen to the show using the Spotify app. So Alex 344 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: announced it as part of this deal, she will also 345 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: be dropping two extra episodes a month and will be 346 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: launching a true crime style sex podcast as part of 347 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: the deal. And I one, I'm so excited to see 348 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: what this podcast is like. I think it's a really 349 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: clever move by Alex and Spotify, because we all know 350 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: how popular true crime podcasts are, but adding the sex 351 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: element as well, she's really diversifying her podcast. Yeah, she 352 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: is now. You can tell for quite at some time now, 353 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: she has been wanting to move away from purely talking 354 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: about sex. I mean, she's opened up about her mental 355 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: health on the podcast, and you can tell she was 356 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: a little bit nervous to do so because obviously she 357 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: doesn't know necessarily if people want to hear about her 358 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: life and different things like that. I only see they do. 359 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I Mean. The thing is as well, that Alex has 360 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: got a boyfriend recently, so the content that she's talking 361 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: about is very different to when she was single and 362 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: when Sophia was on the show. I mean, it was 363 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: a single father era when Alex was on the podcast. 364 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming this new era is the Spotify era. I 365 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: really appreciated when Alex spoke about the podcast meetings that 366 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: she had with Spotify and other big networks, and the 367 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: fact that she said she was the only woman in 368 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: the room and that she had all the power in 369 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: that situation, because it's a real stark difference to what 370 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: it was like for Alex when she first started out 371 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: in the podcasting world, because she shared that she had 372 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: actually partnered with Harvey Weinstein's right hand man to begin with. Yeah, 373 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: I was quite shocked about that. So she was talking 374 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: about how Harvey Weinstein's right hand man really wanted the 375 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: rights to her podcast initially when she was talking to Barstool, 376 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: and how he invited her to a meeting at his 377 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: office and she rocked up to the meeting and all 378 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: the lights were off in the room and he was 379 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: just standing there. Yeh. She said, how creepy he was. 380 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: And she only managed to get out of that situation 381 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: because another staff member managed to come back in and 382 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: she literally lashed onto them. Well, the other thing Alex 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that was quite I suppose it was a girl 384 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: power moment was she said that when all the news 385 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: came out about the Spotify deal, she called a publicist 386 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: to ask her to get all the publications to remove 387 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: the reference to her gender because all of the articles 388 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: were like female podcaster, female pot as if it was 389 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: just such a huge thing that a woman had achieved. 390 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: They were focusing on the fact that it was the 391 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: biggest deal for a female podcaster. But it's like, hang on, 392 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: this is the biggest deal for really any podcast other 393 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: than the Joe Rogan Show. Well, when Joe Rogan announced 394 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: he's one hundred million dollar deal with Spotify, we didn't 395 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: see male podcast at Joe Rogan, did we No, exactly, 396 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: you would never see that, as Alex said, that's not 397 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: something that they would ever write. Well, do you know 398 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: what's really interesting is Barstool's response, Because when I first 399 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: saw the press come out about the deal, I thought, oh, wow, 400 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: has Barstool got some kind of payment because I wasn't 401 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: actually aware that Alex owned one hundred percent of the IP. 402 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: But it appears that Barstool are actually quite happy about 403 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: the deal because the head of Barstool, he spoke on 404 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: his podcast, Dave Portenoy, and he said that they basically 405 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't have enough money to keep Alex, Like, they're really 406 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: happy that she's been able to get that money, but 407 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't offer her something like that, and they've actually 408 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: struck up a contract with her to still supply all 409 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: of the merchandise, so Barstool make a large amount of 410 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: money on their podcast merchandise. You think they're kicking themselves 411 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: that they didn't keep like ten percent of the IP. Yeah, 412 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: most likely, But I don't think they're going to be 413 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: losing out because, as I said, they're still making all 414 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the merchandise. So Dave actually said, I'm very happy with 415 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: the way it came out, and even going back, this 416 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: is the nature of the beast. You signed somebody who 417 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: is unknown, she explodes, It's no different from an athlete contract. 418 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: She was always going to make millions. She was that big. 419 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: She has Joe rogan X numbers. This time we're fair. 420 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: I get it, I understand the world. Again. I'm pretty 421 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: happy with how all this shook out, and we're going 422 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: to closely work with her on the merch and an 423 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: unnamed project that will hopefully be out in the next 424 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: year or two. Well, talking about someone that's probably not 425 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: so happy about this deal. We touched on it before, 426 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: but that of course would be Sophia Franklin, Alex Cooper's 427 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: former co host, who basically best friend. Yeah, who's basically 428 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: given up a thirty million dollars basically for not going 429 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: on with this barstool contract. So at the time of 430 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: recording the podcast, Sophia has yet to comment on the 431 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Spotify deal, but she recently was interviewed on a podcast 432 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: called No Jumper and said one year on the Caller 433 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: Daddy drama is still having an effect on her mental health. 434 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: She said, we were huge, but the drama just blew 435 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: it the fuck up in a way that I can't 436 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: even explain. It was wild. People love drama. They effing 437 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: love it. That is so true about the drama. As 438 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: we said before, I think it was all the publicity 439 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: around this feud that got a lot of people to 440 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: actually go and download Call Her Daddy. Because I know 441 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: I heard Mama Mia out loud talking about Call Her Daddy. 442 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what is this podcast? Can we somehow 443 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: have a feud and we kick like one of us 444 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: offer but like still keeping what we care. But Sophia 445 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: actually did also reveal in that podcast interview that she 446 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: is making significantly more money than she was while working 447 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: on Caller Daddy. I'm guessing it's not thirty million dollars. No, 448 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: it's not. But she's launched herwn media company called Salute Media, 449 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: and I think you guys can guess what slute means. 450 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: And she's now also got her own podcast called Sophia 451 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: with an F and I'd recommend people to go listen 452 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: to it because I listened to it. I think it's 453 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: the first or second episode talks about all the caller 454 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: daddy drama, and it is really interesting to hear her 455 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: side of the story because I think Alex really dominated 456 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: that conversation initially. To be fair, though, when I listened 457 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: back to when the pair were on together, I think 458 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Alex was definitely holding that show together and took it 459 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: more serious. Sophie was hilarious. Though I feel this, I wish, 460 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: I do actually wish that Spotify had a deal that 461 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: brought them back together. Well, they were so much better 462 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: together because they could really bounce off one another. I 463 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: mean I do, I mean, I do side with Alex, 464 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: but I think that's because I started listening after all 465 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: the drama and I did really only hear her side. Well, 466 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: we did obviously touch on the loser of this whole situation, 467 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: which is so fear, But what about the winner, because 468 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: I personally think this is a huge win for Spotify, 469 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: because it really means Spotify has staked its claim on 470 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the audio market, because we know last year they signed 471 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan for a one hundred million dollar deal. Now 472 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: they've got Caller Daddy. I'm assuming a lot of other 473 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: streaming services, like Apple, They're gonna be feeling quite threatened. 474 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I find it so interesting how the landscape of podcasting 475 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: is changing and so quickly. I mean, we saw Shameless 476 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: have launched their own exclusive podcast with Listener. Yeah, so 477 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: it's happening on a local front. It feels like podcasts 478 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: are now kind of turning into having their own like 479 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: streaming services like Netflix. You know, you've got to listen 480 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: to Spotify to have these podcasts and whatnot. It's interesting 481 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: because I saw people in the group talking about this 482 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: Spotify deal, and some people in the community were saying, oh, 483 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to it anymore because i 484 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: just want to have all my podcasts in one space. 485 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I'm totally different. Like I downloaded 486 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: BBC Sounds the other day to listen to Stacy Dooley's 487 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: podcasts and Jem mccollins. I don't even care how many 488 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: apps I've got on my phone. Do you know what. 489 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: I think there is a bit of a misconception with 490 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Spotify because I think a lot of people assume that 491 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you have to pay to listen to podcasts on there, 492 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: but it's completely free. You just have to make up 493 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: a username. I do think this massive deal with Spotify 494 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: will be a part of that education process that a 495 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of people realize, oh, Spotify is actually free. Yeah. Well, 496 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear Alex's new series of Caller Daddy, 497 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: and I'm also very much looking forward to this true 498 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: crime sex podcast dropping. 499 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm Britney Lee Saunders and I'm a YouTuber. 500 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Let's get into the influencer wrap and Britney Saunders announced 501 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story that her mum has been getting 502 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: into some candle making. Now. I feel like this is 503 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: a perfect lockdown activity that a lot of people would 504 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: have been doing, except she's not in lockdown, I know, 505 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of people got creative 506 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: in lockdown and it's kind of stretched out into normal 507 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: life now. So her mum's been making those really typical 508 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: bum and body candles that you've been seeing everyone on 509 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Instagram story, and they looked really cool. So Brittany told 510 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: her followers that she's going to start selling them at 511 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: her store Fate. So I thought that's really cute. However, 512 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: one of Britney's followers got disgruntled and accused Britney's mum 513 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: of copying other people's candles. So this is what Britney 514 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: Saunders had to say in response. 515 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: Had a girl get very upset, not very upset, but 516 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: a girl this message saying, your mum has just copied 517 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: other people that make candles, and people who make mattresses 518 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: copy other people. Nothing is original these days. I'm not saying, 519 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is my mum's invention. There's lots 520 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: of candle businesses out there, but it's just something fun 521 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: that we thought we would get my mum to do. 522 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: She can earn a little income and we can have 523 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: some cute candles in our store. Record, my mum did 524 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: not invent candle making. She's not the first person to 525 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: do candle mold making. I know it's not the first 526 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: of its kind. 527 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Just wanted to clarify that. 528 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Bloody hell. 529 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Brittany has a really valid point. I remember I went 530 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: on Ali barber a few months ago and the candle 531 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: mold started popping up for the bum candles and also 532 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the body shaped candles, and it blew my mind. I 533 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, this is why everybody's been making them. 534 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: It's so true that, like, who has ownership over that idea? 535 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: So many people are doing it. All candles look the same, 536 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: like if you've got you a glasshouse candle compared to 537 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: a target candle, Like, they pretty much look the same. 538 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: They look the same. Race is it they look the 539 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: same that they smell very different? Britney Saunders Mum's candles 540 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: might smell bloody amazing? Who knows? 541 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, Welcome back to another blog. 542 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: This week, Lily Brown has been teasing a new business 543 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: venture and it is something she has been working on 544 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: for over two years now. It's had to launch next month, 545 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: and I, for one, I'm really excited to finally see 546 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: what it is. She has revealed the new brand name. 547 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen it? Well, it's called Chill, but 548 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: it's got an E on the end, trying to be 549 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: a little bit French or fancy. I don't know. Is 550 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: this something to do with her chili tattoo on her arm? Well? 551 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: I originally thought it was called Chili, and I actually 552 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: liked the I like the brand name, Jill. It makes 553 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: me think if it's trying to be a bit fancy, 554 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: but it's called chill, that it's just sort of lounge wear. No, 555 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: do you know what it's They probably wanted to call 556 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: it chill, but that name was taken, so they've got 557 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: oh shit, let's just spell it a little bit to that. Well, 558 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: she's now started the brand's Instagram account and she has 559 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: featured it in her Instagram bio and the feed is 560 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: very much your stock standard Pinterest aesthetic. And I had 561 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: to look through because I really wanted to see if 562 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: there were any clues as to what this brand was 563 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: actually about. So there were lots of pictures of coffees 564 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: and bunches of flowers and sheets. But if you're actually cryptic, 565 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: so very cryptic. So if you look at the first 566 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: couple of photos though, it said hashtag sleep with Chill, 567 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, okay, obviously this is pajamas, 568 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: a loungewear or something. So we still don't know for sure, 569 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that's what it is. Can't you tell 570 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: by the name like chill Chill out, Netflix and chill. 571 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: But then but then okay, so she has actually I'm 572 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: so bamboozled, but it could be brain busted. So well, 573 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: then she has shared a couple of photos and of 574 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the shoot, and she showed a 575 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: photo of herself inactive wear. So that's where I'm like, 576 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: what is going on? It looked like she had kind 577 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: of unit Kim Kardashian skims, so maybe yeah for under 578 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: no no because So she released a YouTube video this 579 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: week and it was a day in the life, and 580 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: it showed her preparing for the photo shoot, and funnily enough, 581 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: she mentioned that SHANEI. Grimman has come along to help 582 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: her with the photo shoot and act as some sort 583 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: of support. So did they get photos on that stage 584 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: that we used to know? They didn't. It was actually 585 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: taken at some old manor. It wasn't that place anyway, 586 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: she showed her man. It was a different mansion. Yeah. 587 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: So they showed her shopping, shopping to get some behind 588 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: the scenes stuff, and she picked up some seamless g 589 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: string So I don't know if it is a skim 590 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: sort of Why was she not using stacks as seamless 591 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: g strings? That's all she's been talking about Instagram, She 592 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: didn't she share a photo of herself at the shoot 593 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: wearing a G string and a big T shirt. Did 594 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: you see that? 595 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: No? 596 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: I didn't. Actually it made me think of the Lord 597 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: album cover. It was very a bit like that, a 598 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: bit of an up. I was skirt but not bum shop. 599 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm loving Lily Brown at the moment. 600 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: I was never really a fan of her content, but 601 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: I feel like she's been a lot more real lately, 602 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: grown up a bit. Yeah, she does seem to have 603 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: grown up, and I really like the fact that in 604 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: her vlog you can see how hands on she has 605 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: actually been in the process, and I feel like she's 606 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: not you know, it's actually shown what a proper start 607 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: up business is. Like. It's funny because I'm looking at 608 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: the photo that she uploaded on Instagram and I'm not 609 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: sure if she's in the nude or there's nude colored legings. Well, 610 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell, isn't it. I think it's I 611 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: literally think that she's got skins on. Oh my god, 612 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: that's how blind I am. I literally thought she was 613 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: wearing green legings. But Kate's now brought the photo to 614 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: my ten and it does look like underwear. Hey, you know, 615 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: like the Emperor's new clothes when they try and like 616 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: literally just trick him into thinking that he's wearing his 617 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: expensive clothes. Maybe that will be the next influencer brand. 618 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: So she's nothing, just buy nothing. So she's a nude 619 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: or in nude slash Green Megan. But those but those 620 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: underpants are from Kmar, so they can't be the product. 621 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the top just a thought. Does that mean 622 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: if she is doing a pajama line, it's gonna rival Sophications? Well, 623 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: so many influencers have pajamas, like George Loves Got Pajamas. 624 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: That's not the only influencer pajama line. Now, what do 625 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: you guys think about this whole secret project thing we've 626 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: spoken about a few times. I mean, personally, I'm actually 627 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: waiting and hanging out to see what it is. I mean, 628 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: but the thing is, but I'm not going to buy it, 629 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of interested to see by it. I'm 630 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: not interested because it's just going to be your typical 631 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: lounge wear or active for wha. But would you rather 632 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: be involved in the process and know beforehand? Okay, I'm 633 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: making a sleep wear line, Yes, and yeah, because it 634 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because she's doing these behind the scenes 635 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: logs and you can't even say what she's done. That's 636 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: what I don't get. I don't know why an influencer 637 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: can't just come out and say, hey, guys, I'm actually 638 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: just going to be launching a pajama line. I'm thinking 639 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: of this, this, this, and then actually just launch it. 640 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: But there seems to be I think because everybody does 641 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: the whole secrecy thing, they just follow. I can understand 642 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: from a marketing perspective wanting an immediate call to action 643 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: when there's the most excitement over it. But I feel 644 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: like influencers already have that in built audience that they're 645 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: always going to get that flood of people buying the product. 646 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: So I think it would be interesting to be taken 647 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: along on the journey. I mean, that would make it 648 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: different from every other influencer. Oh not a man in crime. 649 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: My diamond earring came up and the ocean and it's fun. 650 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: There's day The Kardashians have just wrapped up filming their 651 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: reunion show for Keeping Up with the Kardashians, and it 652 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: seems like there were a lot of bomb shells dropped. 653 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: So if it, what's your favorite being so far? Well, 654 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: they really didn't hold back. I mean, what's quite interesting 655 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: is the Kardashians always known for bearing all on the 656 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: reality show, but they did reveal a number of topics 657 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: that were off limit during filming. What would they have 658 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: actually been because a lot of the lead dramas on 659 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: that show were personal relationship issues they were having. Well, 660 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: it really came in the latest series, I suppose, when 661 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: they were even bigger celebrities, and a lot of the 662 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: off limit stuff was involving Courtney kardash In, so it 663 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: had a lot to do with her new relationship. So 664 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: if you remember, none of her current relationships have been 665 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: aired on the show at all. So host of the 666 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: reunion Andy Cohen asked Chloe if she felt as though 667 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: she had carried the show in the last few seasons, 668 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: because of course she bared it all. They documented her 669 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: being cheated on by Tristan Thompson only weeks before giving 670 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: birth to Truth. You know, she put everything on the line, 671 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: and Chloe said that she felt as though she and 672 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: Kim had given so much compared to other family members, 673 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: and she said that maybe others weren't holding up to 674 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: their end of the deal too. Well, I can see 675 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: why she would feel like that. I mean, it was 676 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: quite apparent that Courtney was being pretty closed off. It 677 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: also seemed like Courtney didn't really want to be involved 678 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: in the show at all. Yeah, where she still profited 679 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: from it. Remember that huge fight that they had when 680 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: they had that punch up and basically they were all saying, 681 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: you don't share anything, we have to share everything about 682 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: our life. Well, they did touch on that fight during 683 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: the reunion. But going into Courtney not sharing her relationships, 684 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Chloe said that because so much of the early show 685 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: was focused on Courtney and Scott, Courtney demanded not to 686 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: have anyone talk about her new boyfriends because she felt 687 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: like the public was so invested in her and Scott. 688 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: I kind of feel for Courtney though, because it's true 689 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the storylines were around how toxic her 690 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: relationship was with Scott, and while she may have not 691 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: really given people a big insight into her personal life 692 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: in the latter series, in the opening ones, she definitely was. 693 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, she had Mason. The Birth of Mason filmed, 694 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: we basically saw her Mason out of herself. But that no, 695 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: but that being said in regards to Chloe, she has 696 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: shared everything. She also shared getting cheated on by lamar 697 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Odem and you know, at her peak of fame. She 698 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: also shared again that she was made to look like 699 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: a fool with the whole Jordan Woods cheating scandal with 700 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson as well. Do you think, though, with Chloe 701 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: being so open with the audiences, that might be why 702 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: she's so popular, because I do feel like Kim and 703 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: Chloe are a lot more popular than Courtney. I don't know, 704 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: I feel like people do like Courtney. But from her 705 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: in her defense, I wonder if she didn't want to 706 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: share her relationships, especially with that young model Yonas is 707 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: that his name? Because I wonder if she felt like, 708 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: is he just using me to get a bit of 709 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: a profile, because to be honest, lamar Odem and Tristan 710 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Thompson they're already known in their own right because of 711 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they are basketball players, but he was 712 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: very unknown. Well, I more feel as though she didn't 713 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: want everyone was supposed to speculate on her relationship and 714 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: everyone getting involved in it, it all becomes a bit messy. 715 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: In saying that Chloe raised a good point she said, 716 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: we weren't even allowed to talk about it, even though 717 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of her relationships were being shared in photos 718 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: by the paparazzi, and so it didn't really make sense 719 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: for the show. Yeah. Well, I also heard that Kendall 720 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: Jenna had a rule that she would not allow any 721 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: of her boyfriends to be on Keeping Up with the 722 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: Kardashians unless they've been dating for a year. Do you 723 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: think that's why Kendall's probably the least popular Kardashian Jenna 724 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: because I don't feel like I know her at all. Really, 725 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: I think that she's really clever because you kind of 726 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: don't almost associate with her with a lot of the 727 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: drama that's gone on. You kind of think, oh, wow, 728 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: she's this huge supermodel that's above it. I also wouldn't 729 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: blame her not wanting to share those personal details because 730 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: she didn't really have a choice of being on the show. 731 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: She was a child when the show started filming, whereas 732 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: Kim Courtney and Chloe they signed up to that. Yeah, 733 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: but Kylie Jenne, she never really shared that much about 734 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: herself on the show, especially in the last few years. Nothing. 735 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: There was nothing about her relationship with Travis Scott. She 736 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: is always a background character on Keeping Up with the Kardashians. 737 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: I'd say her most memorable series were probably the first 738 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: and second. Well, it's really because she managed to tap 739 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: into that social media following early. I mean, she did 740 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: post a lot online back in twenty fourteen when no 741 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: one was really using Instagram and the way that she was, 742 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: so I think that's really how she's built her empire. 743 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: But you've got to remember she did have her own 744 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: spin off show, Life of Kylie where she was a 745 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: little bit more open. But I wasn't really interested. Did 746 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: you ever watch it? Yes? I did. It wasn't that good. 747 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: She never She didn't really reveal that much about her lines. Well, 748 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: she went on about how she felt, you know, that 749 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: she wanted to run away sometimes and didn't like all 750 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: the spotlight. So that was pretty interesting. Well, I think 751 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for. Thank you so much 752 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: for listening to today's episode. We do hope you enjoyed it. 753 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: If you did, can you please go and leave us 754 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: a review on Apple Podcasts, and go and subscribe on Spotify, 755 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: and don't forget to join in on all the conversations 756 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: going on in our Facebook community. Which has outspoken the 757 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: podcast community