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Speaker 2: They can only mean one thing.

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Speaker 1: We've got a bonus episode.

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Speaker 3: We do, yes, IZI Pro basketballer Kayla George has stopped

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Speaker 3: by just before she lands in Paris for the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Not sure how she managed to fit us in because

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Speaker 1: she lives a pretty hectic life playing for the women's

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Speaker 1: at National Basketball League. She's also mum to beautiful little Pearl,

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Speaker 1: who's flown more flights than any adult I know following

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Speaker 1: her mum across the globe supporter on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: Female pro athletes live pretty hectic lives and sometimes it

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Speaker 3: can be a little bit difficult for them to find

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Speaker 1: Which is why Kayla's story becoming a mother is so special.

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Speaker 1: She was gifted a child by a family member. But

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Speaker 1: this is a story that's not unique to the Torri

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Speaker 1: Strait Islander community.

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Speaker 2: For sure, it's a crazy story. Should we just get

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Speaker 2: straight into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Welcome back to two doting dads and

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Speaker 1: one doting mum. I'm matt a j I'm.

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Speaker 4: Ash and I'm Kayla George.

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Speaker 1: Wow, very well done.

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Speaker 2: Sounds Live with Kayla George.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,

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Speaker 1: it is the bad and the and we never give advice, Kayla.

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Speaker 1: We always say, if you want to advice, stop right

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Speaker 1: now somewhere else, turn the podcast off and run as

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Speaker 1: fast as you can. However, if you like to give

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Speaker 1: any advice, great, If you don't want to give advice.

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Speaker 2: Don't care. Sometimes you accidentally do.

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Speaker 3: Like we find with guests, they always accidentally give some

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Speaker 3: sort of advice that we haven't heard or that people

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Speaker 1: The good thing is people's expectations when they listen to

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Speaker 1: Ash myself, normally they're very low. They're very low.

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Speaker 1: Coming back though, so if you say that you feed

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Speaker 1: feed our too. Okay, I want to go back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning, when you are a young child. I kind

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Speaker 1: of get I don't know if I'm way off the

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Speaker 1: mark here, I kind of get school captain vibes from you.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, what's captain not school captain?

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Speaker 5: Well, no, just the sports captain is the only captain

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Speaker 5: I got in school.

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Speaker 4: Just I think it was the red color me to

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Speaker 1: I was lost in which was yellow?

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Speaker 5: Actually in my first school because I moved a little bit,

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Speaker 5: I was yellow and I was barker.

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Speaker 4: So hey, it was a bit of a there we go.

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Speaker 1: Were you someone who was always very well behave, very studious,

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Speaker 5: So on all of my report cards they would say,

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Speaker 1: I always hate reading a boat my report cards because.

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Speaker 2: The other day I remember, there's no effort.

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Speaker 1: So are you more like your mum or your dad?

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Speaker 5: Oh? My dad got expelled in grade twelve because he

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Speaker 4: But then they saw him running across the opal with.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I don't know if he was a

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Speaker 5: I mean just probably the same as me, like social butterflies,

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Speaker 4: Probably i'd probably be more like my mom.

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Speaker 1: I would say, who was better at sports? You mum

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Speaker 5: My dad was a really good AFL player, but just

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Speaker 5: So dad was pretty sporty, but my mum played for

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Speaker 2: Any sports without a ball? Like him? Long jump? Running?

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Speaker 5: I would do all of that for school, Like to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was like running in flippers, massive size

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Speaker 1: There's a fire, fiery hoops, you have jumps as well.

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Speaker 1: They're always a few kids normally. After that race, did

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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably for a small second, but I was pretty

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Speaker 4: Done your research, and I did very good.

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Speaker 1: I did Detective mat Where were you on February thirteen?

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Speaker 1: How was that for yourself moving around so much? Because

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Speaker 5: It was the norm, so I didn't really think about it,

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Speaker 5: I do remember living in Fiji for four months. That

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Speaker 5: Me and my sister like rocked out Crash Bandicoot and

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Speaker 5: He got us a puppy. We named him Gas. We

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Speaker 2: It was the best life, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: So but no, Fiji was a good time.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't really it was all I knew,

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Speaker 4: It is just kind of in the norm.

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Speaker 1: the mindset of I will always just play sport.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be a basketball player, and that moment

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Speaker 4: I just That's what I'm going to do, Like I'm

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Speaker 4: So I was like hopeful it works out because that's

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Speaker 1: How do you get selected? How does that process work?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, what age did you go to the Intertudent sport?

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Speaker 4: I was fifteen?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen, Wow, young to be away from Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a way for almost three years, three years.

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Speaker 2: I was for three months three.

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Speaker 5: Years for three years and then yeah, started my pro

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like I like that age, like moving

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Speaker 3: away from you know, your support network to go, Like

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Speaker 5: Other people from around the country your age and you'll

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Speaker 4: It's like twelve of us or fourteen of us on

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Speaker 4: scholarship and you all live.

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Speaker 5: In the same building and you kind of just train,

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Speaker 5: go to school together, hang out, go to dining hall together.

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Speaker 2: Everything and how to be an adult.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The hardest part was probably having to do my laundry.

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Speaker 5: But you kind of just figure it out and you're

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Speaker 5: just learning to be a pro. So I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: So when you're fifteen, what would be the older kids age, ah.

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Speaker 4: Like seventeen eighteen, like the ones that were about to graduate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is there like a hierarchy in the camp there?

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Speaker 5: I think from what I remember, I had some pretty

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Speaker 5: so they were pretty good. I've actually one of them

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Speaker 5: Yes, I was about eleven, and my older sister protected

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Speaker 4: And I still think to this day, there's little.

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Speaker 1: Are you still like that?

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Speaker 5: I mean because mum, I know, Mum's pro actually says

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Speaker 4: So maybe guys, a bit of advice for you, you

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a fine line between giving praise

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I was like, yeah, we'll do a drawing, and

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Speaker 4: You anyway?

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Speaker 1: And your partner, Now, how old were you when you

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Speaker 5: So I was twenty two when he was twenty in

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Speaker 4: Knew of him.

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Speaker 2: Were you playing in camps?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was playing for the Dolphins up in Canas.

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Speaker 2: He was playing for the Fins.

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Speaker 4: Out for the album The Team of the Malins, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what eye on for it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So, and then we all were out one night and

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Speaker 5: it's like, how many years later? Thirteen years later, let's care.

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Speaker 4: And then now.

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Speaker 1: Did you actually speak like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, thirteen years later, nine years married, and here

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Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, all let's talk about let's pash, let's panish.

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Speaker 3: How long are we together before he dropped a knee or

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Speaker 3: four years four years.

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Speaker 5: So after that, I think I went to I played

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Speaker 2: Was he working, like what was he doing?

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Speaker 1: Now, so when you guys were doing that long distance period,

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Speaker 5: So the longest we do we ever did a part

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Speaker 5: but I don't recommend long distance. Like long distance is tough,

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Speaker 5: I did say when we first got together, I said,

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Speaker 5: you're in, let's do it. If not, like it's been fun,

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Speaker 5: but please stay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm really happy you see it.

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Speaker 2: Four weeks.

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Speaker 5: I'm really happy you stayed and went along with the journey.

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Speaker 5: It's probably been easy for him either, But yeah, we've

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Speaker 4: It was more just the start that it was a

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Speaker 2: He travels with you full time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's living here, needs me now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what was it about Kylou that you thought, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the one for me, this is

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Speaker 4: That's such a.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: No one's ever asked me that question before. That's wild.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it just kind of like my career, like you

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't like a big ding moment I was

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Speaker 5: It was more just like this is like where our

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Speaker 4: And but god, he makes me angry sometimes.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: I've got the divorce papers already, right, He's all right.

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Speaker 1: If you're not having big arguments every now and then,

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Speaker 1: there's something wrong with your relationship. I love Laura more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't have a.

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Speaker 4: Little even just like what do you want to do?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, blows up.

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Speaker 3: Like you live with someone for long enough, you get

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Speaker 2: And if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that the drop knee was coming after

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I you found the ring?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. And we would drive back.

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Speaker 4: A ring, and it was like have you asked yet?

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Speaker 5: And like it was alvious advertising the jeweler shop in

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Speaker 4: And I'd always look at him like no.

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Speaker 5: We did speak about it, and I knew it was

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Speaker 5: in that particular moment. So we did that, you know,

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Speaker 5: I didn't want it to be around anyone though. I

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Speaker 4: Please never want to look at us, please, like I

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Speaker 2: It was nice.

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Speaker 1: People who do it in a restaurant, all power to you.

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Speaker 1: That's your that's your spot. Then great. I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Where did you do it live on TV?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you?

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Speaker 1: We? We we were on a baby moon with Laura

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Speaker 2: And she's six months pregnant.

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Speaker 1: She's like, just take the fucking photo. And then I

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Speaker 2: As a private moment.

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Speaker 3: What about the guy I did it on the jet

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Speaker 3: Star flight recently on the on the way to bal.

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Speaker 2: He just couldn't wait.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know about that one.

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Speaker 2: It was on the news.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, a place called Twin Peaks. It's like a

451
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Speaker 2: big lookout.

452
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Speaker 3: There were people. The cab driver cried and then he

453
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Speaker 3: was on the phone with his wife.

454
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Speaker 1: Guy, I didn't know I'm going to do it.

455
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Speaker 3: There were some people around. I didn't cry. April cried,

456
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Speaker 3: and the cab driver cried.

457
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Speaker 2: It was beautiful.

458
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Speaker 3: An on the way home because we sat one of

459
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Speaker 3: those places where your best to pay the cab to

460
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Speaker 3: stay so you get back. Otherwise we would have spent

461
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Speaker 3: the night up there like that would have been weird.

462
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 2: It's been freezing.

463
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Speaker 3: But he was like on the way back and he

464
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 3: was like, you were cool as a cucumber on my

465
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 3: bro it was like packing nuggets.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the most nerve wracking.

467
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 2: It's got to be one of the most nervous. For sure,

468
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 2: you can do yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Well we

469
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 2: haven't competed in.

470
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's a different type of nerves.

471
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, good on you guys.

472
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 4: Proud of you both.

473
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Speaker 1: At what point then after you guys and you get

474
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Speaker 1: married first before you then started speaking about kids.

475
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Speaker 4: So interesting time.

476
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 5: That was so Kyle's mum was really sick with cancer

477
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 5: and so we got engaged on the seventeenth of March.

478
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 5: I was about to go to America for my first

479
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,919
Speaker 5: w NBA experience in Phoenix. Training camp started on the

480
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 5: fifteenth of April that year or something, the sixteenth of April.

481
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Speaker 4: So he proposed.

482
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Speaker 5: I was like, well, okay, do you want me to

483
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Speaker 5: do a rush wedding so that your mum makes it

484
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Speaker 5: because we just didn't know how much longer she had

485
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 5: to go. And I was like, I don't know that

486
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 5: she'll make another year because do we wait like blah

487
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 5: blah blah.

488
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 4: So he was like all right.

489
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 5: He took a day or two to think about it,

490
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 5: and he's like, a right, let's do a rush wedding,

491
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, all right, I can do this.

492
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 4: Let's do it. I've got five weeks of plan a

493
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Speaker 4: wedding before I fly out.

494
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 2: Wow, raining shit nuts.

495
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 4: My wedding dress arrived.

496
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 5: We did a sunrise wedding on the eighth of May,

497
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 5: and my wedding dress arrived in.

498
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Speaker 2: The afternoon sunrise.

499
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, at Palm Cove. It arrived at three pm the

500
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 5: day before. I was like, I'm gonna have to go

501
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 5: down the aisle nude like at this one. Anyways, But unfortunately,

502
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 5: his mum didn't quite make the date. She passed away

503
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Speaker 5: on his birthday on the fourteenth of April.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

505
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's okay, thank you.

506
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 5: So but we knew she was, Like we think that

507
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 5: it was enough for her to know that we were

508
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 5: doing that for her. So we felt pretty good about that.

509
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 5: And then so it was his birthday that sucked though,

510
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 5: like like so for Rever now it's like a birthday. Yeah,

511
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 5: but we know she's in a better place, like she's

512
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 5: not in pain anymore. So so yeah, the fourteenth that happened,

513
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 5: and then on the first it was my birthday. The

514
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 5: third of May it was her funeral. The eighth was

515
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 5: our wedding and then I flew out on the twelfth

516
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 5: to training Caniness in Phoenix.

517
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 4: That five week block.

518
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Was nuts amazing.

519
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: How was it getting it getting to Phoenix and then

520
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: just being like what the hell is?

521
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 4: It was my first experience in America.

522
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 5: You've got to really be like mentally super stable to

523
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 5: be in that environment.

524
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: And I did, like I made the team.

525
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 5: Like it was a decent rookie year, but it was

526
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 5: certainly like challenging. Kylie just lost his mom, so he

527
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 5: was over with me for a little bit, but then

528
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 5: you know, went back to be the family a little

529
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 5: bit too, and it was you.

530
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Speaker 4: Know, BASKETBA was a great outlet, but that was a

531
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: lot to go through.

532
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, people like, Heykaylen, how are you? And you're

533
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: like where I started?

534
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: Right, you didn't get any time to decompress, And I don't.

535
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 4: Even know if I really get time ever to decompress.

536
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Them, just like, yeah, I have to ask did the

537
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: dress fit?

538
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

539
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 5: Because I got extra length on it because I'm a behemoth, so.

540
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: Walking down the aisle, so.

541
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Obviously you're focusing on your first season

542
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: in the WNBA. Is there a thor in the back

543
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: of your mind of like when do I want to

544
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: have kids?

545
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yes, as a female athlete, to figure

546
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: out like when am I going to have kids? What

547
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 5: am I willing to miss? Can I get pregnant in

548
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 5: this date so I can be back by this date?

549
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 5: Will I recover in time?

550
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: Will I miss that Olympics because I'm not fit enough?

551
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: That freaks me out to even think of that.

552
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: So well, one thing that surprised me and I didn't

553
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not hugely experienced with basketball, but I was reading

554
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: about you and I was like, holy shit, even as

555
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: an adult, you're traveling so much. But then I realized

556
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: that it's because you don't have an off season.

557
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: Is that right, So somewhere else in the world and play. Yeah,

558
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: there's not really.

559
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 5: An off season for female BASKETA players. We play all

560
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 5: year round. Like the NBA guys have the luxury to

561
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: have that big off season. They get paid a lot

562
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 5: more money than we do. We're pretty blessed, but we're

563
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 5: not like what they are.

564
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: Can't even compare. There's a way to go in that space.

565
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 5: But yes, we do play back to back to back seasons.

566
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Speaker 5: My first break in ten years was the COVID year

567
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 5: because I had a soul.

568
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's like even some of like domestic

569
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: men's players here they play for like second tier.

570
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: Teams like in Canns or darworn in.

571
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: Something Marlins, And you've caught me to time where it's

572
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: like Olympic prep, So it's nuts. Like I go to

573
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Speaker 5: Japan on Monday for six days, and then I go

574
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 5: to Melbourne to play China again for a series, and

575
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 5: then I go to Spain for a pre Olympic tournament,

576
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 5: and then I go to Paris and then I'm back

577
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 5: for a bit.

578
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Speaker 1: So what are you thinking, Like I won't get to

579
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: have kids until I've finished playing.

580
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 5: That's a really great question, honestly, Like I've thought of

581
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 5: every scenario. And after the World Cup in twenty eighteen,

582
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 5: we want a silver medal.

583
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: That was really exciting.

584
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 5: Kyle and I decided to try and have kids. So

585
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: as a female athlete and I it'll be tm I.

586
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: But if you guys like.

587
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: Go for it.

588
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about periods.

589
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: Is that all right?

590
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 5: I was hoping here period So I was on the

591
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 5: pill from sixteen to five and I wanted to stop

592
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: it because I read an article about it. I was like, oh,

593
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: I don' want to do this to my body anymore.

594
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: And I don't really remember what my natural period look like.

595
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: So I stopped. I didn't bleed for four years. Not healthy? Yeah,

596
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: it's not healthy?

597
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: Can I can? I ask what would be a normal period?

598
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: What would be?

599
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: Sorry, man.

600
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Would be that was the wrong word. It will be

601
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: a normal time frame from when you stop taking the

602
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: pill to when you start getting your period.

603
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: So for some women it can happen straight away. For

604
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 5: someone it can take a few months, but four years is.

605
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: Not normal at all.

606
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: Like to not have any type of bleed is not normal.

607
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 5: And then I'm an athlete as well, so the stress

608
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: and pressure I'm putting on my body, like it's a lot.

609
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: In that four year period where you're not getting your period?

610
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: What do you do?

611
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: Then?

612
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: Do you go to your GP?

613
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: Saving money on tampons?

614
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: So how freaked out are you?

615
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 4: Well?

616
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 5: I was kind of just like, all right, no bleeding

617
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 5: one year, two years, and I'd speak to my team doctors.

618
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: One doctor in America was like, you're not drinking enough

619
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: chocolate milk.

620
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: I was like, what.

621
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 4: Less? I don't think that's right, that's not.

622
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: That's so random. Do they have an explanation to that, just.

623
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: Like I think you should drink more choco was like.

624
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 2: Okay, done so much normally.

625
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would just speak to my team doctors

626
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: and then eventually they were like, oh, it's okay, like

627
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 5: just you know, keep keep on, you know, and I

628
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: just guess after four years, I was like, I think

629
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: I need to see someone like a specialist, and yeah.

630
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I had a chocolate.

631
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: I had a specialist say that I had an issue

632
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: like when I would opulate, they wouldn't drop at the

633
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: right time. That just kind of hang out, and so

634
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 5: I needed to do it was like one tenth of

635
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: what ivf uses use like in a treatment, and so

636
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 5: it made me supernautious.

637
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: I was playing BASKETBALLND you this whole time.

638
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: I was that is that includes like instill injecting yourself.

639
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was injecting myself for however long. I think

640
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: it was like three or four weeks I was injecting myself.

641
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: So I was playing like I'm in the middle of

642
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: a season here.

643
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: This was just to get your period back?

644
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: Is that right now?

645
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 5: Now, I'll get that hold on one second. And so

646
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: then I did this treatment lady with helsband test a

647
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: few weeks later, not pregnant. They did say it can

648
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: take two or three rounds and there's a high chance

649
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 5: of multiples.

650
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 4: I was but in saying that it didn't work.

651
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: And then I didn't know that COVID was going to

652
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: happen and that the Tokyo Olympics would be delayed a year.

653
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 5: So if I knew all that ahead of time, maybe

654
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: maybe would have done a couple more rounds. But I

655
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 5: didn't because I didn't want to interview with my Tokyo

656
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 5: prep and I was nervous, and I was nauseous for

657
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: like five months because of the treatment. And I was

658
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: drinking lemons into tea all season because I just was

659
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: nauseous all the time. I just feel sy because I mean,

660
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: I'm pumping myself with this hormones like.

661
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Trying to like train and play basketball.

662
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: I would like have lemon and ginger tea on the

663
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 4: sidelines that award, Like it was wild.

664
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, do you have to say to the coach, like, hey,

665
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm not playing as well because of this. Did you

666
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: find that it noticeably impacts how well you're playing?

667
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: So I honestly don't think it affected me on court.

668
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: I think I just like switch into gear and I

669
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 5: just figure it out.

670
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: I thought.

671
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, this is horrendous. How

672
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: do people do this? I was doing one tenth the

673
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 5: vibf like nuts. But from that treatment, I got my period,

674
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 5: So that was a surprise. I didn't expect that at all,

675
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: But thank goodness because now I've had regular periods since then.

676
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: But I do notice that if I'm at.

677
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: A big tournament or an Olympics or a World carp

678
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: or a stressful final series or something, that my period's

679
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: delayed one or two weeks.

680
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 4: But it's relatively normal now, which is a huge relief.

681
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: So did you plan then if you did get pregnant,

682
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: Were you looking ahead at taking a year off sport

683
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: or what?

684
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 5: Was you I was going to come back as quickly

685
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: as possible to prep for the Tokyo Olympics. So in

686
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: my head I was like, all right, I'll if I

687
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: can fall pregnant around Christmas time twenty eighteen, then I

688
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: have Bubba then and then I'll have enough time at

689
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 5: least a year before the Tokyo Olympics to really prepare.

690
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: But it doesn't work like that.

691
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: You can't just you know, a lot of times you

692
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: can't pinpoint a date I'm going to fall pregnant on.

693
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: This date so they can have a Yeah, totally.

694
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: Right, And that's I mean, as athletes, it's like really

695
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: ideal to be able to do that, but you can't

696
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: do that. And so I when the treatment didn't work

697
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 5: come end of Jane Fair, I was like, well, I'll

698
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: just have to wait for another time. And then since

699
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: then it's just been like, like my whole career, I'm

700
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: going back to back seasons and then what do I missing?

701
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: But now I'm in more of a headspace that you know,

702
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: I'm thirty five.

703
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: I do want to give some siblings to Pearly, And look,

704
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: I'm not in a rush rush to like has to

705
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: be straight uf the Olympics. I'm still signed with Sydney.

706
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: I still feel like I've got really great basketball left

707
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: to play. But I'm just more relaxed about it.

708
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: When you sort of got close to that time when

709
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: the Olympic prep was coming up and you decided that

710
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: You're going to have to try another time, do you

711
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: remember how that felt?

712
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Do you remember how you felt?

713
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: I felt like a failure.

714
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 5: But then it was conflicting because I was like, I'm

715
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: a failure because I couldn't feel pregnant and I can't

716
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: do it naturally.

717
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: I have to do it this way.

718
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: But then if I was a failure and that I

719
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: better not fail in that, so I better make that

720
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 5: team and train really well.

721
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: It was all this pressure building on yourself.

722
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, wow, okay, and then you go into Tokyo prep.

723
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: The way that Pearl was conceived and you've come to

724
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: be a mum is so unique. Can you talk us

725
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: through when you made that decision or how the conversation

726
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: started to go down that that we were just talking

727
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: about it before. Matt and I are like, how do

728
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: you put that on the table, like, talk us through

729
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: it if you don't mind, of course, of course.

730
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: Ky Lute.

731
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: My husband is a Toaster Islander and it's really common

732
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: in Ireland culture to gift babies to other family members

733
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: that are struggling to have their own children, and they

734
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: truly believe that when they do that, they get their

735
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: own after they have their own after which happens a lot.

736
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: You're not Tori straight Island background.

737
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: No, not just my husband, although my husband did think

738
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: I was feed part fore GM when we first met,

739
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: so I was like, just you listen to what I'm saying. So, yeah,

740
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: when I first started dating Kylou, I met his family,

741
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 5: and I knew that a couple of his nieces, his sister,

742
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: had a couple of babies and she gifted her second

743
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: one to his mum. They lived in the same house,

744
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: so I knew of the concept of what you know

745
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 5: it was about. They call it custom island adoption. There

746
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: is an island name for it, but I'll just give

747
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 5: you the English name. And so, yeah, it's very common

748
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 5: and it's the highest form of respect in their culture

749
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 5: to gift it.

750
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nina, my sister in law, she knew my story.

751
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 5: She knew I've been trying and I'd wanted to have babies,

752
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: and I would have had two kids by now if

753
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, easy to pick a time.

754
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: And you know, it's just not been that easy for

755
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: me with a lot of different reasons, with the period

756
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 5: stuff and being an athlete and wanting to miss events.

757
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: But so after the real Olympic she sat me down with.

758
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: Kylie's older sister and Kylo and she said, look, we'd

759
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: love to gift you a baby at some point when

760
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: the time's right for everyone.

761
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Holy wow, I was like, oh, my.

762
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: Gosh, huge, amazing.

763
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't overwhelmed with it because I knew of the

764
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: practice in the culture, so I was like, oh, my gosh,

765
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 5: is if you do that?

766
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: I was like, oh wow. I was more overwhelmed that,

767
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: like it could have been happening like soon.

768
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, when you were struggling to fullbring it,

769
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: did you think, hey, this may be an option.

770
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: No, Kylon never really spoke about it, but I did

771
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: speak to his sister Nino about it a fair bit.

772
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: So it was always like kind of in my mind, like, oh,

773
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 5: that that could be an option. But I really do

774
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: hope to still one day be able to hold a

775
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: baby and still like a baby myself.

776
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: But if this is our.

777
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: Only option, that's really cool too, Like what a blessing.

778
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: And so, yeah, I guess what year are we now,

779
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. I guess At the start of yeah,

780
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, we just finished our Boomers season in Melbourne.

781
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: I was playing for Melbourn Boomers.

782
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: And I went home and held like a big gathering

783
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 5: from Kyler's family life only in my house in cans

784
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: And my sister Nina was like, Taylor, I mind weeks pregnant,

785
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 5: and I was like, wild, But she's like, if it's

786
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: a boy, we're going to keep it because we've only got

787
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: the one boy. But if it's a girl, we want

788
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: to gift it to you. And I was like, oh, like,

789
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 5: when's the when's the test? When do we know what

790
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: it is?

791
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: They would have been trying and stuff without you knowing, yeah,

792
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: and then obviously.

793
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Knowing that they wanted to give to you a baby.

794
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: But then them saying, hey, we're nine weeks pregnant is

795
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: as big as shock to you as it is to

796
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: the rest of the family.

797
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: I suppose, right, Yeah, No.

798
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: It was a bit of a shock, but I really

799
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 5: wanted to see what sex it was going to be

800
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 5: because they were going to keep the boy because they'd

801
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: only had one son and they wanted another son. I

802
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: was like, that's totally fair, Like it's your child, even if.

803
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: You don't want to give me, so you're still there's

804
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: still like fifty to fifty.

805
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. So as soon as we were able to be

806
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: got the test done, the doctor's exact words, but oh no,

807
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: that's a hamburger.

808
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: That's not a sausage, and that's a hamburger. I was like, oh,

809
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: is that the official that the.

810
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Medical term for it, because it's the same doctor that's reckoned.

811
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: I was, how funny.

812
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: So yeah, after that, after we found out the gender,

813
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: then we kind of just got into like, mind you

814
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: I'm preparing for a World Cup, like a major event

815
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: while I'm preparing to be a mum and so you know,

816
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: just telling my family and the close friends that I had,

817
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: and they're like, what, like they weren't really aware of

818
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: the culture side of all. I don't really I hadn't

819
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: spoken about, you know, how their family do that before,

820
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: so people kind of took a second to let it

821
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: sink in.

822
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I think it's beautiful. But when

823
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: you first hear about it, you're like, because it's so

824
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: different Western culture would be.

825
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: I know, it's kind of like I didn't think it

826
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: was that was the thing. And there'd be so many

827
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: people listening right now that would be especially men. Yea,

828
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: they would be like I never thought that that would be.

829
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: There was a lot of situ Yeah, really when I posted,

830
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: when it came out, there'd been articles written or whatever.

831
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: There was a lot of troll comings of just people

832
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: that just had no open mind or no idea, like

833
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 5: and that's fine, Like, that's.

834
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: Social media these days. You can't do anything people. I

835
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: don't know that you get troll comments to this pod

836
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: us though.

837
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Normally it's just like you guys swear too much.

838
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, we made front of a dentist and then

839
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: people came after us.

840
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: We love the dentists and doctors technically events, but.

841
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: Anyway, assuming that you'd have a bit of a thick

842
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: skin playing professional sport, copying heat from people, we'll still.

843
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 5: Get to you sometimes though if you let it. There's

844
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff, and it can be pretty debilitating

845
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: when you're not in a confident headspace because we've always

846
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: got to maintain a confidence level to be able to

847
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 5: perform and play under pressure. I don't know what life

848
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: is like to not have pressure like basketball pressure. And

849
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: if I finish one tournament, it's like one game will

850
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 5: then what's next. There's always pressure for the next thing.

851
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: So I think when I retire in years to come,

852
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: because I feel like I've got a good chunky years

853
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: left in me, I can't wait to feel like what

854
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 5: life's like with no pressure basketball pressure.

855
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: So I just it's boring over here.

856
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: Seventy yeah, So once we back to the pearl train

857
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 5: of events, so once you know, it got closer to

858
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: the time I had the World Cup.

859
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 4: We won a bronze medal in Sydney. We beat Canada

860
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: in the bronze medal game. Nine days later, I'm in

861
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: the theater with Nina Wow, getting pearly.

862
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: I was really nervous about the connection piece. I was

863
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: really nervous, like about everything. It was just in what way, well,

864
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 5: because I hadn't held I hadn't, you know, actually been

865
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: growing her in my belly. So I was really nervous

866
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: about yeah, the connection, but skinner skin straight.

867
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: Away was with me and it was beautiful. Yeah, yeah,

868
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: not the skin.

869
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 5: I held her straight away then, like when we went

870
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 5: to the recovery redeal, skin on skin, which was really beautiful.

871
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: But I was also really nervous and felt really guilty

872
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: for taking away Nina's baby.

873
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: And she said to me.

874
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 5: In the recovery room, she said, I, I've actually been

875
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 5: holding her for you this whole time. She's not been

876
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: my baby this entire time, She's been yours, and I've

877
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: just been looking after it for you.

878
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Connected from that, yes, I suppose you've got her.

879
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought that.

880
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: I mean, we're really close me and Ninna, so we

881
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: talk a lot and we've got a really great relationship.

882
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: I guess you kind of have to be able to

883
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: do this, but yeah, she was actually just down in

884
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: Sydney last week with her four year old son, so

885
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: that was really great for Pearl and Nicholas.

886
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: To be able to have a play.

887
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was a really I almost would like

888
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: cry anytime, Like when we had to leave the hospital

889
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: and she went to her house and.

890
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: We went to ours and I took Pearl.

891
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 5: I was so emotional because I felt this huge guilt

892
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 5: that I didn't anticipate once we had Pearl into the world,

893
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 5: that I was taking.

894
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: Her away from Nina. Yeah, so I had to kind

895
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: of overcome. Nea would laugh at me.

896
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, so she had already kind of done

897
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: it in her Yea.

898
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: How do you explain the situation with Nina to the

899
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: medical staff during childbirth?

900
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was certainly in the theater, they were all beautiful,

901
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 5: they all understood, And I guess in the kNs hospital

902
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: there might be more accustomed to this type of thing happening,

903
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: maybe more from an islander to an islander not so

904
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 5: much from an islander to a white woman. But they

905
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: were really great in the theater. And then in the

906
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 5: days after that, while we're in the hospital, you know,

907
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: the doctors and the nurses would come in and they'd

908
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: direct their talk to Nina and she'd be like, oh, no,

909
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: this is the mom here and they'd be like, oh, okay.

910
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: So that asked me questions. That was like, oh, this

911
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: is exciting.

912
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: And then one time a social worker came in to

913
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 5: ask Serena if she was really sure that she wanted

914
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: to give up her baby, and it was quite alarming,

915
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: and I felt a little offended that they thought I

916
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 5: was just like stealing her baby when you know that

917
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: wasn't the case at all. And Serena, I think Chuckwood,

918
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: it was like, yep, all good, God, I don't know

919
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: if this worker was really aware of the you know,

920
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: the culture and the situation, and that's fair, she's doing

921
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: her job.

922
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: But I was a bit.

923
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: Like, oh, like thinking like putting some doubt anyone.

924
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, well what are you doing? And

925
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: Serena just laughed.

926
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: I was like no, no, all good, Like that was

927
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 5: the extent of the convos. So yeah, that definitely made

928
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: me feel some type way, but I get where she

929
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: was coming from on her angle, but I was like, no,

930
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 5: that's my girl.

931
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: We talked about that connection with Pearl. Did you feel

932
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: like a mom straight away when you're holding her in You're.

933
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: The feeling was just super surreal, it was I don't

934
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 5: know that in that moment I was like, I'm a mum.

935
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: I think it was just like, oh my.

936
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 5: Gosh, this is who I have to look after, this

937
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 5: is my life now, Like it was, the word mom

938
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: didn't really come into like probably we were at home

939
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: and I was in my environment where I was more

940
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: relaxed than I really felt like. I was so nervous

941
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 5: even change her first napping in the hospital.

942
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: It's petrified.

943
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then everyone's watching and you're.

944
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and you feel like you can you do

945
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: it right. You need to feel like you need to

946
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: be instantly the best at it.

947
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: You're like yeah, yeah, so and the first ones were

948
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: gross per as well.

949
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the black time.

950
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: It's like the Hamburger. Yeah.

951
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: So I think days after year, once I was home,

952
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: I was way more relaxed and felt like a mum

953
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: once I was in my own space.

954
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: This excuse my ignorance, What's the legalities of all this.

955
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like twenty twenty.

956
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty, Queensland the government finally passed a bill that

957
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: allowed the Torristrait Island adoption to become legal. So we

958
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: went through there's a Commission's office with Tosia Island people

959
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 5: that were there to allow this to legally or kind

960
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: of bind, and so we formally applied to adopt her

961
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 5: through the custom Island adoption. So essentially when that is approved,

962
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: it comes back and we are the names on her

963
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 5: birth certificate and her first one becomes null and voids.

964
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 5: So the birthertificate where the parents. So then we choose

965
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: if we tell her or not, because sometimes it can

966
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 5: get a bit complex, like later in life if there's

967
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: a child that's been adopted through the island ways.

968
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 4: And it's not been legally done, then when their adults.

969
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: They go to get their birth certificate or their passport

970
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 5: and their parents aren't matching up to the names that

971
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: they thought, so it could be quite conflicting. So in

972
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: the island community and because in culture too, especially with

973
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: the elders. If you know, they say this is your baby,

974
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 5: I'm having your baby, bit it's yours, Like once it's

975
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 5: been given like that's you don't talk about it like

976
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: it's done, like that's your baby.

977
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

978
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: So it can be quite challenging for some of the

979
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: adults that have been all and adopted like now to

980
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: get things like I just said, But so we did

981
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 5: it all eagerly only because that bill has been passed recently,

982
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: so a lot of people as adults are coming out

983
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 5: now to try and get it sort of now.

984
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: It can be quite complex. So yeah, we are the

985
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: names on.

986
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: The birth certificate, and we will tell her okay, when

987
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: the time is right. I've been thinking about it a

988
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: bit more lately as she's getting old. I'm like, oh gosh,

989
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 5: she's going to be an interesting one. Do I tell

990
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: her that she grew in that stomach with Nina Mama?

991
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 4: Or like, how do I tell her? How do we

992
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 4: start that dialogue?

993
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 5: But I think I do want to say, like, you know,

994
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: with Auntie Nina's belly, like you grew in there, Like

995
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: I don't know, while she's a little bit young to

996
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 5: try and get the plan if you see us.

997
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Too many basketball analogies.

998
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: That advice giving me advice.

999
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 5: So it'd be an interesting time. And I'm a bit

1000
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: nervous for that time, like will she be angry at me?

1001
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 5: Will she be angry at Auntie Nina? Like will she

1002
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 5: be all right with it? So I'm nervous for that time.

1003
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 5: But I mean, she's such a happy kid, and I

1004
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 5: just some trying to do my best raising her, trying

1005
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: to teach her language, trying to teach her culture, like

1006
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 5: her dad's a tryst Triolgus and we speak a bit

1007
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 5: of broken English in the house of we within thirteen

1008
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 5: years so I understand it, we speak it. So hopefully

1009
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: she picks up a lot and you know, has a

1010
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: great feeling of her culture.

1011
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. How was it then in the first few months,

1012
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: did you find it was instant that you and Pearl

1013
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: connected with each other?

1014
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1015
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: I felt there was the breastfeeding thing too. So I

1016
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: just played at a World Cup. So before that, they

1017
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 5: were like, do you want to take tablets to lactate?

1018
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, well, I'm preparing for a

1019
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: World Cup. This is kind of conflicting. I don't want

1020
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 5: to be leaking at the World Cup, so I chose

1021
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 5: not to. And I was like, is that selfish? But

1022
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 5: people like no, no, that's fine. Serena breastfed for a

1023
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: little bit too, and then gave us some milk and

1024
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: then we would bottle feed her as well with formula,

1025
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: so she was a bit of a mixed and she

1026
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: went to the bottle fine. And then yeah, it wasn't

1027
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: really an issue. But that really made me nervous too,

1028
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 5: the connection piece with the feeding and stuff. But honestly,

1029
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: like I didn't even think about it after the like,

1030
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: after that first bit of fear, then I just got

1031
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: on with it.

1032
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: You just I mean, you guys got newborns, you know

1033
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: what it's like. You just kind of just knuddle in

1034
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: and get old it, trying.

1035
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: To keep treading every Yeah.

1036
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so but I definitely felt connected, but.

1037
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: It took me probably a little bit to like really like, oh,

1038
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: I'm a mum now.

1039
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1040
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: It just took me a bit too, because I didn't

1041
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: have the nine month experience of preparation wise, and then

1042
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: I felt like I cheated motherhood. Yeah, because I didn't

1043
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: give give birth myself and mums are recovering and doing this.

1044
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: I was like, man, that's nice.

1045
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

1046
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Ash and I were talking before, I know, with Laura

1047
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: after she'd given birth, when she would speak to other

1048
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: moms instantly like, wow, how was the birth, How long

1049
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: was labor?

1050
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: What was it like? Did you have an epidural a

1051
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: bonding moment?

1052
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had they shared trauma, which really bonds you

1053
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: to other people. How was it for yourself speaking to

1054
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: other moms where you don't have that experience of holding

1055
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: the baby, you don't have the childbirth story to tell.

1056
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was interesting because I mean she was nine

1057
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: days old when I flew out to Melbourne to start

1058
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: my season, so people were like, oh, you're back already,

1059
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: and I'd.

1060
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 4: Be like sometimes.

1061
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'd be like oh yeah, an other times I'd

1062
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: be like, actually, here's the story, like just a little

1063
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: dop pointed story. WHOA Like that's wild, but yeah, it's

1064
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 5: pretty crazy, pretty like surreal like that. People like, what

1065
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: a beautiful gift. And then other other times people be like,

1066
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 5: she's got a rash on her neck and I'm like,

1067
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 5: that's a bit rude.

1068
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, she has like.

1069
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: A bit of neck, and people think they could just

1070
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: tell me.

1071
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: That you might be doing wrong.

1072
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: Let me get some pseudo cream.

1073
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: And then how is it trying to still be an

1074
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: athlete while she've got a newborn child and you're now

1075
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: a mum.

1076
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty well, but thankfully, like we touched

1077
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: them before a little bit.

1078
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, newborn's they just sleep eat sleepy, Like you know,

1079
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 5: while I'm training, she's in the prem lot just having

1080
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 5: her little mid morning nap, and then i'd have like

1081
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 5: my trainers on my manage is just like helping you cry.

1082
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 5: So that she was really good in my first season,

1083
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna lie. She was a real blessing.

1084
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 5: She slept really well for a newborn. Like I was

1085
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: up twice night, sometimes three. But one of my best games,

1086
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: I had like a triple double. And I don't like

1087
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: to toot my own home, but like this time.

1088
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: People who aren't familiar, triple double is.

1089
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 5: That's double figured stats in three different statistical readows. Yeah.

1090
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: So I had like thirty something thirty one points, like

1091
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: eleven assists and ten rebounds, so we'd beat Adelaide. But

1092
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: I was running off four hours sleep, Like that was

1093
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: my worst night the night before that game.

1094
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: That's the key.

1095
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 5: That's the key, Like adrenaline just took over my first shots.

1096
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 5: For my first eight shots of the game, I missed eight.

1097
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: I was zero eight.

1098
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Judge.

1099
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: I had four hours sleep. Anyways, that ended.

1100
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: Up being a Cracker game and you know, triple double

1101
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: and we won, so it was great. It was a

1102
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: close gamevas Adelaide, but I ended up winning EP that.

1103
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: Season, which is wild to me.

1104
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild?

1105
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: Like Yeah, and a lot of the time, yeah, it was,

1106
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: you know, raising a newborn.

1107
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: There was footage I saw on YouTube. I don't know

1108
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: if it was a game or if it was training,

1109
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: but there's a team huddle on the court and you're

1110
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: there holding pearl and I was, and everyone's kind of

1111
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: talking through tactics and you're listening in and you're holding Bove.

1112
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I was like, does that happen often?

1113
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't want her now, she'd talk

1114
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: too much. I couldn't.

1115
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, when she was a newborn, if she was settled, yeah,

1116
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: I would do it a fair bit, just like I

1117
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: just wanted to hold her all the time.

1118
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: I just wanted her.

1119
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: You have her on the court walk through or something around.

1120
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, free game. I was like, there was footage you're

1121
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: shooting a three pearl in one arm.

1122
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 5: She's definitely like a little baller baby. She has just

1123
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 5: been in every different environment in America, in Taiwan.

1124
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: In Australia, I think you said you took fourteen flights

1125
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: in fourteen months in the first fourteen months something crazy.

1126
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 5: No, I think now since we've been in America, I

1127
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 5: think she's probably closer to like maybeing one hundred and

1128
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: ninety to two hundred.

1129
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Flights platinum whatever.

1130
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: I don't give her when you don't pay for her.

1131
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Actually do Yeah, that's like I'm silver what.

1132
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: She definitely would be up there, But no, they don't

1133
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 5: give her crazy.

1134
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: I hate my kids on a flight, no offense kids.

1135
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: She's pretty like she moves a lot now.

1136
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 5: And I was going to say, at training last year

1137
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 5: in Sydney, I put her in like a little play

1138
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: pain with a bunch of stuff to get creative and whatever.

1139
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 4: And at the start of the season it was great.

1140
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 5: She'd stand there for like the ninety minutes, and then

1141
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: just towards the end she'd get a bit restless to

1142
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: come out, and so like we'd almost be finished, so

1143
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 5: I'd go get her out or whatever. But at the

1144
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: end of the season, she'd start piling them up and

1145
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: then make.

1146
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: Your way up that pile to try and crawl out

1147
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: like she was like done. So this season.

1148
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 5: My mom's going to come down and help look after

1149
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 5: her because I can't have her a practice this season.

1150
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: She would just be running a much. She just wants

1151
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: to do.

1152
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: They just get to that age that ache I can

1153
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: move now, yeah, my own person, and she throw.

1154
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: Her toys onto the court like sorry.

1155
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: With those flights, I think every parent out there has

1156
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: got a story where it hasn't really gone to plan.

1157
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: Have you had any flights that have been a bit

1158
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: of a total disaster.

1159
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: So we were coming back from Perth. We just had

1160
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: a game in Perth, heading to Sydney. A few hours

1161
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 5: left on the flight, and I always restock my travel

1162
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 5: nappy bag always because we're on the move so much.

1163
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: Every time we get back from some of the first

1164
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 5: thing I do is restock the nappy bag.

1165
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: Didn't restock at this time. What an idiot.

1166
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 5: So she's done a massive whopper. And so I was

1167
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: sitting next to this lovely.

1168
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Nurse and classic hamburger.

1169
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: So I get up to get nappy bag. I was like,

1170
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I haven't restocked. This is horrendous bit

1171
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 4: of three hours ago. She's done like.

1172
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: Over the outside, like at all, no, she had I

1173
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 5: had not none no.

1174
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: No spense, no spence.

1175
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so and stang. I was like, oh my god,

1176
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 5: this is rank and the nurse.

1177
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 4: Is like, oh, I just used two sanitary pads. I

1178
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh. And then the lady behind

1179
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: I was like, am I in a movie? The lady

1180
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: behind I was like, I've got one?

1181
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: This is like.

1182
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: And then I got her one and then another one

1183
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: from the air hosties, and then I stuck them together

1184
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 5: and made this makeshift like nappy, so Kimby and Toshi

1185
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 5: which said Kimby nappy. And then it was not great

1186
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: and obviously that's not really meant for lots of liquid.

1187
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: So much yeah, so much liquid, right.

1188
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 5: And so we sat back down and maybe twenty thirty

1189
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 5: minutes like it was soaking.

1190
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: I was soaking.

1191
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: We were all just like a puddle. She just decided

1192
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 5: to wear yourself everywhere. That was fine, Like, it's totally fine.

1193
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 5: A couple more pads from all the air hostes.

1194
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: Round two. It lasted till we got home. But I

1195
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: mean that was not It's not terrible, but you know.

1196
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: When there was no other babies on the flight at all,

1197
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: you could have.

1198
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I was at the back of the fly.

1199
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 5: I don't even I didn't even think of that. We

1200
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 5: just had the pads and just kind of made it.

1201
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: Just made make it work.

1202
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 5: Sorry for the time we got home, but hey, it's

1203
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: not the best parenting, just make it work.

1204
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: She was comfortable.

1205
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: It is strange as a parent, how quickly you become

1206
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: totally comfortable being covering other people's feces.

1207
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this kid's showing me well anyway, so back to it.

1208
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, yeah, but that was I mean, that was okay,

1209
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: like you just kind of you can't do anything in

1210
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 5: that moment. She's projectile vomited on someone before too in

1211
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: a plane, and she was like it's okay. I My

1212
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 5: mom was like goodness, like with the person next year,

1213
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, like a whole milk, I know.

1214
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: And if they're not a parent, they're just like completely mortified.

1215
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 5: And I ask you, guys a question, No, what's the

1216
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: have you ever seen next to I went on a

1217
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: flight that's like made it like a condescending comment about

1218
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 5: kids on a plane.

1219
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: It's probably been me. To be honest, I haven't shut

1220
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: that thing up.

1221
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh really I haven't, thankfully I haven't.

1222
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: My kids haven't been on one hundred and ninety two flights,

1223
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm assuming. And then also in America, they haven't been

1224
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: to America, and you see all these videos that come

1225
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: out online. It's an American Yeah, yeah, give us what

1226
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: you've got.

1227
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: What's happening.

1228
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 5: Oh, just one time, I had a guy on a

1229
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: flight and then the air hostly moved him because of this.

1230
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 4: But he just made a comment like, oh, this is

1231
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: gonna be fun like this, and I.

1232
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: Was like, Oh, that's not really that bad that he

1233
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: said that, but I was like still annoyed because.

1234
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: It's like relax the one that has to hold.

1235
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: And then the air.

1236
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 5: Host, you like, walked past and heard it and then

1237
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 5: moved him. I was like, bye, now I've got.

1238
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. There is one flight in particular, and

1239
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: luckily I was I was so fortunate that people around

1240
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: me were being legends. It was the first time i'd

1241
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: flew with Marley by myself, and I was as a

1242
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: new dad, still kind of figuring it out, and and

1243
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: she just started being on the bottle as well, so

1244
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this. And then midway through

1245
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: the flight, she just started screaming like she was being murdered,

1246
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: with a blood curdling screams full volume, and I'm like

1247
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: trying everything. I'm like trying the bottle, doesn't want to

1248
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: change nappy. Fine, I'm like standing up and you know,

1249
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: trying to comfort her that nothing was working at all,

1250
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: and like this baby is just screaming on stop. Everyone

1251
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: around me was like, dude, it's totally fine, like it's

1252
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: not a problem. And I'm like it's those situations as

1253
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: a parent that like, I don't want to have a

1254
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: screaming tran.

1255
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this weird sweat sweat the back of.

1256
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: My knees, driven from the back of my knees.

1257
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: People are like not worried about the baby, but you.

1258
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Everyone's slipping over around me.

1259
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: But it's like it's so comforting when people are like

1260
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: it is cool because when you're not a parent, like

1261
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: growing up and you're on a flight and you see

1262
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: kids screaming, like but then as soon as you're a parent,

1263
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: you're like feel so bad that even I don't know

1264
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: what it is when a baby cries near me on

1265
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: an aeroplane, I get the knee sweats. It's not even

1266
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: my kid, I'm like it it's want to help you.

1267
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: Somehow do you carry spear pants when you.

1268
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: Travel ye, sweatpants. It's okay, I have sweaty knees. Whatever,

1269
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: But I notice about ash.

1270
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: We're learning so much.

1271
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: Next there's a screaming baby. Just let me touch back

1272
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: your good luck.

1273
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 5: You do get some eyes though, that not everyone's like

1274
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 5: really happy about it, you know, like for the most part,

1275
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: it's alright, but sometimes you get eyes.

1276
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: You're like, well, what do you want to do about it?

1277
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

1278
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: You're probably taller than them, so stand over them.

1279
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if they stood up, I'd let them know, bitch.

1280
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: So now you are thirty five.

1281
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 4: Lackluck, I'm twenty one.

1282
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: There any good way you want to have a bigger family?

1283
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: Would love to He'd love another child and another dog.

1284
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

1285
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gidding out. Got four already and just timing wise.

1286
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: What does it look like for you in terms of

1287
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: growing your family and giving Pearl another brother or sister.

1288
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really great question. I've signed on for

1289
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 5: another two years with Sydney. I've signed a three year deal,

1290
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: so I've got two more years in my deal.

1291
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I don't know what that looks

1292
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 4: like for me after these Olympics. Is that my last one.

1293
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 5: I don't know, like, is that my last big event

1294
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 5: with the Opens, I'm not sure. I don't like to

1295
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: close any door officially. Fully, my focus right now is

1296
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: just the Olympics and just that. Only after that, though,

1297
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 5: there is a Sydney season, and yeah, do I try

1298
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 5: and fall pregnant within that season and then back before

1299
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 5: the next one?

1300
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: You know?

1301
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 5: Can I can I finish that one being a couple

1302
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 5: months pregnant and then play the next one too, like there's.

1303
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: My athlete mind, you know?

1304
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 5: Or do I have to wait till they're both finished

1305
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 5: before I try and be almost I would be thirty seven. Yeah,

1306
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think there'll be more of a relaxed

1307
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 5: approach after these games, to be a bit more willing

1308
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 5: to just be okay with whenever I feel pregnant, not

1309
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 5: so much of all. We can't now because if I

1310
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: fall pregnant, I can't compete at the Olympics.

1311
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: And that would just bring me out because it's so close.

1312
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 5: Honestly, They're like, if I did fall pregnant and I

1313
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 5: couldn't compete in this Olympics, like it'd be fine, Like

1314
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 5: it'd just be something.

1315
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing. I want to have more kids.

1316
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 5: I'd deal with it, you know, it'd be more of

1317
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 5: a grieving of not being able to compete at the Olympics. Yeah,

1318
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 5: you know, I'm in a good position to potentially go

1319
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 5: to my third one and then after that be a

1320
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: bit more relaxed.

1321
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 4: About whatever timing was right.

1322
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 5: Whenever it happened is cool because I don't really have

1323
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 5: anything to really you know, compete at unless I'm you know,

1324
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 5: the Sydney stuff. But at this stage I'm going to

1325
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 5: be playing in those seasons because I'm not pregnant, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We've seen female sport come so far over the last

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Speaker 1: five ten years. Do you think it will get to

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Speaker 1: a point where you don't have to do back to

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Speaker 1: back seasons, you can just play the one season per year.

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Speaker 5: I hope so not very soon, though, I think in

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00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 5: years to come, which is unfortunate. But I mean, Kaitlyn Clarks,

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Speaker 5: like you know in America right now, has gone gone

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 5: nuts and it's actually it's wild, and I love that

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Speaker 5: for women's basketball, and I hope that it translates over

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Speaker 5: to Australian women's basketball too, and we have an AUSSI

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Speaker 5: playing with her right now. Christy Wallace playing with Indiana Fever,

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Speaker 5: who is on the national team and is a bloody legend,

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00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 5: absolute legend. I hope that in generations to come that

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00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: it is better, even a little bit closer, because there's

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00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: such a big gap still for women's basketball compared to men's.

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Speaker 2: Basketball, especially in the States.

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Speaker 3: Like I know, Kaitlyn Clark is like this unicorn player,

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00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: Like she is absolutely amazing. I've watched a lot of

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00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: highlights of her, and it's kind of really good to

1346
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: see it take off so much on social media that

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00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: it's giving more recognition, But the gap is so big, Like.

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Speaker 5: The rookie salary in the d NBA is like seventy

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 5: or eighty thousand US dollars, where in the men it's

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 5: like a mill or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's just a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pass your ego, but I will.

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00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: I find it just absolutely crazy trying to perform at

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: such an elite level, NonStop, back to back to back,

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: whilst also being a mom, Like it just blows my

1356
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: mind when I think about the early years of being

1357
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: a new dad and like that was hard enough, and

1358
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: then add on like a layer of any type of

1359
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: responsibility and pressure and I was crumbling. Yeah, I was absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Mums are built different. Yeah, thank you.

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00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: That's really kind of you.

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00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: And honestly, I look back and think, how did I

1363
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 5: do some of the things that I did? And but

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 5: Pearl has put a lot of great perspective in my life,

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: and so it almost helps me mentally relax a little

1366
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: more for games. So I'm not like just thinking about

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00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 5: myself and how I need to perform or whatever.

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00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: It's like, Oh, has Pearl? Do I need to change

1369
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: an happy? Oh? All right, let's go to the game.

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Speaker 4: All right? Do I need to change a woman? There?

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Speaker 4: She fed?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's a whole different mind frame, And I

1373
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 5: think it's really helped me. And I think I'm playing

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00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 5: better basketball now than I was in my mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: Giving all the young players kids now.

1376
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: Can do it.

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00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: No, she's actually a really good kid though, Like she

1378
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: all she knows is this lifestyle like planes, teammates, random

1379
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: teams around her wanting to hold her and cuddle her

1380
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 5: and running on the corner. So she's got aunties in America,

1381
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: aunties in Taiwan. And they actually couldn't say a lot

1382
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: of it that, like they couldn't say Pearl. I guess

1383
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 5: they struggle to say there ours like when they try

1384
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 5: to be English. For some of the ones that struggled

1385
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 5: to speaks in English.

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Speaker 1: My friend was called Lachlan and that's a tough name

1387
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: for people who don't speak.

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00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: So her name in Chinese is Jenju, the shinju everything.

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00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: So I was like, that's fine. So actually got that

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00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: tattooed on my shoulder. I mean I don't have a lot,

1391
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 5: but just a few, but I have tattoos from everywhere.

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, tells the story.

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: When Pearl is all grown up and she is no

1394
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: longer living at home, she is an adult on her

1395
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: own and maybe she's starting her own family. What is

1396
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: the one thing that you would want her to remember

1397
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: about the house or the houses for you that she

1398
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: grew up.

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 5: In that no matter where she went, she still felt

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00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 5: the same love from us. That was probably That's probably

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00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 5: the main thing I wanted, because I have thought about

1402
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 5: this because we have moved a fair bit. She's lived

1403
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 5: in multiple houses already or apartments of spaces, and I

1404
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: just want her to feel loved and comfortable wherever she is. So,

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00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 5: I mean, that's probably my advice that I would give

1406
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 5: to her.

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice.

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: We always love to.

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: End on that question because we get such a beautiful

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00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: answer like that. I mean, yeah, thank you so much

1412
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: for taking the time, and it's a beautiful story how

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00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: you became a mom. It's different and we love to

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: hear those different stories. And yeah, thank you for your time.

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00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh thanks for having me. Guys. I felt like there

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00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 4: was a lot of me talking, But.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the point, Matt. That is a very unique

1418
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: story to me. I've never heard of anything.

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Like that before.

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Speaker 3: And if you've enjoyed this episode, please leave us a

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Speaker 3: review fire stars, share it with anybody else that thinks

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: they could use that unique story in their lives.

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Speaker 1: You know a few people, Ash, they leave a five

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00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: star review but no comment. How dare you no comment?

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00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: They're probably pad parents, That's what sort of people will

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: All I want to say is, if you're going to

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: leave five stars, just leave it. Just something. Give me

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00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: a nugget, any nugget, a word, a singular word. That's

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: all I need.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of nuggets, I'm hungry. Let's get out of here before.

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00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: We get you your nuggets, Ash. I do want to

1433
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,480
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01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,320
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