1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the daily 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: ohs oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday, 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: the ninth of April. 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm Zara, I'm Sam. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Airplane manufacturer Boeing has not been able to escape the 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: headlines recently. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: We're going to shift our focus now to the latest 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: concerns around Boeing Aircraft. Manufacturer Boeing is investigating more problems 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: from Boeing. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: Boeing's crisis is deepening tonight. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, a Boeing plane turned around after an 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: engine cover fell off during takeoff from the US city 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: of Denver. It's just the latest in a string of 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: recent incidents involving Boeing aircraft. In a memo last month, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: the outgoing CEO said, the eyes of the world are 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: on us. Why we're going to explain in today's deep 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: dive the first Sam what's making headlines. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: The Australian government has appointed a special Adviser Air Chief 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: Marshal Mark Binsken, to investigate Israel's response to an air 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: strike that killed seven aid workers in Gaza last week, 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: including an Australian woman. The Israeli government's own investigation into 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: the strikes concluded it quote should not have occurred. Yesterday, 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Penny Wong said Australia's Special Adviser will examine 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: the quote sufficiency and appropriateness of steps taken by the 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: Israeli government in response to the strikes, including what measures 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: it has adopted to prevent it from happening again. Prime 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Abernezi said we have made it very clear 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: to Israel that these deaths are utterly inexcusable and that 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: action is needed to ensure that such a tragedy is 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: never repeated. 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: At least ninety four people have died after a boat 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: sank off the coast of Mozambique. According to local officials, 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: the vessel was not designed to carry passengers, but was 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: carrying more than an hundred and thirty people when it sank. 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Authority said the passengers were trying to escape a cholera 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: outbreak in the nearby city of Nampula. Mozambique recorded around 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: forty thousand cases of cholera in twenty twenty three. 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: The foal of Australian racehorse Winks has been sold for 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: a record breaking ten million dollars. Winks claimed a record 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: winning streak of thirty three races before she was retired 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. Bidding for her eighteen month foald began 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: at two million dollars at an auction in Sydney. Despite 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: international interest, she was sold to Winks's former part owner 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: DeBie Kipitis. 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: And the good news. 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty three to twenty four A League women's 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: season is set to become the most attended season of 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: any women's sport in Australian history. 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Now, this is 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: just one of many incidents that have plagued Boeing recently, 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: and we have to talk about it. 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: And I think it's because it's flying. It's something that 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: everyone kind. 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: Of can tap into getting on a plane today. 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe this isn't the podcast episode to listen to 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: when you're on the plane, but let's assume we're on 74 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: the ground. I don't think that anyone's nailed how to 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: explain this properly. Where can we start with this story? 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: I think probably just by explaining the company boe And 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: I'd agree with you read the explainer part. I think 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: that this is a story that has gone on for 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: so long, I personally haven't been able to get a 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: foothold into it. You know, sometimes you need a part 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: of the story that you can latch onto. But there 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: have been so many kind of disparate incidents that have happened, 83 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: So I thought I want to bring it all together 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: and start at the beginning so Boeing. Boeing was worth 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: around one hundred and twelve billion US dollars at the 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty three, and it has around one 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand employees. 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: Lots of employees. 89 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, big company. 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: Essentially, it makes planes. 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: So Boeing and the europe based Airbus are the world's 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: leading manufacturers of commercial passenger planes. 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: Essentially, if you've ever. 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: Flown either short or you know, long haul flo you've 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: probably flown on a Boeing flight, and you might not 96 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: have known it because we're not talking about an airline 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: that says Boeing. We're talking about the people that are 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: making the planes that will then have Alaska Airlines or 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: other airlines plastered on the front of it. So you 100 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: might not even know you're on a Boeing plane, right 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: because you usually. 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: Are, because the airlines just buy the planes off the manufacturers, 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: give them a lick of paint, and use them in 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: their own fleet. So why then is a plane manufacturer 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: in the news. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: So it starts back in January when an Alaska Airlines 107 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: flight was traveling between the US states of Oregon and California. 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: Now this plane was a Boeing seven three seven Max nine. 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: A door on the side of the plane tore off 110 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: mid air, leaving a gaping hole next to some passenger seats. 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: And I think we posted about this at the time. 112 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: It was the vision was everywhere. 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to include it in this, but then realize 114 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: it's one of those things you have to look at 115 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: and not listen to. 116 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: Terrifying. 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: So the plane was carrying one hundred and seventy seven 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: people and some of those people were injured. 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: And when again you think about how many people catch 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: planes all around the world, I am sure that that 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: event would have struck fear into Boeing because they would 122 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: have thought, well, which other doors are loose? 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was almost a bit freakish in its nature, 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: and as a result, there was a pretty swift response 125 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: to the incident. 126 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: Of course, so. 127 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: US aviation regulator, the Federal Aviation Administration will call them 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: the f double A. They forced Boeing to ground any 129 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: seven three seven Max nine aircraft for three weeks, so 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: that same type of plane had to be grounded for 131 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: three weeks after the incident. It also told Boeing to 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: stop expanding production of the Max nine planes, and that's 133 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: a pretty dramatic response. Another government body, the National Transportation 134 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: Safety Board, has found at least four critical bolts may 135 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: have been missing on that plane, and now Boeing's required 136 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: to outline its plans to the f double A to 137 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: improve its safety by June of this year. 138 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: Well, I hope the first recommendation is to make sure 139 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: all the bolts are there on the doors. 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: But hey, we'll let the experts advise on that one. 141 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: Let's circle back to that report when it comes out 142 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: in the middle of the year. Is there anything happening 143 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: in the meantime though. 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Look, I think Boeing would have hoped not, but there 145 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: is quite a bit happening. So two weeks ago, the 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: CEO of Boeing, Dave Calhoun, announced he would step down 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: at the end of this year end of twenty twenty four. 148 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: He cited the Alaska Airlines accident as a watershed moment 149 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: for the company, saying Boeing needed to fully commit itself 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: to safety and quality. Then, alongside him, the chair of 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: the company's board, Larry Kelner, also announced he won't seek reelection, 152 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: so he won't continue on as chair. And then, in 153 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: terms of what's been happening in relation to that incident 154 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: we spoke about on the Alaska Airlines flight. So last 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: week we found out that Boeing has been ordered to 156 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: pay more than one hundred and sixty million US dollars 157 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: to Alaska Airlines as compensation for the disruptions caused by 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: the burst panel. Now, the payout covered both losnew from 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: the accident and the grounded fleet, because remember Alaska Airlines 160 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: couldn't fly any of the planes that were the same 161 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: make as that one that that accident happened on. So 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: that's what the payout is covering. And then seven passengers 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: who are on board the flight are also suing Boeing 164 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: and the airline for compensation for physical injuries. So there 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: might be something separate that comes out of that. 166 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: And the other rumor that's flying around, get it, the 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: other roomor that's flying around, is that Alaska Airlines could 168 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: also be suing Boeing for the reputational damage and the 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: loss of business that they saw after that event. I mean, 170 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, consumer confidence is largely based on an airlines 171 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: track record. 172 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: I went through a stage of my life where every 174 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: time I got on a flight, I would look up 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: the safety rating right of the airline until I had 176 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: a domestic flight in a country overseas, and I wish 177 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: I coudn't have looked, And now I don't look anymore. 178 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: And I thought I was going to die the whole time. 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: And you can see on the stock market, with whether 180 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: it be Quantus safety issues or Malaysia Airlines safety issues, 181 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: over the years, there's a clear correlation between the financial 182 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: performance of a company and their safety, as there probably 183 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: should be. But Boeing's was don't stop there, do they no? 184 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: So since the Alaska Airlines flight, there have been other 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: incidents involving Boeing airplanes. So last month, a Boeing seven 186 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: eight to seven flight from Sydney to Auckland experienced a 187 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: sudden mid air drop that injured around fifty people while 188 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: the flight landed safely. And that's important to acknowledge. Passengers 189 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: on the Latam Airlines flight said that they felt a 190 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: strong shake, which the airline later said had been caused 191 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: by a technical fault. Whether or not that's what happened, 192 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: we don't know. An international investigation remains ongoing into that matter. 193 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: But if that wasn't enough, then over the weekend, as 194 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: I foreshadowed at the beginning a flight in the US 195 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: city of Denver was forced to turn around due to 196 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: an engine cover issue. 197 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 4: What is an engine cover issue, you might. 198 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: Ask, just well, on top of the engine. 199 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeap, that protective cover of the engine actually fell off during. 200 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: Take So perhaps some more missing bolts. 201 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: Perhaps we don't know. 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: Again, an investigation is ongoing into what happened there, But 203 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: we do know that the cover hit the wing flap 204 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: of the plane before it landed right, so it would 205 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: have been kind of scary to do onboard and see that. 206 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: So this paints a not so pretty picture for Boeing 207 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 3: and it seems like there's now a number of investigations 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: the company's having to deal with into what's gone wrong. 209 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: Do we have any sense of what the problem is here? 210 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: Is this a matter of just lightning strikes twice kind 211 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: of thing, or leisure airlines? Yeah? Or is there a 212 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: more endemic problem with Boeing Aircraft's. 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think I'm in a position to answer this. 214 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: I think the only clues we might get, and they 215 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: are allegations. I'm going to say that at the outset 216 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: have come from a former Boeing employee who was a 217 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: whistleblower so whistleblower is someone that shares publicly information that 218 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: is meant to be kept private. So in recent years, 219 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: this former Boeing employee gave evidence against the company as 220 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: part of court proceedings. His name was John Barnett. He 221 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: worked for Boeing for thirty two years, and he alleged 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: that twenty five percent of oxygen masks on the planes 223 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't work in an emergency. He claimed he repeatedly raised 224 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: concerns about safety and about cost cutting on the production line, 225 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: but he then alleged that he was ignored and that 226 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: those concerns. 227 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 4: Never went anywhere. 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: So Barnet was actually found dead in South Carolina last month, 229 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: So what happens from there we don't really know. But 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: at this point, I think that Boeing has a lot 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: of reputation building to do. I think it's hard as 232 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: a consumer when you can't choose which manufacturer of a 233 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 2: plane you want to go with, because you know, you 234 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: book a Quantuslide or you book a British Airways. 235 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: Flight, you don't know what sort of plane they're operating. 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: So I think that that lack of control as a 237 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: consumer would be really difficult in the face of these 238 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: sorts of stories. 239 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: And the other thing I found really interesting about this 240 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: story is just how little competition areas in the manufacturing space. 241 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: I mean, think of cars, there's quite a variety of 242 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: cars and car manufacturers that you can pick from. With planes, A, yeah, 243 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: you don't know the model unless you're doing your zsydlal 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: research and googling the model of the plane you're about 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: to fly. But also there seems to be these two 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: major competitors and not much else for all of these 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: airlines that we use. 248 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: Sounds like we have a new business idea. 249 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: That's right, And if you're an airline looking to diversify, 250 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: then TDA can supply you with an aircraft. We're looking 251 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: to diversify the business at this point in time, and 252 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: you know why not. Everything's on the table. 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