WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Bardot's Belinda Chapple

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and

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<v Speaker 1>That is so fat.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I remember seeing the ad in New Ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember what I was wearing, I remember the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember everything. Us girls, we had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>say in everything. People think that we were manufactured and

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<v Speaker 2>in ways yes we were, but in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>ways it all came from us. Again, we didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>any profit from that.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were just being screwed left, right and centered

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<v Speaker 1>by the sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, big time, big time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. She came out on television recently and just said

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<v Speaker 2>that she stole from so because she actually stole the

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<v Speaker 2>most from me. Oh wow, that's all true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to believe. It's been twenty years since Bardo's

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<v Speaker 1>single Poison debut at number one in Australia. As massive

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<v Speaker 1>Bardo fans, we're thrilled to be joined today by former

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<v Speaker 1>band member Belinda Chapel Belinda officially welcome to Outspoken. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us all the way from Singapore.

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<v Speaker 2>My pleasure Fairsie, how are.

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<v Speaker 1>You coping in isolation, because I understand there's some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strict rules in Singapore in place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was actually unwell at the beginning of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so for me, I had to take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of time off work and kind of working from home

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more. And it's been a big change now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm better. You know, I can't go anywhere, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see friends. It's and my husband and I were

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<v Speaker 2>both working from home. Everything's closed. It's really busy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the evenings in Singapore are so happening till

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<v Speaker 2>very late, and it's we go out for a night

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<v Speaker 2>walk most nights and it's just everything's closed. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdest. It's like a set from a movie, you

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<v Speaker 2>know those again in kind of films where there's just

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<v Speaker 2>no one on the streets. It's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It is freaky. I was gonna say, last time I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Singapore, there were so many beautiful dogs. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's beautiful dogs everywhere, but Singapore seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>real designer dogs. Do you find that when you're walking around.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think maybe their dogs get extra

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<v Speaker 2>spoilt because so many people have helpers and live in maids,

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<v Speaker 2>and often you'll see the maids walking everyone's dogs, like

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<v Speaker 2>the owners don't walk them themselves. You see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and I think the maids look after them

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<v Speaker 2>and get them trimmed, and maybe that's why they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>extra Designerny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny Amy said that because I was actually noticing

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<v Speaker 1>all the beautiful long haired women and then the handbags.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously Amy and I are looking at different things signs,

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<v Speaker 1>design of dogs and bags. Well, now we're all spending

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<v Speaker 1>so much time inside. Do you have any recommendations of

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix or podcasts or books that you're reading or watching

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<v Speaker 1>whilst you're in isolation?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Look, I mean I've watched so much on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 2>but have done? I love all the documentaries. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched almost every documentary on Netflix, and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even name them because there's too many. But as far

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<v Speaker 2>as series, I loved A Zark. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>just brilliant. I don't know that actress's name, the blonde

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<v Speaker 2>girl with the younger girl with the I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you've watched a dark but I love the lead

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<v Speaker 2>actors in it, and I just think it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Big fan of A Zark and I've watched all series.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am a fan of the Real Housewives of

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<v Speaker 2>Hills and New York City. I don't watch the others,

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<v Speaker 2>just those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to get into Melbourne. You've got to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Melbourne. It is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did watch it? I did watch a few. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a car crash.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think it's I just loved I loved

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<v Speaker 2>the women on.

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<v Speaker 3>Beverly Hills. Yeah, more so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm embarrassed to admit, but I love that. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing as well. It's a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's definitely no judgment here. We loved I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say. We stumbled across some old episodes of pop

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<v Speaker 1>stars on YouTube and oh, my gosh, that that was

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<v Speaker 1>such a blast from the past. Have you rewatched any

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<v Speaker 1>of the episodes?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I recently watched the whole thing on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>probably about I don't know whenever. It was uploaded four

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<v Speaker 2>or five months ago, and I hadn't watched it since then,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's eighteen years ago or whatever, and just

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<v Speaker 2>parts of it I was cringing and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like I have my hands over my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we can watch some of these,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, I mean it was just it's really weird

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<v Speaker 2>to watch yourself that up close and personal, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that long ago. You know, I think anyone would feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a weird thing. It's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>there I was. I was twenty four, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Life was different then as it is. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, so a lot has changed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was long before social media and Google and laptops

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<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, weird. It's just and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where time has gone. It's just flown. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years older. I do in some ways, but not

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<v Speaker 2>in others. I'm a big kid in other ways. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird, weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You honestly don't look like you've aged a day since

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in Pop Stars though, because I haven't. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>obviously seen you since you know, you're on pop Stars,

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked up on Instagram and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Belinda looks exactly this, Like your hair is

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<v Speaker 1>so fabulous and oh my goodness, you're killing it. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your secrets?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I don't know. I think I know my

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<v Speaker 2>mom looks she looks good for her age. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had children yet, unfortunately, so that could be why I

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe less lines on my face.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of sleep. I look after myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I've always done lots ogre and recently lots

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<v Speaker 2>of meditation because I suffer from anxiety. And yeah, so no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean I think if you saw me,

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<v Speaker 2>you would see of aged. Obviously you put a nice filter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't go crazy with my filters and air brushing

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but I always put a nice little filter,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, you look a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, one of the things I loved watching because

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<v Speaker 1>we watched we actually watched the episode of pop Stars

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<v Speaker 1>the other day when it was the big concert in

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney and you guys were trying on some amazing outfits.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie was wearing her kind of like robot outfit that

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<v Speaker 1>was flashing, and there was like a space outfit, a

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<v Speaker 1>space outfit, yeah, and there was some like I think

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany had like cowb heerd cowboy hat. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>loving the two thousand fashion. Have you kept any of

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<v Speaker 1>those items of clothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I actually did. I had a suitcase that I

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<v Speaker 2>folded all my like my cat suits that I designed

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<v Speaker 2>because I designed all my outfits in Bardo. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think I wore a few iconic like

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<v Speaker 2>sort of things from Bettina Leano in the day. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you remember Bettina Leano.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for what from Real Housewives of Melbourne. Sorry, just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing in some trivia there for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, Okay, you're right, She's okay, because I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 2>met her. She's quite different to the sister right as

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<v Speaker 2>she Yeah okay, very over.

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<v Speaker 1>The top makeup and very like glamorous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah yeah that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, get it, get it. No, But I so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely kept, especially the pieces that I designed and

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<v Speaker 2>had made. So I kept all my costumes, my outfit

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<v Speaker 2>from Poison, my outfit from Asap, yeah, and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. But because a lot of it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>leather or it was like PVC and whatever, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it just disintegrated over the years and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't package it properly. I just put it in

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<v Speaker 2>a suitcase and put it in my mum and dad's

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<v Speaker 2>garage in Sydney. So I yeah, I went to get

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<v Speaker 2>everything out and it was just it dissolved, like really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So I only kept like a few pieces. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>two catsuits left, I think, and that's the big flares

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<v Speaker 2>and the dumb wants on the bottom. And my boots

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<v Speaker 2>that I actually had made as well. I have these

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<v Speaker 2>silver boots that I designed and had made by a

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<v Speaker 2>cobbler in Sydney, and their silver leather and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>these great studs on them and I wore them a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in Bardrows, so I kept them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're still good.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you do sound familiar. I do remember those now

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<v Speaker 1>that you're saying that, I was going to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you've revealed you've got all of these outfits,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit disappointed to hear, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>see that they weren't on your zoom call of course,

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<v Speaker 1>to commemorate the twenty year anniversary of poison. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us how did that all come about?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Sally Polyroonus from Barto she was always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get us back together once we split over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and she sent us a message about six months ago

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was in staid, guys, you know, it's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years coming up. If we're going to do something, we

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<v Speaker 2>better start looking at it now. And we I think

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<v Speaker 2>Sally was really hoping that Sophie would be involved and

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<v Speaker 2>kept messaging her and that Sophie wasn't interested at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So then it was just down to the four of

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<v Speaker 2>us and we, yeah, we're talking at length about it

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<v Speaker 2>and what it could be, whether it's a small thing,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it ends up just a barbecue that we all

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<v Speaker 2>catch up privately, or whether we actually do something in

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<v Speaker 2>the public eye just to you know, celebrate the music

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<v Speaker 2>that was, maybe even record some new music.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this was all in discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Sally changed her mind didn't really want to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything at all, sadly, and so then the three of

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<v Speaker 2>us were just left and we hopped on a call.

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<v Speaker 2>We were chatting and catching up and we were like, right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's seing. So we just we did that video and

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<v Speaker 2>we obviously couldn't do it there and then.

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<v Speaker 3>On the spot because of the lag.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're doing a zoom call and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>three people in it, there's three seconds lag, so you

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<v Speaker 2>certainly can't do a capella like that. So then we

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<v Speaker 2>found this app and we did it on that and

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<v Speaker 2>it was unrehearsed and completely You just add yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>the box and then send it to the other person

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<v Speaker 2>and then you harmonize on top, and so it was

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<v Speaker 2>just completely random and then we came.

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<v Speaker 3>Up with that.

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<v Speaker 2>We just were like, cool, let's post it. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good. You guys sounded amazing. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love for you guys to come back. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even if this is the three of you, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it would be there'd be so much demand for

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<v Speaker 1>at least one song or a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of agree with you actually, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we yeah, there's no reason why not kind of being

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of feel, and you know, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a new track, but yeah, we're looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about talking about Sophie. You and Sophie were

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<v Speaker 1>great friends when you guys were on Pop Stars. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is it sad that we don't want to slag off Sophie?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we love Sophie Monk as well. But is it

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<v Speaker 1>just a bit disappointing that she can't come back, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just a barbecue, if it wasn't publicized,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a little bit disappointing for you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, to be honest, for me, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>her since the last concert, so yeah, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that much time. I don't really have any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of feelings. It's like a stranger, you know. I have

0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.000
<v Speaker 2>wonderful memories of the time in the band with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Her and I in our stupid sense of humor, we

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<v Speaker 2>had an absolute ball together, you know, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>just constant banter and just I mean, we just get

0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.520
<v Speaker 2>each other going with our humor and we'll laugh our

0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.480
<v Speaker 2>heads off most of the time. So we really had

0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that bond in common with humor and stuff. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really seen her since then, So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I feel so much sad, But yeah, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know sort of how I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about it all in that way, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, as I said, it's yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>all awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just a bit lighthearted. I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you if you watched her on the Bachelorette, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing no, if you haven't seen No since the

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<v Speaker 1>last Singapore Yeah, I don't know. If the Bachelorette gets there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty sure I did watch one episode

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<v Speaker 2>online because you can find something. Yeah, and I think

0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.520
<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend, my best friend, was watching it and sending

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<v Speaker 2>me little memos. I'm like, oh, this is going on,

0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and she loves Bachelorette. So yeah, So then I definitely

0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.640
<v Speaker 2>looked it up and I watched one episode. But other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, I can't really I don't know I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we transported you back to two thousand, now,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you first hear about the pop stars audition?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you remember that audition process?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, so I've actually written a memoir, a book

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<v Speaker 2>which hopefully we'll be coming out this year, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that is in my book. Yeah. So, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember. I remember seeing the ad in New Idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember what I was wearing, I remember the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember everything. It was at a little corner store

0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.600
<v Speaker 2>by my house in Bronti. I lived near the beach

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.280
<v Speaker 2>at that time in a beach shack with my sister

0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and three other flatmates, and yeah, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a fabulous memory really because I was so young

0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was I had my little Bomby Honda, and

0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I was traveling to gigs out west every weekend. I

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<v Speaker 2>was singing in a covers band, and I was modeling

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<v Speaker 2>as well when I could, well, whatever job I got,

0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever modeling job I got at the time. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so no, I remember seeing that article. It was just

0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a one pager audition Australia's Answers answer to the Spice Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was so myself. I was like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get this. I'm definitely going to get And it's

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<v Speaker 2>really weird because I never I was so down on

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<v Speaker 2>myself really in a lot of ways. And I used

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<v Speaker 2>to audition a lot, but I was a really bad auditioner.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd get really nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>But for some reason with this, I just thought I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it so much and I just thought, right, I'm

0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.440
<v Speaker 2>going to get this, Like I had that attitude going

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<v Speaker 2>into the audition, and I think that's half of it,

0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't it. In life, you really really want something, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>make it happen. So my energy or my attitude or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I got me through two thousand girls or whatever

0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.200
<v Speaker 2>it was out of and I got it. So I

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>think that's a little lesson to everybody out there. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>if you really want something and you put that energy out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you just might get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so true. I was going to ask. I've recently

0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.280
<v Speaker 1>read that when they showed, you know, when they aired

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<v Speaker 1>you hearing that you'd got into the band, that that

0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.160
<v Speaker 1>was actually refilmed, like you'd found out early. What actually happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a mistake on their behalf or what happened? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, so I didn't they actually rework misinterpreted what

0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I said that journalist. I Actually what happened was I

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<v Speaker 2>was told before the day of filming. So I was

0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.160
<v Speaker 2>told two days earlier that I'd been chosen for the band,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was due to other reasons which I won't

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<v Speaker 2>go into. But then so when they came round to

0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>my house, I think it was because I wasn't sure

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I was going to sign the contract. Actually that's what

0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.520
<v Speaker 2>it was. Yeah, So then when I came round to

0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 2>when they came round to my house, I knew I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been picked, and I did that fake yay stringy thing

0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.160
<v Speaker 2>to come and haunt me when I saw it the

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<v Speaker 2>other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so no, so you touched on before that, before

0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you obviously got into the group. You were driving around

0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in like an old bomb Honda. But I do vividly

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.120
<v Speaker 1>remember all that, you girls getting a beetle, a different

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.639
<v Speaker 1>colored beetle, and oh my gosh, I still want a

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.200
<v Speaker 1>yellow beetle to this day, because I've seen you guys

0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.679
<v Speaker 1>driving around. But obviously you guys were insanely recognizable. Then

0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.560
<v Speaker 1>did and you're and the number plates had your names

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.880
<v Speaker 1>from memory on it? Yeah, did you guys? I think

0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you got them taken away from you after a little while.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that true that we had them taken away?

0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I remember on an episode there was you

0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.119
<v Speaker 1>guys got them and then maybe maybe I'm not remembering quickly,

0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but do you did you not get to drive around

0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.320
<v Speaker 1>them for very long because you were too recognizable?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think we had them for a while. I

0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:42.400
<v Speaker 2>think they changed them around and they were borrowed. Even

0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.760
<v Speaker 2>though we did their whole campaign on television. They didn't

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.240
<v Speaker 2>give them to us. They were borrowed and we had

0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.760
<v Speaker 2>to give them back. But no, I don't think our

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.360
<v Speaker 2>names are on the number plates. If I from memory

0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.119
<v Speaker 2>and I remember I had a blue one for a

0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 2>while and then I had a green ones.

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.760
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think it was about a year we

0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.119
<v Speaker 3>had them. No, I don't know. I didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe it was because I was living

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>in Bronti. Not many people watched pop stars in Bronti.

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But I don't remember the car bringing

0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.480
<v Speaker 2>that much attention. I don't know, well from a short

0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.000
<v Speaker 2>side it anyway, So I didn't see it.

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve at the time, and it made a

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.199
<v Speaker 1>great impact on me. What a great marketing campaign. I

0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.840
<v Speaker 1>still want one twenty years later. Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Money?

0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? There were a lot of scandalous well not a lot,

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.120
<v Speaker 1>but there was a Sorry, there were a few scandalous

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>moments on pop stars, and I'm sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out more from your book, which I personally can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to read. Are you able to touch on any

0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of the moments that involved Chantell Barry because she's often forgotten,

0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.399
<v Speaker 1>But she got sort of turfed out of the group,

0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and there was rumors that she stole money from Sophie Monk.

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<v Speaker 1>What actually happened? Can you say what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I won't the details are in my book.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it was interesting that she came I found

0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.159
<v Speaker 2>it fascinating that she came out on television recently and

0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 2>just said that she stole from Sophie because she actually

0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:08.639
<v Speaker 2>stole the most from me.

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but yeah, she only stopped from both of us.

0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's all true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's disappointing because I read that you guys were getting

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.959
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars a week allowance. I think that's what

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Chantel said.

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, twenty dollars a day per ms. Yeah,

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:26.360
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is crazy. I know it was twenty years ago,

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 1>but one hundred dollars twenty years ago was still not

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>very much money. How were you guys.

0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Staring on that? Well, they, I mean it was like

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.360
<v Speaker 2>living in a bubble. They paid for everything, so we

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, we were able to.

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 3>And I'm pretty sure in the end they were.

0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they covered all our living expenses, but they

0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.720
<v Speaker 2>were making a lot of money from us, as you

0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 2>can imagine over the years.

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, it's we were on p dms. Yes,

0:19:58.800 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 3>that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So what was it like living all together? I think

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it was in the same apartment. But let me know

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>if I'm wrong, but like, how did that go and

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>how did you guys all manage to get along? Or

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.680
<v Speaker 1>were there times when there was like fighting? Because I mean,

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.600
<v Speaker 1>as we're triplets, so I lived with my two sisters

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>for thirty years and we fought like every day, So

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine it would have been easy living with

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>four other girls that you hardly knew.

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I think we did really well. You

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.959
<v Speaker 2>know that. I don't recall a lot of negativity at

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.919
<v Speaker 2>all in the band, not in the first year, not

0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.160
<v Speaker 2>really even after Katie left. I'm sure. Yeah, sure there

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.679
<v Speaker 2>were moments of stress and you know, where two personalities

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.640
<v Speaker 2>would clash or whatever, but nothing major, nothing at all,

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing that tore us apart or you know, or really

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 2>caused problems. I think it was remarkable really how we

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.600
<v Speaker 2>all sort of got on under such pressure.

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 3>When I look back, you know, it was, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty impressive. What about did anyone steal each other's

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>clothes or just the allowance just sorry?

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 2>We were given a lot of free clothes.

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 1>That's good.

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And because we helped but launch Bardow the clothing label,

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 2>they gave us a lot of free clothes, so that

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 2>was cool. Yeah, so that.

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Was going to be one of my questions because I

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.160
<v Speaker 1>do recall there was that association with the Bardo clothing line.

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.639
<v Speaker 1>So I'm assuming you guys didn't have much say in

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the name of the band.

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 2>No, Sophie and I we we named the band. We

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>came up. I sort of had the idea that we

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 2>should be called Hepburn after Audrey Hepburn, and the idea

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 2>of us being named after a beautiful movie actress, like

0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 2>someone feminine, someone very well known, and yeah, and Sophie's like,

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 2>what about Bridget Bartow? And then it was Barto, So

0:21:55.880 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 2>that's that's how it happened. And so yeah, yeah, we

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 2>named us girls. We had a lot of say in everything.

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 2>People think that we were manufactured and in ways yes

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>we were, but in a lot of ways it all

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 2>came from us, you know, down to our clothes and

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 2>songs that were released. And yeah, we did have a

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 2>say absolutely.

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's takesful. So did the clothing line come off

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the back of you guys naming the band bud O

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>then no.

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 2>So when we went to register bard O the name,

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.680
<v Speaker 2>they obviously we did a search and we found there

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.120
<v Speaker 2>was this little company in Melbourne in a backstreet, unknown,

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.959
<v Speaker 2>completely unknown. So we cut a deal with them and

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 2>then they launched and just went all over Australia. They

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 2>were in every single westfield and the Yeah, we basically

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 2>launched their brand and I think our company that owned

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 2>bou and they did a deal with them. But again

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>we didn't see any profit from that. That was just

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 2>done between the girls in Melbourne that owned this company,

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Barrow and then yeah and the people that owned Bardo

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.120
<v Speaker 2>the band. So yeah, that's how it happened.

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you probably can't say too much, but

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys are just being screwed left, right and centered

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>by the sounds.

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah.

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Was that one of the decisions for the split because

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys were doing so well and I

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>read in an interview you were talking about how disappointed

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you were and how I suppose frustrated it yourself in

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a way for signing the signing the release that.

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Said it was related.

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was money a reason for the split.

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Were you guys wanting to go Were there some members

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>wanting to go their own way?

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 2>If that was the case, I don't know. It was

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 2>never verbalized to me from any of the members, and

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 2>we had actually just restructured everything, so we started to

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>make some money finally sort of the last five months

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 2>before the band ended. So no, we were in a

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 2>much better space financially, and we owned our name again.

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>They'd given us the name Bardo and yeah, so it

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>was all positive. Everything was onwards and upwards. But again

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I go into the details of how it happened, but

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it's it'll all be in my book.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. When when does your book drop? When?

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>When?

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Where can we find it when it's released?

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, at this stage, I'm like just finalizing exactly those details,

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>so I won't sort of say how and when yet,

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 2>but soon I'll be able to reveal that.

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, just back to you guys all living together. We

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>recently did an interview with I don't know if you

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>watched austraiin Idol, but with Rob Mills who was on

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the first series, and he mentioned that they used to

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sneak out of idle h sorry, out of their idle mansion.

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys ever manage to sneak out and did

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you have disguises that you'd wear or were you guys

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all pretty good?

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Well? I was the only Sydney girl. If I recall

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>in the initial stages when we were in that house

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>when we were filming pop Stars, and yes, I with

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>my car and go and see family and my boyfriend,

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I remember the other girls not so much

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't have a car and didn't have family

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and friends in Sydney, so they all sort of stuck

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 2>it out in the house most of the time. I

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't get out a lot, but I definitely got out.

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, as far as like disguises and stuff, I

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>don't recall that. I just remember things like me being

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>on a plane and falling asleep and dribbling and then

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 2>a fan coming up and sort of waking you from

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 2>a really deep sleep, and you know, things like that.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a crazy time, like it was. Yeah, the

0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>fans were there were lots of fans it that way.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any crazy kind of stalker fans or

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>was it because it was predominantly women, it was a

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>bit more chilled.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>We did have a few. Actually, in Tiffany sent me

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 2>a photo of one the other day, he said, and

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 2>he was in Adelaide and she was like remember him,

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and oh my god, yes, just to his face.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, that's.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Right back, guy, you know, nineteen years ago.

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>He's probably listening to this right now.

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. And then who else, No, nothing, mate,

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>We did. We had some girls that really sort of

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, would come to our homes and scream and

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, drive around the block and blare our music.

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Was no, no, we were twelve, We couldn't drive.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 3>We did.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>We did go to your appearance at Marion Shopping Center

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and and I remember our mom finally agreed that we

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>could go, but that meant that we parked like two

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>streets away and then we're like crushed right at the back.

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>So we were there, but we didn't really see anything.

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Ye what were those shopping and what were the shopping

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>center appearances like? Because even now looking back, I don't

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>think I've ever seen a shopping center so packed out

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>for anybody.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they were saying there was twenty thousand

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 2>at those ones in the initial stages, you know, the

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>initial ones that we did, which you're talking about where

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>we went all around the country just off the back

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 2>of the TV show. But yeah, twenty thousand people like

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>it was. I do remember that first one we did

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>in Paramatta, that just was just on another level, and

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the screaming actually made me want to cry with emotion

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, happiness, overwhelm, like I don't even know,

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>but I just remember hopping on stage and just feeling

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the energy from the crowd and the screams and just going,

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I just want to stand here and cry.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sing and dance, you know. I

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>really remember that feeling. And I had a big lump

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>in my throat for that first performance. It's and you

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 2>can't sing with a big lump.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 3>In your throat.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I have vivid, vivid memories of that performance

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>in particular, but yeah, there were so many.

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>That's so cool moving on from moving from pop stars.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So I suppose what you did after Bardo. I read

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>online that you were the creative director for Asia's Next

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Top Model in Singapore. Can you tell us a little

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>bit about that and how that all came about.

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wasn't. No, I was creative director on a show.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>You might might have got that confused. I was creative

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>director on a show that I did in Planet Hollywood

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas, a stage show with female a female review show.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>That was what I was creative director for but for

0:28:54.240 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Asia's Next Next Top Model, I was VIP for events. Yeah,

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>just basically working for that company, Iced TV that launched

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the series here in Singapore. So yeah, that

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>was just that kind of job. But I wasn't not

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>creative director for ages nextwork next we ask you that.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for clearing that up. Was it bizarre working

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>closely I suppose with another reality TV TV show though.

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>No, not really. I mean for me, I just love

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>all that, Like I love that industry, and it's the industry,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, anything creative and to do with television and

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>stage I'm totally passionate about. So no, it was I

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>loved that job. It was great. It was great to

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>work behind the scenes actually enjoy what I actually enjoy

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>working behind the scenes just as much as in front.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>We're really not surprised to hear you're an interior designer

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>because your Instagram is very esthetically pleasing. Can you tell

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit more about your business House of chapel.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a few house for different things around the world,

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And actually I went when I went to register the name,

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>there is a and when I went to put up

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>my Instagram as a house of Chapel fashion label in America,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>so it's you know, household. It isn't that you know,

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>people have done it before, but I think it's just

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>for me. I just I quite like my last name

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and I love that it's my I don't have any

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters, and sorry, I don't have any brothers

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to take on the Chapel to keep the Chapel name,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I just thought it was a nice

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>ode to my dad and my dad's side of the family,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it just made sense to call it that.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 2>But I was in London for a few years with

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>my husband. He's from Sweden, so that's why I ended

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>up on that side of the world living and I

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>when I first got there, I had some extra time

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 2>because I was sorting out my work visa. And it

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was just something that I'd always wanted to do. And

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we all have dreams of setting up our

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>own businesses and things that we've you know, thought about

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>doing and then we don't do it. And I just thought,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>you know what, this is something that I've always wanted

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to do, and I hadn't I didn't go to university,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it was a big deal to go

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 2>back and study, and you know, I had I guess.

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, can I do this? And I

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>loved it, absolutely loved it. I just did a diploma

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>for a year, but it was fabulous. I loved every

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>minute of it. And I actually recently looked into studying

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>further to get my bachelor in it.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 3>But it's so expensive to.

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Get a degree, isn't it. It's just it's yeah, so expensive.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So and for me, it would just be an achievement

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to do for myself. And I thought,

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I can, I can put that money

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>into the business. So I decided not to do that.

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>But no, that's how it happened. And then I set

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it up organically and we have a house marbe Are

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>in Spain, my husband and I, so we that's sort

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of where I opened up that sort of leg of

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>the business. And then now I'm in Asia, so yeah,

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I work. I take clients all over the world. Really

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>now you can you can do it from anywhere as

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>long as you know. Some clients like you to inspect

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the actual be on site and expect inspect the actual location.

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>But you can actually do it without seeing it because

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 2>you can send photos, videos, you know, you can order

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>from all over the world. You can make things happen

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 2>even if you're not actually their.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I've got an interior design question for you. It's a

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>bit of a personal question because my boyfriend and I

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>we've moved in and we do not have the same

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>taste at all. How do you work through those problems

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>with clients, if someone, for example, because I like really

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>modern looking houses and he likes really sort of the

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>old wooden style. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you work

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>with your work through those kind of problems and find

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a solution.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I have the same problem with my husband. I mean

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>we yeah, absolutely, he's I mean, our tastes aren't two different.

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>But then I've definitely got my clear vision of exactly

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>what I like and he's got his things that he likes.

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>So no, and I think that's really common. But you

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>just try and understand both tastes and merge them. And

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I love doing that. I love being able to that's

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>a challenge to me, and you know, usually you'll be surprised.

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I always feel like all the different genres of design,

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they you put them together and mix them, and that's

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what will make it timeless. You know, if you

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>just stick with one trend I find that's when your house,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a few years, you'll look at it

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and you'll go, oh, no, like it's it looks out

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>of fashion. So I think if you mix dials, and

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>that's one of my favorite things to do, is mix

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the old with the new.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel vintage pieces with some really modern pieces.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry, I mean to interrupt you. I was gonna say,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to. I'll definitely have to hit you up

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>when we do move into a new house, because that's

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we need someone being the mediator, and

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll need all your details in our show notes as

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>well where people can find you.

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic, great, Well, thank you.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So much for joining us. We had so much fun

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>going down memory lane with you, and we do appreciate

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>your time so much, so thanks so much for talking

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>with us.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>No problem at all, my pleasure.