1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Sophie Torber. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: That is so fat. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. I remember seeing the ad in New Ideas. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: I remember what I was wearing, I remember the weather, 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: I remember everything. Us girls, we had a lot of 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: say in everything. People think that we were manufactured and 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: in ways yes we were, but in a lot of 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: ways it all came from us. Again, we didn't see 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: any profit from that. 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: You guys were just being screwed left, right and centered 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: by the sound. 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, big time, big time. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. She came out on television recently and just said 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: that she stole from so because she actually stole the 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: most from me. Oh wow, that's all true. 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. It's been twenty years since Bardo's 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: single Poison debut at number one in Australia. As massive 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Bardo fans, we're thrilled to be joined today by former 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: band member Belinda Chapel Belinda officially welcome to Outspoken. Thanks 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: for joining us all the way from Singapore. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: My pleasure Fairsie, how are. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: You coping in isolation, because I understand there's some pretty 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: strict rules in Singapore in place. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: Yes. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: Well, I was actually unwell at the beginning of this year, 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: so for me, I had to take a little bit 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: of time off work and kind of working from home 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: a lot more. And it's been a big change now 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: that I'm better. You know, I can't go anywhere, I 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: can't see friends. It's and my husband and I were 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: both working from home. Everything's closed. It's really busy, and 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: I guess the evenings in Singapore are so happening till 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: very late, and it's we go out for a night 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: walk most nights and it's just everything's closed. It's just 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: the weirdest. It's like a set from a movie, you 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: know those again in kind of films where there's just 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: no one on the streets. It's bizarre. 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: It is freaky. I was gonna say, last time I 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: went to Singapore, there were so many beautiful dogs. I 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: know there's beautiful dogs everywhere, but Singapore seems to have 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: real designer dogs. Do you find that when you're walking around. 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think maybe their dogs get extra 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: spoilt because so many people have helpers and live in maids, 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: and often you'll see the maids walking everyone's dogs, like 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 2: the owners don't walk them themselves. You see a lot 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: of that, and I think the maids look after them 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: and get them trimmed, and maybe that's why they're looking 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: extra Designerny. 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: It's funny Amy said that because I was actually noticing 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: all the beautiful long haired women and then the handbags. 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: So obviously Amy and I are looking at different things signs, 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: design of dogs and bags. Well, now we're all spending 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: so much time inside. Do you have any recommendations of 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Netflix or podcasts or books that you're reading or watching 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: whilst you're in isolation? 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I mean I've watched so much on Netflix, 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: but have done? I love all the documentaries. I think 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: I've watched almost every documentary on Netflix, and I can't 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: even name them because there's too many. But as far 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: as series, I loved A Zark. I thought it was 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: just brilliant. I don't know that actress's name, the blonde 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: girl with the younger girl with the I don't know 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: if you've watched a dark but I love the lead 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: actors in it, and I just think it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. 69 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: Big fan of A Zark and I've watched all series. 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: And I am a fan of the Real Housewives of 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Hills and New York City. I don't watch the others, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: just those two. 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: You've got to get into Melbourne. You've got to watch 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Melbourne. It is amazing. 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Did watch it? I did watch a few. It's a 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: bit of a car crash. 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: I just I think it's I just loved I loved 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: the women on. 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. Yeah, more so. 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to admit, but I love that. I love 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: that kind of thing as well. It's a bit of fun. 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh, there's definitely no judgment here. We loved I was 84 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna say. We stumbled across some old episodes of pop 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: stars on YouTube and oh, my gosh, that that was 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: such a blast from the past. Have you rewatched any 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: of the episodes? 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: I did. I recently watched the whole thing on YouTube, 89 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: probably about I don't know whenever. It was uploaded four 90 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: or five months ago, and I hadn't watched it since then, 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: and so that's eighteen years ago or whatever, and just 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: parts of it I was cringing and oh my god, 93 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: it was like I have my hands over my eyes. 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if we can watch some of these, 95 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: but no, I mean it was just it's really weird 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: to watch yourself that up close and personal, you know, 97 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: that long ago. You know, I think anyone would feel that. 98 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: It's just a weird thing. It's like, oh my god, 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: there I was. I was twenty four, and I don't know. 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: Life was different then as it is. You know, that's 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, so a lot has changed. I mean, 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: it was long before social media and Google and laptops 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: and like, yeah, weird. It's just and I don't know 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: where time has gone. It's just flown. I don't feel 105 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: twenty years older. I do in some ways, but not 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: in others. I'm a big kid in other ways. So yeah, 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: it's weird, weird. 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: You honestly don't look like you've aged a day since 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: appearing in Pop Stars though, because I haven't. I hadn't 110 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: obviously seen you since you know, you're on pop Stars, 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and I looked up on Instagram and I was like, oh, 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: my god, Belinda looks exactly this, Like your hair is 113 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: so fabulous and oh my goodness, you're killing it. What 114 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: are your secrets? 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't know. I think I know my 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: mom looks she looks good for her age. I haven't 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: had children yet, unfortunately, so that could be why I 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: have maybe less lines on my face. 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: I get a lot of sleep. I look after myself. 121 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: You know. I've always done lots ogre and recently lots 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: of meditation because I suffer from anxiety. And yeah, so no, 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I think if you saw me, 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: you would see of aged. Obviously you put a nice filter. 125 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: I don't go crazy with my filters and air brushing 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: at all, but I always put a nice little filter, 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: so you know, you look a little bit better. 128 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, one of the things I loved watching because 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: we watched we actually watched the episode of pop Stars 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the other day when it was the big concert in 131 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Sydney and you guys were trying on some amazing outfits. 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Katie was wearing her kind of like robot outfit that 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: was flashing, and there was like a space outfit, a 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: space outfit, yeah, and there was some like I think 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Tiffany had like cowb heerd cowboy hat. I was just 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: loving the two thousand fashion. Have you kept any of 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: those items of clothing? 138 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually did. I had a suitcase that I 139 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: folded all my like my cat suits that I designed 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: because I designed all my outfits in Bardo. So yeah, 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean I think I wore a few iconic like 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: sort of things from Bettina Leano in the day. I 143 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: don't know if you remember Bettina Leano. 144 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Sorry for what from Real Housewives of Melbourne. Sorry, just 145 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: throwing in some trivia there for you. 146 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, you're right, She's okay, because I'm sure I 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: met her. She's quite different to the sister right as 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: she Yeah okay, very over. 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: The top makeup and very like glamorous. 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah that one. 151 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, get it, get it. No, But I so yeah, 152 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: I definitely kept, especially the pieces that I designed and 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: had made. So I kept all my costumes, my outfit 154 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: from Poison, my outfit from Asap, yeah, and that kind 155 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: of thing. But because a lot of it wasn't like 156 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: leather or it was like PVC and whatever, a lot 157 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: of it just disintegrated over the years and I didn't. 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: I didn't package it properly. I just put it in 159 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: a suitcase and put it in my mum and dad's 160 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: garage in Sydney. So I yeah, I went to get 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: everything out and it was just it dissolved, like really weird. 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: So I only kept like a few pieces. I've got 163 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: two catsuits left, I think, and that's the big flares 164 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: and the dumb wants on the bottom. And my boots 165 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: that I actually had made as well. I have these 166 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: silver boots that I designed and had made by a 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: cobbler in Sydney, and their silver leather and they've got 168 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: these great studs on them and I wore them a 169 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: lot in Bardrows, so I kept them. 170 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: They're still good. 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Because you do sound familiar. I do remember those now 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: that you're saying that, I was going to say that, 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: now that you've revealed you've got all of these outfits, 174 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit disappointed to hear, you know, to 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: see that they weren't on your zoom call of course, 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: to commemorate the twenty year anniversary of poison. Can you 177 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: tell us how did that all come about? 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: Ah? 179 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: Well, we. 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: I think Sally Polyroonus from Barto she was always trying 181 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: to get us back together once we split over the years, 182 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: and she sent us a message about six months ago 183 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: whatever it was in staid, guys, you know, it's twenty 184 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: years coming up. If we're going to do something, we 185 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: better start looking at it now. And we I think 186 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: Sally was really hoping that Sophie would be involved and 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: kept messaging her and that Sophie wasn't interested at all. 188 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: So then it was just down to the four of 189 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: us and we, yeah, we're talking at length about it 190 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: and what it could be, whether it's a small thing, 191 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: whether it ends up just a barbecue that we all 192 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: catch up privately, or whether we actually do something in 193 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: the public eye just to you know, celebrate the music 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: that was, maybe even record some new music. 195 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: You know, this was all in discussion. 196 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: Then Sally changed her mind didn't really want to do 197 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: anything at all, sadly, and so then the three of 198 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: us were just left and we hopped on a call. 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: We were chatting and catching up and we were like, right, 200 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: let's seing. So we just we did that video and 201 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: we obviously couldn't do it there and then. 202 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: On the spot because of the lag. 203 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: So if you're doing a zoom call and you've got 204 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: three people in it, there's three seconds lag, so you 205 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: certainly can't do a capella like that. So then we 206 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: found this app and we did it on that and 207 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: it was unrehearsed and completely You just add yourself in 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: the box and then send it to the other person 209 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: and then you harmonize on top, and so it was 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: just completely random and then we came. 211 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: Up with that. 212 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: We just were like, cool, let's post it. So that's 213 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: how it happened. 214 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: It was so good. You guys sounded amazing. I would 215 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: love for you guys to come back. And I mean, 216 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: even if this is the three of you, I feel 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: like it would be there'd be so much demand for 218 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: at least one song or a few. 219 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're thinking. 220 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you actually, and I think 221 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: we yeah, there's no reason why not kind of being 222 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: I sort of feel, and you know, even if it's 223 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: just a new track, but yeah, we're looking at it. 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: Put it that way. Cool. 225 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: We're talking about talking about Sophie. You and Sophie were 226 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: great friends when you guys were on Pop Stars. I mean, 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: is it sad that we don't want to slag off Sophie? 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Because we love Sophie Monk as well. But is it 229 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: just a bit disappointing that she can't come back, even 230 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: if it was just a barbecue, if it wasn't publicized, 231 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: is it a little bit disappointing for you guys? 232 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, look, to be honest, for me, I haven't seen 233 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: her since the last concert, so yeah, so you can 234 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: imagine that much time. I don't really have any sort 235 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: of feelings. It's like a stranger, you know. I have 236 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: wonderful memories of the time in the band with her. 237 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Her and I in our stupid sense of humor, we 238 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: had an absolute ball together, you know, like it was 239 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: just constant banter and just I mean, we just get 240 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: each other going with our humor and we'll laugh our 241 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: heads off most of the time. So we really had 242 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: that bond in common with humor and stuff. But no, 243 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: I haven't really seen her since then, So I don't 244 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: know if I feel so much sad, But yeah, I think, yeah, 245 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know sort of how I 246 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: feel about it all in that way, to be honest. 247 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, as I said, it's yeah, I think that's 248 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: all awesome. 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just a bit lighthearted. I was going to 250 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: ask you if you watched her on the Bachelorette, but 251 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm guessing no, if you haven't seen No since the 252 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: last Singapore Yeah, I don't know. If the Bachelorette gets there. 253 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty sure I did watch one episode 254 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: online because you can find something. Yeah, and I think 255 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: my girlfriend, my best friend, was watching it and sending 256 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: me little memos. I'm like, oh, this is going on, 257 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: and she loves Bachelorette. So yeah, So then I definitely 258 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: looked it up and I watched one episode. But other 259 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: than that, I can't really I don't know I did. 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: So if we transported you back to two thousand, now, 261 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: when did you first hear about the pop stars audition? 262 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: And do you remember that audition process? 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, yes, so I've actually written a memoir, a book 264 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: which hopefully we'll be coming out this year, and all 265 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: of that is in my book. Yeah. So, but no, 266 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: I remember. I remember seeing the ad in New Idea. 267 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: I remember what I was wearing, I remember the weather, 268 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: I remember everything. It was at a little corner store 269 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: by my house in Bronti. I lived near the beach 270 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: at that time in a beach shack with my sister 271 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: and three other flatmates, and yeah, it was. It was 272 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: such a fabulous memory really because I was so young 273 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: and I was I had my little Bomby Honda, and 274 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I was traveling to gigs out west every weekend. I 275 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: was singing in a covers band, and I was modeling 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: as well when I could, well, whatever job I got, 277 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: whatever modeling job I got at the time. And yeah, 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: so no, I remember seeing that article. It was just 279 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: a one pager audition Australia's Answers answer to the Spice Girls. 280 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: And I was so myself. I was like, I'm going 281 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: to get this. I'm definitely going to get And it's 282 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: really weird because I never I was so down on 283 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: myself really in a lot of ways. And I used 284 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: to audition a lot, but I was a really bad auditioner. 285 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: I'd get really nervous. 286 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: But for some reason with this, I just thought I 287 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: wanted it so much and I just thought, right, I'm 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: going to get this, Like I had that attitude going 289 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: into the audition, and I think that's half of it, 290 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: isn't it. In life, you really really want something, you'll 291 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: make it happen. So my energy or my attitude or 292 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: whatever I got me through two thousand girls or whatever 293 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: it was out of and I got it. So I 294 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: think that's a little lesson to everybody out there. Actually, 295 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: if you really want something and you put that energy out, 296 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, you just might get it. 297 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: That's so true. I was going to ask. I've recently 298 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: read that when they showed, you know, when they aired 299 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: you hearing that you'd got into the band, that that 300 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: was actually refilmed, like you'd found out early. What actually happened. 301 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Was there a mistake on their behalf or what happened? No? 302 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: No, no, so I didn't they actually rework misinterpreted what 303 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: I said that journalist. I Actually what happened was I 304 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: was told before the day of filming. So I was 305 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: told two days earlier that I'd been chosen for the band, 306 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: and that was due to other reasons which I won't 307 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: go into. But then so when they came round to 308 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: my house, I think it was because I wasn't sure 309 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: I was going to sign the contract. Actually that's what 310 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, So then when I came round to 311 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: when they came round to my house, I knew I'd 312 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: been picked, and I did that fake yay stringy thing 313 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: to come and haunt me when I saw it the 314 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: other day. 315 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, so you touched on before that, before 316 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: you obviously got into the group. You were driving around 317 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: in like an old bomb Honda. But I do vividly 318 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: remember all that, you girls getting a beetle, a different 319 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: colored beetle, and oh my gosh, I still want a 320 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: yellow beetle to this day, because I've seen you guys 321 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: driving around. But obviously you guys were insanely recognizable. Then 322 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: did and you're and the number plates had your names 323 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: from memory on it? Yeah, did you guys? I think 324 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: you got them taken away from you after a little while. 325 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: Was that true that we had them taken away? 326 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: I think I remember on an episode there was you 327 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: guys got them and then maybe maybe I'm not remembering quickly, 328 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: but do you did you not get to drive around 329 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: them for very long because you were too recognizable? 330 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: No, I think we had them for a while. I 331 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: think they changed them around and they were borrowed. Even 332 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: though we did their whole campaign on television. They didn't 333 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: give them to us. They were borrowed and we had 334 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: to give them back. But no, I don't think our 335 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: names are on the number plates. If I from memory 336 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: and I remember I had a blue one for a 337 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: while and then I had a green ones. 338 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it was about a year we 339 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: had them. No, I don't know. I didn't feel like 340 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: it was that. 341 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it was because I was living 342 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: in Bronti. Not many people watched pop stars in Bronti. 343 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, But I don't remember the car bringing 344 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: that much attention. I don't know, well from a short 345 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: side it anyway, So I didn't see it. 346 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: I was twelve at the time, and it made a 347 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: great impact on me. What a great marketing campaign. I 348 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: still want one twenty years later. Is that. 349 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: Money? 350 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? There were a lot of scandalous well not a lot, 351 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: but there was a Sorry, there were a few scandalous 352 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: moments on pop stars, and I'm sure we're going to 353 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: find out more from your book, which I personally can't 354 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: wait to read. Are you able to touch on any 355 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: of the moments that involved Chantell Barry because she's often forgotten, 356 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: But she got sort of turfed out of the group, 357 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: and there was rumors that she stole money from Sophie Monk. 358 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: What actually happened? Can you say what happened? 359 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, I won't the details are in my book. 360 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: But no, it was interesting that she came I found 361 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: it fascinating that she came out on television recently and 362 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: just said that she stole from Sophie because she actually 363 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: stole the most from me. 364 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 365 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, she only stopped from both of us. 366 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's all true. 367 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: That's disappointing because I read that you guys were getting 368 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars a week allowance. I think that's what 369 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: Chantel said. 370 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, twenty dollars a day per ms. Yeah, 371 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: something like that. 372 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, is crazy. I know it was twenty years ago, 373 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: but one hundred dollars twenty years ago was still not 374 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: very much money. How were you guys. 375 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Staring on that? Well, they, I mean it was like 376 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: living in a bubble. They paid for everything, so we 377 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, we were able to. 378 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure in the end they were. 379 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they covered all our living expenses, but they 380 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: were making a lot of money from us, as you 381 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: can imagine over the years. 382 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's we were on p dms. Yes, 383 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: that's true. 384 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 385 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: So what was it like living all together? I think 386 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: it was in the same apartment. But let me know 387 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but like, how did that go and 388 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: how did you guys all manage to get along? Or 389 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: were there times when there was like fighting? Because I mean, 390 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: as we're triplets, so I lived with my two sisters 391 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: for thirty years and we fought like every day, So 392 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it would have been easy living with 393 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: four other girls that you hardly knew. 394 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think we did really well. You 395 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 2: know that. I don't recall a lot of negativity at 396 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: all in the band, not in the first year, not 397 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: really even after Katie left. I'm sure. Yeah, sure there 398 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: were moments of stress and you know, where two personalities 399 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: would clash or whatever, but nothing major, nothing at all, 400 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: nothing that tore us apart or you know, or really 401 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: caused problems. I think it was remarkable really how we 402 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: all sort of got on under such pressure. 403 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 3: When I look back, you know, it was, Yeah. 404 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. What about did anyone steal each other's 405 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: clothes or just the allowance just sorry? 406 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: We were given a lot of free clothes. 407 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: That's good. 408 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: And because we helped but launch Bardow the clothing label, 409 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: they gave us a lot of free clothes, so that 410 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: was cool. Yeah, so that. 411 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Was going to be one of my questions because I 412 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: do recall there was that association with the Bardo clothing line. 413 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming you guys didn't have much say in 414 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: the name of the band. 415 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: No, Sophie and I we we named the band. We 416 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: came up. I sort of had the idea that we 417 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: should be called Hepburn after Audrey Hepburn, and the idea 418 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: of us being named after a beautiful movie actress, like 419 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: someone feminine, someone very well known, and yeah, and Sophie's like, 420 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: what about Bridget Bartow? And then it was Barto, So 421 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: that's that's how it happened. And so yeah, yeah, we 422 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: named us girls. We had a lot of say in everything. 423 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: People think that we were manufactured and in ways yes 424 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: we were, but in a lot of ways it all 425 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: came from us, you know, down to our clothes and 426 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: songs that were released. And yeah, we did have a 427 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 2: say absolutely. 428 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: Oh that's takesful. So did the clothing line come off 429 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: the back of you guys naming the band bud O 430 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: then no. 431 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: So when we went to register bard O the name, 432 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: they obviously we did a search and we found there 433 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: was this little company in Melbourne in a backstreet, unknown, 434 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 2: completely unknown. So we cut a deal with them and 435 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: then they launched and just went all over Australia. They 436 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: were in every single westfield and the Yeah, we basically 437 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: launched their brand and I think our company that owned 438 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: bou and they did a deal with them. But again 439 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: we didn't see any profit from that. That was just 440 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: done between the girls in Melbourne that owned this company, 441 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: Barrow and then yeah and the people that owned Bardo 442 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: the band. So yeah, that's how it happened. 443 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: So you know, you probably can't say too much, but 444 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: you guys are just being screwed left, right and centered 445 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: by the sounds. 446 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah. 447 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: Was that one of the decisions for the split because 448 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, you guys were doing so well and I 449 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: read in an interview you were talking about how disappointed 450 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: you were and how I suppose frustrated it yourself in 451 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: a way for signing the signing the release that. 452 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: Said it was related. 453 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was money a reason for the split. 454 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Were you guys wanting to go Were there some members 455 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: wanting to go their own way? 456 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: If that was the case, I don't know. It was 457 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: never verbalized to me from any of the members, and 458 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: we had actually just restructured everything, so we started to 459 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: make some money finally sort of the last five months 460 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: before the band ended. So no, we were in a 461 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: much better space financially, and we owned our name again. 462 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: They'd given us the name Bardo and yeah, so it 463 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: was all positive. Everything was onwards and upwards. But again 464 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: I go into the details of how it happened, but 465 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: it's it'll all be in my book. 466 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait. When when does your book drop? When? 467 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: When? 468 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: Where can we find it when it's released? 469 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, at this stage, I'm like just finalizing exactly those details, 470 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: so I won't sort of say how and when yet, 471 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: but soon I'll be able to reveal that. 472 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, just back to you guys all living together. We 473 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: recently did an interview with I don't know if you 474 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: watched austraiin Idol, but with Rob Mills who was on 475 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: the first series, and he mentioned that they used to 476 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: sneak out of idle h sorry, out of their idle mansion. 477 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: Did you guys ever manage to sneak out and did 478 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: you have disguises that you'd wear or were you guys 479 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: all pretty good? 480 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Well? I was the only Sydney girl. If I recall 481 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: in the initial stages when we were in that house 482 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: when we were filming pop Stars, and yes, I with 483 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: my car and go and see family and my boyfriend, 484 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, I remember the other girls not so much 485 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: because they didn't have a car and didn't have family 486 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: and friends in Sydney, so they all sort of stuck 487 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: it out in the house most of the time. I 488 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: didn't get out a lot, but I definitely got out. 489 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: And yeah, as far as like disguises and stuff, I 490 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: don't recall that. I just remember things like me being 491 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: on a plane and falling asleep and dribbling and then 492 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: a fan coming up and sort of waking you from 493 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: a really deep sleep, and you know, things like that. 494 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: It was a crazy time, like it was. Yeah, the 495 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: fans were there were lots of fans it that way. 496 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: Did you have any crazy kind of stalker fans or 497 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: was it because it was predominantly women, it was a 498 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: bit more chilled. 499 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: We did have a few. Actually, in Tiffany sent me 500 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: a photo of one the other day, he said, and 501 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: he was in Adelaide and she was like remember him, 502 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: and oh my god, yes, just to his face. 503 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's. 504 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: Right back, guy, you know, nineteen years ago. 505 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: He's probably listening to this right now. 506 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. And then who else, No, nothing, mate, 507 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: We did. We had some girls that really sort of 508 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, would come to our homes and scream and 509 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: you know, drive around the block and blare our music. 510 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: Was no, no, we were twelve, We couldn't drive. 511 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: We did. 512 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: We did go to your appearance at Marion Shopping Center 513 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: and and I remember our mom finally agreed that we 514 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: could go, but that meant that we parked like two 515 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: streets away and then we're like crushed right at the back. 516 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: So we were there, but we didn't really see anything. 517 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: Ye what were those shopping and what were the shopping 518 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: center appearances like? Because even now looking back, I don't 519 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a shopping center so packed out 520 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: for anybody. 521 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were saying there was twenty thousand 522 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: at those ones in the initial stages, you know, the 523 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: initial ones that we did, which you're talking about where 524 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: we went all around the country just off the back 525 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: of the TV show. But yeah, twenty thousand people like 526 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: it was. I do remember that first one we did 527 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: in Paramatta, that just was just on another level, and 528 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: the screaming actually made me want to cry with emotion 529 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: of I don't know, happiness, overwhelm, like I don't even know, 530 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: but I just remember hopping on stage and just feeling 531 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: the energy from the crowd and the screams and just going, 532 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: oh my god, I just want to stand here and cry. 533 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to sing and dance, you know. I 534 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: really remember that feeling. And I had a big lump 535 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: in my throat for that first performance. It's and you 536 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: can't sing with a big lump. 537 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: In your throat. 538 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I have vivid, vivid memories of that performance 539 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: in particular, but yeah, there were so many. 540 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: That's so cool moving on from moving from pop stars. 541 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: So I suppose what you did after Bardo. I read 542 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: online that you were the creative director for Asia's Next 543 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: Top Model in Singapore. Can you tell us a little 544 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: bit about that and how that all came about. 545 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't. No, I was creative director on a show. 546 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: You might might have got that confused. I was creative 547 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: director on a show that I did in Planet Hollywood 548 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: in Vegas, a stage show with female a female review show. 549 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: That was what I was creative director for but for 550 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Asia's Next Next Top Model, I was VIP for events. Yeah, 551 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: just basically working for that company, Iced TV that launched 552 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: one of the series here in Singapore. So yeah, that 553 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: was just that kind of job. But I wasn't not 554 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: creative director for ages nextwork next we ask you that. 555 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for clearing that up. Was it bizarre working 556 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: closely I suppose with another reality TV TV show though. 557 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: No, not really. I mean for me, I just love 558 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: all that, Like I love that industry, and it's the industry, 559 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, anything creative and to do with television and 560 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: stage I'm totally passionate about. So no, it was I 561 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: loved that job. It was great. It was great to 562 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: work behind the scenes actually enjoy what I actually enjoy 563 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: working behind the scenes just as much as in front. 564 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, well. 565 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: We're really not surprised to hear you're an interior designer 566 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: because your Instagram is very esthetically pleasing. Can you tell 567 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about your business House of chapel. 568 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: There's a few house for different things around the world, 569 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: And actually I went when I went to register the name, 570 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: there is a and when I went to put up 571 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: my Instagram as a house of Chapel fashion label in America, 572 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: so it's you know, household. It isn't that you know, 573 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: people have done it before, but I think it's just 574 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: for me. I just I quite like my last name 575 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: and I love that it's my I don't have any 576 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: brothers and sisters, and sorry, I don't have any brothers 577 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: to take on the Chapel to keep the Chapel name, 578 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: you know. So I just thought it was a nice 579 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: ode to my dad and my dad's side of the family, 580 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: and yeah, it just made sense to call it that. 581 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: But I was in London for a few years with 582 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: my husband. He's from Sweden, so that's why I ended 583 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: up on that side of the world living and I 584 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: when I first got there, I had some extra time 585 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: because I was sorting out my work visa. And it 586 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: was just something that I'd always wanted to do. And 587 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: you know, we all have dreams of setting up our 588 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: own businesses and things that we've you know, thought about 589 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: doing and then we don't do it. And I just thought, 590 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: you know what, this is something that I've always wanted 591 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: to do, and I hadn't I didn't go to university, 592 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: So for me, it was a big deal to go 593 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: back and study, and you know, I had I guess. 594 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: I was just like, can I do this? And I 595 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: loved it, absolutely loved it. I just did a diploma 596 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: for a year, but it was fabulous. I loved every 597 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: minute of it. And I actually recently looked into studying 598 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: further to get my bachelor in it. 599 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: But it's so expensive to. 600 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: Get a degree, isn't it. It's just it's yeah, so expensive. 601 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: So and for me, it would just be an achievement 602 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: that I wanted to do for myself. And I thought, 603 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: you know what I can, I can put that money 604 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: into the business. So I decided not to do that. 605 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: But no, that's how it happened. And then I set 606 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: it up organically and we have a house marbe Are 607 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: in Spain, my husband and I, so we that's sort 608 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: of where I opened up that sort of leg of 609 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: the business. And then now I'm in Asia, so yeah, 610 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: I work. I take clients all over the world. Really 611 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: now you can you can do it from anywhere as 612 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: long as you know. Some clients like you to inspect 613 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: the actual be on site and expect inspect the actual location. 614 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: But you can actually do it without seeing it because 615 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: you can send photos, videos, you know, you can order 616 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: from all over the world. You can make things happen 617 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: even if you're not actually their. 618 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: I've got an interior design question for you. It's a 619 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: bit of a personal question because my boyfriend and I 620 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: we've moved in and we do not have the same 621 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: taste at all. How do you work through those problems 622 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: with clients, if someone, for example, because I like really 623 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: modern looking houses and he likes really sort of the 624 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: old wooden style. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you work 625 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: with your work through those kind of problems and find 626 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: a solution. 627 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: I have the same problem with my husband. I mean 628 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: we yeah, absolutely, he's I mean, our tastes aren't two different. 629 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: But then I've definitely got my clear vision of exactly 630 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: what I like and he's got his things that he likes. 631 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: So no, and I think that's really common. But you 632 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: just try and understand both tastes and merge them. And 633 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: I love doing that. I love being able to that's 634 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: a challenge to me, and you know, usually you'll be surprised. 635 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: I always feel like all the different genres of design, 636 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: they you put them together and mix them, and that's 637 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: that's what will make it timeless. You know, if you 638 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: just stick with one trend I find that's when your house, 639 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, in a few years, you'll look at it 640 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: and you'll go, oh, no, like it's it looks out 641 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: of fashion. So I think if you mix dials, and 642 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite things to do, is mix 643 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: the old with the new. 644 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: I feel vintage pieces with some really modern pieces. 645 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I mean to interrupt you. I was gonna say, 646 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: I'll have to. I'll definitely have to hit you up 647 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: when we do move into a new house, because that's 648 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: I feel like we need someone being the mediator, and 649 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: we'll need all your details in our show notes as 650 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: well where people can find you. 651 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: Fantastic, great, Well, thank you. 652 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: So much for joining us. We had so much fun 653 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: going down memory lane with you, and we do appreciate 654 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: your time so much, so thanks so much for talking 655 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: with us. 656 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: No problem at all, my pleasure.